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King Midas In Reverse

By Mahons On October 17th, 2019

I could be convinced that Trump has decided that he can best defend himself not by focusing on his questionable dealings with Ukraine but by simply clusterfucking everything he touches. That way there will be too many appalling deeds to single out any one as particularly damning.

How else to explain his craven capitulation to Turkey regarding the Kurds? It is a moment in history that may be known as the Retreat of the Light Brigade. He has added insult to injury by not only abandoning the Kurdish ally to the nonmercy of Turkey but by stating the Kurds have lots of sand to play with. Instead of destroying Turkey’s economy, he mimics their talking points. He has so emasculated the Republican political establishment that they could be the largest gender neutral group in the USA.
His personal lawyer to whom he did or did not (neither tells a straight story) send to obtain foreign intervention in a US election, has seen his 4th associate arrested by Trump’s own Justice Department. Rudy Giuliani may be the only man crazier than Trump himself.

He meets with the grieving parents in a sensitive diplomatic matter in order to set them up with a suprise media/reality meeting with the woman who is responsible for their son’s death. One can agree or disagree with the invocation of Diplomatic Immunity to the accident, but does anyone think it was anything other than a crass and tone deaf move to stage a faux moment of reconciliation?
He meets with opposition leaders and is incapable of not making childish and unnecessary insults?
Clearly, he has decided the best defense is to stick to the offensive. He is the star of the World’s Biggest Reality TV show. And Reality Bites.

101 Responses to “King Midas In Reverse”

  1. I’m not so much angered by the fact that he had set up an immediate meeting with the driver. You could say that that was done in good faith, since the Dunns had said that they wanted a meeting.

    But pushing for the meeting – four times, in the mother’s words – and having a pack of the press right there to record every weeping moment – betrays a complete lack of humanity.

    Yes, it was all a stunt, none of it was sincere, no one else would have organized such a cruel gotcha event, he was there to exploit the Dunns, not to bring any healing to the parents of this young man.

  2. His letter to Turkey, which I just read, is beyond belief.

  3. Very succinct, and of course very tragic.

    We all complain about the US on the world stage. Indeed, we sometimes complain about it doing something (intervening in the Middle East) and doing the opposite (not intervening in the Middle East).

    But the world always needs, now probably more than before, a US presence that is consistent, sane, and based on sound ethics and honest diplomacy.

    The present situation is beyond deranged and is very bad news for everyone. Now every jerk like Erdogan, Putin and any other provincial tyrant can flash his arse at the US and get away with anything.

    Trump tells Turkey it can do what it wants.
    Turkey starts to attack the US Kurdish allies.
    There’s an uproar, so Trump switches and threatens Turkey.
    Turkey – literally – throws Trump’s threat in the bin.
    Trump says the Kurds aren’t worth defending anyway.
    The US continues to do nothing; the Kurds continue to die.

  4. Spot on Mahons.

    I think Erdogan read the letter too…for about thirty seconds:

    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-50080737

  5. https://www.foxnews.com/world/erdogan-trump-fool-letter-bin-trash

    Erdogan, a very bad guy, has zero respect for Trump.

    The letter, which I just read, is indeed beyond belief.

    That the leader of the US would put such deranged threatening gibberish on WH letterhead.

  6. Great minds think alike

    I hereby offer Erdogan $20 for the original of that letter.

    It could be the preeminent exhibit for a new ” Museum of the Stupidity of Man “, of which there could be many other interesting exhibits.

  7. Is there any legal option for the Rep folks in the Senate and Congress to, at least, rein in this lunatic?
    They don’t have to support impeachment. But any mechanism that at least keeps him from further destroying US policy and credibility must be tried. Any federal representative who recognises the damage being done but who’s too timid to do something to stop it is no patriotic American.

  8. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pjw-X1Sw-lI

  9. Legally, I think that impeachment is the only direct option for control.

    He can be criticized by them, which is now finally starting to happen, but he doesn’t listen to anyone. The most legitimate comment is responded to by personal insults. ( see the General Mattis comment )

    The Congress has great control over money and the budget. Maybe they could cut funds for projects that he likes, but that’s probably tricky since key GOP senators and congressmen would like those same projects.

  10. Great post Mahons

  11. ” Like ” as they say in Facebook

  12. The US had already stripped all it’s personnel out of the North Turkey has been building it’s forces up for 3 months but you guys nor the press monitor troop build ups all though I’d think that would be something important to keep track of… when we had “News Agency’s” it was we don’t do news no more.

