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Schiff acts above the Law

By Patrick Van Roy On December 5th, 2019

Congressman Schiff as head of the Intelligence Committee can issue Subpoenas, all committee heads can. They issue the Subpoena and it is sent to the Justice dept to be served and enforced. This is done whether the Subpoena is in regard to a Criminal matter or NOT. Congress has no Enforcement Power. That power is held by the Judicial Branch and is passed through the Justice Department.

That is the Law.

The Congress has to follow Due Process….. Subpoenas can be challenged in court, but only if the Court is aware of them. A Subpoena is not a Warrant. For a Subpoena to carry any weight it is backed by a Warrant civil or criminal. Signed by a Judge for enforcement.

Schiff wrote a Subpoena and sent a Staffer to ATT to seize Rudy Giuliani’s Phone Records.

In this clip the subject is raised with Devin Nunes who was caught up in this Illegal seizure.

70 Responses to “Schiff acts above the Law”

  1. Oh for Gods sake

  2. it’s called Due Process

  3. Congress is not above following the Law which they did not do.

    In good news numbers have been updated…….

    Legally owned……

    ATF: 423M guns in America, 1.2 per person, 8.1B rounds of ammunition a year
    https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/washington-secrets/atf-423-million-guns-in-america-1-2-per-person-8-1-billion-rounds-of-ammo-a-year

    and that number doesn’t include the over 200 Million Illegal Guns.

  4. Congress has no Enforcement Power

    A cursory Google search reveals that that is simply unfactual.

  5. //They issue the Subpoena and it is sent to the Justice dept to be served and enforced. This is done whether the Subpoena is in regard to a Criminal matter or NOT. Congress has no Enforcement Power. That power is held by the Judicial Branch and is passed through the Justice Department.//

    Patrick, Nunes in your link doesn’t say at any point that a subpoena has to go through the Justice Department, and he surely would have mentioned such a relevant point if it were true.
    Also, common sense says that it doesn’t have to get such approval, as that would run counter to the separation of powers and in fact to the whole rationale of the measure, as it would mean any effort by the legislative to investigate the executive against its resistance could simply be thwarted by the executive from the outset.

    The document below also makes no such suggestion. Actually, it strongly implies that the subpoena is served directly to the addressee once it is issued. It also says that Congress can enforce the subpoena, although it may use the courts – among other options – to do so.
    It sounds very much like nonsense to claim that Congress has to rely on the executive to enforce an order against a reluctant executive.

    https://www.lawfareblog.com/congressional-subpoena-power-and-executive-privilege-coming-showdown-between-branches

  6. A Subpoena is a Legal Document that has a set of Rules (Laws) that have to be followed.

    They weren’t followed. ATT is Liable and Schiff over stepped his Authority.

  7. Congress’ power to issue subpoenas, while broad, is not unlimited. The high court has said Congress is not a law enforcement agency, and cannot investigate someone purely to expose wrongdoing or damaging information about them for political gain. A subpoena must potentially further some “legitimate legislative purpose,” the court has said.

  8. Investigating the President for high crimes is a legitimate legislative purpose.

  9. Pat,

    Where the use of inherent or criminal contempt is unavailable or unwarranted, Congress may invoke the authority of the judicial branch in an effort to enforce a congressional subpoena. Civil enforcement entails a single house or committee of Congress filing suit in federal district court seeking a declaration that the individual in question is legally obligated to comply with the congressional subpoena

    (P22)

    https://fas.org/sgp/crs/misc/RL34097.pdf

  10. All your examples involve the Court.

    Schiff skipped that stage. Congress issues the Subpoena and Justice carries it out. Schiff skipped Justice and sent his Subpoena to ATT without the opportunity of Judicial review.

    They not only violated 4 peoples civil rights, they violated Atty Client Privilege.

    Congress has Authority, but they are far from all powerful. They still have to follow Due Process enforcing a Subpoena is not their purview.

    ALL subpoenas of Congress have to follow the Law and the Constitution. You can’t be held in contempt of Congress without the weight of Judicial Prosecution. What Schiff did was bypass the courts because the court would have denied the Subpoena on grounds of Atty Client Privilege.

  11. Paul……

    Congress may invoke the authority of the judicial branch in an effort to enforce a congressional subpoena.

    You hang yourself with your own citation…… they skipped the Judicial Branch….

