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BACK IN YOUR BOX, TWITTER POLICE

By Pete Moore On February 14th, 2020

It comes to something when a judge makes the right decision and sides with liberty and you think “wow”.

The police response to an ex-officer’s allegedly transphobic tweets was unlawful, the High Court has ruled.

Harry Miller was visited by Humberside Police at work in January last year after a complaint about his tweets.

He was told he had not committed a crime, but it would be recorded as a non-crime “hate incident”.

The court found the force’s actions were a “disproportionate interference” with his right to freedom of expression.

Officers visited Mr Miller’s workplace and then spoke with him on the phone, and he was left with the impression “that he might be prosecuted if he continued to tweet”, according to a judge.

Speaking after the ruling, Mr Miller, from Lincolnshire, said: “This is a watershed moment for liberty – the police were wrong to visit my workplace, wrong to ‘check my thinking'” […]

Mr Miller posted a number of tweets between November 2018 and January 2019 about transgender issues as part of the debate about reforming the Gender Recognition Act 2004.

In one tweet Mr Miller wrote: “I was assigned mammal at birth, but my orientation is fish. Don’t mis-species me.”

This tweet was among several others which were reported to Humberside Police as being allegedly transphobic.

This is a very important decision and a harsh rebuke for the police. Mr Justice Julian Knowles cited JS Mill and Orwell in his summation, noting that we have never had a Cheka, a Gestapo or a Stasi in this country. Well there’s the benefit of knowing your history, right there.

In short, it means that no matter how nice Loretta’s underwear drawer, if he has a beard and a cock then you can say that he’s a bloke. And the Twitter police can go do one.

47 Responses to “BACK IN YOUR BOX, TWITTER POLICE”

  1. I speak for all here when I say that those police and their bosses should be terminated.

    They were doing things that were harmful instead of fighting crime.

  2. This is a very important decision and a harsh rebuke for the police. Mr Justice Julian Knowles cited JS Mill and Orwell in his summation, noting that we have never had a Cheka, a Gestapo or a Stasi in this country. Well there’s the benefit of knowing your history, right there.
    In short, it means that no matter how nice Loretta’s underwear drawer, if he has a beard and a cock then you can say that he’s a bloke. And the Twitter police can go do one.

    The liberal progressives will be fuming.

  3. Phantom, on February 14th, 2020 at 6:24 PM Said:
    I speak for all here when I say that those police and their bosses should be terminated.

    We touched on this briefly earlier on another post..

    Not possible I’m afraid, they are run and controlled by Common Purpose, there is no down, only sideways and upwards.

    The circus rolls,on relentless.

  4. A good decision by the judge.

  5. It is, but it’s disturbing that this ever got that far, and that any police admin would want their officers carrying on this way.

    How did you ever get to such a place?

  6. Politics, and the very real political correctness terror.

    I have said, repeatedly, that state employees are literally terrified of being seen, suspected, thought of or accused as racist, sexist, homophobic or anything else which the politically correct state has deemed to be the head of all crime. I have said it repeatedly because it’s true. Just to arouse suspicion is to be put through hell. So add “transphobic” to the list.

    The Left has done its long march through all the institutions. The police included, which is staffed entirely at the senior levels by humanities graduates (i.e. they are inculcated in Marxist drivel.) It takes an extremely brave person to uphold common sense in such places.

  7. If this is what you get in an allegedly conservative government, what will you get under a far left government?

  8. Culturally we’ve had far left governments since 1997. The Tories are centre left economically and far left culturally. They’ve been left wing for so long they don’t even know it.

  9. That sounds correct.

    And the last true national cultural conservative figure that we’ve had here I think was Pat Buchanan, who gave his famous ” culture war ” speech at the Republican Convention in 1992.

    Trump opportunistically checks some of the boxes today, but he’s no cultural conservative.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iO5_1ps5CAc

  10. At last a victory for free speech in the UK. It doesn’t happen often. And a defeat for the Trans Taliban thought police. Maybe the tide has turned at last?

