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WHAT IS GOING ON AT THE GUARDIAN?

By Pete Moore On September 16th, 2019

Last night The Guardian posted a now removed editorial which suggested that the wealthier you are the less grief you feel at the death of a loved one.

David Cameron’s son Ivan died at six years of age. Granted, The Guardian doesn’t like him, but it had this to say about him and what they think he went through:

“Mr Cameron has known pain and failure in his life but it has always been limited failure and privileged pain. The miseries of boarding school at seven are entirely real and for some people emotionally crippling but they come with an assurance that only important people can suffer that way. Even his experience of the NHS, which looked after his severely disabled son, has been that of the better functioning and better funded parts of the system. Had he been forced to wrestle with the understaffed and over-managed hospitals of much of England, or had he been trying to get the system to look after a dying parent rather than a dying child, he might have understood a little of the damage that his policies have done.”

“Privileged pain”, i.e, the softening effect of having money. This was an editorial, remember, not the disgusting thoughts of a columnist. It is the corporate view of the newspaper. It would have been reviewed by numerous editors before being approved.

There is something very rotten at The Guardian.

25 Responses to “WHAT IS GOING ON AT THE GUARDIAN?”

  1. Mr Cameron has known pain and failure in his life but it has always been limited failure and privileged pain

    Whoever wrote that knows nothing.

    It’s a few world-weary words whose purpose is to shine a light on a prejudiced cliche.

    All humans know pain.

  2. There is something very rotten at The Guardian

    Indeed, tasteless to say the very least. I have however heard much worse expressed on ATW.

  3. When I hear the word privilege, I reach for my revolver.

    That word is firmly in the land of cliche now, mean to stop dialogue rather than foster it.

  4. The Guardian has rightly apologized and retracted based upon a nearly universal condemnation of the Editorial. I would think the primary editor who signed off on it should be sacked.

  5. I don’t know Phantom. While I agree that as a buzzword it’s largely meaningless I would still consider those like Boris Johnson, Jacob Rees Mogg, Donald Trump and indeed David Cameron etc to come from privileged, elitist backgrounds.

  6. Of course there are many privileges in life. Health, wealth, good looks, peer group connections etc. But they can’t guarantee contentment success or personal happiness. The Guardian editorial tried to make a clumsy point about rich protectionism v austerity but crassly used a personal tragedy to hang its political point on. Personal pain is not cushioned by any privilege.

  7. Pete Moore.

    I was reading about this today, it’s pretty tasteless of the guardian to post this rubbish, however, they are perfectly entitled to do so. And I’m perfectly entitled I think it’s a disgusting thing for them to say.
    It reminds me of when The Guardian posted this shite, written by Charlotte Raven, yet again falsely vilifying the people of Liverpool, and the mother of Jamie Bulger, Denise Fergus.

    https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2001/jun/26/bulger.comment

    However, as was pointed out earlier on this post, far worse has been said on ATW. Our host David Vance and Mike Cunningham attacked and falsely blamed the people of Liverpool for Hillsborough. I do remember Pete, that you actually made a post that defended the people of Liverpool and I was quite touched by it. I do hope you still have the same opinion.

  8. However, as was pointed out earlier on this post, far worse has been said on ATW.

    ATW competition:

    The murder of Jo Cox: a tragedy OR a good place to start?

    Who seddit?

  9. Paul.

    That would be our Allan. And I’ve got to say he said far far worse.

  10. I’m guessing that was our adorable Allan 😉

  11. Who else? A good start, (as long as someone else is doing the continuation).

    Of course he’s said worse Dave. It was Pete’s comments about not liking politicians above which reminded me of it. I think that we call all agree that the Cox comment goes beyond simple dislike.

  12. I think that we call all agree that the Cox comment goes beyond simple dislike.

    I think we can all also probably agree that online is the only place the brave Aberdonian would utter such a scummy thing, hiding behind his computer screen…

  13. What I write on a 15-member blogsite is neither here nor there: The Guardian is a national newspaper. Get some context.

