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Jonathan Turley of George Washington University Law School

By Patrick Van Roy On December 7th, 2019

A Democrat proud and pure, a man who advocated that George W Bush should have been tried for War Crimes. Professor Turley’s views used to be opinions that both sides listened too, but no longer. Since his testimony earlier this week he has been pillared all over the Press. Why ?

Very simple, he was honest. That has become a sin and a social crime in this time of hair pulling idiocy by a third of the country who can not accept the fact that they Lost. If you do not tote their line you must be destroyed.

Below are two clips from his testimony. The first his opening statement which I post in it’s entirety, a long winded but educational 9 minutes. The second is just a short snippet of a couple of his answers.  Take the time and watch them, they are well worth your time.

If you watch only one of these watch this one….

 

 

84 Responses to “Jonathan Turley of George Washington University Law School”

  1. Aren’t these the guys you lambasted as ‘scholars’and ‘super witnesses who were gf going to tell the great unwashed’ what to think?

  2. On Thursday, Nancy Pelosi announced that they would be proceeding with the process of impeaching Donald Trump. This announcement followed a very bizarre hearing held in the House Judiciary Committee chaired by the Jew Jerrold Nadler.

    The hearing reaffirmed just how Jewish this entire impeachment circus has been.

    The hearing featured four witnesses, three of whom are Jews, that fancy themselves as ‘constitutional scholars’. Each of these Jews have previously expressed support for impeaching Trump.

    https://forward.com/fast-forward/435943/impeachment-pamela-karlan-testimony/

    Pamela Karlan, a professor of law at Stanford University, made waves on social media Wednesday with her testimony on the impeachment inquiry before the House Judiciary Committee.

    Karlan, who has referred to herself as a “snarky, bisexual, Jewish” woman, spoke forcefully about how Donald Trump’s quest for a quid pro quo from the Ukrainian government was antithetical to American democracy.

    “I see a pattern in which the President’s views about the propriety of foreign governments intervening in our election process are the antithesis of what our framers committed to,” she said at one point in her testimony.

    Karlan was one of three Jewish constitutional scholars invited to testify Wednesday, alongside Noah Feldman of Harvard University and Michael Gerhardt of the University of North Carolina-Chapel Hill.

  3. And beneath every filthy stone…..

    https://www.winterwatch.net/2019/12/whos-behind-drag-queen-story-hour/

    It’s been well publicized that the Houston Public Library in Texas hosted two registered sex offenders for Drag Queen Story Hour. Soon after, a Texas library in Austin did the same. It was later revealed that Austin Public Library, as a matter of policy, does not conduct background checks on its guest performers for children’s programs, according to a January 2019 resolution passed by the city’s LGBTQ Quality of Life Advisory Commission.

    Enter Israel David Fishman (1938– 2006), the founder of the Task Force on Gay Liberation. His father was an ordained rabbi. At the age of 8, Fishman entered Yeshiva Torah Vodaath in Williamsburg, New York. At age 15, he was hospitalized and treated with electric shock therapy. He struggled with mental illness that he attributed to child abuse and incest throughout his life. Regardless, he was still a highly functioning activist and instrumental in establishing a homosexual agenda within libraries and among the hiring of librarians

    Thereafter, Fishman became the founder of Task Force on Gay Liberation (TFGL) — a name that was later changed to the Gay and Lesbian Task Force Round Table (GLBTRT). His group then instituted the Social Responsibilities Round Table. Ultimately, these movements were formed within the ALA itself.

    The Social Responsibilities Round Table currently oversees a number of task forces, including the Feminist Task Force, the International Responsibilities Task Force, the Martin Luther King, Jr. Holiday Task Force (MLKTF), the Rainbow Project Task Force, the Task Force on the Environment, and the Over the Rainbow Committee.

    In 2007, the Rainbow Project Task Force began within the ALA to promote the introduction of LGBTQ literature for children and young-adults into library collections. The group now maintains an annotated bibliography of LGBTQ titles for youth and teens, as well the yearly “Rainbow List,” featuring the best of LGBTQ young-adult and children’s titles.

    Besides funding and backing LGBT activism and the Race Industry, a large portion of the Zellerbach Family Foundation’s operating budget is devoted to encouraging mass immigration and refugee resettlement into the United States.

