And the Greatest Is Love
By Phantom On September 11th, 2019It’s been 18 years.
This song impacted me the first time that I heard it, it still resonates now.
May God bless all who lost so much that day.
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I remember at the time thinking this was the most modern of attacks: hijacking sophisticated airliners and flying them into the modernist icon of the capital of the modern world.
Strange to think that was all 18 years ago.
I couldn’t process it for a couple of hours
I thought that the reports must’ve been wrong
Even when I saw the images of what had happened on TV screens, I didn’t believe it for a time
That evening the phone lines must have been buzzing all around the world. My brother called me from Australia, then later my sister from Ireland. I called several old friends that I hadn’t spoken to in ages. People felt a need somehow to touch base, to move closer together, anything to help get over the shock and come to terms with what had happened.
Back to the “modern” theme. That wasn’t a coincidence. They were using and destroying state-of-the-art western technology and architecture to make a point. They hated all that technical progress and the hope and prosperity, and all the fun, it brought. They thought that by attacking it they could somehow be masters of it.
But of course all they were demonstrating was the moral and political bankruptcy of their own world. The person who loves to break things is usually the one who can build nothing.
The following decades showed clearly what a global loser their culture is.
It made no sense on the tv, I had to go out of my building in Midtown Manhattan to 5th Avenue to watch. I stood on 5th, there was no traffic.
very nice Phantom ….. don’t know why my post didn’t launch it was scheduled
I was running the GCT at Philly Int. when I got a phone call from my wife t hat a plane had hit the tower asking if I had heard anything and as we were speaking the second plane hit and Monica said my god it was a passenger jet… the last thing I remember of that call was my 5yr old asking her mother if there were any babies on that plane….
I spent the next 6hrs parking over 1000 planes in an airport designed for 390 planes. All major flights in the air scheduled for NY or DC were rerouted to Philly.
I spent the next 3 days by myself in the control tower. I’ll never be at peace.
That morning, I flew from JFK to Providence RI. I was in that Northeast air at the same time that the bad guys were flying south to the Trade Center.
I arrived at a client’s office, only to see crowds in the lobby, watching big screen TVs showing something that I did not believe to be true.
We stayed a bit, saying whatever we could think to say.
I was asked if I wanted to book a hotel room, since all transit links to the city had been halted. I said no, that I was going to go home then. I asked if I could be dropped off at I-95, where I could hitchhike and get as close as I could.
A woman co worker said that she couldn’t allow for that, she said that she would drive me as far south as we could get. At Bridgeport CT, we realized that I could take a ferry to Long Island. So I did that.
The ferry was exceptionally crowded.
At Port Jefferson, Long Island, I did hitchike. The second car that passed stopped, he took me all the way to Queens. I took a city bus to the subway, which by then was running once more. I went from Union Turnpike to the crosstown G train, which took me to Brooklyn. I took a city bus from 9th Street to Bay Ridge.
Later than night, I met my good friend. We bought a case of Bud and went down to Shore Road. We talked for hours, drinking beer, watching the police cars and ambulances pass on the Belt Parkway, which was otherwise closed. And we wondered what would happen on the next day, and on all the next days.
I don’t believe you’ve ever told that story…. sad and hopeful at the same time.
I still have the hitchhiking sign that I made. I will show it.
please do…. did you frame it ?
I would make a memory box inside a glass frame with that and my thoughts on the day.
No.
It’s in a pile of newspapers and magazines I keep from those weeks.
Where were you…..?
Obviously, each person at ATW is in exactly the same place as he was on 9/11.
Here is building 7 reported as having collapsed whilst still standing behind the hapless BBC reporter:
Colm says – d’oh, the BBC just mistimed its report, that’s all. There’s no ‘conspiracy’
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f0HPqd8dPeE
Happy 9/11 Goyim 🙂
This is now a bit of a routine.
9-11 comes, people talk of their experience on the day and commemorate the dead, few think it’s a day to make political points, Allan comes along with his conspiracy stuff.