  12. What law says that Congress require the Justice Department to enforce a subpoena?

  13. Paul’s statement says “may” invoke not “must” invoke.

  14. Pat, the above is an option not an imperitive.

  15. Congress has to follow the Laws of Due Process. They can issue all the Subpoenas they want but unless they are signed by a Judge a person or company does not have to obey them and nothing can be done until the court is involved.

    A Subpoena is the same as a Warrant. A Cop can right a Warrant it has no force unless a Judge signs it. The same is true of a Congressional Subpoena.

    ATT should have never complied with the Subpoena without it going to court. Basically what they did was call a friend and say give us Rudy’s Phone records. Which is Illegal.

    ATT has a big problem on their hands.

  16. No it is the Law Paul they do not have the “option” to skip Due Process which is what they did.

  17. They can issue all the Subpoenas they want but unless they are signed by a Judge a person or company does not have to obey them and nothing can be done until the court is involved.

    Pat,

    Generally speaking, Congress’s authority to investigate and obtain information ,
    including but not limited to confidential information, is extremely broad. While there is no express provision of the Constitution or specific statute authorizing the conduct of congressional oversight or investigations, the Supreme Court has firmly established that such power is essential to the legislative function as to be implied from the general vesting of legislative powers in Congress.

    (P.2)

  18. Now we are just going in circles with the far earth people.

  19. Now we are just going in circles with the flat earth people.

  20. He believes everything that the Fox/Levin/Limbaugh/Alex Jones nonsense machine tells him

    There will be a hundred times more of this argumentative nonsense in the coming weeks.

  21. Patrick is a smart guy. If he spent his time investigating the claims of the right wing talking heads that he spends simply spreading their nonsense he would 1. Be more respected and 2. Be more convincing.

  22. The so called liberals here have criticized Dems here many times

    Patrick has never once personally criticized Trump in any way that means anything nor has he ever criticized Fox News, Limbaugh or Levin AFAIK

    For more than ten years it has been ” Blind Faith ” in the GOP spin machine

    We should give Limbaugh posting privileges so we can cut out the middleman

  23. Like the mighty limbaaa would waste his time on us plebes

    Besides people might actually disagree with him so he would need comment editing privileges

  24. Right wing radio / TV in the US is basically 24/7 complaining and whining before a perpetually agitated and uncritical audience.

    These guys hurt conservatism. A great deal.

  25. It would be interesting to trace the genealogy of that claim, that a subpoena has to go thru the Justice Dept before being served.

    It must have started somewhere, and the source must already have a track record of unreliability, such that a person who studied constitutional law would first question it.

    Or else it came out of that bubble-gum machine.

  26. No I believe in the Rule of Law……

    A. Invalid Basis for Proceeding

    First, contempt proceedings may be ruled invalid in the
    following circumstances:47

    (a) if Congress did not have the power to investigate;48

    (b) if the prosecuting committee or subcommittee did not
    have proper jurisdiction or authority to conduct the original
    investigation under which the contempt prosecution arose;49

    (c) if the questions asked were not pertinent to the inquiry;50 or,

    (d) if the prosecuting committee did not follow the applicable
    procedural rules during the investigation, such as rules governing subpoenas, the taking of testimony and executive sessions. 51

    These bases for ruling the contempt proceedings invalid are,
    not surprisingly, the mirror image of the basic requirements
    identified by the court in Bergman for a validly issued Congressional subpoena

    The Subpoena violated (d)

    You can not issue a Subpoena to third Party (ATT) bypassing Due Process, or Atty Client Privilege.

    Now you can dance all you want Congress can NOT Violate the 4th, 5th, and 6th Amendments and read or listen too an Attorney without first getting a Ruling by a Judge that the Atty Client Privilege has been waived or does not apply.

    They skipped that part.

    Think about it you pack of Fools, You are saying Congress who take an Oath to uphold the Constitution can bypass the 4th, 5th, and 6th Amendments.

    They need no freakin Badges…… Screw your civil rights and screw Atty Client Privilege. Adam Schiff wants to Listen to your Phone Calls. According to you fools he doesn’t need to follow the Law. He can tap your phone without getting a Warrant, because that’s what he did.

    So when did Congress get the Authority to ignore the Warrant Phase ?

    None of you know what the hell you’re talking about.

  27. what is that from?

    A Turkish medical journal?

  28. So why did people represented by counsel respond to the subpoenas instead of having them quashed based upon your claims?
    Why didn’t Republican members of Congress ask the Justice Department to go to Court to quash the subpoenas?