    Syria is not our Problem we didn’t break it we don’t own it….. we supported the Kurds for the past 40yrs Syria is not our problem nor at this time a threat. What Trump did to the Kurds was wrong, but he was the fourth President to screw them starting with daddy Bush. As far as the US is concerned they can all kill each other if the euro weenies don’t like it stop bitchin and send troops, if not shut up….

    Erdogan is a Problem

    He’s turned Turkey into an Islamist State he is exchanging military information with Russia which as a member of NATO should make everyone nervous.

    I haven’t read Trumps letter but I will.

  13. Legally, I think that impeachment is the only direct option for control.

    Legally there are no grounds for Impeachment.

  14. Not correct.

  15. what’s Not correct Phantom…….

    and if you believe something is incorrect please specify why….. if you can.

    Usually you can’t.

  16. All here know.

    There are grounds, or at an absolute minimum, there are possible grounds.

    See ” Trump, Giuliani, Ukraine, Biden “. It’s in all the papers.

    No need to be in the tyrant’s bunker.

    Cheers.

  17. nice try at hi-jacking thread pat with seeking to divert to discussing process rather than conduct, already spotted your move before you made it !

  18. “I’m not so much angered by the fact that he had set up an immediate meeting with the driver.”

    But he didn’t tell them until they were in the meeting.

    Trump, or his people were clearly in contact with the parents before the meeting to arrange time, logistics etc. It should have been mentioned to them then “hey we can set up a meeting with the driver if you want”

    The way he did it was an ambush.

  19. So as usual you have nothing but the Dem spin…..

    OT

    ANNAPOLIS, Md. (AP) — Maryland Rep. Elijah E. Cummings, a sharecropper’s son who rose to become the powerful chairman of one of the U.S. House committees leading an impeachment inquiry of President Donald Trump, died Thursday of complications from longstanding health problems. He was 68.

  20. Phantom, on October 17th, 2019 at 2:08 PM Said:
    All here know.

    know what ?

    LMAO…..

  21. Kurt if I wanted to hijack the thread I would just do it…….

  22. The People came here to the US to meet with the driver….. well they had their chance.

    Accidents happen, we tried to be nice……

    Diplomatic Immunity.

  23. Fews

    Correct.

    Not kind, not empathetic.

    Very wrong, unkind, disrespectful, manipulative, self serving.

  24. bullshit

  25. Whistleblower comes forward claims ” President Trump pressured God into taking Rep. Elijah Cummings.”

    Whistleblower is currently being represented by Adam Schiff.

  26. Yes, the family are wrong, everyone in the UK and US is wrong except your idol

    https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2019/10/family-dunn-ambushed-trump-meeting-motorcycle-crash-immunity.html

  27. What Trump did to the Kurds was wrong.

    Then if it was wrong why do you tacitly accept it, going so far as to mock it?

    He was the fourth President to screw them starting with daddy Bush

    I’m afraid it began well before Bush:

    https://theintercept.com/2019/10/07/kurds-syria-turkey-trump-betrayal/

    And no, just because it was done before by others it still doesn’t make it okay.

  28. She has DI, that ends that period…. the optics might be bad, but that’s the Law…..

    Trump didn’t run the kid over…..

    here for you Phantom

    https://www.poynter.org/business-work/2019/is-usa-todays-print-edition-headed-for-the-sunset-as-gatehouse-and-gannett-merge-signs-point-to-yes/

  29. Then if it was wrong why do you tacitly accept it, going so far as to mock it?

    Because everyone else is taking the opposite tract….. and two of my Family just came home from the ME. While another was just deployed…… my family fights. We go where the orders tell us, but we would prefer to fight where it benefits the US nowhere else.

  30. And no, just because it was done before by others it still doesn’t make it okay.

    It’s not our fight….. send the Spanish or the Irish if they want to die for them.

  31. Pat, what kind of gibberish is your 2.38?

    You mock the Kurds trying to find protection from genocide with Russia because you want to be contrary to everyone else and two members of your family were in the ME even though you’ve admitted yourself what was done to the Kurds was wrong?

  32. Send the Spanish or the Irish if they want to die for them.

    Why do you expect Euros to clean up US shit?

  33. Why do you expect Euros to clean up US shit?

    Syria is not our shit…… never was

  34. Syria is not our shit…… never was

    Ballstalk.

