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THE BROWNING OF IRELAND CONTINUES

By Pete Moore On September 14th, 2019

“A Government Minister was booed and heckled as up to 700 people attended a public meeting in Oughterard, Co Galway … He was booed and heckled when he reminded those assembled that Ireland was obliged under EU and United Nations laws to accept and process anyone who could prove they had fled persecution and injustices in their own country.”

That’s a lie. This has nothing to do with (non-existent) UN “laws”. The Republic of Ireland could have resisted the EU too, but Dublin chose to bend over, all the better to earn some little gold stars from Brussels. It’s the locals who will pay of course, in the pocket and with the serious crime that so-called refugees always bring.

I salute every one of those decent people holding the line for their families, their community and their way of life.

33 Responses to “THE BROWNING OF IRELAND CONTINUES”

  1. Again the opposition from these people is over the building of a direct provision centre in their small town. That racists are trying to claim it is evidence of wider opposition to asylum seekers or immigrants is appalling. They tried, and failed, to do the same thing over a similar issue in Lisdoonvarna. Allan still harps on about it. The problem is building a direct provision centre, often with hundreds of people, in a town the size of Oughterard, which has 1,600 people.

    There is also no need for direct provision centres in general (the government should provide provision in general housing rather than housing all of them in a single centre). Even if there is a need for direct provision centres then they should be built in areas that can sustain them, like major cities and major towns, rather than small towns.

  2. Many of the speakers accused the Government of ignoring rural towns such as theirs which had only one doctor for a population of 1,600, full to capacity schools, an intercom instead of a Garda station and a social housing waiting list with no sign of any new schemes being built

    That’s a perfectly valid argument to make however from the article it seems the protest is at the non consultation rather than the actual placement of refugees:

    He said the town was a beautiful, welcoming one that would be more than happy to take its quota of refugees in the form of a few families properly accommodated and integrated, but not housed in a direct provision centre.

    The Republic of Ireland could have resisted the EU too, but Dublin chose to bend over, all the better to earn some little gold stars from Brussels.

    And yet Ireland is still one of the most pro EU nations in the union. Bad luck with the wet dream Pete.

    As to your ridiculous ‘browning of Ireland’ fantastical exaggeration. There are less than 7,000 refugees housed in Direct Provision centres. The population of the 26 counties is almost 4,900,000

  3. I take it that the yellow vests are a nod to the French protesters

    A quick check shows that the French are still revolting?

  4. My brother lives quite near Oughterard, and he has never once complained, or heard anyone else complain, about refugees. In fact, they are welcomed in the area. Their kids attend the local schools, and the adults do their best to assimilate into the local community.
    Still, if Pete Moore, from his white van in Essex makes things up says different to someone actually living there, I guess he knows better…

  5. Seimi –

    There are moving images in the post called a video. I’m not making that up.

    I live in Wessex, but what is this comment about a white van? What do you mean by that? I’m smelling something derogatory.

  6. There are moving images in the post called a video. I’m not making that up.

    It’s a crowd of people walking down the street.

    As has been pointed out, the protests were about lack of consultation. From the article:

    “Speaker after speaker expressed anger at the lack of consultation, information and clarity which they say has fuelled rumours in recent weeks concerning refurbishment works at the Connemara Gateway Hotel in Oughterard, which has been closed for a number of years.”

    The white van reference is aimed at the persona you usually project on here. If you assume it was meant as derogatory, that is your choice.
    What you’re smelling? Possibly your brain going into overdrive as you try desperately to show how non-white people are bad, whilst also squaring the circle of having non-white people excelling in your favourite teams? Or possibly you smell something derogatory because you will happily call anyone here you disagree with, ‘Commies’ etc, but are so sensitive that you can’t take even the hint of someone saying something bad about yourself? I’m just guessing.

  7. Again the opposition from these people is over the building of a direct provision centre in their small town. That racists are trying to claim it is evidence of wider opposition to asylum seekers or immigrants is appalling.

    Indeed – the Irish have no problem about being overrun by the 3rd-world, but they just want to be consulted about it. See how it’s done in Longford…….

    http://archive.is/i1OdU

    Longford to be mixed race county by 2050
    Liam Cosgrove
    by
    Liam Cosgrove
    8 Nov 2017
    Email:
    liam.cosgrove@longfordleader.ie

    Half of Longford’s population will be of a mixed race by 2050, a public meeting has been told.
    Members of the public were informed of the way gardai and various state agencies were already planning to adapt to that changing demographic last week.

  8. Mixed race Irish people are still Irish people. And anyone who disagrees is welcome to take the matter up with Seán Óg Ó hAilpín.

  9. I have a friend from the Beechmount area of West Belfast who’s gay and who has a Ghanian father and Belfast mother. He’s also a former IRA prisoner who served a lengthy sentence in the H blocks for arms offences.

    I’d love to see some here trying to tell him that he’s not Irish.

  10. Seamus – is anybody who sets foot on the magic soil of Ireland transformed into an Irishman who is as Irish as anybody who has ever walked that soil and breathed that air? The capability of the Irish matches that of other Europeans, because the Irish are Europeans, and Europeans create and maintain civilisations: lesser races do not and cannot.