  29. Pat, this is from p.2 of

    Congress’s Contempt Power and the
    Enforcement of Congressional Subpoenas:
    Law, History, Practice, and Procedure

    by Todd Garvey, Legislative Attorney

    Generally speaking, Congress’s authority to investigate and obtain information including but not limited to confidential information, is extremely broad. While there is no express provision of the Constitution or specific statute authorizing the conduct of congressional oversight or investigations, the Supreme Court has firmly established that such power is essential to the legislative function as to be implied from the general vesting of legislative powers in Congress

    https://fas.org/sgp/crs/misc/RL34097.pdf

    I suppose he doesn’t know what the hell he’s talking about either?

  30. It’s psted from the link I link to above Phantom. Unfortunately Pat doesn’t include page number enabling it to be read in context.

  31. If guys can’t be bothered to reference who they quote from, no one should be bothered to even read it.

    This is a pseudo discussion with Levinisque hogwash at it’s core.

  32. Argue with the case law on the issue:

    McGrain v. Daugherty (1927)

    The Court ruled that the district court erred in discharging the witness from custody under the attachment. The Court held that the investigation was ordered for a legitimate object, that the witness wrongfully refused to appear and testify before the committee and was lawfully attached, and that the Senate was entitled to have the witness give testimony pertinent to the inquiry, either at its bar or before the committee. In so doing, the Court found that although the Senate was not invested with a “general” power to inquire into private affairs and compel disclosures, it did possess such auxiliary powers as were necessary and proper to make its express powers effective. The power to legislate carried with it by necessary implication ample authority to obtain information needed in the rightful exercise of that power. The investigation of a public officer or department was presumed legislative in purpose and, therefore, valid.

    https://www.lexisnexis.com/community/casebrief/p/casebrief-mcgrain-v-daugherty

  33. Why did these poor victims of Schiff’s dictatorial coup retain such high priced lawyers when they could have hired an ATW writer whow minored in Constitutional Law?

  34. Because the illuminati, Rosicrucians and deep state wanted this to happen all along.

    Thank goodness we got Honest Donald Trump to see through all their lies.

  35. the clip played reminds me of a couple of old washer women arguing over new machines installed

  36. So there is no more Due Process….. No more 4th Amendment, No more Attorney Client, Privilege.

    Any Committee in Congress can violate it without Due Process. Welcome to unlimited Tyranny where Congress is concerned you have no rights…. If they go to your boss and say I want Mahons Records and you can’t tell him….. according to you they have to comply…..

    They don’t need a Warrant the Congress issued a Subpoena your company has to comply…. They have to turn over your records so they can go through them to see if you committed a crime.

    That is what they did….. That is what you endorse.

    Now I have several members of Congress that owe me favors, one of thems on the Justice Committee.

    I wonder if they would like to pump up their election campaign by bringing down a NY Law firm or better yet an International Corporation. Since they have this new power I can have him Subpoena Mahons and Phantoms Phone records to search for crimes.

    If I can convince him that Phantom is making phone calls to IRA terrorists they don’t need a warrant they can just pull them……

  37. Congress has subpoena authority and can obtain phone records without a warrant so long as they meet the criteria for issuing same. The scenarios you describe are not within that criteria.
    Who told you they need a warrant?

  38. the header is misleading, no-one in the Dems is acting above the law
    that would be the height of foolishness .
    What’s being tested is this “Is Trump above the Law”
    that’s the question needs focusing on Pat, not this hyperbole
    so is Trump above the law ? Is he a King ?
    In monarchies the king is the the law, in democracies the law is king
    It can’t be said any simpler ..

  39. Do you go on medical related blogs and tell doctors how to perform brain surgery?

  40. 1927…… gee lets talk about The Teapot Dome scandal

    The Teapot Dome scandal was a bribery scandal involving the administration of United States President Warren G. Harding from 1921 to 1923. Secretary of the Interior Albert Bacon Fall had leased Navy petroleum reserves at Teapot Dome in Wyoming, and two locations in California, to private oil companies at low rates without competitive bidding. The leases were the subject of a seminal investigation by Senator Thomas J. Walsh. Convicted of accepting bribes from the oil companies, Fall became the first presidential cabinet member to go to prison; no one was convicted of paying the bribes.

    Before the Watergate scandal, Teapot Dome was regarded as the “greatest and most sensational scandal in the history of American politics”.[1] It damaged the reputation of the Harding administration, which was already severely diminished by its controversial handling of the Great Railroad Strike of 1922 and Harding’s veto of the Bonus Bill in 1922.[2] Congress subsequently passed legislation, enduring to this day, giving subpoena power to House and Senate for review of tax records of any US citizen without regard to elected or appointed position, nor subject to White House interference.[3]

    go there Paul and you’ll also find more out of date case Law.

