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Martin Luther King Jr Day

By Patrick Van Roy On January 20th, 2020

We mentioned here yesterday the cesspool that is Twitter. I check twitter daily, it is not a place to engage in debate or conversation. As I do my morning perusal of the days papers and publications I tweet out Links to articles I’ve read that day.  What twitter is good for is an example of the reversal of civility in today’s society, a total lack of conversation of our differences. Instead you will find hostility, verbal violence and even the occasional call for actual violence.

There was a fellow that I followed a term that is stupid. You follow someone on twitter when their comments spark thoughts or bring something to the fore that you might have missed. He is a half ass musician, but his commentary is usually insightful and passionate  until last week.

He made a statement

@ErniePenley  “They also gave “We The People” the power to physically take our government back when the power hungry & crooked politicians go too far. I believe we are there!” un-Quote… That’s a call for violence one that I can not condone. I called him on it and he flipped out and started to add all sorts of qualifiers as to what he “Really” meant. 
This was my reply: In today’s climate you need to show more clarity in your words. When you say PHYSICAL removal without the qualifiers that you’re now adding you give AMMO to be accused of calling for violence. You said Physical Violence and Time is now. The qualifiers are important use them please.  His response was to Block me. 
It is this attitude that permeates the air once again. Calls for violence. There is no cause in Politics for violence. MLK proved that you did not need it to win, and a victory without violence is the only victory that counts except in War. Politics is not war, it is supposed to be the Arena of Civilised Men.
MLK knew this, preached this, and gave his life for it. We should all strive to meet the highbar that he has set.

17 Responses to “Martin Luther King Jr Day”

  1. What twitter is good for is an example of the reversal of civility in today’s society, a total lack of conversation of our differences. Instead you will find hostility, verbal violence and even the occasional call for actual violence.

    People often make comments like this about today’s society being worse now than in the past but this is nonsense. I accept there have been good times and bad times, but society today is really no worse or better than it has been throughout history.

  2. I wouldn’t say that there’s never a reason for violence.

    The nonviolent strategy of Gandhi and King worked because they there was an appeal to the conscience of the British and American public, and to some in those governments.

    In Kings case, presidents LBJ and to some extent JFK were allies.

    There would be no equivalent allies to justice in say North Korea or China. If you publicly protest those communist regimes, you will go to jail for decades, or you’ll get a bullet, and your family will receive an invoice for the cost of the bullet ( China actually does that )

  3. I agree that twitter as a technology is really bad for intelligent discourse.

    But in the US there was sharp political division and people yelling past one another in the era of Gingrich and Ted Kennedy. Both of them made the environment much worse, way before twitter

  4. Phantom,

    I wouldn’t say that there’s never a reason for violence.

    I agree. I think violence should be a last resort. But what if you live on during incredibly oppressive regime, that’s murdering its own citizens? Violence outside of war is sometimes necessary.

  5. There is never a reason for violence in internal politics.

  6. Patrick

    There is never a reason for violence in internal politics.

    What if you have an oppressive dictatorship that murdering its own people and has total control of the military and police. Would an armed uprising not be acceptable?

  7. There is a time for Declared Revolution Dave, but a Revolution isn’t politics. It’s the result of the failure of politics.

  8. Good luck with a “ declared revolution “ In North Korea or China

  9. In China it will happen, not so NK

  10. There is never a reason for violence in internal politics

    Be interesting to see how long that sentiment would last were an act banning all semi automatic weapons passed.

    There are of course times when political violence isn’t only justified but the correct and moral response.

    Twitter is a sewer over inhabited with a huge population of knuckle draggers, sinister zealots and bitter maniacs.

  11. The U.K. has a total ban on firearms

    So the blacks use knives and machetes instead.

  12. Internal oppression is just as bad as external oppression

  13. “There is no cause in Politics for violence. MLK proved that you did not need it to win, and a victory without violence is the only victory that counts except in War. Politics is not war, it is supposed to be the Arena of Civilised Men.” Very well stated. Some will nitpick but the principle stands. History shows that the happiest and most productive times are those of non-violence.

    I think it should be noted that MLK was a well educated Christian minister and he was following the teachings of the New Testament.

  14. I think it should be noted that MLK was a well educated Christian minister and he was following the teachings of the New Testament.

    Thank goodness he wasn’t following the teachings of the old testament. Or even killed everyone including the children, except for the women who haven’t known a man..

  15. Be interesting to see how long that sentiment would last were an act banning all semi automatic weapons passed.

    Those Laws were passed in Va and the 2nd Amendment people protested…. TODAY
    not a shot was fired.

    There are 300 Million Legal Firearms along with 13 Trillion rounds of Ammo in Law Abiding Hands.

    There are 200 Million Firearms in the hands of Criminals.

    They can’t disarm the Criminals, the Law Abiding have nothing to fear and we know it.

  16. Those Laws were passed in Va and the 2nd Amendment people protested…. TODAY
    not a shot was fired

    I was referring to a federal as opposed to state law. I don’t know what the other comments are meant to refer to.

  17. Never happen Paul.

    The refer to a small thing called reality.