    Jews learned from 1933 that there weren’t enough jews to destroy Germany – they got others to do it for them. In this era, having learned from 1933 that there are enough jews to destroy the US, they’re bringing in others to do it for them. Assault at the top, and assault at the bottom

  4. Somebody ban this tramp !
    Pat petem what dya think readers make of the persistent anti-Semitism ? You say you care about that .
    At least petem is posting his support for the Jews every day . But there is a worry come Dec 13th this will cease . Ca
    My think why though ??

  5. How did I know that once I saw the name I knew exactly what the bullshit content of the comment would be?

  6. Paul it’s unacceptable. I feel so strongly about it that I want to put myself forward on a head to head with Allan.
    ATW vote .
    If Allan stays I go . If you vote him out I stay and contribute more . Am willing and able to post threads . Let’s talk about it

  7. I think you’re giving him more credit than he deserves Kurt. He’s a vicarious mooncat fantasist who thrives on indulgence, not to be taken seriously.

    I even feel dirty giving him this attention so will desist.

  8. Allan is a protected species

    That’s just how it is

  9. Sorry Kurt, I wouldn’t want to see you go but you staying shouldn’t be at the expense of anyone else leaving. Yes not even Allan. We know what he is like, he doesn’t hide it and almost everyone here laughs at his demented nonsense. But as long as he wants to comment here he should be allowed to do so. No regular here should be censored, and nobody should be asking for anyone else to be banned. Stay and ignore Allan if needs be. Or just mock him as most of the rest of us do.

  10. thanks guys I’ll think about it
    we have the stinking hypocrisy of petem daily attacking labour over alleged anti-antisemitism whilst the allan guy posts stuff 10 times more vicious , that if any labour member had said and was caught for would be a massive scandal.
    then we have pat who once rallied strongly pro-jews who remains quiet.
    What message are we sending out to the wider readers ..
    Can we have a clean up or some rules ? colm you want no rules correct?
    anything goes ? I think we should have one that says anti-semitic posts are just unacceptable, leave it at that ..

  11. kurt

    Firstly, Please don’t be fooled by the idea that Pete is outraged or even remotely bothered by anti-Semitism in the Labour party. Pete doesn’t give a flying F about the issue. Its nothing more than a pitch he uses as he turns himself into a human version of the Daily Mail with the necessity to be ‘outraged’ by Corbyn 10 times a day. If Boris or Nigel said they wanted to expel every Jew from our shores Pete wouldn’t bat an eyelid or mention it. He is not being hypocritical just playing politics.

    Secondly, as to your suggestion that ant-Semitic postings should be banned, well that opens up a hornets nest, the most obvious one being Why only anti-Semitic ones. Why not Racist, Islamophic, Homophobic, Mysoginistic etc etc expressions, and also how do you clearly define an anti-Semitic comment. Its best not to go down the route of trying to determine which view sare acceptable or not and who will ban them. Its a minefield which causes far more hassle than its worth.

    NO. the best defence is response. I can’t support censorship of opinion in any way bar for legal reasons regarding comments that defame named live individuals.

  12. well said colm , i’m pretty much of the exact view
    i just feel dirty partaking in a site that permits extreme anti-jewish propaganda
    there’s sites for that like daily stormer. Its as disgusting as paedophilia .

  13. But kurt, think of it in a different way. When promoting hatred of certain groups subtlety is far more dangerous than the naked blatancy of the Allans of this world. The commenter who poses as reasonable and logical but who slowly drips poison into impressionable minds is far more influential than the ludicrous OTT paranoia that Allan pumps out. Allan doesn’t need censoring, his witterings are simply not important enough to merit such a sanction.

  14. even when in the past if I deleted a comment it was to try and maintain the peace whether between myself and someone else, or between others.

    Colm calls it correctly people like Allan aren’t subtle and they still exist and always will. I want them to speak up, so we have no doubt who they are and what they believe. The covert bigots are worse, because they know they are preaching hate, but disguise it.

    I have never banned anyone, nor asked for their banning.

    Kurt you’ve been banned before yet you’re still here…….

    I believe if people have differences they should argue it out…. make their case and either convince or ridicule.