  41. Mahons if this is how you practice no one should ever hire you…..

    Congress has to follow the Rules for issuing a Subpoena.

    What Schiff did no one has ever done before skippy….. He bypassed the Rules regarding Subpoenas.

    Look up every case every example anything that you can find…… The Last time Congress acted on their own was in the Teapot Dome Scandal they sent their own people to arrest a member of the Presidents cabinet.

    The cases involved in that Scandal gave congress Subpoena power, but also set the rules they have to follow with those Subpoenas. They can NOT serve them themselves and they can’t incarcerate anyone themselves, both things they did in the Teapot Dome Scandal.

    Schiff violated those rules and Laws.

  42. Schiff has not incarcerated anyone. No one is saying he can. As for enforcement of subpoen that has to be through the Justice Department (US Attorney for DC) or petitioning the court for contempt.
    Service of subpoenas is not the same thing as enforcing them.

  43. Schiff violated those rules and Laws.

    Is anyone serious saying stuff like this?

  44. Mahons they violated the Law. They seized phone records without Due Process not just the numbers but the actual contents of the calls.

    The Committee presented the Subpoena to the two Phone companie a third Party without notification of the subjects.

    They can issue a Subpoena to a person or an entity IF THEY ARE THE SUBJECT. Then the subject either turns them over, doesn’t turn them over. in which case congress then can charge them with contempt, or the subject can take the Subpoena to a Judge and contest it.

    What Schiff did was not include the subject of the Subpoena he went to a third party that was NOT the subject of the Subpoena and said “I have a Subpoena for these records give them to me”. WITHOUT THE SUBJECTS KNOWLEDGE.

    You can go to a third party with a Warrant, you can not go to a third party with a Subpoena.

    The purpose of a Subpoena is to COMPEL A SUBJECT to, appear, testify, turn over records. VOLUNTARILY…. or they held in contempt.

    The purpose of a Warrant is to seize a subject, or records, to search and grab WITHOUT the ability to challenge it ahead of time.

    Schiff used a Subpoena in the power of a Warrant on a third Party. The SUBJECT had no opportunity to comply or not comply….. you can ONLY do that with a Warrant.

  45. Patrick, this may sound like I’m trying to get at you, but I’m not:

    You said, several times and in different threads, that a subpoena first has to go through the Justice Department for servicing. Several people contested that and provided sources as backup.

    I’d honestly like to know where you first got that idea. I don’t believe you thought it up yourself. You see, this mass of fake news on various subjects is in this form something new and IMO something very dangerous for democracy. I’d like to understand how it works. So I’d be grateful if you could say where you first heard that stated.

  46. Noel you can not use a Subpoena on a third party and you can not use a subpoena to force compliance.

    For a Subpoena to be used with force to compel a subject has to first refuse the subpoena it then goes to justice and a warrant is issued.

    The subject in this case was Rudy Giuliani not the phone companies. The subject had no opportunity to comply with the Subpoena.

    This is not rocket science this is basic civil rights.

  47. //This is not rocket science //

    And it’s also not what your post is about. You post is all and only about how a subpoena is issued and serviced. You don’t mentioned any of this stuff about what happens if the subpoena is then defied and it goes back.

    Your first paragraph says:

    “Congressman Schiff as head of the Intelligence Committee can issue Subpoenas, all committee heads can. They issue the Subpoena and it is sent to the Justice dept to be served and enforced. This is done whether the Subpoena is in regard to a Criminal matter or NOT. Congress has no Enforcement Power. That power is held by the Judicial Branch and is passed through the Justice Department.”

    The argument, which was carried over from another thread, was whether the subpoena first has to go to the Justice Dept. Your point was that it has to be cleared by Justice – you said that many times – and because this one wasn’t, it means it’s invalid.

    You then called us fools. Does that mean that you’ve now backed down from the central claim of the post, that the subpoena first had to go to the Justice Department?
    If you do, there are probably more graceful ways of conceding than calling your opponents fools.

    But apart from that, I’m honestly more interested in the wider theme of how certain notions firest emerge and how they spread. So please tell me where you heard that idea about the subpoena needing to go thru the Justice Department. Pliiiiiz.

  48. The Problem with this whole Impeachment is that it has not followed the Precedents, the Rules and Procedures, and the Law.