Poor Allan.
Like the great man said, he can’t change his mind, and won’t change the subject.
Don’t feed the troll
ignore him
I’m surprised at how many people didn’t see the 9/11 attacks coming.
I’d had conversations with work colleagues and friends before the attacks, about my surprise that extreme terrorists have never tried hijacking an aircraft and crashing it into somewhere heavily populated, a government building or a nuclear power station.
My sympathies with all those who died and lost loved ones in those tragic attacks.
//about my surprise that extreme terrorists have never tried hijacking an aircraft and crashing it into somewhere heavily populated,//
I’d taken my one and only domestic flight in the US, from Heuston to SF, a few years previously. I’d been more or less up all night playing snooker and hanging out and in the morning we were driving near the airport on the way home, and I thought this would be a good opportunity to check out flights to SF.
I went in to the airport building just to enquire; and the lady at the desk said they have a flight leaving for SF in 15 minutes that I could take! I dashed back to the car, grabbed my bag and said my goodbyes and in literally 15 minutes I was in the air heading west. Incredible.
It was all so casual and easy compared to the hassles in European airports at the time. There was no sign of any security – in one of the gun centres of the US – and I was thinking how easy the business of hijacking a domestic flight in the US would be.
A number times pre 9/11, I’ve flown where the cockpit doors were open for a considerable time mid flight.
It was cool to peek in at all the lit dials, and equipment, wondering how that stuff worked.
18yrs later and still the memories of this day make me cry
Me too.
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Raw amateur footage from that day taken at the bike/pedestrian path near me that I ride on all the time.
The road you see ( the Belt Parkway ) would soon be closed to normal traffic, and made for the exclusive use of emergency vehicles etc for maybe a week.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8MPcanQDugA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SY5AUnmpaWY
I did change my mind. I looked at the official narrative, and it was false. Now, how did the BBC manage to announce the collapse of Building 7 before it collapsed?
https://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/theeditors/2008/07/controversy_conspiracies_iii.html
There were reports that a nearby building ( the 54 story One Liberty Plaza, directly across Church St from the WTC ) had collapsed or that it was in danger of collapsing.
The reports were untrue, the building stands today, fully occupied.
There is always confusion and error in times like that.
https://www.nytimes.com/2001/10/17/nyregion/nation-challenged-1-liberty-plaza-tower-survives-greatly-exaggerated-rumors.html
Screw Allan. His writing is like graffiti. Unintelligent, unsightly and needs to be cleaned. If this was my post I delete his usual nonsense.
The New York Times:
“Airplanes took aim”. They don’t even pretend any more, but this is the rag which has spent decades rehabilitating the 20th-Century’s worst monsters. Give it a few more years and the NYT will be justifying 9/11.
His comments are a mixture of dishonesty, ignorance and disrespect.
But I vote to allow a certain amount of his guff. It allows us to have a discussion on legitimate things ( ie the rumors about One Liberty, which were widespread. I knew people who were afraid to move back into that building )
just ignore him….
Allan@Aberdeen,
Because for some reason the super secret government told a massive news organisation about their completely unnecessary and massively elaborately staged plot to bring down building 7 using undetectable explosives.
Don’t you know? (((Jews))) planned 9/11. And (((Jews))) control the media. And all (((Jews))) are part of a single hive brain and can communicate telepathically. That is how the (((BBC))) knew.
I was at the war museum in Manchester a few weeks ago, and they actually have a very large piece of one of the twin towers on display there.
The way the metal has been twisted as it was made of rubber, really brings home just how destructive this attack was.
Seamus.
All makes perfect sense now. And the (((BBC))) revealed this on purpose just to show how stupid we all are, except for Allan of course.
Although the planning and logistics of the attack was elaborate and complex the idea was ingenious in its simplicity.
(And no, lest that be taken the wrong way it’s certainly not a compliment but an observation of fact).
And as Dave says above, I’m surprised no one saw it coming although I remember reading at the time that there was a feeling that distance insulated the US against such things.
