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THINGS ARE BEST LEFT AS THEY ARE

By Pete Moore On December 3rd, 2019

I was talking with a woman today. Exotic looks, unusual name, all that. Asked her where she’s from.

“Burma” she said.

“You say Burma?” I asked. “Not Myanmar?”

“No” she said, “we say Burma.”

Burma its is then, and none of that Myanmar nonsense.

18 Responses to “THINGS ARE BEST LEFT AS THEY ARE”

  1. Peking

    Bombay

    Londonium

    Béal Feirste

    Yes.

  2. http://burma-shave.org/jingles/

    http://www.albionmich.com/history/histor_notebook/images_T/BurmaShavingCreamjar.jpg

  3. Well said, Pete.

    BÁC abú.

    Not sure what ATW’s New Amsterdam citizens think of that?

  4. Peking and Bombay are not original names!

    I never understood why names like Roma and Napoli, very easy for English speakers to say, were ” Anglicized “

  5. Burma?

    Then let’s have Persia instead of Iran and and Ceylon instead of Sri-Lanka. Oh, and Palestinme instead of Israel. Let’s end this dangerous nonsense of states being allowed to choose their own names. We will call them whatever we damn well please and they can suck it up.

  6. Peking and Bombay are not original names!

    Neither is Burma!

    The two words mean the same thing and one is derived from the other. Burmah, as it was spelt in the 19th Century, is a local corruption of the word Myanmar

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/7013943.stm

  7. I don’t know if it’s just the romance one has from one’s youth, but the old names almost always sound the best – compare the beautiful Gold Coast and Upper Volta with the modern Ghana and Burkina Faso, with all the associations of burka and burkini. So I always use the names I remember from my stamp album and the pages of Somerset Maugham, and for me it’s still Burma and Bombay and Danzig etc.
    “Burma” also continued to be used by Aung San Suu Kyi and by the whole movement against the junta. The proud French are also stickers for lexical hygiene and still use “Birmanie” in defiance of the new fad.

    Besides, all this changing is confusing. How many times has Cambodia changed its name, before reverting to good-old Cambodia? The Congo also changed several times, and is now back with its original name.

    One of the few exceptions that I do use is Zimbabwe, because Cecil Rhodes was such an ardent British imperalist, and capitalist and racist. Mind you, he did support Irish home rule and was a close friend of Parnell (“Resign – Marry – Return”), so it’s hard to know what to do.

    Speaking of stamp album nostalgia. Can anyone look at this – John Lennon’s “Lost Album” – without getting sentimental about the simplicity and optimism of those days?

    https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/john-lennons-lost-album-stamps-7662316

  8. Rhodesia was never the real name

    And I think it would be great to resume calling Iran Persia, The ancient and beautiful name

    And it’s Saigon, forever

  9. //Rhodesia was never the real name//

    Well then, it was the name really used

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Postage_stamps_and_postal_history_of_the_Federation_of_Rhodesia_and_Nyasaland#/media/File:Rod%C3%A9sia_e_Niassal%C3%A2ndia_17.jpg

  10. Yes, Persia, Saigon, Tiflis, Tsarigrad, Fiume, Koenigsberg.

  11. Yes, Marathon instead of the vile Snickers!

  12. Slave names like Rhodesia, Ho Chi Minh City, Kingstown that are imposed without context mean nothing.

  13. //Slave names like Rhodesia, Ho Chi Minh City, Kingstown that are imposed without context mean nothing.//

    Yes, like Montana, Indiana, Washington ?

  14. To be fair to Ho Chi Minh City the name Saigon was only introduced by the French. Pre colonial name was Gia Dinh.

  15. One of the few exceptions that I do use is Zimbabwe, because Cecil Rhodes was such an ardent British imperalist, and capitalist and racist.

    Rhodesia is beautiful and romantic, a reminder of better days.

    Zimbabwe was imposed out of spite by genodical socialists.

  16. Went to an event in DC in September and met several young poets from the Kingdom of eSwatini FKA Swaziland.

  17. Cecil Rhodes was such an ardent British imperalist, and capitalist and racist. Mind you, he did support Irish home rule and was a close friend of Parnell (“Resign – Marry – Return”)

    I never knew that Noel, thanks. It’s hard to describe politicians of 150 years ago as racists because that is judging them by our standards today. Who knows what our descendants in 150 years will call us if they judge us by their standards?

  18. Burma its is then, and none of that Myanmar nonsense.

    By the same metric, the North Sea should revert to being the German Ocean. I bet that Pete would love that.

    “The North Sea has had various names through history. One of the earliest recorded names was Septentrionalis Oceanus, or “Northern Ocean,” which was cited by Pliny.[103] The name “North Sea” probably came into English, however, via the Dutch “Noordzee”, who named it thus either in contrast with the Zuiderzee (“South Sea”), located south of Frisia, or because the sea is generally to the north of the Netherlands. Before the adoption of “North Sea,” the names used in English, in American English in particular, were “German Sea” or “German Ocean”, referred to the Latin names “Mare Germanicum” and “Oceanus Germanicus”,[104] and these persisted in use until the First World War.[105]”

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_Sea#Names

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