    Due Process has been thrown out at every level, but the hate for Trump is so great that the Press refuse to do their job and report things honestly.

    You only get a lot of this stuff reported on Fox because the other stations and the print media refuse to investigate it and refuse to print or talk about the misconduct of the left.

    The House will Impeach. Now in all right the Senate should just Dismiss the case outright, but they aren’t going to. Their going to hold a Trial and unlike in the House BOTH SIDES Republican and Democrat will have equality. The Republicans are going to drag this out for months…. it is going to be fun.

    The Democrats case is the President Blackmailed the Ukrainians to give him dirt on Biden.

    They presented their best case, no material evidence was presented just opinion and hearsay. Now none of that is admissible. This is a Legal Trial hearsay and opinion are not allowed. You can submit expert testimony, but it and the expert will be cross examined without the ability of a Schiff to tell them not to answer.

    The Whistle Blower will be called because he has no immunity.

    As for the dirt on the Bidens. The investigation into Burisma was underway in the Ukraine for two years until Obama/Biden stopped by with holding Aid. Both Joe and Hunter Biden will be called and questioned about that corruption investigation, what Hunter did for his salary and Joe is going to have to justify his getting the prosecutor fired.

    Add to that the Disruption of the Democrat Primaries. All members of the Senate running for President must be Present.

    The Horowitz report comes out in 4 days. There is no smoking Gun in the Horowitz report he never convened a grand jury….. there is ammo in his report for pundits on both sides.

    So the Impeachment Trial has to last at least until Durham submits his report because that’s where the crimes are charged and there are already several sealed indictments. Until Durhams report is released this nonsense of Impeachment is going to be dragged out.

    Impeachment will be over by March, the President won’t be removed and not because of bias or partisanship, but for lack of a crime. Then for the next year through the summer and well past the election we will be watching Obama officials being tried.

    The People will decide in the Election whether or not Trump deserves another term, and who controls the House and the Senate.

  49. Incorrect.

  50. This is not rocket science this is basic civil rights.

    Nice to see a GOP say those words “civil rights” 😉

  51. So many errors in such a few sentences

    Do you get an award for that?

  52. Those poor fingers typing out all those untruths .. ouch

  53. Get it straight from state TV. Cut out the middleman

    https://www.foxnews.com/

  54. I can at least 11 headlines there attacking Democrats or mocking impeachment

    This is where these guys get their opinions from

  55. Go there Paul and you’ll also find more out of date case Law.

    ??

    Your minor in Con Law obviously didn’t include the binding legal doctrine of Stare Decisis. It doesn’t matter if the case was in 1827, unless a subsequent decision has superceded the precedent it’s binding on future decisions, (incidentally, your Wiki reference reinforces my point):

    Congress subsequently passed legislation, enduring to this day, giving subpoena power to House and Senate for review of tax records of any US citizen without regard to elected or appointed position, nor subject to White House interference

    My guess here is that you’re accepting Alex Jonesesque claims at face value without researching them and lazily parroting them.

    You’re simply incorrect.

  56. Due Process has been thrown out at every level, but the hate for Trump is so great that the Press refuse to do their job and report things honestly

    Absolute rubbish. The above reminds me of the mentality of the British loyalist in Ireland, ‘everyone’s against us, we didn’t do nuffin and they’re all against us because they hate us’.

    Failing to discredit the process in terms of content it is now attacked in an attempt to discredit it procedurally. In this attempted garble and distraction let’s not forget the reason that this process is happening – Trump witheld aid from Ukraine in an attempt to procure foreign assistence against a domestic political rival.

    You only get a lot of this stuff reported on Fox because the other stations and the print media refuse to investigate it and refuse to print or talk about the misconduct of the left

    But this process isn’t about ‘the misconduct of the left’ it’s about a sitting POTUS breaking the law, regardless of the veracity of the above claim.

  57. //The above reminds me of the mentality of the British loyalist in Ireland, ‘everyone’s against us, we didn’t do nuffin and they’re all against us because they hate us’.//

    Paul, there’s a radio 2-part series doing the rounds: The Forgotten Troubles, I think it’s called. I can find a link for you if you wish.

    In any case, in it they refer to the “Ulsterisation” (or “Ulsterization”) of politics all over the world. How the middle ground is gone and the two factions see the world, and themselves and the other faction with totally different eyes and the zero-sum game is pretty much the only game in town.
    A very interesting idea and makes a lot of sense.

