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A CHANGE IS GONNA COME FOR SOME

By Pete Moore On March 25th, 2020

Some 405,000 people have signed up in 24 hours to volunteer with the NHS after a recruitment drive to help the vulnerable amid the coronavirus crisis, the PM Boris Johnson has announced.

Speaking at his daily news conference, he said they would play an “absolutely crucial” role in fighting the virus.

The helpers are needed for delivering food and medicines, driving patients to appointments and phoning the isolated.

Well done to all who have stepped forward. I do hope background checks will be possible. We don’t want wrong’uns involved, and it’s wrong’uns who always look for an opportunity.

Right now a load of people are at home realising that their job isn’t really all that important. It might pay well, they might work in a fancy office, and they be able to to fancy things on a PC. But right now they’re just a spare part in a draw. When this is over plenty of people will give up the PR/media/fashion/whatever job for something more rewarding.

93 Responses to “A CHANGE IS GONNA COME FOR SOME”

  1. i like this new pete 🙂
    i quit computers to work in an area much more rewarding.
    My honest hope and dream is that after this terrible affair the gov’t will seize the opportunity to solve the social care crisis once and for all, and bring it under the umbrella of the NHS, to head off the shameful scandals we see in care homes , and have care workers paid a better wage with travel costs included. Gov’t can do this, once in a generation opportunity, why i might even vote for them if they promised that .

  2. When this is over plenty of people will give up the PR/media/fashion/whatever job for something more rewarding.

    How do you know people in PR/media/fashion/whatever don’t find their jobs rewarding?

  3. A big tip of the hat to those volunteers

    You hear about the few bad guys who cough on people or slash tires, and tend not to take proper notice of the many who do good things, usually with no notice at all ( looking after elderly in their own towns, etc )

  4. That’s absolutely true Phantom. I generally find that it’s the case with the youth too.

  5. Yes

  6. ahhh one of the best song and singers

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fPr3yvkHYsE

  7. “But right now they’re just a spare part in a draw. When this is over plenty of people will give up the PR/media/fashion/whatever job for something more rewarding.”

    Depends what you mean by more rewarding. You often mention “unlimited wants” when discussing how markets work. You don’t mention unlimited needs. Once this crisis blows over people will go back to demanding wants not needs, and if it pays well enough people will go back to providing those wants.

  8. Dave/FO –

    Of course. We are all have our own motivations and triggers. But people want to be part of things. The London 2012 Olympics had a deluge of volunteers for that reason. All of a sudden now we have a great national effort, so people want in. It’s the kind of event which causes lives to change off the back of it.

  9. Over 500,000 volunteers now. I also hope that they get tested. You don’t want a load of unknowns delivering to the vulnerable.

    Either there’s hope for the country or a lot of people are already fed up with their spouse.

  10. Meanwhile….is anybody dying at the seasonal rate from ‘normal’ flu, or are the numbers being stacked into the Corona pile? That will be interesting to see

  11. Well done to the volunteers! I hope it all works out OK.

  12. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-52043767

    The government has ordered 10,000 ventilators from Dyson to help deal with the coronavirus crisis …

    Dyson has had hundreds of engineers working round the clock to design the ventilators from scratch.

    More great engineers. From vacuum cleaners and fans to ventilators in a week. That’s real diversity.

    I hope they’re cheaper than a Dyson vacuum cleaner though, or the economy will never recover.

  13. Dyson of course is a actual, smart, practical person

    https://www.britannica.com/biography/James-Dyson

  14. More great engineers. From vacuum cleaners and fans to ventilators in a week.

    You left out the fact that uber tax-dodger Dyson does all his manufactiring in the far east. And he now lives in a super top floor condo in Singapore the size of Buckingham Palace. In other words, he is the very model of today’s globalist elite, but somehow Rightworld still sees him as a patriot.

  15. Unfortunately in the modern world, nearly all small electric devices like Dyson makes are manufactured in Asia

    If Mr. Dyson decided to shift production to say England or the US, he’d be at a big price disadvantage as respects his competitors.