  15. Paul McMahon, on December 7th, 2019 at 9:51 AM Said: Edit Comment
    Aren’t these the guys you lambasted as ‘scholars’and ‘super witnesses who were gf going to tell the great unwashed’ what to think?

    yes, but since you all are so impressed by such nonsense I feel it important to put up the one out of 4 that was honest.

  16. yeah fair enough fellas, i dunno why he bothers visiting here tbh
    I read nothing he says, just sometimes you have to scan thru to get to next comment
    makes me sick, like i would be at kiddy-fiddling , i will put up with it ..
    cheers

  17. Kurt.

    Which is I disagree with an even find some of these comments offensive I can’t sad with you on banning him. I’m totally against censorship and this is one of the few sites that allows this level of free speech.
    I hope you decide to stay mate.
    You and Colm are totally right about Pete Moore’s hypocrisy. He threatened to ban me several times for pretty tame insults, whilst being equally as insulting himself. But at the same time he’s not only never threatened to ban Allan, but he also seems to agree with much of what Allan says.

  18. But he also seems to agree with much of what Allan says

    I don’t know if that’s the case Dave. I think that Pete sees him as somewhat of a useful idiot in that Pete knows that he can throw something out and the head-the-ball will latch onto it and spend the rst of the time throwing the snowballs Pete has made.

  19. kurt, on December 7th, 2019 at 11:58 AM Said:

    Somebody ban this tramp !

    The posts which upset (((kurt))) are at 11.16am and 11.21am. The first links to Jewish Forward and shows how proud they are of the fact that three of four ‘expert witnesses’ in the impeachment assault on a constitutionally-elected President are jews. Is this ‘anti-semitic’?

    The second post reveals the origins of Drag Queen Story Hour, which is a satanic assault via public libraries on the minds of young children.

    Of the two posts cited and the content of the links, is anybody disputing the accuracy of the text? Does it matter any more or do apparent emotions and demands for expulsion trump arguments made using source material from those who in turn deny what they themselves write?

  20. I used to argue for an Alan filter that would block it showing up to any individual who didn’t want to see his nonsense

  21. I feel it important to put up the one out of 4 that was honest.

    And just by chance the one who agrees with you politically? Strange coincidence.

    Pat, the Don Dons trying to block this at every twist and turn with their faux criticisms have been absolutely dishonest.

  22. nothing strange about it….. he has been the only non=partisan to testify this week and up until the other day I had refused to post any of it.

    As for DonDon trying to block this that just goes against the facts.

  23. Yeah, ‘non-partisan’

    I didn’t say Don Don, I said the Don Dons.

    they have been dragged kicking and screaming to this and every faux, dishonest objection raised has been batted out of the park.

  24. The whole thing is faux….. no Due Process.

    Not participating is the best thing to do.

  25. Phantom…. and anyone else. This is worth the read.

    https://www.thenation.com/article/the-history-of-congressional-mayhem/

  26. Repeating previous innaccuracies won’t make them any less innaccurate Pat.

  27. Interesting……

    https://magadailyreport.com/2019/12/bill-barr-indicts-8-people-for-illegally-funneling-millions-in-foreign-money-to-hillarys-campaign-in-2016/

    In an odd twist of fate, Bill Barr just arrested 8 people and charged them with illegally funneling foreign money to Hillary Clinton’s 2016 campaign.

    But it gets weirder. One of those charged is George Nader – it looks like he flipped as the feds have him locked up on kiddie porn charges.

    Nader works as a straw man for the middle east sheiks and was involved in trying to influence certain members of Trump’s team as well. He was a witness for Bob Mueller.

    But he was also playing the Democrats in case they won, as is the custom of the swamp – both sides play the same game and foreign money is awash in our system.

  28. nor will anything make your view accurate Paul.

  29. Pat, we’ve covered this before but if you care to explain your allegation again I’ll explain how you’re incorrect again.

  30. at best you’ll have a middle man Khawaja charged with something or other
    Crown Prince Mohammed bin Zayed, the de facto ruler of the United Arab Emirates, is one of the biggest spenders on influence in Washington. This is not really news, and its incomparable to trumps and rudy’s crimes of extortion , witholding aid and attempting to influence 2020
    you got chickenfeed pat, but by all means if they broke the law, justice needs to be done

    see how easy it is to say that. can you say same about trump and rudy ..