This was outside the imagination of most, but should not have been
I remember years before hearing of a terror plot to hijack planes and fly one into the Eiffel Tower.
Terror directed at civilian buildings of course was a known thing – the WTC itself was attacked by truck bomb in 1993
The great British / American Rick Rescorla did predict an attack on the WTC from the air. I’ve written of this, and him more than once.
http://www.atangledweb.org/?p=45385#comments
Long Live Rick Rescorla
If anyone is not familiar with the great Briton / great American Rick Rescorla, you are requested to read this New Yorker essay without delay.
Great men are always with us, waiting to reveal themselves as needed.
Long live Rick Rescorla.
https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2002/02/11/the-real-heroes-are-dead
…..that the building had not fallen, just minutes before it before it collapsed straight into its own footprint. ABSOLUTELY AMAZING – and this is an attempt at a rebuttal??
Let’s see what has come out of an assessment of building 7…….
https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/1175375/9-11-world-trade-center-twin-towers-September-11-conspiracy-theories
Allan
I’ve demonstrably proven to you repeatedly Allan, that none of the buildings that collapsed after the world trade center attacks, collapsed into their own footprints. They did extensive damage to, and/or destroyed the buildings around them. You’ve never proved me wrong on this, but you keep claiming it as fact. It’s just goes to show, as everybody here already knows that your not interested in the truth. You constantly lie and nothing you claim can be trusted.
https://www.newstatesman.com/culture/cartoons/2019/03/story-moira-smith-only-female-nypd-officer-perish-line-duty-911?fbclid=IwAR3959Usfo4EFtvBLx2bBU2iXZYfx8L8LhS-geItcXLDBOqQZWKSSTvakxw
Moira Smith was a NYPD officer who lived six blocks from me in Brooklyn. She died as she lived, with courage and distinction.
We remember her.
Dave – building 7 collapsed directly vertically downwards, into its own footprint. The wreckage, of course, falls outside the footprint of the building because it’s a demolition and wreckage goes wherever it goes though not too far from the collapsed building. Here is the collapse of building 7 at freefall acceleration, minutes AFTER the BBC stated that it had collapsed…..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CpAp8eCEqNA
Are there many people with a (partial) Irish identity around Bay Ridge, Phantom? Or has all that now been diluted and dispersed?
Moira has a fine Irish name and an Irish-looking face. All credit to her.
There are still plenty of Irish Americans but not as many as before. Quite a number over the years have moved to say Staten Island and New Jersey.
Few Irish from the other side anymore. There used to be a lot of them.
Yesterday evening, I took a stroll around the reflecting pools at the World Trade Center.
The families I think had left, as most of them would have visited in the morning. Many had left flowers and other things.
There ware many visiting firemen in uniform, from South Carolina, Florida, companies from New Jersey, everywhere. And police officers and military. They’re one big, tight fraternity.
The very nearby O’Hara’s pub is a firemen’s hangout. There are badges there from fire companies all over the US, Canada and beyond.
–The tradition of the insignia on display, as Mike Keane, one of the pub’s owners, recalled, started on the first anniversary of the attacks. “A regular named Big John ripped a patch off a guy’s uniform,” he said. “He then stapled it to the wall. By the end of the night there were 250 up there.” There are now more than 6,000.
The positive vibes are palpable at O’Hara’s. “I believe there’s good spirits in here,” Paul Mackin, 51, another owner, said as he tended bar one Friday evening in October. “And the world is full of good people.”–
https://www.nytimes.com/2015/11/01/nyregion/oharas-ground-zero-pub-where-memories-are-a-badge-of-honor.html
That’s a great article from the NY Times. Everyone should read it on days like yesterday and today, especially those whose hearts are full of hate.
“The positive vibes are palpable at O’Hara’s. “I believe there’s good spirits in here,” Paul Mackin, 51, another owner, said as he tended bar one Friday evening in October. “And the world is full of good people.” ”
Hear, hear!
