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Q: HOW DOES THE NHS TRACING APP WORK?

By Pete Moore On May 21st, 2020

A: It doesn’t.

Germany, Taiwan and South Korea have working contact tracing apps. Google and Apple have working contact tracing apps. Jeez, that’s the point of mobile phones. Instead of using something which works the NHS decided it could write and launch its own app, ready to roll in mid-May. It turns out that the NHS can’t write apps, so it’s delayed yet again. Who could have predicted that?

Everything the public sector has done in these Wuhan days has been a failure – everything, without fail.

This is just the public sector at work, nothing unusual. What the Yellow Peril has done is expose how unfit for purpose the public sector is. The public sector usually keeps its never-ending failures secret, away from scrutiny.

But the Chinese Disease has seen the overpaid, wealth-leeching bureaucracy tested in the open and under intense gaze. So they have nowhere to hide and we can see their serial failures each and every day.

24 Responses to “Q: HOW DOES THE NHS TRACING APP WORK?”

  1. But the Chinese Disease has seen the overpaid, wealth-leeching bureaucracy tested in the open and under intense gaze. So they have nowhere to hide and we can see their serial failures each and every day.

    But, but, but, the NHS is just so underfunded?

  2. “It turns out that the NHS can’t write apps”

    Whoever is writing the app is not the NHS, and pretty competent as it goes. But it’s odd that they haven’t supported the apple/google solution as well.

    Even odder is that apple just released the phone software update needed for this yesterday and they (UK authorities) don’t even seem to have got their application to use it in yet. Other countries and US states, have.

  3. Unless there’s a really good reason to develop something new, you take the good option that’s available right now.

    And that goes double in a situation like this.

  4. These other countries have apps that work in their countries, presumably. That doesn’t mean they scale up to the whole world, to name just one problem that there might be.

    Also google and apple don’t have any working contact tracing apps. They have provided some Lego blocks you could make one out of. In the case of Apple at least, that literally did not exist as a thing to really use until yesterday – and not all phones will have the update yet.

  5. Q: HOW DOES THE NHS TRACING APP WORK?

    I suggest you start with this book Pete.

    https://www.amazon.co.uk/C-Programming-Language-Bjarne-Stroustrup/dp/0321958322

  6. Dave – has Professor Neil Ferguson read that book? Here’s one that he could have used:

    https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B0891W9HGV

    This book shows an insight on one of the very important activities in Software project management – Reviews…. A process of reviewing the documents, to provide a better quality product to the end-user, is a necessity in today’s competitive world.

    But, unfortunately……

    https://twitter.com/neil_ferguson/status/1241835454707699713

    neil_ferguson
    @neil_ferguson
    ·
    22 Mar
    I’m conscious that lots of people would like to see and run the pandemic simulation code we are using to model control measures against COVID-19. To explain the background – I wrote the code (thousands of lines of undocumented C) 13+ years ago to model flu pandemics…

    “Undocumented”

  7. A virtual acquaintance of mine from the neighborhood, The gifted photographer Kenny Hamilton, has died of the coronavirus.

    Maybe 40 years old, apparently in good health before.

    Yes, let the barstool epidemiologists And politicians keep telling you that this is no big deal, that is just the flu

    This bad attitude will get you here killed,

  8. Allan.

    I wish it wasn’t true but I’m afraid this undocumented software is far more common than documented software. When I was modifying supporting existing code, more than half my time was spent working out what the code actually did.

    I wouldn’t mind looking at Neil’s code if it’s ever released. The code snippet written in C, was very basic.

    // Thx++ for all you good wishes.//

    A little programmer joke there from Neil on his Twitter.

  9. A simple test.

    Has Neil Ferguson, or his non-peer review model ever been right? About anything, at anytime?

    Or even close.

  10. Harri, on May 22nd, 2020 at 7:15 PM Said:

    A simple test.

    Has Neil Ferguson, or his non-peer review model ever been right? About anything, at anytime?

    Or even close.

    I’ll answer that – it’s ‘no’. And this is the basis of the lockdown, still on-going

    Dave – do you recall the Y2K scam that IT professionals got rich on? I’m in the office with our IT guru after he’d explained to one of the managers how dangerous it could be so I said to him – take one of the PCs and re-set its clock to 11.59pm of 31.12.1999 and then watch what happens. He looked at me aghast, then said words to the effect that “it’s not that easy”. I said “why not?” and he sauntered off. It really was that easy.

  11. Phantom – people die of flu. Sorry that it had to be to tell you, but here’s a link for you to check for yourself:

    https://www.health.com/condition/cold-flu-sinus/how-many-people-die-of-the-flu-every-year

    Not that you ought to take influenza lightly. Flu season in the US, which runs from October through May, claims tens of thousands of lives every year. This season CDC estimates that, as of mid-March, between 29,000 and 59,000 have died due to influenza illnesses. Add to that the misery of hundreds of thousands of flu-related hospitalizations and millions of medical visits for flu symptoms this season.

  12. from your own article

    During a March 11 hearing of the House Oversight and Reform Committee on coronavirus preparedness, Anthony Fauci, MD, director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Disease, put it plainly: “The seasonal flu that we deal with every year has a mortality of 0.1%,” he told the congressional panel, whereas coronavirus is “10 times more lethal than the seasonal flu,” per STAT news.

