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YOU ARE NOT ENTITLED TO YOUR OWN OPINION

By Pete Moore On October 18th, 2019

We used to be a live and let live country. Then along came the “gay rights campaigners”. Now, daring to act according to your own wishes is likely to see you targeted and ruined.

A US fast-food chain will cease trading at its first UK outlet amid a row over donations to anti-LGBT groups.

Gay rights campaigners called for a boycott of Chick-fil-A, which opened its first branch at The Oracle shopping centre in Reading on 10 October.

A spokeswoman for the centre said “the right thing to do” was to not extend the restaurant’s lease beyond the “six-month pilot period”.

Chick-fil-A said its donations were purely focused on youth and education.

Here we go, yet again. I’m not sure what rights the gayers currently lack. No, intimidating businesses into closing is not a right. It is plain thuggery. The Left, including so-called “gay rights campaigners”, are increasingly thuggish. It’s beyond time that that they were faced down.

45 Responses to “YOU ARE NOT ENTITLED TO YOUR OWN OPINION”

  1. No, intimidating businesses into closing is not a right. It is plain thuggery.

    But deciding where to spend your own money is a right, as opposed to thuggery?

  2. You can’t keep up with the shifting positions of ATW’s alleged libertarians. Now they are against people’right to shop where they want.

  3. Sorry Pete…going off topic. Paul, I was just reading about the Ivor decision and the Judge’s comments re: the tapes. What’s your take? The tape will be useless to anyone now.

  4. Ivor Bell and tapes.

  5. Chick Fil A isn’t popular with NYC politicians, or with local trendies generally.

    They fairly recently have established themselves in NYC, with I think nine locations in Manhattan.

    The lines go out the door. They’re hugely successful.

  6. I think the Boston College project was an ill thought out pretty irresponsible project and I’m completely amazed that anyone agreed to take part in it.

    I haven’t read the Judge’s comments re the tapes in Ivor’s case.

  7. Chick Fil A is known as a good place to work.

    They close on Sunday, something that the employees like.

    Let’s boycott them.

  8. The donations are laudable I think it’s wrong to hound this business.

  9. I don’t get the ” let’s boycott everything “ attitude.

    I don’t like the Iranian or Cuban governments, but that wouldn’t stop me from buying Iranian pistachios or Cuban rum. I’ve eaten in a restaurant where the owner supports Trump and has a photo of him on the wall.

    Some people are just so petty and miserable.

  10. Agreed. It was a deeply flawed project. That’s pretty much what the judge said. The questions were leading…the interviewer asked and answered his own questions. The jury didn’t have the chance to decide; the judge ruled the tapes were too biased. The Ivor tape will be made public.

  11. I don’t know enough about the reasons for the boycott and TBH I don’t particularly care.

    What I do know is mine or anyone elses’ right where and how to spend their money is just that, a right, and certainly isn’t thuggery.

  12. Markets are the ultimate in diversity. They allow everyone to co-operate and get along economically. Boycotts Balkanise and divide society.

  13. Don’t understand your comment Paul. What has this to do with rights and where to spend money. As far as I can see the company was legit trading and now won’t get their lease extended. And it’s not as if they have refused to bake a cake for a gay couple. They give money to the Sally Ally ffs. They are people who will give their time and cook a meal for the homeless on Xmas day

  14. Petem you’re right going to far this pride agenda . They’re not content with equality they want more and it’s wrong .

  15. http://www.atangledweb.org/?p=64531#comments

    The only thing that I boycott are boycotts.

    Be open to the world.

  16. Kurt, my comment was in response to this:

    No, intimidating businesses into closing is not a right. It is plain thuggery.

    The right any individual has where or where not to spend their money isn’t intimidation or thuggery.

    As for the reasons, I’ve no interest in them.

  17. What is a boycott other than a choice ? If you don’t vote for a political party are you boycotting them ? If you don’t give money to a particular charity or business are you boycotting them ? If chick-fil-a attracts customers it will succeed , if it doesn’t it won’t. That’s the free market. ‘Boycott’ is just another word for opinion and choice . People can make their own minds up. Where is the problem ?

  18. Many boycotters seek to compel others to participate.

    An example would be a union that refuses to work on a project involving a company that they are boycotting. An abusive practice that is explicitly illegal in the US.