  31. The indictment accused Mr. Nader of funneling more than $3.5 million in illicit campaign donations through Mr. Khawaja to buy access and influence in Washington — initially with Mrs. Clinton and her Democratic allies during the 2016 campaign, and then with Donald J. Trump after he won the election — to gain “favor” and “potential financial support” from an unnamed foreign government.

    case closed, nothing to see, minor story. Millions go into usa elections and obscene amount

  32. kurt, on December 7th, 2019 at 11:58 AM Said:

    Somebody ban this tramp !

    kurt, on December 7th, 2019 at 5:58 PM Said:

    I read nothing he says

    Clearly a lie – who would lie like that?

    kurt, on December 7th, 2019 at 12:48 PM Said:

    Paul it’s unacceptable. I feel so strongly about it that I want to put myself forward on a head to head with Allan.
    ATW vote .
    If Allan stays I go . If you vote him out I stay and contribute more . Am willing and able to post threads . Let’s talk about it

    The chutzpah of that post – wanders onto a blog and attempts to get a visitor of long-standing bannedover the head of the custodian. I wonder who would do that?

    Anyway, this is DV’s site and as long as I can provide evidence in support of opinions which DV obviously doesn’t share, then that’s legitimate surely? If I just posted insults and threats as leftists have done, then that would merit a ban.

    Let’s look at what I posted:

    Jews learned from 1933 that there weren’t enough jews to destroy Germany – they got others to do it for them. In this era, having learned from 1933 that there aren’t (corrected) enough jews to destroy the US, they’re bringing in others to do it for them. Assault at the top, and assault at the bottom

    As one sees, that’s exactly true. Jews are the drivers of the assault on Trump and the drivers of the destruction of white countries by mass migration from the 3rd-world.

    I feel it important to put up the one out of 4 that was honest.

    Who were the other three?

  33. The Jews didn’t destroy Germany In that era

    Ultimately, Hitler destroyed Germany When the idiot invaded the USSR, and when he declared war on the United States

    Nazi Germany was on peaceful terms with the USSR when Hitler ordered the invasion

  34. ON TOPIC

    Pat, you remember saying “where’s the crime?”, here’s what 604 law professors agreed upon:

    1) The law professors noted that impeachment is limited to the narrow question of whether Trump’s conduct was constitutional.
    Impeachment is not about “whether the President committed a crime” and it is not “available for disagreements over policy, even profound ones, nor for extreme distaste for the manner in which the President executes his office.”

    2) House Speaker Nancy Pelosi similarly told reporters on Thursday that while Trump is a “coward” when it comes to gun violence, while he is “cruel” by failing to help the Dreamers, and while he is “in denial” about climate change, “that’s about the election.”

    so there we have it, there are two separate matters there

    1) Impeachment and 2) Election

    I trust that clears things up for ya, or are you smarter than 604 law professors?

    careful how you answer 😉

  35. What should Trump do about the young illegal aliens?” Dreamers “

    Please Be very specific

    Please include detailed proposals About the new young illegal aliens that will be crossing in the next two weeks

    Lets not pull on heart strings let’s get specific

  36. Pat, you remember saying “where’s the crime?”, here’s what 604 law professors agreed upon:

    Good luck with that Kurt. Pat thinks that Trump is the messiah version 2. He walks on water and all his sins are cleansed whatsoever they are. He could shoot Hillary on Fox and Friends and would still get a bye-ball.

  37. Phantom that’s for the election – what makes sense to you ?
    Peter I don’t doubt that expect to hear – if the president does it’s not a crime.
    Those types really should have kept the English king
    They can’t handle democracy and what it entails regarding oaths responsibility
    And they probably have never read the constitution
    Certainly don5 understand it at all well .
    Selah

  38. Pass the DREAM act 🙄

  39. The “ legalize illegals “ crowd on ATW never gets specific, even after all these many years

  40. the DREAM act is very specific

  41. Yes but for many Americans its a NIGHTMARE and those are the ones Trump relies on !

  42. that’s easy colm , there ya go phantom vote Trump 2020 and you have no worries about the specifics ( which by the way are VERY Clear )

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DREAM_Act or Google ( its a popular search engine )

    or maybe come and and say what you worried about, precisely 🙂

    Maybe do a thread on it ? so many options / choices

    or throw toys out of pram – lol

    cheers

  43. No it’s not specific on the question that I asked.

    This isn’t a new question. I’ve addressed it several times over the years, you guys never answered it then, any more than you will answer it now

    The DREAM Act legalizes certain young illegals already here. We are supposed to feel sorry for them, so let’s do that.