    As for the Cox comment, here is the linked article which I cited……

    https://www.theoccidentalobserver.net/2016/06/18/the-selective-compassion-of-jo-cox/

    Jo Cox wanted to make the world a better place and it was a cause for which she was willing to travel halfway across the globe. Whether consoling rape victims in Darfur or bombed out villagers in Afghanistan, it seemed the jet-setting international aid worker was rarely far from the action.

    Lately it had been the struggle of Syrian war refugees to get to the West that touched her heart, and their plight was a subject she returned to again and again after becoming a Member of Parliament. It seemed there was no victims anywhere she could not empathise with.

    Except, perhaps, with one striking omission.

    And that would be the White child rape victims of Muslim grooming gangs in her own back yard. For her West Yorkshire constituency is near the epicentre of the Muslim child rape epidemic that has been sweeping the Labour heartlands of northern England, largely ignored or covered up by social services workers, police and politicians……

  14. Except, perhaps, with one striking omission

    Yeah, the striking omission that she was elected two years after there had been an investigation, prosecutions and convictions of the rape gang that you speak about.

    A sly, sleekit association attempting to blacken a murdered woman’s character.

    Still, she was nothing more than a race traitor like Henriette Reker and you have to start somewhere eh?

    What I write on a 15-member blogsite is neither here nor there: The Guardian is a national newspaper. Get some context.

    Yeah, the context being that your animus and bile are somehow lessesned because they come from an anonymous individual on a blog.

  15. Allan

    What I write on a 15-member blogsite is neither here nor there: The Guardian is a national newspaper. Get some context.

    I see the point everybody was making, was just beyond your grasp as usual Allan.
    And let’s not forget the comments you made about the two Scandinavian hikers, beheaded in Morocco, and the South African girl who was kidnapped, raped and murdered.
    You’re not fooling anyone Allan, least of all yourself.

  16. You should strive to be a human being Whether your audiences 15 or 15 million

  17. Beautifully put Phantom.

  18. Paul,

    In fairness to Allan, if you are going to quote something like that give the source. The source is here http://www.atangledweb.org/?p=63850

    I challenged it at the time saying it was beyond the pale.

    Allan’s reply:

    “And I agree – but now we have some response.”

    “Note that I started out having great sympathy for this husband and wife and whilst I would wish the recent events to be undone, I see how these people work as being utterly reprehensible”

    “On the death of Jo Cox MP, this is something that nobody could have wished for and that includes me in spite of my dislike for her politics. She certainly did not deserve to be butchered on our streets and the temporary cessation of political activities was a proper response.”

    Make of it what you will but it is a misrepresentation to quote that and not these.

  19. Phantom,

    “When I hear the word privilege, I reach for my revolver.”

    I mentally substitute the word ‘luck’ whenever I hear it, and see if the point still makes sense.

    If someone wants to talk about ‘male privilege’, say, just meaning something like ‘be aware that you’re lucky not to have to put up with all this BS women have to’, or ‘you may not see this as such a big deal because you’re lucky, this doesn’t happen to you’ then fair enough.

    But the word ‘privilege’ comes with the insinuation that it is something to be granted or taken away, like a driving license is a privilege. And I think that’s what a lot of people saying this really mean.

    In this case, “lucky pain”….so, no, fuck off.

  20. Great Frank, now he has a few million apologies/retraction to go and he’ll be back among the decent people.

  21. Make of it what you will but it is a misrepresentation to quote that and not these

    Okay Frank, you make a fair point and I’ll take it on the chin.

    I will make of it what I will and qualify that acceptance by saying that lined up against Allan’s various mockings of sexual violence against females I’ve come to the conclusion that he despises women and don’t buy his ‘only provoking comments, (yeah, like there was no comments on the Jo Cox threads), narrative.