    The invasion of Iraq destablised the whole region and at the very very least hastened the neighbouring Syrian chaos:

    https://www.lrb.co.uk/v36/n08/seymour-m-hersh/the-red-line-and-the-rat-line

  35. my 2:38 is simple…..

    I condemn the way Trump abandoned the Kurds, but Syria is not our fight, it never was. I have a half dozen family members on active duty several due to their mos in harms way.

    My family as a matter of course in life serve. My own daughter is enlisted. I served, my child will serve as my father his brothers and every generation of our family has….. we do our duty.

    If our lives are to be put in jeopardy we feel better if it’s for a reason…. there is no reason for the US to be in Syria.

  36. Seeless Hersh…. lol

  37. But Syria is not our fight, it never was

    Yes it is / was:

    Following the US overthrow of the regime, Iraq descended into the chaos of sectarian violence and civil war. Sunni militant groups carried out attacks on the majority Shia population and were met in kind by their Shia opponents. As with Iraq, Syria is rife with sectarian tension between Assad Alawite sects and the predominantly Sunni rebel groups.

    Al-Zarqawi was killed by a US airstrike in 2006. In the aftermath, al-Qaeda in Iraq lost much of the momentum the organisation enjoyed after the initial coalition invasion. It was pushed to the margins of the Iraqi conflict and appeared to have been defeated.

    But then something changed. The outbreak of the Syrian civil war in 2011 allowed the group to transfer its operation to Syria and move freely across international borders. This new theatre of operation and the ability to operate, at least initially, without mass opposition, allowed Islamic State increase in strength and eventually launch an invasion back into Iraq, capturing a large swath of territory in the process.

    This is the long, depressing, complicated story of this strand of jihadism in Syria and Iraq. Between 2011 and 2013, the group that was called al-Qaeda in Iraq and soon became the Islamic State of Iraq and Syria had a resurgence due primarily to the effects of the Syrian civil war. The lack of any initial major opposition in Syria allowed the group to consolidate its power, re-equip and recruit, as well as expand its territory. Political destabilisation fuelled the rise of Islamic State

    https://www.politics.co.uk/comment-analysis/2018/04/16/have-western-bombs-revived-islamic-state-in-syria

    The invasion of Iraq destablised the whole region and is at least the number one contributing factor to the Syrian mess.

    you also seem to have done a 180 turn on your views on US involvement on Syria?

  38. He was sane for a few minutes, but now is back to servile Trump-worship.

    They’re back ” on message ” , Sean Hannity style

  39. bullshit deep and simple……. you can post all the commentary you want blaming the US, Syria is not our fight…. if you and the rest of the euro weenies don’t like it go fight for them no one is stopping you or them…..

    They refuse to pay for their own defense do you actually expect them to spill their blood on behalf of anyone else ?

    Of course not the euro weenies expect the US to defend them and every other backwater S**thole….

  40. First off Phantom unlike you I speak for myself.

    Second the only person I worship is my wife…….

  41. The invasion of Iraq created ISIS and was the biggest single factor in the Syrian civil war. You can say all you want that ‘Syria is not our fight’, that still doesn’t make it true and also demonstrates that you have done a complete 180 of your previous views on Syria.

    If you and the rest of the euro weenies don’t like it go fight for them no one is stopping you or them

    Again, why do you expect Euros to clean up US shit?

  42. The majority of Trumpers have done a 180

    There core beliefs are ” whatever you say Mr. Trump “, Stepin Fetchit style

  43. well if you consider every shithole in the ME to be our fault and our problem you’re going to have at the very least 5 more years of refugees pouring your way….. maybe you should get off your asses and do something about it…..

    as for what we do with the US Military you don’t have any ground to stand on until all your NATO bills are paid…. 23 nations still aren’t paying for their own defence.

    Put up or shut up….. if you won’t defend yourselves you have no right to tell us who we shed blood for.

  44. The invasion of Iraq was to topple a terror supporting state….. Obama’s reckless withdraw created ISIS not the invasion.

  45. You guys have just given ISIS new life.

    You own this.

    Congratulations.

  46. Phantom, on October 17th, 2019 at 3:55 PM Said:
    The majority of Trumpers have done a 180

    There core beliefs are ” whatever you say Mr. Trump “, Stepin Fetchit style

    Where have I changed a single position Phantom ?

    Trump screwed the Kurds…. Shit Happens. I stated it was a wrong move.

    I also have stated we don’t belong in Syria unless it’s to carpet bomb the place. The only reason we have any assets there is because the scumbag McCain insisted on giving guns to ISIS.