    Let’s say we pass the DREAM Act on January 1 2020.

    There is a continuing flow of illegals which will continue after January 1 2020. If you pass ther DREAM Act, you’ve just created a powerful new incentive for more illegal immigration since you’ve created a mechanism for legalizing the kids, who will now be a type of “ anchor babies “ – because once the kids are legalized who would be so cruel as to deport the parents and split up the family

    The Dems ( including the Dems here ) never address this issue; Trump insists on dealing with future illegal immigration Before he will consider legalizing the current illegals. On this issue, this he has the high moral ground.

    Again, I’ve said this more than once.

    The illegal immigration problem should be addressed. We should never do things that we know will make things much worse. The DREAM Act would make the problem worse.

  44. To be fair, Phantom does make prescient points that do need addressing. You do need to address a long term policy that regulates immigration, including how to deal with families and the presence of children amongst unlawful immigrant incomers . A policy that effectively ensures any future unlimited number of children and their families must be allowed to stay cannot hold.

  45. Emerald Pimpernel,

    I used to argue for an Alan filter that would block it showing up to any individual who didn’t want to see his nonsense

    I’ve actually written and Allan filter myself which is a HTML plug-in that stops Allans posts displaying in the browser. I actually did this not because of the content he was posting but because he was posting so many extremely long posts it was getting extremely tiresome to scroll back and forth through these on my small tablet display.

  46. You’re missing some beauties Dave. Allan’s gems never fail to raise a chuckle 😉

  47. I honestly think that sometimes he’s deliberately parodying himself.

  48. Colm,

    You’re missing some beauties Dave. Allan’s gems never fail to raise a chuckle 😉

    I turned off the Allan blocker(TM), about a year ago when I got a tablet with a larger screen. I don’t usually read Allen’s long posts as they tend to be very repetitive.
    He’s basically been posting the same stuff for the last 10 years at least that I know of. I do still need some of his responses, and they do sometime to make me chuckle.

  49. Back on Don Don,

    Right now in a number of states the laws allow a baby to be born from his or her mother’s womb in the 9th month. It is wrong. It has to change.

    https://twitter.com/NTarnopolsky/status/1203435271611650048

    This dolt truly is a fucking imbecile.

  50. Phantom on just about every study poll research evidence shows cost benefit is up by people having legal status on every indicator . I will leave you to bark at the moon buddy .

  51. Trump being Impeached for nothing except being elected which is his only crime is a mistake the Democrats will not be able to walk back.

    They failed to convince a single additional person that he should be impeached and instead all they have managed to do was unite the Republicans in the House, (something Paul Ryan couldn’t do) and provided the President and his allies in the Senate the opportunity to now destroy Joe Biden and whoever else they decide to drag into this while at the sametime causing a total disruption to the Democrat Primary Race.

    As for the “Dreamers”…….. Finish the Wall and Seal the Border once that is truly done you give amnesty to those already here that aren’t felons, but no ILLEGAL gets citizenship until that border is secure.

  52. Kurt I’ll get to your piece today sometime

  53. Trump being Impeached for nothing except being elected

    Yeah, for that and for witholding aid in an attempt to procure the help of a foreign government against a domestic political oppenent.

  54. Your plan means a rapidly increasing and continue to flow of illegals

    Which is open borders

    Do you want open borders just say so, Quit playing games

  55. Your plan means a rapidly increasing and continue to flow of illegals

    Which is open borders

    Open borders means that there are no illegals Phantom. It means that people may cross frontiers as they please.

    I believe that Petr was the only person on ATW ever to advocate such a situation.

  56. Kurt’s solution ( and that of I think of all the American Democrats here ) is de facto the same as Petr’s . DREAM Act is open borders

    The family sneaks in, All the kids become legal, No one wants to be a meanie who splits up a family, so the parents get to stay as well

    DREAM Act is a new, very bright attraction to illegal It is open borders

    Petr comes out and says it, all other Democrats in the US play a sly game towards the same goal

  57. I don’t know what Kurt’s solution is and I certainly don’t know what ‘all other Democrats in the US’ say or do but ‘open borders’ means just that, that there are no borders. and therefore no illegals.