  19. Many boycotters seek to compel others to participate

    I’d say that many, many more, such as this one, don’t.

  20. That’s a different matter Phantom. I am referring to individual choices emanating from political campaigns. Right wing religious organisations particular in the States have long called on their supporters to boycott companies that embraced liberal and gay rights causes ( not that we ever heard Pete moan about those boycotts) and indeed they have every right to persuade their supporters accordingly . It’s the freedom of political campaigning and everyone choosing wether to support such campaigns are not, left or right.

  21. If individuals want to boycott, good for them.

  22. So long as there’s no attempt at compulsion directed at any party, nothing wrong with it.

    We agree.l

  23. Absolutely it’s a matter for the individual.

    My point on this post was Pete’s ‘intimidation and thuggery’ rubbish.

  24. As Pete asked, what rights do homosexuals not have?

  25. I don’t know and care even less. The point I was commenting on were Pete’s allegations of intimidation and thuggery.

  26. In August 2019 Pete Moore was boycotting Gillete.

  27. There’s one way of getting round the boycott by gays and activists. Chick-fil-A should put up signs saying…….

    We don’t serve gays.

    That would work – gays and their enablers would be making a point by buying from the bigots 🙂

  28. They make a nice chicken sandwich.

  29. paul if you lean on a legit company and get them closed down on something bogus that is intimidation, its a low form of persecution by a group who claim to be persecuted.

    if it were as you claim just a question of choice and paying your money to whom you want to for food, that is fine. like choosing fairtrade puts legit pressure on companies to be more eco. That is ethical food pressure which is powerful and a force for good as it encourages fair trade,

    What happened here was intimidation, the pride group lent on the owners of the Centre and applied enough pressure to get them to withold granting a proper trading license.

    I’d like to argue this out with you , but it doesn’t help if you state this
    “I don’t know and care even less” because you’re potentially just skim-reading something which is pretty nasty.

    This company have been run out of town, I’m sorry but that is thuggish
    even though its not jackboots thuggish, its intimidation, and the proof of that is its worked, the Centre caved in to even the suggestion of getting on the wrong side of the Pride Group , and withdrew their license ..

  30. What happened here was intimidation, the pride group lent on the owners of the Centre and applied enough pressure to get them to withold granting a proper trading license

    Kurt, the only information I have on this is from the article taggen in Pete’s post:

    Gay rights campaigners called for a boycott of Chick-fil-A, which opened its first branch at The Oracle shopping centre in Reading on 10 October

    That’s not intimidation or thuggishness. If you have any further information not contained in the article by all means post it and I may change my mind.

  31. sure paul this bit :

    we have decided on this occasion that the right thing to do is to only allow Chick-Fil-A to trade with us for the initial six-month pilot period, and not to extend the lease any further.

    For me that goes way beyond a boycott, Oracle run Chick-Fil-A out of town as they didn’t want the negative headlines the Gay Rights campaigners were creating , it was a containment strategy, they caved into “psychological ” pressure .
    I think that’s intimidation, but I may not be seeing it right. I’m not sure.
    I certainly think it is pretty horrid on the food outlet, whose only crime seems to be donating money to good causes. I have had a look at those charities and they all seem ok , not some awful bigoted anti-gay orgs.
    Its persecution because it looks like the Gay Group didn’t like any giving to Christian causes. The foodout has been run out because the’re Christian !!
    thuggish ? yeah i think so , repeat not jackboots but its like the Gay Group saying
    ” Hey you jews, Muslims, Christians, we don’t want your sort round here” – away ye go ..

  32. I won’t wear Nike because of some of their business practices. Surely that’s my choice. I’ve hardly any threat to close them down.

  33. I won’t boycott the restaurant myself as I have no complaint about its views, there are a lot more worthy targets of boycotts in my opinion.

  34. I think that’s intimidation

    Then I disagree.

    From what I can see gay rights campaigners called for a boycott and then the Oracle Centre made a business decision. How would anyone even know that a boycott of the outlet had been called by gay rights activists?

  35. I won’t boycott the restaurant myself as I have no complaint about its views, there are a lot more worthy targets of boycotts in my opinion

    Agreed on both points.