    What should he do differently in the current environment, one where his competition is making their things in China and Vietnam etc

  16. I think the backlash against globalisation will hit Dyson as well as others like him. People could maybe accept that the manufacturing is now all abroad (to be fair most of the R&D is still in Britain, at least for now) but the shameless personal tax-dodging is harder to accept. The man earns tens of millions a year but chooses to pay no UK tax. That’s not a good look in 2020, if it ever was before.

  17. If what I see on the web is right, their annual revenue is about 5 billion pounds

    Compared to many of their competitors, they’re tiny. Dashing, makes good things, but small.

  18. Ehem

    @Jefferson_MFG

    Dyson to build 15,000 ventilators at its Hullavington campus in Wiltshire. 10,000 paid for by UK government and remainder donated by Sir James Dyson

  19. We have had a Dyson vacuum cleaner for years. It cleans well enough, but I’d give it seven out of ten, mainly because it was so expensive and is difficult to take apart to empty. So much for engineering genius.

  20. Yay Dyson

  21. Peter –

    You’ve had it for years. Maybe it was market leading at the time.

    Anyway, did you say that your daughter contracted coronavirus?

  22. Yes Pete

    Our daughter is fine now, but me and her suspect that we may have it as well, but very mild symptoms so far. Getting a Tesco delivery tomorrow, the last one available for weeks. We’ll starve long before the virus gets us 🙂

  23. Good for her.

    When was it detected?

  24. Glad to hear she’s good now.

  25. She felt the first symptoms the day after they came back from Lanzarote and it lasted about eight days. The middle few days were the worst, but she was able to get up each day.

  26. First detected in March sometime or February?

  27. They got home on 1 March. Their hotel was full of Spanish people so it’s not a mystery where it came from. The Canaries and Spain closed down on the day they came home, but it now looks like the virus was around for weeks before that. Spain has now overtaken China in the number of deaths, assuming China’s figures are accurate:

    “Spain’s death toll from the coronavirus has surpassed the official figure from China, becoming the second highest in the world. The number of deaths rose by 738 in 24 hours – a daily record – to 3,434, higher than the 683 announced in Italy. By comparison, China has officially reported 3,285 deaths, while Italy – the worst affected country – has 6,820. Spain’s rate of infection has increased by a fifth and almost 27,000 people are being treated in hospital.”

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-52036836

  28. Thanks Pete

  29. “It’s the kind of event which causes lives to change off the back of it.”

    Well, yes. A quarter of the world have just been sent on what I think the religious would call a retreat. Some will have had epiphanies. Some will have realised that they are only a payday away from the streets. Others will have realised that if they don’t go to work every day the sky doesn’t fall, that they could live quite happily on half their current salary, or much less.

    Many will have become aware of their own mortality and the ultimate fragility of, well, *gestures to everything*.

    Some will have realised that no job really matters, not even that of a “key worker”, nor that of a shelf stackers or an NHS hero, if you’re on a ventilator drowning in your own lungs(*).

    Anyway this volunteer thing looks interesting, will look into that. I have a car and a DBS certificate somewhere about the place.

    (*) I’m also available for parties when all this blows over.

  30. I hope they’re cheaper than a Dyson vacuum cleaner though, or the economy will never recover.

    I think the backlash against globalisation will hit Dyson as well as others like him. People could maybe accept that the manufacturing is now all abroad (to be fair most of the R&D is still in Britain, at least for now) but the shameless personal tax-dodging is harder to accept. The man earns tens of millions a year but chooses to pay no UK tax. That’s not a good look in 2020, if it ever was before.

    Well said Peter and Pete.
    I’m not a fan of Dyson at all. On top of what you said about him Peter, His vacuum cleaners at over priced s*** and most of his ‘inventions’ have been pretty crap.
    More of a case of form over function. Ball wheelbarrows and Ball vacuum cleaners, what a load of bollocks.