  47. ISIS is not our problem they are everyone else in the areas problem….. If they become a threat to us, we’ll tend to them, but as of now they are not our problem and we don’t own shit….

  48. Thank you, Ron Paul.

  49. Look if we interfere in the ME we’re the bad guys, if we live it to itself we’re the bad guys….

    We the United States as of the beginning of the Trump Presidency no longer need a single drop of ME oil…. you all do.

    Well you better start building your military to protect it…..

  50. But Syria is not our fight, it never was

    There’s your change of position.

    The US created the problem in both Syria & Libya but expect us to clean it up for them.

    Obama’s reckless withdraw created ISIS not the invasion.

    Al-Qaeda in Iraq (ISIS) existed long before Dubya’s SOFA agreement.

    Who are NATO defending against who? It’s an outdated antiquity and more than enough has been paid with European lives in American wars.

    You’re 180ing on previous positions because Don Don the Great has petulant mood swings.

  51. The US didn’t cause anything in Syria.

  52. We the United States as of the beginning of the Trump Presidency no longer need a single drop of ME oil…. you all do.

    Why do you insist of pusing fallacy which time & time again has been proven to be untrue? The US imports more ME oil than Europe.

  53. No one in the history of ATW has done such a 180

  54. no we don’t Paul we buy oil as a commodity the only commodity in the world that matters besides wheat.

    The US now produces more Oil and Gas than we need. We can destroy the economies of every nation in the world by just using and buying our internal supply which would destroy the economies of every other nation as the oil market implodes….

    you’re mistaking our desire for stability for need.

  55. Phantom, on October 17th, 2019 at 4:17 PM Said:
    No one in the history of ATW has done such a 180

    point out a single position I’ve changed…..

  56. Who are NATO defending against who? It’s an outdated antiquity and more than enough has been paid with European lives in American wars.

    good we leave NATO tomorrow….. brush up on your Russian

  57. Here’s a good greeting when they come rolling over your borders….

    Yob tvoyu Maht

  58. The biggest interventionist has become Ron Paul

  59. nonsense….. I support the team we just plopped down in Saudi….. the Saudi’s die fighting Iranians… we protect their oil fields and they pay the expense financially and in blood.

  60. Yes, Donald, anything you say boss

  61. sad….. when you have no ground to stand on your sarcasm doesn’t cut it.

  62. No we don’t Paul we buy oil as a commodity the only commodity in the world that matters besides wheat

    You don’t. That’s a completey invented fallacy which has no evidential basis.

    Good we leave NATO tomorrow….. brush up on your Russian

    Yes, they’ve absolutely invaded and subdued the mighty Ukraine. Wise up, NATO is an outdated antiquity. Anyway, five minutes ago weren’t you jeering at how Russia’s military might had been depleted as they only had one aircraft carrier?

    You’ve done a 180 on previous views on account of Don Don’s petulance.

  63. The Kurds have not been treated with complete fairness for some time, but Trump’s abandonment and denouncing of them is uniquely evil and in no way part for the course.
    There are clearly sufficient grounds for an impeachment inquiry.
    ISIS is also our concern and the situation has obviously gotten worse.

  64. MATO is still a viable and important organization but it is reeling due to the spectacular incompetence of the President.

  65. Trump ran with ” defeating Isis ” as a plank

    Now he’s fine with them being restored, and so are the remaining bunker Trumpers.

  66. Pat here’s the beat-down on your confusion for the last few weeks on process and what is legal and what is not as regards the impeachment process:

    From the palmer report, which is my latest goto, ( great site )

    Donald Trump and his remaining House Republican allies have given up all pretense of pretending that Trump is innocent in his whistleblower scandal, and they’ve instead seized on the notion that Trump isn’t being treated fairly by the House impeachment inquiry. Specifically they’re claiming that hijinks are involved because all of the impeachment witnesses thus far have testified behind closed doors, and Trump doesn’t know what’s being said.

    That’s a completely bogus legal argument, as grand jury targets have no legal right to access evidence and testimony while the indictment process is playing out, and only gain access to that evidence after criminal charges have formally been brought. Still, the average American sitting at home may not understand this, so House Intelligence Committee Chairman Adam Schiff is spelling it out tonight.

