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I WAS RIGHT ABOUT THE CANOLA VIRUS

By Pete Moore On February 14th, 2020

A couple of weeks ago I suggested that we might like to stop flights from China and travelers who have been to China. Of course that didn’t happen.

Now more and more cases of Chinese Bat Virus are turning up every day in the UK. Every day authorities are becoming more stretched trying to trace carriers and anyone they might have been in contact with.

We can avoid a lot of aggro just by doing what I think.

29 Responses to “I WAS RIGHT ABOUT THE CANOLA VIRUS”

  1. If this is correct, the UK has had nine cases, and no deaths to date.

    Maybe the authorities know what they’re doing here.

  2. oh hell

    https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/countries-where-coronavirus-has-spread/

  3. The Chinese deserve all they get for eating anything which once had a pulse.

    Karma.

  4. I’m shocked this isn’t an attack on liberals.
    Going soft guys ?

  5. Kurt

    I think the message of Pete’s post is clearly meant to be a criticism of liberal attitudes to ‘travel rights’

  6. Canola is an oil seen crop

    I think you might mean covid

  7. Phew thanks Colm I was worried there fer a mo . If I can say that without being accused of a lover of mo Farah .
    Should we send him back as petem claims all of them lot are savages and primitives
    Is Mo who is Muslim the odd one out ? Harri how dya explain why he’s a double double Olympic gold medalist and not a groomer of white children. Ok puzzled . Is thete a simple explanation I may have missed .
    In your own time of course . Thanks

  8. I haven’t commented on that thread Kurt except to say I don’t ever agree with blanket bans or actions against whole racial/ national/ sectarian groups because of the offences committed by some members of those groups.

  9. Agree colm that’s good liberal thinking.
    It’s proper because the opposite targettinn whole groups because of the actions of a few is both insane a lie and perverse . It’s right wing thinking in a nut shell

  10. It’s proper because the opposite targettinn whole groups because of the actions of a few is both insane a lie and perverse .

    “It’s better that thousands of young British girls be jihad-raped than I be thought of as racist.”

  11. As I posted before, I think that this flu is out of control and will spread through most western countries. The good news is that the fatality rate appears to be around 1% which is no worse than average winter flu.

    But there will be big economic casualties. Most of the western airlines have stoppped all flights to and from China and internal Chinese flights are down by 70%. I was going to buy shares in a cruise liner company a few months ago and I’m so glad that I didn’t. Because the cruise liner industry will be absolutely hammered this year.

    “New figures show that flight numbers have crashed from 17,181 flights on January 22, the day before the announcement of Wuhan’s coronavirus quarantine, to just 5,095 by February 4, figures from flight tracking company FlightRadar24 show.”

    https://www.wired.co.uk/article/china-flights-coronavirus

  12. Ahh petem you can’t answer why mo Farah isn’t a child rapist can you .
    I mean he’s Muslim a foreigner a primitive why isn’t he a savage ? Take a guess

  13. The genie is well out of the bottle in the UK. Expect dozens more cases within the next week.

    “Health officials have contacted hundreds of conference attendees in London, after it emerged one of them was later diagnosed with coronavirus. The person, who has not been identified, was at the UK Bus Summit at the QEII Conference Centre last week.”

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-51503292

  14. Ah, and I was planning a trip to Dublin later this year. I guess international travel during a pandemic may not be wise.

  15. I WAS RIGHT ABOUT THE CANOLA VIRUS

    You can get a virus from vegetable oil now!

  16. Charles

    I see no good reason in the world to change your plans.

    There’s a case in San Antonio. Would that keep you from traveling within Texas?

    If it were me, I’d keep an eye on things, but continue to plan on going.

  17. Phantom,

    You would? The case is S.A. is a quarantine issue, but you’re right I guess, keep an eye on things.

  18. Somebody in my work had a friend give them a box of sweet treats from a recent trip to China. Nobody in her family wanted to eat them so she brought them into work and I was quite happy to help polish them off…… and I’m still here 😉

  19. I’ll be surprised if we don’t see face masks on our streets very soon, even though they provide little protection.

  20. You see quite a few people here in London , mainly Chinese people wearing the masks but I have in the last few days seen a few non Chinese face mask wearers.