  31. Phantom,

    A big tip of the hat to those volunteers

    You hear about the few bad guys who cough on people or slash tires, and tend not to take proper notice of the many who do good things, usually with no notice at all ( looking after elderly in their own towns, etc )

    I absolutely agree Phantom. I think the young get a lot of bad press in the media, but young people do a lot of good things as well, which is largely overlooked.
    Where I live young people regularly take part in litter patrol’s. And at the moment they are helping old people with their shopping by getting food for them and delivering it to their homes.

  32. There have been a few malicious idiots in the US who don’t appear that young.

  33. Peter glad your daughter is well praying for you and the mrs

  34. Thanks Patrick

  35. Yes, touching wood for Peter and Dave.

  36. Hi Peter

    I’m hoping the maxim that most people have mild symptoms and then recover with immunity applies to you and your family

    Take care, Colm

  37. Indeed Peter

    Blessings for your family all the way from west Texas.

  38. Here’s to a speedy, full recovery Peter.

  39. But generally the “Change that’s gonna come” has already arrived in political discourse.

    Those who used to – at the very least – pour scorn on Big Government and its efforts and on Deep State and his Nanny are now calling for government to take orwellian control of vast areas of social life and transport and other fields.
    When actually a disaster like this should have been the perfect opportunity to show how the free market can deal with everything better than any govt.

    Meanwhile, those who were predicting an impending humanitarian catastrophe on the island of Lesbos, the Turkish-Greek border and practically all of Africa are now silent. The message of universal humanity seems to have been demoted behind the vital interests of self and family.

    And what about Brexit? Is it still vital that the July red line are met and that Britain leaves at all cost at the end of the year?

    (mind you, I recently looked at the Daily Mail on one of Harri’s links. There were about 20 articles about how things are collapsing in various EU countries. Not one about any breakdown in the UK.)

    I’m sure there have been other major shifts.

  40. Cheers Noel.

    But to be honest I’m not even sure I’ve got it. I just seem to have a persistent cough and croaky voice.

  41. Hi Dave

    I missed that. I hope you are Ok. Hopefully it just the stress of the situation that is prompting your cough. Think all of us are having strains put on our bodies at this time.

    Take care
    Colm

  42. Those who used to – at the very least – pour scorn on Big Government and its efforts and on Deep State and his Nanny are now calling for government to take orwellian control of vast areas of social life and transport and other fields

    Yes Noel, the harsh realities of life triumph over the luxury of theroretical positions. It’s blatantly obvious that the state and governments are the only organs which have the capacity to come anywhere close to addressing such crises.

    Regarding the Lesbos / Turkish border situation, I’m sure they’re still continuing but have been pushed off the pages by the number one story on the globe.

    Dave, get well soon, (you old hypochondriac, you 🙂 ).

  43. Well, it certainly seems that some governments are opportunistically using this to bring about change, and not in a good way either:

    Hungary’s nationalist government submitted a draft law to parliament Friday (20 March) that would enable it to rule by decree for an unlimited period of time, citing the corona emergency.

    The special powers would make it possible for prime minister Viktor Orban’s government to “suspend the application of certain laws, derogate from legal provisions, and take extraordinary measures in the interest of guaranteeing the stabilisation of the lives, health, personal and material security of citizens, as well as the economy,” the bill submitted said.

    Under an extended and indefinite state of emergency, anyone who publicises false or distorted facts that interfere with the “successful defence” of public health, or can create “confusion or unrest” related to the outbreak, can be punished by up to five years, or three years, in prison

    https://euobserver.com/coronavirus/147834

  44. hope you be ok Dave , no fever it seems thats a good sign , as the fever would mean the immunue system is kicking in to fight, and you don’t have that 🙂

    in happier news today :

    one for pat and charles especially

    Happy birthday to acting President Nancy Pelosi!

    ( ducks )

  45. I would say Governor Cuomo is more the acting President at the moment.

  46. It’s blatantly obvious that the state and governments are the only organs which have the capacity to come anywhere close to addressing such crises.

    Everything – everything – that the state deploys is the fruit of capitalism and markets.