  36. But that’s what I’m saying the Oracle Centre closed the food outlet ( discontinued the license ) for purely political reasons. Presumably Oracle had no problems collecting their monthly rent.

    So in this case Chick-Fil-A found themselves discriminated against, as presumably they would have liked to have continued running their business.

    Isn’t it like unfair dismissal, in this case they lost their future business on the grounds they were a Christian business , donating to good causes. But causes which a Gay Group did not like . ( even though they were sally ally, a homeless charity and an athletes charity )

    It might be me, but i think its darned unfair on Chick-Fil-A, they have done nothing wrong
    just trading and being a good ethical business donating to important causes 🙁

  37. But that’s what I’m saying the Oracle Centre closed the food outlet ( discontinued the license ) for purely political reasons

    I don’t know that. I don’t why they made the decision to stop the tenancy. Presumably there weren’t gay rights activists picketing the place so how did the centre or its customers know there was a boycott of the outlet?

    So in this case Chick-Fil-A found themselves discriminated against, as presumably they would have liked to have continued running their business […]

    I think its darned unfair on Chick-Fil-A, they have done nothing wrong
    just trading and being a good ethical business donating to important causes

    If Chick-Fil-A think they’ve been treated unfairly the should look at litigation against the centre.

  38. UK’s first Chick-fil-A is set to close after immense pressure from LGBT rights groups. It’s been open just over a week

    https://www.pinknews.co.uk/2019/10/18/uk-first-chick-fil-close-pressure-lgbt-reading-pride-the-oracle/

    Martin Cooper of Reading Pride has organised a protest tomorrow against the new Chick-fil-A branch. He said that the LGBT+ community needs to take a stand against the corporation

    sustained pressure – is that intimidation ?

  39. It appears that the bullied have now become the biggest bullies of them all…

    nuff said, time to move onto Rudy News, what’s the latest ?

    lol he’s been a busy lil bee

    “Over the past week it’s become clear that imprisoned Ukrainian oligarch Dmitry Firtash has been bankrolling Rudy Giuliani’s scheme to promote fake scandals about Joe Biden. In fact Lev Parnas and Igor Fruman were en route to Vienna, where Firtash is under house arrest, at the time of their arrest – and Giuliani was also planning to travel to Vienna at the time his associates were arrested. Firtash was reportedly funding Parnas’ company, and Rudy was reportedly on its payroll.”

    Mahons would you consider doing a witty Rudy Thread where we can keep all the posts in one place .. He certainly warrants a separate, there is so much stink coming out every day , and its new stuff, not rehashed aul bollox

    A message to you Rudy is not a bad header 😉

    https://youtu.be/cntvEDbagAw

  40. This doesn’t really add up as a simple boycott. If it were just people shopping where they like then why would the centre care as long as they get their rent. Somehow they must have been dragged into it too.

  41. It shocked me Frank and I’m not easily shocked these days. It was a well primed lightning strike, in/out in a week. Job done. Scared the shit outa Oracle business owners, who folded before you could say boo to a goose. Bad bad bad. Salvation Army are one of the poorest charities around, but they help poor people directly with boots on the ground. Food parcels and low cost kitchens where you can buy a low cost meal. They give out blankets and offer limited shelter, but always open on Xmas Day.
    Jesus wept !

  42. Giuliani’s crazy story is unfolding by the minute. My guess is Trump pardons him to avoid him talking.

  43. Rudy Giuliani, a perpetual motormouth who never met a problem he didn’t think he could fix by blabbering about it, has gone and disappeared from public view.

  44. I said that if you had any other material to post it and I may change my mind Kurt.

    I don’t know if the picket in the Pink News story went ahead but if it did, although it’s a human right to peacefully assemble in protest, I concede that this may be percieved as intimadatory, (it personally wouldn’t intimidate me) but don’t think it thuggish.

  45. Fair enough Paul
    It wouldn’t intimidate me as a shopper, but I claim that the business owners were terrified of the -ve PR , and so acted to cease the company from trading ( renewing the license” )

    Its prolly not unlawful, in that the initial trading period was less than 6 months.
    Just like workers rights don’t kick in for 3 months, I might be out of date here, I read the tories either have changed that to 6 months, or certainly tried to / want to