    Yesterday, Palmer Report explained that for now, the impeachment witnesses have to testify in secret. That way the cooperating witnesses are able to corroborate each other’s testimony without knowing what the others have said. Also, when the co-conspirators are hauled in to testify, they have to worry about simply lying, for fear that the cooperating witnesses may have already provided proof of the truth. In his letter to Congress tonight, Adam Schiff is essentially making the same argument. It’s not that we’re mind readers, it’s just that this is standard procedure for a grand jury, which is what the House impeachment inquiry is.

    Now we know when we’re going to get to see the transcripts of all this House impeachment witness testimony

    The crucial part of Schiff’s letter is his confirmation that the transcripts of the House impeachment testimony will be made public as soon as the evidence-gathering process allows, and at that point going forward, witnesses will testify in public. Translation: we’re going to see those transcripts soon. By all accounts, they’re incredibly bad for Donald Trump and several of his people.

    https://www.palmerreport.com/analysis/when-see-transcripts-house-impeachment-testimony/22003/

  67. There are clearly sufficient grounds for an impeachment inquiry.

    bullshit

    MATO is still a viable and important organization but it is reeling due to the spectacular incompetence of the President.

    NATO for the first time since it’s formation is being paid for by the Euro weenies it protects thanks to Trump getting 100 Million of what they us for running it.

  68. Kurt….. the palmer report…. lmao…. keep drinking the koolaid kid

  69. Palmer Report is a liberal American political blog.[1] It is written by Bill Palmer, who describes himself on his website as a political journalist who covered the 2016 election cycle from start to finish, along with more than fifty additional writers.[2] Palmer previously ran a site called Daily News Bin, described by Snopes.com editor Brooke Binkowski as “basically a pro-Hillary Clinton ‘news site.’ It was out there to counter misinformation.”[3] The site has been criticized for building a large following based on “wildly speculative theories about Donald Trump.”[4]

  70. The site has been right on re: Rudy Guiliani, gets a shout from me until otherwise.
    can you not take the time to read 4 paragraphs in between the comedy youtube postings?

  71. // you don’t have any ground to stand on until all your NATO bills are paid…. 23 nations still aren’t paying for their own defence.//

    //NATO for the first time since it’s formation is being paid for by the Euro weenies it protects//

    So which is it? You can take your time to up your mind.

    In fact, only seven of the 29 NATO members met their spending obligations in 2018.
    Europeans have been increasing spending only very gradually, and this trend started in 2015. Since then the increase in spending has been only 5 pc, way, way short of what Trump was demanding and certainly much less a full payment for NATO protection than you claim the Europeans are providing.

  72. he got 100 million but countries like yours GERMANY still refuse to pay their bill Noel.

    There are 29 members in NATO 23 still haven’t paid their back debt let alone current debt. The 100 million that was owed us brings most past bill to date, but you (europe) don’t pay for your defense with neither equal money or equal blood.

    We don’t owe any of you anything, and you’ve been riding on our good grace…. It’s time to end that.

  73. Kurt…. expand your reading list…. here start here https://www.realclearpolitics.com/

    you’ll get opinions from bothsides

  74. //(Trump) got 100 million//

    100 million from 28 NATO members? That just about pays for a single stealth bomber.

  75. nowhere near the cost of one

  76. The U.S. Air Force bought 21 B-2 stealth bombers from Northrop Grumman in the 1980s and 1990s at a price of more than $2 billion apiece, if you count development costs. One crashed on Guam in 2008, leaving 20 in the active fleet.

  77. Pat I do read that also, its good site

    Giuliani bungling gives Biden a new punchline

    A former Giuliani adviser, Rick Wilson, said the former mayor and federal prosecutor “lost his way” as he became a lobbyist and insider. He had his own deals overseas and got so entangled in them, Wilson said, that he was like Trump’s now-convicted former campaign manager, Paul Manafort, who had so many interests in Russia and Ukraine that “he became like an Eastern European warlord.”
    Giuliani, Wilson said, was transmogrifying into an object of ridicule akin to a “Looney Tunes” character known for schemes that always fail and backfire.

    “Rudy has become the Wile E. Coyote of this scandal,” said Wilson, who advised Giuliani when he was New York mayor in the 1990s and early 2000s, a potential U.S. Senate candidate in 2000 and a presidential candidate in 2008.

    “Rudy’s out there running off of cliffs, smacking into road signs and watching his own schemes just blow up on him to defend Trump,” Wilson said. “And if defending Trump is like catching the Road Runner, Giuliani is going to do that everyday and fail, no matter how absurd the situation is that he finds himself in.”

    well written piece that, love the cartoon metaphors 🙂

    https://www.politico.com/news/2019/10/13/joe-biden-rudy-giuliani-2020-045163

  78. //at a price of more than $2 billion apiece, if you count development costs.//

    So you mean the great victory that you claimed Trump scored in getting NATO members to pay up is equivalent to no more than 5% of the cost of a single stealth bomber?