  21. Some Chinese here wear masks every winter.

    This year, more do.

  22. Colm

    I’ve noticed that a lot of cyclists in London wear masks. Presumably they think it gives them protection from the diesel particles, but I suspect that it makes no difference to the tiny particles which are the most dangerous. It’s good that TFL is switching to electric buses.

  23. Peter,

    I’ll be surprised if we don’t see face masks on our streets very soon, even though they provide little protection.

    You’re correct. This is the mask and filters I use when I work with hazardous chemicals and pretty sure it would also protect you from the Corona virus.

    https://www.axminster.co.uk/3m-7500-series-reusable-half-respirator-ax839416
    https://www.axminster.co.uk/3m-gas-and-vapour-filter-cartridges-ax839418

  24. That’s some heavy kit Dave. I was thinking of the little white mouth and nose masks, you know, the useless ones.

  25. It’s encouraging that the super carrier from Hove is fully free of the virus.
    Looks like those with pre existing conditions are the most vulnerable .

  26. Harri how dya explain why he’s a double double Olympic gold medalist and not a groomer of white children. Ok puzzled . Is thete a simple explanation I may have missed .
    In your own time of course . Thanks

    Kurt.

    You are getting yourself in a virtue signalling lather, no one mentioned all Muslims, only the Pakistani mostly of Bandladeshi origin child rapists. Somalians were not mentioned AFAIK?

    Mo Farah is an exceptional Athlete and distance runner, like many of the other top distance world class runners and athletes. Somalians, Kenyans etc..

    Now Mo Farahs brother, the one that was deported for stabbings and knife crime, he’s a different kettle of fish altogether.

  27. Peter,

    That’s some heavy kit Dave. I was thinking of the little white mouth and nose masks, you know, the useless ones.

    Smaller face masks work to varying degrees to stop some particulate matter from reaching your lungs, but anyway between 5% and 50% still gets through.
    Which means that they are going to have a very variable effect on stopping viruses.
    When I’m doing carpentry work that produces the fine dust I always wear a face mask with 100% effective filters. Otherwise my bogies taste of cedar wood. ☺️

  28. Dave you are correct reference those face masks.

    This blogger is a micro biologist

    Hysteriavirus

    Posted on January 24, 2020 by legiron
    Does anyone remember necrotising fasciitis? An absolutely horrible disease that runs, very fast, under your skin using the lymphatic system. The only hope you had was to be literally skinned alive and face months of skin grafts afterwards – and that’s only if you survived it. It killed in a matter of hours once it took off so very early diagnosis was absolutely essential.

    That was a bacterium. Antibiotics would work but you just didn’t have time for tests. It would take a couple of days to work out the best antibiotic and you’d be dead by then. There were tales of people literally dissolving on train journeys. Which never happened, of course.

    That disease was a rare one and killed a total of eight people one year. The media frenzy was astonishing. People genuinely believed they would melt on the way to work.

    Then we had swine flu, Ebola, and so many others that were going to end the human race and somehow didn’t.

    Now we have coronavirus. It’s a virus. Antibiotics will do nothing at all to it. Antibiotics work by messing up some aspect of cell metabolism and viruses have no metabolism. There’s also no vaccine because there are so many variants. Basically, if it gets in, you have an infection.

    This latest one started in China. It’s now global. This, like all the other infections blamed on climate change, has nothing at all to do with climate change. It has everything to do with modern human mobility – and no, I definitely do not advocate us returning to the horse and cart mode of transport.

    It’s even appeared in Scotland. I live in Scotland. Am I terrified? Nah. I’m a smoker and a drinker and if you believe the hype, those things each give me a 50% chance of dying from them so I’m doomed anyway. This latest coronavirus is killing 3% of those that catch it. It’s an amateur. Diptheria, typhoid fever, many other currently extant diseases are laughing at it.

