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By Patrick Van Roy On January 19th, 2020

23 Responses to “Hmm”

  1. The US was ranked 27th despite spending the most:

    “The U.S. continues to spend more on health care. In 2016, the U.S. spent 17.8 percent of its gross domestic product (GDP) on health care, while the average spending level among all high-income countries was 11.5 percent of GDP.”


  2. Can’t read ,the twitter links

    What is the message here and have you verified the numbers

  3. Twitter is IMO the worst possible medium for information. Any eegit can make any claim on Twitter and it’s right up there among bits of genuine information.

    Phantom, it’s a mess, but generally if you click on the last link in any such Twitter reference (here “2020”), you get something (but please don’t click “Healthcare” !)

  4. https://gript.ie/dr-maitiu-o-tuathail-the-very-future-of-local-gps-is-at-stake-in-this-election/

  5. Twitter is a cesspool, but you can find some interesting stories.

    What Gript is I have no clue.


  6. Yes

    I’ve made a few short experiments with Twitter, And have found it entirely unsatisfactory. Some years ago here I said that it was “ grunting “, when we might be trying to be reading, analyzing or thinking or understanding

    In politics it’s generally a torrent of unedited nonsense leavened with extreme opinion, much with its origin in unknown sources

    Anyone who spends a lot of time on Twitter has no time to do any serious reading, and it shows

    No wonder so many people have no clue

  7. Gript appears to be a kind of perhaps alternative, conservative Irish political website?

    This is the first time I have seen it

  8. Gript is a conservative anti EU anti choice website masquerading as a ‘news’ website:


    It’s run by a anaonymous contributers, this guy:


    And this ‘independent’:


  9. There would be plenty of conservative And or anti-abortion people in Ireland,

    But in my experience there are very few there who are anti-EU. Ireland would be one of the most pro EU countries in Europe?

  10. I’m not saying that Phantom. I’m saying that those behind the website are anti EU and anti choice.

    I agree, Ireland has its fair share of those you speak of above.

  11. Very good

  12. I wonder if this is a repeat of Tony Bliar and the NHS? Throw many millions at the NHS but fail to improve process and management and it was simply wasted money.

  13. The NHS is significantly underfunded

    A lot of its problems stem from that

  14. I disagree the NHS is completely fully funded for a population of 60million. Sadly it’s being tasked to accommodate a official population of 65million and an ACTUAL population of probably 80millions.

  15. An ACTUAL population of probably 80millions

    Do you have a basis for that figure DIG?

    Do you know which part of the UK has the worst NHS waiting lists?

  16. https://www.independent.co.uk/news/business/comment/city-eye-facts-on-a-plate-our-population-is-at-least-77-million-5328454.html

    City Eye: Facts on a plate: our population is at least 77 million

    Martin Baker
    Sunday 28 October 2007 00:00

    It is the statistic that dare not speak its name, though eventually it must. It has huge ramifications for the civil and political life of this country, the health of the equity markets and, most immediately, the residential property market. So don’t forget you read it here first: the population of the UK is presently somewhere between 77 and 80 million.

    The 2001 census, already hopelessly out of date and easy to avoid for those who find filling in forms a trifle inelegant, numbered us at a little under 59 million. But as statistics go, that one’s most definitely a damned lie.

    My sources for the above statement are good, but scared of admitting the truth for fear of incurring the wrath of Whitehall. It’s like the best way of monitoring illegal drug consumption: forget the pious statements from ministers – the foolproof method is to sample our water and the effluent in it. That’s easily the best way of monitoring what the nation has been consuming.

    Consumption – that’s the thing. Based on what we eat, one big supermarket chain reckons there are 80 million people living in the UK. The demand for food is a reliable indicator; as Sir Richard Branson says, you can have all the money in the world but you can only eat onelunch and one dinner.

    The supermarket in question was privately lobbying the Competition Commission to let it grow its market share. The argu- ment, reasonably enough, was that the market was far bigger than the regulator realised, so expanding the network was fair.

    I have a second, respectable, source. A major, non-commercial agricultural institution reckons there are 77 million of us in the UK. Again, its reckoning is based on what we eat.

    That faint background noise you’re hearing as you read this is the sound of everyone slithering off the record. Why? In political terms, standing behind these figures would be to toss a hand grenade into a vat of gasoline. People would be hounded out of a job for scaremongering.

    The Office for National Statistics’ figures, published last week, predict a population of 75 million by 2051. It’s an honest estimate but horribly wide of the mark because number counting doesn’t work effectively. If you want to know how many there are of us, ask a food firm.

    If the true numbers were revealed, the Little Englanders and xenophobes would come out in force about the evils of immigration. But that’s what made America great in the 19th century, and it’s a driving force of our economy right now. It’s also anti-inflationary.

    David Buik, a money manager with broker BGC Partners, was talking of “one million Eastern Europeans unaccounted for in London” on television last week. I suspect he’s right if somewhat conservative in his estimate. How many do you see working in the construction industry and waiting at tables?

    And when I say “anti-inflationary”, I mean they are getting rotten wages. Dignified by the term “cheap labour”, the hidden hordes will do well for the services sector, among others. People are assets – to maintain and to be maintained – so we are wealthier as a nation.

    Yes – the economy is more important than the people OF this island

  17. And the NHS for your lax immigration policy

    NHS is significantly underfunded by any Proper comparison with The other rich countries

  18. Don’t Blame the NHS for your lax immigration policy

  19. You guys have spent less than Peer Nations for a very long time. You’re only now starting to catch up with the lower tier spenders

    If you want to properly assess blame, look in the mirror. You are probably spending too much money on some things, but the NHS is clearly not one of them. Numbers don’t lie


  20. When compared with five peer nations, At no point in time since 1970 did you spend more per capita than any of the other five

  21. ot…..

    This guy died mid-song


  22. According to the 2011 census the population of the UK was under 63 million:

    On census night, the population of the United Kingdom (UK) was estimated to be 63.2 million


    A Deep State cover up for some unspecified rason no doubt.

    BTW DIG, according to the Northern Ireland Director of the Royal College of Surgeons the north of Ireland has the longest NHS waiting times:

    In England, with its population of around 55 million, the latest figures — relating to June this year — show that 1,089 patients had to wait more than a year to begin consultant-led treatment after a referral by a GP

    In Northern Ireland, with only a fraction of the population, an incredible 97,000 patients spent more than a year waiting on their first consultant-led outpatient appointment, according to the latest waiting time figures published by the Department of Health relating to March.


    Care to forward a theory as to why the waiting times crisis is worse among a population of less than 2 million?

  23. The NHS is still very underfunded.