  58. A link would be appreciated Noel. Thanks.

  59. Here, Paul. Worth a listen

    https://www.anothereurope.org/the-forgotten-troubles-a-two-part-documentary-on-northern-ireland/

  60. Thanks Noel. And thanks for the link to the wider site too.

  61. will have a listen too
    don’t know why called the forgotten troubles
    that is one statement that cannot be said about the troubles
    we’ve just had a 7 part 1hr series on BBC with new material
    Anything but forgotten therefore !

  62. on topic, pat I sent you a boner of a thread, photo attached, fingers crossed 🙂

  63. So I’m like some insane Unionist huh…….

    I’ve been nice the last couple of weeks stayed out of the fray sat back and laughed at some of the idiocy some of you write.

    There is nothing to impeach Trump on. The money and Weapons were all delivered without the Ukrainians doing anything for it, but that’s not what this is about.

    This about the fact that the assinine Left has lost……

    Not just the last Presidential election that was just the straw that pushed them beyond the point that medication can’t even help.

    Obama was supposed to heal the Country. That’s why he won. Everyone the mass majority voted for him because he was Black, no other reason. The belief was this will be the final thing to heal the last of the racial animosity that still lingered and was used as a destructive tool. Except that’s not what we got.

    Race relations worsened egged on by the White House, the economy already collapsed when he took office was made worse by the squandering of Trillians on crony capitalism resulting in the second great depression. Millions of people who had Healthcare lost the ability to afford the healthcare they were forced to take and could no longer afford care in the name of helping those that already had programs. Our border was flooded by over 20 million illegals. If you spoke out against him he attacked you with the IRS if you were a reporter your career was destroyed and in many cases were locked up. Obama arrested more reporters than any President since the Civil War. Add to that 8 Whistle Blowers had their homes raided lost their jobs and were locked up. When it came time for him to pass the baton he weaponized the DOJ/NSA/CIA/DNC using Russian Disinformation to bug and try to plant evidence on his successors opponent.

    As a result in a LANDSLIDE Electoral Vote the Nation elected a crazy carney barker because anything would be better than a continuation of the Hell created by Barack Obama.

    Since 19 minutes after his Election the Left has called for impeachment for 2 1/2 years they investigated every aspect of not just Trumps election, but his entire life, and found NOTHING !

    After that fantasy fell apart they moved onto the next thing they thought they could leverage to impeach, and they have impeached Trump…. and in doing so what have they accomplished ? Nothing except the destruction of Joe Biden.

    You that support Impeachment and just Hate Trump and look down on everyone that support him, you have lost. You lost the last Presidential and after gaining control of the House rather than racking up Legislative wins have concentrated on nothing except destruction of the man that beat you and the people you support.

    We have 332 days left of shear insanity.

    The left are going to continue to try to destroy Trump with the Press and the Congress and in about 3 months Obama Administration officials will start to be publically indicted for crimes committed against the foundations of the American system. That is what Obama did. He destroyed any trust the people had in government. He spied on and tried to sabotage someone running for President with false allegations, illegal wiretaps, and falsified evidence.

    No this is going to be a long year, and I think I’m done playing nice.

  64. So I’m like some insane Unionist huh…….

    I didn’t say that. I said that the quote reminded me of the ‘everyone hates us’ British unionist in Ireland mentality.

    The fact of the matter is that Trump attempted to procure a foreign government’s aid against a domestic political rival, that’s illegal, and that the binding legal doctines of Stare Decisis means that McGrain v. Daugherty (1927) set a precedent that a subpoena can be issued by the Senate.

  65. Regarding “Hate Trump” see how Speaker Pelosi handled the punk reporter who asked that question yesterday. It was a performance of someone who has power and knows how to use it effectively and elegantly. Don’t mess with Nancy!

  66. Yeah she threw herself onto the Cross….. “I don’t hate I’m a catholic” yeah except for the fact that the worships Baal and sacrifices unborn children……..

    Please she don’t hate…….

  67. Speaking of Baal

    Long live Florida

    https://nypost.com/2019/12/06/florida-woman-forced-to-change-hail-satan-shirt-on-american-airlines-flight-report/

  68. that’s a violation of free speech……..

  69. !!!

  70. “Yeah she threw herself onto the Cross….. “I don’t hate I’m a catholic” yeah except for the fact that the worships Baal and sacrifices unborn children……..”

    So do you. Your stated position on abortion is identical to Nancy Pelosi’s.

    “that’s a violation of free speech……..”

    It isn’t. American Airlines is not Congress. Congress shall make no law … abridging the freedom of speech.