  11. But Labour is heading in the other direction and the Trans Taliban have captured the party. The pledge to expel “transphobic” non-believers is truly Stalinist:

    “Three of the four candidates for the Labour leadership have signed a controversial pledge card drawn up by the Labour Campaign for Trans Rights (LCTR). Some of the 12 pledges include ‘accepting’ that ‘that trans women are women, trans men are men, and non-binary people are non-binary’ and that ‘there is no material conflict between trans rights and women’s rights’. The pledge card also calls on Labour to expel ‘transphobic’ members from the party and for candidates to ‘fight against’ what it calls ‘hate groups’ such as Woman’s Place UK and LGB Alliance – groups which were established to defend women’s and lesbians’ rights against an increasingly authoritarian transgender movement.”

    https://www.spiked-online.com/2020/02/14/weve-been-branded-hateful-for-defending-womens-rights/

  12. This is good news, but sadly a lot more needs to be done to stop this absolutely disgusting assault on free speech in the UK.
    This situation is getting out of hand. The British public need to be making more of a fuss about this before it goes too far and our useless parliament start introducing anti free speech laws.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8006275/Police-record-120-000-cases-non-crime-hate-incidents.html

  13. Dave Alton, on February 15th, 2020 at 12:25 PM Said:
    This is good news, but sad

    Those “conspiracy theorists” who were ridiculed and shouted down, did warn what was coming.

    Well, it’s here, it’s real.

    Our governments appear to seriously believe 1984 was a blueprint, not a work of fiction.

    George Orwell was a visionary.

  14. I would suspect that more than one person here Would support laws against free speech, esp when framed as Laws against “ hate speech “

  15. Our governments appear to seriously believe 1984 was a blueprint, not a work of fiction.

    George Orwell was a visionary.

    When people make comments like this, it shows me that either they haven’t read George Orwell’s book nineteen eighty-four, or if they have they certainly haven’t understood it. Our society is nothing like the dystopian nightmare that was depicted in 1984.

  16. Phantom,

    I would suspect that more than one person here Would support laws against free speech, esp when framed as Laws against “ hate speech “

    Opinions on free speech vary greatly. I’m at the extreme end of the spectrum. I would allow all speech, including things like racism and Holocaust denial. I believe any restrictions to a persons speech to be a bad thing. With the obvious exception of things like shouting fire in a crowded theatre, or incitement to violence.

  17. Dave.

    There are striking similarities between Orwell’s story and today’s modern day society.

    Surely you can see this?

  18. Dave.

    Reference the holocaust.

    There is no free speech, you either believe everything we have been told, or you are classed as a “denier”

    The very same template has been transferred to “Global Warming” you simply are unable to have a difference of opinion, or dare to question any part of it.

  19. Speaking after the ruling, Mr Miller, from Lincolnshire, said: “This is a watershed moment for liberty – the police were wrong to visit my workplace, wrong to ‘check my thinking’” […]

    “Check my thinking”?

    Just think about that for a moment.. no pun intended.

  20. Harri.

    The only real similarity I say is that governments lie all the time and like to control their populations.
    However, the society depicted in 1984 is a long way different from the one we live in today. Thankfully.
    One thing George did get right is there we have devices in our homes and on our person, that can listen to our conversations, track on movements and monitor us 24-hours a day. In his book you were forced to have them under threat of torture but in our modern society, we willingly pay for and install them ourselves.

  21. Dave

    Your stance is not an extreme one, Not by prevailing American standards anyway

    I think that most here Would think that a Holocaust denier is a moron and that a racist is a bad guy but that those people have the right to express their views

    prohibited speech IMO should be things like child porn and any threats and incitement

  22. I believe in genuine free speech certainly as far as expressing opinions is concerned. The only exception I would make is anyone attacking my views 😉

  23. I think that most here Would think that a Holocaust denier is a moron

    You can think what you like Phantom.

    Why are you so sure you are not the moron?

  24. For starters, I have visited Auschwitz Birkenau

    You and Allan May think that it was a Club Med, but I don’t think so

  25. censorship is an outrage.

    on the funnier side of life…. the Ultimate Losing Ticket

    https://nypost.com/2020/02/15/bloomberg-reportedly-considering-hillary-clinton-as-his-running-mate/?utm_campaign=SocialFlow&utm_source=NYPTwitter&utm_medium=SocialFlow&__twitter_impression=true&__twitter_impression=true

  26. You and Allan May think that it was a Club Med, but I don’t think so

    That’s all in your tiny mind as well.

