web analytics

?????? lol and the info changes again…..

By Patrick Van Roy On May 21st, 2020

28 Responses to “?????? lol and the info changes again…..”

  1. Animals are definitely a source of the killer virus, and so too is fruit. Be afraid, BE VERY AFRAID!!!!

    https://globalnews.ca/news/6910821/coronavirus-papaya-goat-tanzania/

    Tanzania seems to be having a problem with its animals, its coronavirus testing or its leadership amid a bizarre scandal playing out in the African nation.

    President John Magufuli has cast doubt on the country’s coronavirus testing process after he allegedly submitted secret samples from invalid subjects, including a goat and a papaya (yes, the fruit), that came back as “positive” for the virus.

    Magufuli suspended the head of testing at Tanzania’s national health laboratory in response to the alleged errors on Monday, one day after revealing that he had flooded the lab with a variety of samples from things the virus shouldn’t be able to infect.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=1&v=p8dp_ixoblQ&feature=emb_logo

    Tanzanian President John Magufuli Tests Papaya for Corona – COMES BACK POSITIVE! CoronaVirus Covid19

    So there it is – proof that fruit and animals transmit the dreaded killer virus. Indeed, the virus is so deadly that 98-year-olds are dropping like flies

    https://realclimatescience.com/2020/05/all-uk-deaths-now-due-to-covid-19/

  2. Patrick,

    Are you suggesting that scientists shouldn’t update advice and guidance if new or more conclusive information comes to light?

  3. The Monday morning quarterbacks have all the answers after the game has been played.

    What brilliant minds they are

  4. Seamus, on May 21st, 2020 at 3:18 PM Said:

    Patrick,

    Are you suggesting that scientists shouldn’t update advice and guidance if new or more conclusive information comes to light?

    Seamus – are you suggesting that the lockdown should be lifted if new or more conclusive information comes to light? For example……..

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8327641/Coronavirus-modelling-Professor-Neil-Ferguson-branded-mess-experts.html

    Scientists have levelled a flurry of criticism against Professor Neil Ferguson’s modelling which warned 500,000 people could die from coronavirus and prompted Britain to go into lockdown.

    Modelling from Imperial College London epidemiologist Professor Ferguson, who stepped down from the government’s Sage group at the start of May, has been described as ‘totally unreliable’ by other experts.

  5. No Seamus I’m not to quote a friend from NYC

    We did what we were asked. We flattened the curve. There is no longer any reasonable justification for the govt to deprive us of our livelihoods. Our rights aren’t the government’s to grant or take away. They belong to us the free grant of nature & the God of nature.

    The post is just a reminder that static decisions do not work nor should they be applied…..

  6. I reckon that the ‘vaccine’ is good-to-go right now, especially if it takes out the stupidest 20%…..

    https://www.sott.net/article/434763-Disaster-20-of-Modernas-human-test-subjects-sustained-severe-injuries-from-Gates-Fauci-coronavirus-vaccine

    Despite Moderna’s cheery press release this morning, the clinical trial results for its groundbreaking COVID vaccine could not be much worse.

    The vaccine, developed and championed by Anthony Fauci and financed by Bill Gates,used an experimental MRNA technology that the two men hoped would allow rapid deployment to meet President Trump’s ambitions “warp speed” time line.

    Dr. Fauci was so confident of his shot’s safety that he waved ferret and primate studies ( Moderna suspiciously reported no health data from its mouse studies). That appears to have been a mistake.

    Three of the 15 human guinea pigs in the high dose cohort (250 mcg) suffered a “serious adverse event” within 43 days of receiving Moderna’s jab.

    Moderna did not release its clinical trial study or raw data,but its press release,which was freighted with inconsistencies acknowledged that three volunteers developed Grade 3 systemic events defined by the FDA as “Preventing daily activity and requiring medical intervention. ”

    Moderna allowed only exceptionally healthy volunteers to participate in the study. A vaccine with those reaction rates could cause grave injuries in 1.5 billion humans if administered to “every person on earth”.

    That is the threshold that Gates has established for ending the global lockdown.

  7. I must say I was always suspicious of the claims that you could get the virus by touching surfaces. If that was the case surely we would have all had it by now !

  8. I must say I was always suspicious of the claims that you could get the virus by touching surfaces. If that was the case surely we would have all had it by now !

  9. This is good news for everybody.

    But no, let’s complain instead that the information on the new virus wasn’t perfect the first day.

    It’s fun to complain all the time.

  10. It’s fun to complain all the time.

    Orange man….bad.

    😉

  11. “Seamus – are you suggesting that the lockdown should be lifted if new or more conclusive information comes to light?”

    Yes. Is anyone suggesting it shouldn’t be?

    “We did what we were asked.”

    And forgive me for not taking advice from the very people who tried to prevent us from doing that in the first place. You were wrong then, safe bet is that you are wrong now.

  12. Colm contact by touch is the natural way that all viruses, germs, bacteria are spread. Some die instantly exposed on surfaces while others can last months even years.

    They have no idea with this one simply because we have no data. The lockdown has actually prevented those numbers from both accumulating and being monitored.

    A note of historical curiosity…. If Nostradamus never wrote his prophecies he would still hold a place in history. He would noted for helping break the plague of the Black Death ny pushing and convincing medical practitioners of the time that they must wash their HANDS after touching each patient.

  13. And forgive me for not taking advice from the very people who tried to prevent us from doing that in the first place. You were wrong then, safe bet is that you are wrong now.

    Bullshit and bullshit with example….

    NYC followed every measure stricter than any other area in the US.

    NYC has the HIGHEST Death and Contagion rate of the entire country…… They followed the advice and it killed them……

    That’s what the cold numbers tell you.