I was cutting and pasting the identical quote as you were writing that!!
But who would be so psychopathic as to commit such a crime as that of 9/11?
https://www.naturalnews.com/048907_male_circumcision_brain_damage_child_abuse.html
This points in a certain direction……
Empathy – perceiving of
Sympathy – feeling for
For white people the two are used interchangeably for the simple reason that white people who empathise with somebody in a bad situation also automatically sympathise.
https://www.counter-currents.com/2014/05/empathy-without-sympathy/
How true
Allan
Cut it out, or I will start cutting your wicked comments out.
“…..that the building had not fallen, just minutes before it before it collapsed straight into its own footprint. ABSOLUTELY AMAZING – and this is an attempt at a rebuttal??”
I can’t believe I going to indulge the crazy bastard but which is more likely?
a) There was an international conspiracy to bring down the World Trade Centre, and some surrounding buildings, that was so large a conspiracy that random news channels a continent away where in the loop but not so large that any scrap of paper or plan has ever been released?
b) Someone was told that WTC 7 was probably going to collapse, due to damage caused by a fucking skyscraper falling on it, and instead of reporting that it was likely going to collapse made an error and announced that it had collapsed.
Which of those two scenarios is the most likely?
//snipping a newborn child’s foreskin can cause permanent brain damage, particularly in the areas of the brain associated with reasoning, perception and emotions.//
Then by the sound of it, Allan, they must have cut off your willy completely.
What total, utter, fabricated bullshit. The debris jettisoned by energised projections from WTCs 1 and 2 did minor damage to Building 7. If there had been such severe structural damage, then the building would have toppled towards the damaged side. As you can see – you did watch the collapse, didn’t you? – the building falls vertically and at free-fall acceleration. This means that……
which, in turn, means that the building was brought down by a controlled demolition. Here’s an expert on controlled demolitions seeing the collapse of building 7 and explaining why it was a controlled demolition:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nKFBJ1j96to
Why do you infect this and other threads with your hogwash?
Now, now – let Seamus answer
Seamus,
“so large a conspiracy that random news channels a continent away where in the loop but not so large that any scrap of paper or plan has ever been released”
Apart from the press release to the TV news of course, which was apparently released too early. Because of course if you’re going to blow up a building in Manhattan then the very first thing to do is make sure to tell the TV news about it in advance. Otherwise maybe nobody would notice, and then how would you get caught!
As well as telling everyone in advance, it’s best to do in broad daylight right after planes fly into landmarks next door and the entire world is paying close attention. Otherwise somebody might not catch it on video, and you might get away with it. (“It” apparently being a plan by the rich people who rule the world to become rich and rule the world.)
It all makes perfect sense.
I see he’s now quoting natural news! 🤦🏻♂️
did you know that in America where almost every male child is circumcised regardless of religion the skin snipped off is saved and used to grow sheets of skin used for skin graphs of burn victims….
I guess anyone who has ever had a skin graft should thank a Jew…..
Frank – it’s either true or it’s not. Clearly, it’s true that circumcision is damaging to the baby’s centres of processing, such a large data-overload that the pain would be at such a young age. Here’s the source report:
https://circumcision.org/circumcision-permanently-alters-the-brain/
Anyway, any country which attempts to stop this harm to babies is threatened with economic damage:
https://twitter.com/HviturAsni/status/1170032960814424065
Iceland puts forward a proposal to make circumcision illegal, and the jews who control the US tell them that Iceland will suffer…..
In short, if you (Iceland) ban circumcision, we’ll use our media to destroy your tourist sector.
By cohencidence, the doctor who reviewed the data on how circumcision affects the brains of babies found that……
There is a very nasty bunch of circumcised people behind this malevolence, and I wonder who it could be???
I thought that I had a lampshade like that, then I found out that it was just a lie
you’re a disgrace
Patrick – you’ve found the elusive apostrophe. Well done 🙂
amazing ain”’t it ?