    IIRC Petr was the only one here ever to argue for it.

  58. Kurt’s solution is the DREAM Act. He said it on this thread.

    That gives you the same result as Petr, with only one additional step

    Petr spoke straight, the others are sly

  59. Kurt’s solution is the DREAM Act. He said it on this thread

    I stand corrected. He said it at 1.17. It’s still not ‘open borders’

  60. It most certainly is open borders

    It’s open orders without being honest about it

    Kurt hasn’t thought this through but the Democrats have. They know it is open borders, just as free health care for illegals is

    DREAM Act makes all the country’s problems 10 times worse

    It is much more of a misstep than the Reagan amnesty was

  61. It most certainly is open borders

    Hyperbolic nonsense. It has the potential to be a bit mor lax on immigration but ‘open borders’ it certainly is not

  62. Phantom, on December 7th, 2019 at 11:23 PM Said:

    The Jews didn’t destroy Germany In that era

    Somebody needs to read beyond what’s ‘permitted’. With millions of unemployed, the economy being utterly destroyed by the parasite, and the assault on morality……

    https://www.darkmoon.me/2013/the-sexual-decadence-of-weimar-germany/

    “The decay of moral values in all areas of life—the period of deepest German degradation—coincided exactly with the height of Jewish power in Germany.” — Dr Friederich Karl Wiehe, Germany and the Jewish Question. [1]

    In Mel Gordon’s Voluptuous Panic: The Erotic World of Weimar Berlin, we enter a depressingly sordid milieu akin to the subterranean world of the sewer rat: a world which owed its existence in large part to German Jewry. Without Jewish money and influence, such a world would never have come into being. Nor was there anything the Germans could do to extricate themselves from this artificially created hothouse of erotomania and sexual deviance in which they now found themselves ensnared.

    There were no fewer than 17 different prostitute types in this Jew-created brothel city: eight outdoor types and nine indoor ones, each with their specialities and slang terminology.

    The assault on Europeans is not just against our economic and moral well-being, but has become an assault on our very genome – through mass migration of the 3rd-world into our living space supported, as is sadly evident, by the weakest minds of our own people.

  63. !!!

    Legalizing all illegals who came here as minors, and incentivizing an unlimited number of more young illegals to come and then legalizing all of them “ a bit more lax “

    !!!

  64. Allan

    Your idol Hitler destroyed Germany

  65. I’ve read the Dream Act and it’s pretty restrictive. It may also potenially mean that in some cases immediate family members may join the child in the states. ‘Open borders’ means that the child, it’s parents, siblings, cousins, grandparents and neighbours could walk over the non border and settle if they so wished.

    Oppose the Dream Act all you wish but don’t try to dishonestly suggest it’s some kind of ‘open borders’ Act and invent straw ‘open borders guys’ men to shut down people like Kurt.

  66. Dave Alton

    As soon as I see a post with multiple quotes I check to see the author and just walk on by

  67. It’s —de facto—Open Borders; just what you guys want. A turd in a nice package, whose title is misleading .

    Because who would want to stop a young person’s dream? Wink wink

  68. Guys, you seem to be missing the point.

    Head-the-ball doesn’t care about the veracity of the statements, he doesn’t care if you believe them or not, the only thing that matters is that the narrative must be promoted and every time you open a mooncat link or watch a bonkers video it’s seen as some sort of victory in spreading the propaganda.

  69. I haven’t opened one of Allan’s links in a long time

    If you are so stupid as to want neo Nazi cookies all over your machine, click on the links as you wish

  70. Phantom, on December 8th, 2019 at 4:58 PM Said:

    Allan

    Your idol Hitler destroyed Germany

    Under Hitler and debt-free money, Germany recovered in an astonishing manner to become the greatest single power in science and engineering, as has been shown. That model had to be destroyed by the money-power before other people overthrew the debt-system in their countries. Nor could a peace be concluded whilst Germany’s debt-free economy existed, hence ‘unconditional surrender’.

  71. It’s —de facto—Open Borders

    ‘De facto’ is much like the adverb ‘technically’. Anyone who uses them i a discussion are usually trying to draw bad analogies which don’t exist.

