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Hong Kong ” counter protest “

By Phantom On October 9th, 2019

My good friend H comes from China. His family escaped the horror and poverty of red China via Hong Kong.

This morning, his brother posted this video on social media.

The video surprised me, for a couple of reasons. One is that the brother, like most Chinese Americans, isn’t obsessed by politics. I’ve never heard him make any political comment.

The second, is that the post – which didn’t include comments by him – is clearly a slap at the means and methods of the Hong Kong protesters.

This family wouldn’t support the Chinese government at all. But this doesn’t mean that they support all the tactics of the protesters, either.

It’s complicated.

I think that my Chinese American friend, and many Chinese, would like to see the protests subside. They may feel that the point has been made. I think that I agree with them.

15 Responses to “Hong Kong ” counter protest “”

  1. Good post Phantom….. I don’t know whether to chew your head off or thank you for what is probably the best video I’ll see all day.

  2. Sometimes even those we agree with in principle we disagree with in tactics. Interesting.

  3. I love that woman and Mahons is right in the very beginning of the video she says “I don’t care if you Kill People or set Fires, don’t block the road”

    At 70 years old her tenacity is delightful. She gets my star of the month.

  4. Yes, I love her too.

    She could be any of our mothers, or aunts.

  5. I look at the words you wrote to go with this video however Phantom and I’m appalled.

    Not just at you, but your friend also, especially your friend.

    I think that my Chinese American friend, and many Chinese, would like to see the protests subside. They may feel that the point has been made. I think that I agree with them.

    I understand that YOU DON’T understand the freedom that you have, but this guys family escaped China through Hong Kong….. THEY ESCAPED CHINA…….

    China has finally decided it was time to lay it’s yoke onto Hong Kong. Those of us that follow history and use it as a pretty good prediction of mans behavior have said from before the turnover that this day would come.

    It has taken longer than any expected and it still may not be ready to ignite, but Hong Kong will not be subjected as the chicoms wish….

    If anything the Protestors deserve praise for the Lack of Violence and mayhem. I beg they continue on this line and I beg they continue…. to say “The Point’s been made” is the most ridiculous statement ever made……

    You’re saying one of two things with that statement A) Wow they spoke up the chicoms get and are withdrawing. or B) As I sit in my ivory tower wrapped in the freedoms of America I think it’s gone far enough and should stop now.

    Somehow I think you and friend fall into B.

  6. subjugated….. not subjected

  7. There has been violence by some protesters.

    Policemen have been attacked, government facilities / political offices / stores have been trashed.

    Shutting down major roads can be seen as violence. If you need to get to the hospital, but the ambulance can’t make it through the blocked road, you might wind up just as dead as if a protester had smashed you over the head with a lead pipe. It’s not OK to take over the road.

    Things could have been a lot worse, yes.

    But don’t for a minute think that the protesters have the support of all the people there.

    Like it or not, Hong Kong is a part of China.

    The protesters, who are an authentic Chinese movement, need to be smart.

  8. There has been fringe violence that’s all. for christ sake only one person has been shot, this has the potential to be a blood bath.

    I agree with the old lady, don’t block the damn street, but they’re not planting bombs and except for those fringe acts this has been an almost perfect set of protests.

    And they need to continue just as they are doing.

  9. O/T gun attack in Germany. Two dead:

    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-49988482

  10. The protesters need to be smart because any violence, even low level violence, or even violence by a tiny minority, will be used by the Chinese authorities as a pretext to use excessive force to put down the protests. It will, they will claim anyway, not be a authoritarian dictatorship taking aggressive action against democratic protesters but a sovereign government taking action against terrorists.

  11. Seamus

    Yes.

    And I would not encourage overt foreign support for them, because it too will be used as a pretext for violence by the state.

    Beijing may not hold all the cards here, but they hold 90 percent of them.

  12. Not OK. Not close to being OK.

    This is antifa stuff. You will not win the broad public over with such tactics.

    https://www.hongkongfp.com/2019/09/28/pictures-woman-tore-posters-assaulted-protesters-rally-police-abuse/

  13. //O/T gun attack in Germany. Two dead://

    He was a right-wing nutter who attacked a synagogue and then, when he couldn’t shoot his way in, killed a woman outside before making his way to Turkish kebab shop to kill a Turk there.

    He recorded his attack for live stream on the platform Twitch, apparently providing a running commentary: the Holocaust never happened, feminism leads to less births and this leads to mass immigration, and behind all these problems – “always the Jew”.

    Do these crazies feed on each other or do they all arrive at their madness independently?

  14. Did he speak with a Scots accent?

  15. He recorded his attack for live stream on the platform Twitch, apparently providing a running commentary: the Holocaust never happened, feminism leads to less births and this leads to mass immigration, and behind all these problems – “always the Jew”.

    If the ‘attacker’ were genuine – the text as written is factually correct – then he would have attacked the source at source instead of shooting randomly.

    Today is the period of Yom Kippur…….

    https://www.henrymakow.com/2019/10/Yom-Kippur-Gives-Jews-Permission-to-Deceive.html

    Yom Kippur begins Tuesday evening, Oct. 8, wherein the western world will watch in awe as “pious Jews” allegedly “beg God for forgiveness” while supposedly “striving for righteousness.” No doubt that the Pope of Rome and the heads of the Protestant fundamentalist churches will convey their esteem for the Yom Kippur ceremony as performed by “God’s people.”

    On Yom Kippur the infamous Kol Nidrei prayer is recited, almost always explained away to the public as a blessed ceremony of begging God for forgiveness for oaths that were violated, contracts that were broken and promises that were not kept in the past year. The trouble is, that pious picture is a phony.

    In truth, Kol Nidrei is a ceremony whereby:

    1. All the perjury you will commit in the coming year and

    2. All contracts you will sign and violate in the coming year, and

    3. All the promises you will break in the coming year

    — are absolved, with no heavenly punishment accruing as a result.

    That’s the reality of Yom Kippur’s Kol Nidrei rite, and it’s one reason why Yom Kippur is the best-attended of all of Judaism’s synagogue ceremonies. Talmudists like to have an edge and during Yom Kippur that entails making God a senior partner in the sting.

    The truth about the Kol Nidrei liturgy is usually dismissed by the rabbis and their mouthpiece media as a “loathsome antisemitic canard.”

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