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Roll Jordan Roll?

By Mahons On September 10th, 2019

What do you make of an official running for election who announces if elected he will annex disputed territory, a unilateral move that will lead to obvious increase in violence and then have the gall to suggest a peace plan will follow. The mind boogles. And then, maybe it should be expected.

34 Responses to “Roll Jordan Roll?”

  1. He is probably just looking for a little Lebensraum.

  2. It’s unwise, but Palestinians will never be placated anyway.

  3. A fair point, but no need to have their failure to be placated justified.

  4. please flesh this story out for those of us that missed it. A link to exactly what you’re talking about would be nice. thank you

  5. //but Palestinians will never be placated anyway//

    How about letting them have their country and then we’ll see?

    The Irish were also a crowd of trouble-makers as long as Britain occupied our country.

  6. Bibi says he wants to annex Jordan Valley ” in coordination with the US ”

    This is a highly dangerous thing to say, a very unfriendly thing to do.

    Such talk will endanger the US and its interests. It may ultimately erode support for Israel in the US.

  7. Patrick – Netanyahu announced if he wins the election next week that he will annex the Jordan Valley and WeSt Bank locations. I’m sorry you missed the dtory. In other news, the Japanese attacked Pearl Harbor, the Beatles broke up and the Berlin Wall came down.

  8. the Beatles broke up….. ?

  9. God Bless you Bibi….

  10. The Irish were also a crowd of trouble-makers as long as Britain occupied our country

    The fourth green field Noel?

  11. “If I receive from you, citizens of Israel, a clear mandate to do so… today I announce my intention to apply with the formation of the next government Israeli sovereignty over the Jordan Valley and northern Dead Sea.”

    Mr Netanyahu also said he would annex all Jewish settlements in the West Bank, but this would need to wait until the publication of US President Donald Trump’s long-awaited plan for a peace agreement between Israelis and Palestinians.

    The PM said Mr Trump’s so-called Deal of the Century was likely to be published within days of the elections and warned that his Blue and White opponents would not be able to handle its policies.

    Later, Mr Netanyahu was whisked off stage as an election rally in the southern Israeli city of Ashdod was interrupted by sirens signalling possible rocket fire from Gaza.

  12. I don’t see a problem.

  13. That is not surprising. However, international law does.

  14. 🙂

  15. I thought you would be annoyed at the proposal Patrick. Surely you were hoping Bibi would also annex Gaza, the Sinai desert and half of Lebanon too ? 😉

  16. Gaza was given to the Pallies to show how they would manage their own country…. that failure will remain until the pallies fix it themselves…. the Sinai is next.

  17. ya’ll just skipped over the last part of that highlighted piece….

    Mr Netanyahu was whisked off stage as an election rally in the southern Israeli city of Ashdod was interrupted by sirens signalling possible rocket fire from Gaza.

    a couple of times a week they fire unguided bombs into civilian neighborhoods…. ah excuse me

  18. The Gaza Strip belongs to the Palestinians. It wasn’t given to them. And Israeli disengagement of Gaza came on the 15th August 2005. On the 30th January 2006 the Middle Eastern Quartet (the United States, the European Union, Russia, and the United Nations) cut off Palestinian aid. On the 1st February 2006 Israel imposed sanctions (denying tax revenue that belongs to the Palestinians but is collected by the Israelis). In June 2007 the Israelis and Egypt introduced the current blockade, in effect turning Gaza into an open air prison.

    The overwhelming result was the destruction of the Palestinian economy in the Gaza strip. In 2005 there were 12,000 truck-loads of shipments in Gaza per month. By November 2006 it had been reduced to 2,000 (including the halving of food shipments).

    Why was all this done? Why such a change between 15th August 2005 and the 30th January/1st February 2006? Because on the 25th January 2006 the Palestinians engaged in a free and fair election and elected the wrong people.

    So Gaza was not “given” to show if Palestine could manage their own country.

  19. Has there been an election in Gaza since?

  20. There hasn’t.

  21. Seamus that’s revisionist history…..

    Gaza was given to the Pallies along with billions of dollars…. they destroyed the regions industry and immediately started firing missiles at their neighbors.

    I supported the Pallies getting Gaza and the Money…. I caught a lot of shit for that support, but they had no homeland and this was their opportunity.

    They proved they have no interest in joining the civilized world anytime soon, and until they can manage Gaza they should get nothing…….

  22. A free and fair election that elected people who would not hold elections for 13 years and counting.

  23. One man, one vote, one time.

  24. “A free and fair election that elected people who would not hold elections for 13 years and counting.”

    Yes it is hardly inspiring. But the 2006 elections were categorised by international monitors as “extremely professional, in line with international standards, free, transparent and without violence”. What happened afterwards was not. And one can only wonder what would have happened in the intervening 13 years had there not been an immediate ending of aid, theft of tax money by the Israelis, and within less than 18 months a total blockade.

    “Gaza was given to the Pallies along with billions of dollars…. they destroyed the regions industry and immediately started firing missiles at their neighbors.”

    That is simply not true. Aid was ended within six months after the Palestinians had elections and elected people the international community and the Israelis didn’t like.

    Hamas was also on ceasefire at the time. In February 2005 a ceasefire was negotiated between Mahmoud Abbas and Ariel Sharon, one that Hamas respected. In June 2006 Israel shelled a beach in Gaza, murdering 8 Palestinians, including 7 members of one family (4 of whom were children – one 8 months old). In response Hamas began firing rockets at Israel again.

  25. nope….. spin

    The disaster that is Gaza is nobody but the Pallies fault.

    They chose their path, they chose their leadership, no one is to blame except the pallies and until they act like civilized human beings they deserve nothing…..

  26. BREAKING: A large explosion has been heard in Afghanistan’s capital near the U.S. Embassy shortly after midnight on the anniversary of the 9/11 attack on the United States – AP

  27. It isn’t. Hamas were on ceasefire. That is a fact. Not spin. Fact. So a party that was on ceasefire was elected by the Palestinians. And that was the grounds for cutting off all aid, stealing tax money. A few months later the Israelis shelled a beach. That is also a fact. Hamas started to retaliate. That was the grounds for installing a blockade.

  28. “BREAKING: A large explosion has been heard in Afghanistan’s capital near the U.S. Embassy shortly after midnight on the anniversary of the 9/11 attack on the United States – AP”

    Most likely Taliban retaliation for the ending of the talks this week.

  29. Al Queda’s friend the Taliban weren’t the smartest negotiators in the world.

    They’d be very unlikely to honor their word on anything.

  30. When did the Hamas ceasefire begin and end in relation to the 2006 election?

  31. Hamas ceasefire….. definition of an oxymoron

  32. Nothing wrong with extending an olive branch. It’s still a stick that can be used to beat people if they don’t accept.

  33. Or you can pick the Olives off the branch , turn it into oil and grease their palms with it !

    That’s how most real diplomacy works 😉

  34. “When did the Hamas ceasefire begin and end in relation to the 2006 election?”

    It started after the Israeli-Palestinian ceasefire in February 2005, and ended after Israel murdered 8 Palestinians on a beach in June 2006.