  14. If that was the case surely we would have all had it by now !

    Colm – millions have already had the deadly killer virus, and it kills so quietly and quickly that the asymptomatic victims shall have it for the rest of their lives

    https://www.bmj.com/content/369/bmj.m1375

    New evidence has emerged from China indicating that the large majority of coronavirus infections do not result in symptoms.

    Chinese authorities began publishing daily figures on 1 April on the number of new coronavirus cases that are asymptomatic, with the first day’s figures suggesting that around four in five coronavirus infections caused no illness. Many experts believe that unnoticed, asymptomatic cases of coronavirus infection could be an important source of contagion.

    A total of 130 of 166 new infections (78%) identified in the 24 hours to the afternoon of Wednesday 1 April were asymptomatic, said China’s National Health Commission. And most of the 36 cases in which patients showed symptoms involved arrivals from overseas, down from 48 the previous day, the commission said.

    OK – that’s China so these numbers need corroborating, and the corroboration happens to come in from Iceland……

    https://www.zmescience.com/medicine/iceland-testing-covid-19-0523/

    Not all the results from Iceland’s tests have come through yet, but the ones that have, show that half of all cases are asymptomatic (at the time of testing).

    This would suggest that, on one hand, the virus is not as dangerous as we thought, but on the other hand, it would also suggest that it has spread far more than we are currently aware of.

    These results are also indicated by a testing survey carried on an entire Italian town of Vo (population 3,300), where the results showed that more than 50% of all cases are asymptomatic.

    It must be absolutely devastating to learn that one has the deadly killer virus, asymptomaitically, for the rest of one’s life – just dreadful

  15. Seamus, on May 21st, 2020 at 3:41 PM Said:

    “Seamus – are you suggesting that the lockdown should be lifted if new or more conclusive information comes to light?”

    Yes. Is anyone suggesting it shouldn’t be?

    Well, clearly you’re not – so, on the basis of the shit-modelling on which the lockdown was ordered and the demonstrable fabrication of mortality statistics, let’s all just ignore the lockdown. I certainly do.

  16. PVR

    Wrong again, Mr. Mendoza.

    California was earlier and stricter than NYC.

    And…

    NYC actually does not have the highest infection rate. The NY metro suburban counties of Nassau, Suffolk, Westchester have higher infection rates than NYC. And Rockland County NY is higher than all of those other counties.

  17. “That’s what the cold numbers tell you.”

    No it is what numbers tell you because you have made up your mind. You form a conclusion then look for evidence.

    There are many reasons for New York’s higher death count, not least including its population density. The most density populated areas of the US are in the greater New York area, primarily New York City but also parts of New Jersey. And those are the areas being hit the hardest. A pattern seen all over Europe as well.

    It’s commuter behaviour also increases chances of infection, as most people travel by subway instead of by car. It is also an international hub, with lots of travel to and from NYC from all over the world. For example it is estimated that at least 100 people brought the infection to NYC, compared to only 8 people bringing it to California.

    And for what it is worth both Governor Cuomo and Bill de Blasio were slow to respond to the crisis, especially compared to California. Not as slow or counter productive as The Donald (peace be upon him) but still not ideal.

  18. “Well, clearly you’re not – so, on the basis of the shit-modelling on which the lockdown was ordered and the demonstrable fabrication of mortality statistics, let’s all just ignore the lockdown. I certainly do.”

    The entirety of Europe went on lockdown. They aren’t getting their advice from one guy in London. So the idea that one guy, who the UK government relied on, got it wrong doesn’t undermine the science of the lockdown.

  19. NYC is not in the top ten infection rate counties in the US

    https://www.statista.com/statistics/1109053/coronavirus-covid19-cases-rates-us-americans-most-impacted-counties/

    The most infected three counties are in Trumper states.

    A little research, please.

  20. Looking at county level data may not be particularly productive. Small units can often have huge ratios simply because of their small size.

    So the most badly impacted country on the planet is San Marino They have 1,209 deaths per 1M people. Which sounds awful. But they actually only have 41 deaths.

  21. As far as I can see the CDC has not engaged in fearmongering, but rather with cautious recommendations in a good faith attempt to save lives. It is totally within reason to adapt to developments.
    Think of it this way, DAY was a success. But loads of mishaps occuredduring it.

  22. The entirety of Europe went on lockdown. They aren’t getting their advice from one guy in London. So the idea that one guy, who the UK government relied on, got it wrong doesn’t undermine the science of the lockdown.

    OK – so what is the ‘science’ of the lockdown? It is now confirmed that the deadly killer virus affects fruit and animals so its transmissibility is dreadful. It also means that tens or hundreds of millions of people are carrying this deadly killer virus – and they don’t even know it!! It’s a terrible dilemma

  23. It is interesting .

    The NYC suburbs have higher infection rate than NYC does. A lot of people nationally don’t know that.

    And within the five boroughs, Manhattan has the lowest infection rate. Brooklyn is the second lowest.

    ( Mostly black and latin and many poor ) Bronx has the highest rate, but mostly white and suburban and middle class Staten Island is very high also.

    https://www.statista.com/statistics/1109053/coronavirus-covid19-cases-rates-us-americans-most-impacted-counties/

  24. https://www.statista.com/statistics/1109817/coronavirus-cases-rates-by-borough-new-york-city/

  25. Hubei province went into lockdown and it appears to have worked

  26. Good news indeed. I had been very cautious about surfaces. Glad I can relax a bit on that score.

  27. It doesn’t take a genius to figure out that lockdown works. If everybody stays away from everybody else, the virus cannot spread. Unless you think it spreads by magic.

  28. If everybody stays away from everybody else, every year, no virus can spread.

    Innit?