    Open borders’ means that the child, its parents, siblings, cousins, grandparents and neighbours could walk over the non border and settle if they so wished

    That’s ‘open borders’, shouting hyperbolic and disingenuous ‘de facto’ won’t make the Dream Act that.

    Just what you guys want

    I can’t speak for others here but I certainly don’t want ‘open borders’. You seem to be yet again inventing things to suit your narrative.

  72. Phantom, on December 8th, 2019 at 5:18 PM Said:

    I haven’t opened one of Allan’s links in a long time

    If you are so stupid as to want neo Nazi cookies all over your machine, click on the links as you wish

    Brilliant!! As is seen from above, I link to jewish sources

    Allan@Aberdeen, on December 7th, 2019 at 11:16 AM Said:

    On Thursday, Nancy Pelosi announced that they would be proceeding with the process of impeaching Donald Trump. This announcement followed a very bizarre hearing held in the House Judiciary Committee chaired by the Jew Jerrold Nadler.

    The hearing reaffirmed just how Jewish this entire impeachment circus has been.

    The hearing featured four witnesses, three of whom are Jews, that fancy themselves as ‘constitutional scholars’. Each of these Jews have previously expressed support for impeaching Trump.

    https://forward.com/fast-forward/435943/impeachment-pamela-karlan-testimony/

    Their own statements make their own intentions perfectly clear

  73. Here’s a classic……

    Phantom – click on this one 🙂 It’s safe

    https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-2008-dec-19-oe-stein19-story.html

    I have never been so upset by a poll in my life. Only 22% of Americans now believe “the movie and television industries are pretty much run by Jews,” down from nearly 50% in 1964. The Anti-Defamation League, which released the poll results last month, sees in these numbers a victory against stereotyping. Actually, it just shows how dumb America has gotten. Jews totally run Hollywood.

  74. Phantom is right on his border position, the Dream Act and Sanctuary Cities is an open border policy and it’s not just the 20% conservative core that’s pissed about it.

    You know you all forget because the last three years feel like ten, but what got Trump elected was not the Russians it was his stance on immigration. He played the border issue not in the border states but nation wide and to the blue collar workers that vote democrat. That’s how he won states like Pa and all those electoral districts where small business construction contractors and manufacturers were displaced by the nationwide distribution of the illegals that occured under Obama.

  75. The Dream Act and Sanctuary Cities is an open border policy

    This is an ‘open border’ policy Pat:

    Open borders’ means that the child, its parents, siblings, cousins, grandparents and neighbours could walk over the non border and settle if they so wished

    Whereas the Dream Act

    …[is] pretty restrictive. It may also potenially mean that in some cases immediate family members may join the child in the states.

    If you’re going to oppose and argue against the Dream Act then by all means do so however it’s not ‘open borders’ no matter how you may try to present it.

  76. It was his key sham promise to build a wall along the US southern border and make the Mexican government pay for it?

  77. At work so only pop in on breaks .
    Just from an intelligent perspective it’s clear neither extreme option is workable . Open borders or The Wall.
    The UK got smart and started processing ( after pressure ) the Europeans already here so they could remain and work .
    That’s the sort of thing needs doing in USA . You don’t wait for perfect solutions you act as best you can to get some of the backlog sorted

  78. Kurt

    How do you propose to completely end all illegal immigration?

    Or do you want to end it?

  79. The wall is being built and if you believed Mexico would pay for it I got a bridge you can buy

  80. Anyone who voted for Trump believed it

    Just like they believed that he would drain the swamp, When he is the king of corruption

  81. So you’re saying that Don Don decieved the electorate with a campaign promise he couldn’t possibly deliver?

    Three years and there is no wall being built along the US southern border. There may be stretches of fencing going up in some places but there is no wall being built along the border.

  82. Paul…… the Wall is being built… not fences we are spending billions. The first thing they were working on is where the old fences were collapsed and in disrepair.

    from back in August

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nd1qitmwFdc

  83. That’s a metallic fence Pat not a wall. As I said, stretches of fencing are going up in some places but there is no wall being built along the border.

    And Don Don decieved the US electorate with a key promise that he couldn’t possibly deliver.

  84. You can never end all illegals they figure out new ways . It’s a cat mouse game .
    But you don’t use that as an excuse not to grant rights to those working here . Or do you ?