    Oh I know it’s cold comfort if you happen to be one of the 3% but you know, you’re much more likely to be one of the 97% who catch it and survive.

    Even more likely to be one of the very many who never get it at all. Like all these terrible pandemics, it’s being hyped as the End of Humanity. I doubt any other species on the planet takes such delight in imagining themselves being eradicated from existence. Still, as a horror writer, it’s a useful trait to have in the audience.

    There are many videos of people wearing dust masks in the streets. Viruses are not dust. Viruses are so small you can’t see them with a microscope because they are smaller than the wavelengths of visible light. A dust mask, to a virus, is like driving a truck into the mouth of a large volcano. It’s not even going to touch the sides. Those dust masks serve only one purpose – to make people think they are safe.

    Of course, you can’t provide people with filter masks that could stop viruses. The holes in the filter would be so small you would have trouble breathing through them. What you need is a multi-layer filter which would still not be perfect but which would be a hell of a lot better. A fluted, deep multi-layer filter fitted into a rubber mask that covers your nose and mouth would be the best thing here.

    You know. The sort of thing an ex-microbiologist who’s spent a career working with pathogens and who has recently closed his lab might have lying about in his shed 😉

    It’s a little sobering to recall that I visited China almost 30 years ago. It was work, not a holiday, so I was treated to genuine backstreet Chinese restaurants. When I came back, after ten days, I had lost ten pounds in weight and was, for one of the few times in my life, actually pretty trim.

    Was I sick from the food? No. The food was wonderful. Not at all like the Westernised junk we get here. I lost weight because of the Chinese way of eating. The food is on plates on a lazy-susan in the centre of the table and all you ever have on the tiny plate in front of you is what you are about to eat right now. You stop when you’ve had enough. There is no mound of food on a plate that you have to clear. You take a little bit at a time.

    Okay, some of the food was a bit strange. I tried it all anyway, even dog. Yes, I had to take rabies shots before going to China and they were pointless. They’d eaten all the dogs.

    Of course, dogs aren’t the only carriers of rabies. Bats are another potent source. But I didn’t get offered bat, fortunately. Nor was I offered live baby rat nor the still-writhing remains of a squid. I have eaten most things, even steak cheval (in France) but bats, rats and the still wriggling seafood would have been a challenge.

    I did manage to disgust them by eating a raw garlic clove and telling them what was in haggis. Yes, I managed to eat something that made the Chinese go ‘Ewww!’ I should have that on my gravestone, I think.

    Now we are regaled by images of a Chinese man eating live baby rats and the tale of a Chinese woman who ate a whole bat. I don’t know why that’s remarkable, bats aren’t generally all that big. This dietary regime, apparently, is the cause of all ills. Well, as a smoker, I’m happy to have a day off from that particular blame game. Let the foodies have it for a while.

    The Chinese have always eaten this way. With that size of population you eat what you can get and that has been true for a very long time. It really isn’t the fault of the Chinese people that coronavirus mutated into a new form. It does that all the time, and it’s not the only virus to do it. Rhinovirus is especially adept at it, which is why there is no cure for the common cold (that, and the fact it’s hardly up there with the ’cause of death’ crowd).

    So yes, this is a nasty virus and it spreads easily, just like colds and flu. It’s going to be a horrible experience to get it and there is a 3% chance it might kill you. There’s also a 97% chance it won’t.

    Take simple precautions, just as you would when there’s a cold or flu going around, and chances are you’ll never catch it at all. Don’t put your trust in dust masks, they won’t help in the slightest.

    I think it might be time to put out an anti-hysteria infection book, perhaps with ‘Don’t Panic’ in large, friendly letters on the cover.

    https://underdogsbiteupwards.wordpress.com/2020/01/24/hysteriavirus/

  29. You are getting yourself in a virtue signalling lather, no one mentioned all Muslims, only the Pakistani mostly of Bandladeshi origin child rapists. Somalians were not mentioned AFAIK?

    We need more Somalis because Somalis make Somalia

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