    The state created this disaster. It is capitalism and markets alone which can save us from it.

  47. “The state created this disaster.” – what does that mean ?

  48. Everything – everything – that the state deploys is the fruit of capitalism and markets

    Perhaps Pete but the source of production is one thing while the organising of the product is a different beast entirely.

    The state created this disaster. It is capitalism and markets alone which can save us from it

    An incredibly ridiculous comment.

  49. Chinese duplicity and socialist health care rationing is a lethal combination.

  50. The NHS spends £1billion every 2.5days. Three months after the Chinese Disease emerged it still can’t get basic PPE to its staff.

    When the NHS finally has all the PPE and ventilators it needs, it will be because the private sector rescued it.

  51. As are wet markets

    Capitalism and markets, (literally), at their very base.

  52. It will be because the private sector rescued it

    It will be because the means of production has met the quantity of demand. Take the state out of the equation above and lets see how many deaths there are.

  53. Pete, It’s reported that medical staff in NYC are wearing inverted trash bags for PPE.

    When I went to give blood samples the other day, the staff had full PPE, gowns, masks, gloves, and even plastic face guards. Felt a little creepy.

  54. Pete, It’s reported that medical staff in NYC are wearing inverted trash bags for PPE.

    When I went to give blood samples the other day, the staff had full PPE, gowns, masks, gloves, and even plastic face guards. Felt a little creepy.

  55. Oh stop

    You’ve never said which country’s system that you approve of.

    It’s always pie in the sky bye and bye until you die

  56. some medical staff

    There will be more of that

    The US medical system is not prepared for this

  57. This Coronavirus crisis is a perfect example of where the power of the state and the resources of the market can combine to best effect. It isn’t one or the other.

  58. Kurt

    I wish Nancy Pelosi well. Well away from Washington that is!

    BTW, how’s your Pa doing?

  59. Colm, all successful economies agree.

    I wish Nancy Pelosi well. Well away from Washington that is!

    HAHAHAHA Very good Charles.

  60. It is never one or the other in any good country that anyone can name today

    Any country without big doses of either is a country that no one would ever want to live in

  61. hi charles well to us she is the Queen of the Prom
    we’re gonna have a lot of babies named nanci in 9 months 🙂
    Pa is in recovery, without the wine .. its time to quit
    his body/mind can’t take it like he used to
    no bad news , thanks fer asking 🙂

  62. I’ve just read that plod have been given the power to break up groups.

    With a bit of luck they’ll begin with Coldplay.

  63. reminds me of the joke two pastors

    one says to the other

    I think i might have a word for you, god is asking me to sing over you !

    2nd pastor : sing “on-a-hill-far-away”

    1st pastor : I’m not sure i know how that one goes

    2nd pastor: No, sing on a Hill …. far away

  64. Excuse me?

    I just don’t get it?

    My wife has received a notification, she is now designated as a “key worker”, and rightly so, she is a nurse.

    I have just received a notification from our head of Human Resources, I too am now a designated “key worker”?

    I have a letter to print off to prove it to anyone who asks me “for my papers”, well now I can show them.

    Listen, I work for a private German company, in private labs.

    I do have the ability to counter sign off colleagues, friends, and family passport applications with no bother.

    But am i a “key worker”

    I wouldn’t have thought so.

    Maybe it’s anyone with engineering status?

    Just how bad is this Chinese virus, which started in China, by the Chinese?

  65. With a bit of luck they’ll begin with Coldplay.

    😀

  66. Pete, It’s reported that medical staff in NYC are wearing inverted trash bags for PPE.

    They’ll find a way to blame the President, be in no doubt. Anything which goes wrong in a super rich Democrat city will be Trump’s fault.

  67. Take the state out of the equation above and lets see how many deaths there are.

    None.

    A private property society wouldn’t allow the Chinese Disease to come in. How do I know? How many Covid 19 sufferers have you allowed into your home? Exactly.

    Meanwhile, the British government still allows multiple flights each week from Italy, China and Iran.