    You are howeve correct. I should have included the source.

  22. It was decent of Frank to link the source and expose Paul’s duplicity. I always link sources so that interlocutors can check the background for themselves. In that interesting thread was……

    Pete Moore, on June 19th, 2016 at 8:32 PM Said:

    This is Jo Cox’s concern for the British –

    https://twitter.com/MarcherLord1/status/744463759964512256

    – standing on Bob Geldof’s gin palace taking the piss out of desperate fishermen. Look, her death is a tragedy for her family, but her politics stank.

    and……..

    Allan@Aberdeen, on June 18th, 2016 at 3:56 PM Said:

    Paul – out of respect for the murdered MP Jo Cox, should people vote for Remain?

    But the bottom line is this: if the politics of Jo Cox prevail in this country, Britons will lose their country and become a despised minority. She was a member of a treasonous class, as is made perfectly clear by her preference for muslims over Britons, and she is not alone. Here are the lies made clear……

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/ea0a8d132dd2ef319ae5f7abb0f8946f1ee3d14826570ad0703f49aa43c6e19c.jpg

  23. Thank God that we’re not speaking German……

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/70931eb75461f1037a86a1718800048938af7ed46c9cf227efe68f7857aa8a95.jpg

  24. Whay did you not paste my answer to the question you asked?

    Duplicity you say?

    In response to your 9.49 above.

    Yeah, the striking omission that she was elected two years after there had been an investigation, prosecutions and convictions of the rape gang that you speak about.

    A sly, sleekit association attempting to blacken a murdered woman’s character.

    Duplicity? You’re the fucking unrivalled King of it.

  25. Joining dots…..

    Irish Examiner, 20 May 2013

    ‘Man of the year’ Shatter to make statement on Wallace row

    Despite calls for his resignation, it is not all bad news for the Justice Minister because he is also due to receive a Man of the Year Award this morning.

    Shatter will be given the honour by Africa World Newspaper during Citizenship Ceremonies in Dublin this morning.

    https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/ireland/man-of-the-year-shatter-to-make-statement-on-wallace-row-594967.html

    Irish Independent, 21 May 2013

    Justice Minister Alan Shatter speaks to the media, and inset below, receiving his ‘Man of the Year’ award from the ‘Africa World’ newspaper editor Ukachukwu Okorie at a citizenship ceremony in Dublin.

    https://archive.fo/KVDdQ

    Reuters, 11 June 2012

    Israel rounds up African migrants for deportation

    Israel said on Monday it had started rounding up African migrants in the first stage of a controversial “emergency plan” to intern and deport thousands deemed a threat to the Jewish character of the state.

    Israel Radio reported that dozens of Africans, mainly from South Sudan, had already been detained in the Red Sea resort of Eilat, including mothers and children.

    “This is only a small group of the infiltrators,” Interior Minister Eli Yishai said. “I’m not acting out of hatred of strangers but love of my people and to rescue the homeland.”

    The goal is to repatriate all the estimated 60,000 African migrants, whose growing numbers are seen by many Israelis as a law and order issue and even a threat to the long-term viability of the Jewish state.

    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-israel-africans/israel-rounds-up-african-migrants-for-deportation-idUSBRE85A0VI20120611

    ALAN SHATTER, COURAGEOUS SUPPORTER OF ISRAEL

    Jerusalem Post, 11 March 2013

    Ireland’s Justice, Equality and Defense Minister Alan Shatter, who has been characterized in Jerusalem as a “courageous supporter” of Israel inside Ireland, is scheduled to begin a five-day visit on Monday.

    Shatter, who is Jewish and comes from Ireland’s right-of-center Fine Gael party, has in the past spoken up on Jerusalem’s behalf in a country considered among the most critical of Israel in Europe

    http://www.jpost.com/Diplomacy-and-Politics/Pro-Israel-Irish-cabinet-minister-set-to-arrive