    Where have Allan or myself ever claimed Auschwitz Birkenau was “club med”?

  27. aaahhh ya know what’s cowardly is blaming the jews for everything and then denying what was the final solution.

    As long as the US Stands so does Israel….. we won’t ever forget. It would be best the rest of the World not forget that.

  28. Holocaust deniers love to quibble over numbers as a foundation to imply that the wider Holocaust is also incorrect. The fact of course is that the Nazis persecuted and systematically murdered industrial quantities of men women & children based on ethnicity.

    And of course, freedom to question the Holocaust also gives freedom to others to label them deniers.

  29. Harri

    Do you deny that the Hitlerite government in the 1930s and 40s systematically killed millions of Jewish civilians

    Yes or no please

  30. Harri

    You have either not read or ignored the numerous comments where Allan has claimed the Nazi camps holding Jews were humane and well supplied and existed to protect the Jewish inmates.

  31. Yes.

    Millions died of Typhus. Exhaustion, and starvation.

    Gassed and burnt.

    No.

    So, “Club Med” do you agree, Allan or myself have never described Auschwitz Birkenau as “Club Med”?

    A yes or no will do.

  32. Allan has, and you just go along with his nonsense like a nodding dog.

  33. You’re entirely delusional

  34. Allan, like Trump, does have his followers

    I give him ‘ credit “ For that ability to lead, to make other people follow him

  35. Phantom

    I answered your question in all honesty.

    Could you answer mine?

    So, “Club Med” do you agree, Allan or myself have never described Auschwitz Birkenau as “Club Med”?
    A yes or no will do.

  36. Phantom.

    Again, how are you so sure, talking about following the pack like a nodding dog that’s it’s not you who is the moron?

  37. I am mocking you both, not being literal

    It’s too early in the day to be sniffing paint thinner

  38. https://www.jta.org/jewniverse/2014/the-surprisingly-jewish-history-of-club-med

    Please do a book report on this and submit it to the rest of the members

  39. Phantom.

    You have tried that one many, many times.

    It has never worked, and won’t work now.

    Now, can you answer the question?

    A yes or no will do.

  40. What is the question? I forgot

  41. No worries Phantom

    It might be down to sniffing that paint thinner..

    Here you go.

    And nope, linking to some website is not an answer to your original claim.

    So, “Club Med” do you agree, Allan or myself have never described Auschwitz Birkenau as “Club Med”?
    A yes or no will do.

    Your welcome.

  42. Phantom.

    It’s not some terrible trait to admit you are wrong from time to time.

    Others have managed to do it, I know your elevation from the guy in New York as super human higher being intelligence who knows well, just about everything about everything, to the level of us other mere mortals might be a step too far for you, but try some humility now and then.

    It won’t kill you.

    Honestly.

  43. What’s the meaning of yes or no

    Are they binary choices?

    What’s the frequency, Kenneth?

  44. Obviously Allan did not use the words ‘Club Med’ so Harri will smugly take that as him being right and Phantom being wrong, but clearly in the substance of Phantom’s claims he was perfectly correct and the holocaust deniers are so utterly and plainly wrong it isn’t even worth debating the issue.

  45. So, “Club Med” do you agree, Allan or myself have never described Auschwitz Birkenau as “Club Med”?
    A yes or no will do.

    Yes or no.

    Did Allan or myself ever state that on ATW.

    Stop being a coward.

    You are very good at asking direct questions, but not so good at answering them apparently.

    ATW cop out of the year..so far.

    You have serious form on ATW copping out with nonsensical answers.

    And given you spend what appears to be almost every waking hour and a large part of your adult life on this blog.

    That’s some feat.

    Well done.

  46. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uJefPK_UkdM

  47. Obviously Allan did not use the words ‘Club Med’ so Harri will smugly take that as him being right and Phantom being wrong

    Phantom is wrong.

    He simply hasn’t got the balls to admit it.,

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