  68. Difficult I know but an even more ridiculous comment that the last one.

    How do I know? My home doesn’t export and import internationally. Exactly.

  69. Of course your home imports and exports internationally. Equating your home to your home nation, you export your labour everyday. This is your national income. Everything you buy is an import.

  70. Ridiculous comparison as well as comment. I go to my place of work everyday, I don’t go to a dozen places of work filled with millions of people and those dozen places of work filled with millions of people don’t come to my home.

    Pete’s arguing that the state should interfere in the market? Wow, this virus really has changed things.

  71. He is all over the place

  72. Just taken part in the mass clap for careers event. It’s amazing. I wasn’t sure how much it would be heard, but stepping outside my flat I could hear hundreds of cheers and claps in all directions. It was fantastic.

  73. Colm.

    I am a designated “key worker”

    I do hope you’re clapping included me?

  74. Harri

    I will give you the clap if you really want it 😉

  75. Ouch

  76. Colm.

    You will give anyone the clap if they want.

    Now look I’m not that fussy, but even I have my limits.

    No offence Colm.

    😀

  77. Colm is the funniest person on atw and I think he’s adorable.

  78. Phantom.

    No “ouch” involved.

    It’s called, having an actual sense of humour, something which I’m certain you will never be able to understand.

    😏

  79. Thanks Daphne

    We all have a sense of humour Harri and we need it at a time like this 😉

  80. Colm.

    Try telling that to Phantom.

    I can feel his social interaction inadequate inefficiency from here, five thousand miles away.

    Phantom.

    No worries, if you ever need to talk above and beyond, the ATW family are always here for a shoulder to unload your burden.

    Ouch!

  81. Colm, on March 26th, 2020 at 9:11 PM Said:
    Thanks Daphne
    We all have a sense of humour Harri and we need it at a time like this 😉

    Colm. Precisely my friend.

    Keep calm, and carry on, unless you have a serious case of illness like TDS, then nothing else matters, not humour, not Chinese virus, started in China, by the Chinese, in China, Nothing in fact, just hate Trump, and dream about Trump being everyone else’s President, other than actual Americans.

    TDS, really is an incurable mental illness.

  82. Colm clapping into the night for an army of Gender-Fluid Outreach Workers.

  83. Pete.

    I really don’t think Colm is that fussy..

    😏

  84. Pete

    Don’t forget the Inreach workers. Let’s not be exclusionary now !

  85. Colm, Inreach?

    Or reach around?

    😀

  86. You dirty old man Harri 😉

  87. Thanks for the good wishes guys. I have spent most of the day in bed, slept for hours and took a paracetamol for the first time since forever. I would describe the symptoms as like a bad flu and my daughter has warned me to expect the next three days to be the worst, based on her experience last week. So I’ll see how I’m feeling in the morning.

    The missus is fine today, but trying to keep a healthy distance from me.

  88. Good man

  89. Hang in there Peter, get your rest if you want to add a little nonprescription to your regiment vitamin D & C, but listen to your doctor and drink juice.

  90. Thanks Patrick

    I have been taking a daily calcium and D2 supplement for about 20 years. It’s my only medication apart from a small aspirin. Most days I drink two home-made smoothies, a multi-fruit one at breakfast and a green one in the afternoon.

  91. I live off of a majority juice regiment for sustenance and health reasons, when your immune system is shot your blender/juice machine becomes your best friend.

    But god I still love meat…. burnt steak, fried chicken, liver, burgers and BACON!

  92. Were all thinking of you Peter. Let’s hope you are over the worst of it and return fighting fit very soon.

  93. A change is gonna come.. but not for the Chinese apparently, it’s barbaric business in wet markets as usual.

    EVEN for a carnivore like me, the images are gruesome and disgusting enough to consider whether I’ll eat meat again.

    A smorgasbord of dogs being boiled alive, bats served on sticks like lollipops, kittens slaughtered, rats fried and giant snakes carved up for human consumption, with the blood splattering everywhere.

    https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/11264885/china-wet-markets-coronavirus-world-knees/

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