  79. the letter to Erdogan

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EHBmdVLW4AIk3IT?format=jpg&name=large

  80. That signature is something you’d expect from Charles Manson

  81. lol

  82. DRAIN THE SWAMP!!

    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-50087836

  83. Astonishing

    Open, naked, raw corruption.

    And none of the fakes phonies and frauds will say boo against it.

    Because he’s their crook

  84. Amounts to be paid by NATO members are not owed to us. And NATO members happen to have responded to our defense (please check your history more carefully).
    Other Western Democracies have been part of our alliance for decades and housekeeping issues among members do not render the organization unviable.

  85. Wrong Mahons you check with reality…. The US is NATO it’s structure it’s equipment and if ever needed it’s only real standing army….

    We have babysat europe since WWII they owe…..

  86. as for booking the Trump property I love it…. the Trumps put all they’re assets in stewardship and has actually lost money since Trump and his family are no longer running the business…

    Clinton entered into office a pauper left a multi millionaire, same with Obama. Trump is losing money as President besides donating his salary.

  87. You like corruption when it’s your buddy who’s doing it.

  88. Trump has not put all his assets in stewardship. And what is the basis of your claim he is losing money? Has he given you his tax returns?

  89. I’m sure that his crime family never discusses business affairs with him.

    And that he didn’t steer the event to his own hotel.

  90. The US is the biggest military in NATO, but hardly the only decent army allied with NATO. The organization consists of valuable allies who have been just that over decades. As an organization the first activation of the mutual defense clause was for the benefit of the US. Our interests would be severely impacted should we dismiss the assistance of allied nations.

  91. After 9/11, NATO invoked Article 5 the next day.

    Some of us are not be aware of this.

  92. are not aware

  93. What happened to DRAIN THE SWAMP!!
    Pat?

    Is that another 180?

  94. These guys never meant one thing that they ever said about anything.

    They just fell in love with the dashing image of the reality star.

  95. I really am watching with morbid curiosity to see what becomes with the famed ‘special relationship’ and a trade deal with Britain and a trade deal when such a petulant, unpredictable flip flopper who seemingly has no concept of alliance or loyalty will undoubtedly see the Brits negotiating from a weak position.

  96. Who cares what it evoked Phantom…. I guess if the nation that pays the bills and supply the weapons for your defense gets attacked yeah it might be prudent to show support…..

  97. Britain will get the GREATEST trade deal it’s ever had Paul

  98. Paul McMahon, on October 17th, 2019 at 9:26 PM Said:
    What happened to DRAIN THE SWAMP!!
    Pat?

    Is that another 180?

    Everyday Trump is in office his company is losing money, and all his companies are in the hands of others he’s not making a dime….

    What it does do is work the left into a foam at the mouth frenzy…. it’s beautiful

  99. In the absence of a US-UK trade deal, which is where we are now, and where we will be for a time after the UK does leave, how would trade between the countries work?

    It is an enormous trade relationship. Including an enormous trade in services.

    Would there be short term winners and losers because of Brexit?

    U.S. goods and services trade with United Kingdom totaled an estimated $261.9 billion in 2018. Exports were $140.4 billion; imports were $121.5 billion. The U.S. goods and services trade surplus with United Kingdom was $18.9 billion in 2018.

    United Kingdom is currently our 7th largest goods trading partner with $127.1 billion in total (two way) goods trade during 2018. Goods exports totaled $66.3 billion; goods imports totaled $60.8 billion. The U.S. goods trade surplus with United Kingdom was $5.5 billion in 2018.

    Trade in services with United Kingdom (exports and imports) totaled an estimated $134.8 billion in 2018. Services exports were $74.1 billion; services imports were $60.7 billion. The U.S. services trade surplus with United Kingdom was $13.3 billion in 2018.

    https://ustr.gov/countries-regions/europe-middle-east/europe/united-kingdom

  100. What it does do is work the left into a foam at the mouth frenzy

    Pat, corruption in politics should make everyone foam at the mouth. Your reply sounds suspiciously like an excusing of your President riding the corrupt gravy train he said he’d stop?

  101. He likes corruption, when his guy does it

    He hates it when people he disagrees with are corrupt

    He is very consistent on that