  11. Again the opposition from these people is over the building of a direct provision centre in their small town. That racists are trying to claim it is evidence of wider opposition to asylum seekers or immigrants is appalling.

    That explanation says that the Irish welcome “refugees” but don’t want to live near them.

    Either the Irish are all Guardian readers or the explanation is wrong.

  12. There are little squiggly things in the article called words. I’m not making that up.

    ‘Businessman Rory Clancy said the town had started to rejuvenate in the past few years and that they needed support from the Government to continue that work.

    He said the town was a beautiful, welcoming one that would be more than happy to take its quota of refugees in the form of a few families properly accommodated and integrated, but not housed in a direct provision centre.

    Ms Connolly agreed that direct provision was wrong because it was inhumane but disagreed with some of the reasons given by people at the meeting.’

    So, according to a businessman from the town, the issue is not that there will be refugees accommodated in the town, but that more will be placed there than the current infrastructure can handle.

    Either residents from the town itself are making things up, or you are. Which is it?

  13. You have to laugh when a British guy complains about foreigners in Ireland.

  14. “Seamus – is anybody who sets foot on the magic soil of Ireland transformed into an Irishman who is as Irish as anybody who has ever walked that soil and breathed that air?”

    Anyone who comes and lives and works in Ireland and embraces Ireland and Irish identity is an Irishman in my view.

    “That explanation says that the Irish welcome “refugees” but don’t want to live near them.”

    No it doesn’t. It says that any town of 1,600 people would be strained by having an extra few hundred people moved in overnight. The ideal would be that there would be no direct provision centres (which have huge problems aside from stressing the services in the local area). Ideally asylum seekers should be housed throughout the country. I would imagine that very few people in Oughterard would object to a few families being housed in Oughterard, with other families being housed in other towns, the new arrivals spread throughout the country so that they don’t place strain on local services.

  15. “You have to laugh when a British guy complains about foreigners in Ireland.”

    It is interesting that almost no Irish people are complaining about the arrival of foreigners into Ireland. On ATW you will find no Irish person complaining about it whatsoever. It is foreign racists who have a problem with it.

  16. Pete Moore has a parochial, Essex Daily Mail reading sensibility. Cultural norms in the wider world, beyond their little bubble, often bemuse these people. It’s this incomprehension that others live and act differently which gives rise to their customary intolerance of difference.

  17. Absolutely spot on Colm.
    A few people who post on ATW seem to think there’s two ways of doing or understanding things. Their way, or the wrong way.

  18. It is foreign racists who have a problem with it.

    Yep, this is an interesting read:

    https://medium.com/@irexitparody/british-far-right-extremism-manipulating-ireland-1e863cea0267

    Interestingly some of the memes in the article have been used by past & present contributors here.

  19. Dave

    I can’t take credit for that slightly adjusted comment. You need to go to the “I rest my case” post to see the original 🙂

  20. It is interesting that almost no Irish people are complaining about the arrival of foreigners into Ireland.

    If the Irish, as white Europeans, really do want to become a minority in their own land, then that is their choice and they are welcome to their doom. Others do not share this apparent self-destructing virtue-signal, and I would hope that none of the Irishmen here disagree with the right of Czechs, Magyars, Poles and Serbs to keep their own lands Czech, Hungarian, Polish and Serbian.

    Anyway, we have progressed from ‘white countries are not having their populations replaced – that’s just a conspiracy theory’ to ‘White countries are having their populations replaced – but it’s a good thing’:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6noQVuIP_74

    Jew Paul Krugman says

    The craziness really comes from cultural, ethnic issues more than anything else because you have a, uh, a lot of the real craziness comes like from rural white Americans who feel that they’re losing their country, they’re losing ownership of their country. And they’re right. We are becoming more diverse, more multicultural. And they are, in the end, they become, they’re not the future. In the end the power they still have will go away. But it’s a very difficult time until then.

    How is it possible that these Jews are able to go on television and say “we are completely replacing you in your own country, we are taking away all of your power, eventually you will have nothing at all, and we are right in the middle of this process, just pushing through and trying to finish it up” and people are not staging a massive violent uprising across the US? And then I see the comments above and I understand.

  21. And then I see the comments above and I understand.

    And what exactly are you doing about it in your own country? What exactly do you do to help keep Scotland free of these supposed invaders? Do you march? Do you organise rallies? Do you arrange pickets of government offices?
    No, you sit at your keyboard, an anonymous nobody, writing horrible little posts on the internet, too afraid to meet someone in person, because you know you wouldn’t have the balls to say out loud what you write in here.
    Thank god you and your ilk are a tiny, tiny minority, and that the vast majority of people treat you with the disdain you deserve.
    You’re a coward, who hides behind your computer screen, spouting hatred.

  22. Seimi – you support the end of your own people in your own land, whereas I don’t. There is every reason to believe that I’m a minority, certainly at the moment. But for me to advocate that my people retain power in our own country can only be ‘hatred’ within the most degraded mind. Everybody else who comes into my land has their own homeland – so why are they invading mine?

  23. You haven’t answered Seimi’s point though Allan. If you think non European immigration is such an existential genocidal threat surely you should be doing more than whinging on a blog about it !

  24. First of all, you didn’t retain power in your own country – as was made clear by the Brexit vote.
    Secondly – where are your nads, man!? How do you agitate against these invaders? Show us all the strength of your conviction, or shut up and admit you’re the coward we all know you are in real life.

  25. Seimi – in which sector are you employed?

    Seimi, on September 14th, 2019 at 8:49 PM Said:

    My brother lives quite near Oughterard, and he has never once complained, or heard anyone else complain, about refugees.

    It appears that the local TD isn’t supportive of the ‘virtue’

    https://www.irishtimes.com/news/social-affairs/silent-protest-held-in-oughterard-amid-direct-provision-centre-concerns-1.4018527

    Local TD Noel Grealish has come in for criticism for telling a public meeting on the matter earlier this week that the type of people to be accommodated in the centre would be “economic migrants from Africa” whom he described as “spongers”.

    “I can guarantee you it is not the persecuted Christians and Syrians that are coming here. It is the economic refugees that is coming in from Africa that are trying to get across the Mediterranean and ended up in Europe and ended in up Ireland and ended up in Oughterard,” he said.

    He received a round of applause after concluding his speech and claiming the creation of a direct provision centre in the town would “destroy the fabric of Oughterard”.

    There have been calls for the Independent Galway West TD, who has not spoken further in public on the issue since, to clarify his comments and apologise.

    However, local councillor Tom Welby on Saturday said Mr Grealish had “nothing to apologise for”.

  26. Why does my ‘sector’ matter?
    Can you please answer my questions? How exactly do you ensure your country’s safety from invasion?

    So a local independent TD made a racist comment. So what? Some people applauded. Again – so what?

  27. Seimi,

    And what exactly are you doing about it in your own country? What exactly do you do to help keep Scotland free of these supposed invaders? Do you march? Do you organise rallies? Do you arrange pickets of government offices?

    Myself, and others have asked Allan this question many times over the years and you never get a decent answer. For a man who is constantly berating people for not taking action, he seems to spend most of his time making repetitive posts on ATW, to people who aren’t interested in what he has to say. No very productive way to stop the ‘Invasion’.

  28. // is anybody who sets foot on the magic soil of Ireland transformed into an Irishman who is as Irish as anybody who has ever walked that soil and breathed that air?//

    Ireland was colonised, with large immigration from England, Scotland, France etc.

    When Irish nationhood emerged, there was no way it could have been based on “race” or the single ethnic identity of the majority – the nation was simply too much a mixed bag and it needed the help of all its people if it was to secure freedom from foreign oppression.

    It worked. Ireland was successful – despite serveral serious glitches – at nation building. “Irish” has always been simply anyone who identifies primarily with the country and its people.

  29. Not true Noel, according to Allan, in order to be truly Irish you must have pasty white skin, preferably topped with a mop of ginger hair, be able to “riverdance” while juggling several shillelaghs , sinking several pints of Guinness, eat nothing but potatoes while singing rebel songs at the feet of the all powerful local priest and be able to chase snakes out of Ireland by throwing leprechauns at them,… 😉

    Is that enough stereotypes ?

  30. !!! Colm, you got ’em all.

    Which reminds me, part of the October Belfast summit is a bet to see who can walk up the Shankill dressed like and doing this.

  31. Noel

    That picture is how you would have all recognised me had I been making my way to your summit 😉🇨🇮

  32. Seimi, on September 15th, 2019 at 11:42 PM Said:

    Why does my ‘sector’ matter?

    Is it the case that your sector of employment is the state or local authority? In that sector, your views on pretty much everything would do your prospects no harm, and probably enhance them. At the moment, I have to work and have employment for I have dependents – near and wider family – and so I cannot put my work at risk from a leftist wrecking-ball. Petr actually tried that, and for me to allow the likes of you to learn from an informal coffee as to where I work, with whom I socialise, where I live etc. would render me as stupid as you. Leftists of the kind who would destroy their own people for virtue-points aren’t mere opponents

  33. Oh look – I’m a leftist wrecking ball! Who knew!? 🙂

    …and for me to allow the likes of you to learn from an informal coffee as to where I work, with whom I socialise, where I live etc. would render me as stupid as you.

    A couple of things:

    1. I have met a number of people from ATW, as well as conversing with a few more via e-mail. I have never revealed anything about any of their private lives. I respect the anonymity others choose to have here. We all have families and dependants.

    2. you could easily have said that at the time. Instead, you came up with the pathetic excuse that you had a tummy-ache or something, and the 2 years or whatever it has been that you have spent avoiding the question have jusrt cemented in mine and everyone else’s mind that you are a complete coward, who will make the nastiest, shittiest comments about people online, but doesn’t have the balls to say the same thing to someone’s face.

    3. Calling someone stupid at the end of your silly excuse just makes you look even more pathetic.