  13. Allan

    //Dave – do you recall the Y2K scam that IT professionals got rich on? //

    You know what Allan, I was having a really good day today until you brought that up. Do I remember Y2K! I wish I’d had the balls to leave my permanent job and go contracting. I have made an absolute f****** fortune, like many of my contractor friends did. it was a total scam, perpetuated as usual, by scaremongering media. I repeatedly he kept telling people at the time that it was nothing to worry about, but did they f****** believe me? No.

  14. Phantom – the mortality rate of Covid-19 is less than that of seasonal flu, and people die of seasonal flu. Besides, Fauci is a liar and totally corrupted. His own medical paper reveals his mendacity:

    Dr Fauci, New England Journal of Medicine, on March 26th said

    This suggests that the overall clinical consequences of Covid-19 may ultimately be more akin to those of a severe seasonal influenza (which has a case fatality rate of approximately 0.1%)

  15. Dave – I haven’t had the good fortune to have a similar ‘windfall’ placed before me but you should have taken the money. I don’t think that there’s another one like that for a few hundred years

  16. But for the vaccine-sector, it’s now going to be every year…..

    https://www.globalresearch.ca/the-h1n1-swine-flu-pandemic-manipulating-the-data-to-justify-a-worldwide-public-health-emergency/14901

    Millions of doses of swine flu vaccine had been ordered by national governments from Big Pharma. Millions of vaccine doses were subsequently destroyed: a financial bonanza for Big Pharma, an expenditure crisis for national governments.

    There was no investigation into who was behind this multibillion fraud.

    https://www.forbes.com/2010/02/05/world-health-organization-swine-flu-pandemic-opinions-contributors-michael-fumento.html#6c2e0ffe48e8

    The Parliamentary Assembly of the Council of Europe (PACE), a human rights watchdog, is publicly investigating the WHO’s motives in declaring a pandemic. Indeed, the chairman of its influential health committee, epidemiologist Wolfgang Wodarg, has declared that the “false pandemic” is “one of the greatest medicine scandals of the century.”

    Even within the agency, the director of the WHO Collaborating Center for Epidemiology in Munster, Germany, Dr. Ulrich Kiel, has essentially labeled the pandemic a hoax. “We are witnessing a gigantic misallocation of resources [$18 billion so far] in terms of public health,” he said.

  17. Global research is a bullshit conspiracy site for dopes.

  18. Phantom – is it true that “millions of doses of swine flu vaccine had been ordered by national governments from Big Pharma. Millions of vaccine doses were subsequently destroyed: a financial bonanza for Big Pharma, an expenditure crisis for national governments.”?

    Here’s Professor Dolores Cahill

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U9ti6isM-NY

    Masks are discussed at 3.40 (no need for masks nor social-distancing); 8.00 (“it’s flu”); hydroxychloroquine is mentioned at 8.24 (Trump’s correct): 8.45 – politicians and scientists should be held legally accountable for deaths caused by the lockdown

    Prof. Dolores J. Cahill, Professor of Translational Science at UCD School of Medicine, University College Dublin
    Prof. Dr Dolores Cahill has over 25 years expertise in high-throughput protein array, antibody array, proteomics technology development,automation and their biomedical applications, including in biomarker discovery, diagnostics and personalised medicine. She is Professor of Translational Science, School of Medicine and at the Conway Institute at the University College Dublin (UCD) (2005-present). With her research group & collaborators, she has achieved key breakthroughs in developing and demonstrating applications of high throughput array technology in biological, diagnostics & medical research. Prof. Cahill pioneered this research at the Max-Planck-Institute of Molecular Genetics in Berlin, Germany (1996-2003) and holds several granted international patents in this vital field. Some of her activities include:
    In 1996, she co-founded Protagen AG (https://protagen.com/) in Dortmund, including with Prof. Helmut Meyer, as a spin-out of the Max-Planck-Institute to commercialise her discoveries. Protagen Protein Services (https://protagenproteinservices.com/) a 2014 spin-off company of Protagen delivers expert protein, antibody, proteomics & peptide contract services to the pharmaceutical industry & health care sectors. Both companies have advanced these technologies & applications; Protagen has screened and profiled the autoantibody repertoire of over 20,000 patients (https://protagen.com/data-and-insight…). Protagen AG and Protagen Protein Services have over 200 employees in 2018. Since 2016, Prof. Cahill is a shareholder & Advisory Board member of Atturos Ltd, Prof. Stephen Pennington’s UCD spin-out company nvolved in improved Prostate Cancer diagnosis (http://atturos.com/ and http://atturos.com/company/advisors/).
    She received her Honours degree in Molecular Genetics from Trinity College Dublin (1989) and her PhD in Immunology from Dublin City University (1994). While studying in Trinity, she was awarded the Irish American Fellowship Prize (1988) to research at Prof. Pringle’s laboratory in the University of Michigan, Ann Arbor, USA. During her undergraduate & PhD studies, she worked, including as Assistant Manager, in fine-dining Country Clubs in Long Island, New York (4 summers) & in Tenafly, New Jersey (4 summers). On obtaining her PhD, she obtained an EU ‘Human Capital & Mobility’ Post-doctoral Fellowship at the Technical University, Munich, Germany (1994-1995). Prof. Cahill became Group Leader of the Protein Technology Group in the Max-Planck-Institute of Molecular Genetics, Berlin (1996-2003). She obtained an Associate Professor position, in the Department of Clinical Pharmacology and Director of Proteomics Core, RCSI, Dublin (2000-2005). Since 2005 – present, she is Full Professor of Translational Science in the School of Medicine, University College Dublin and she has extensive management experience, including successfully obtaining funding from the European Commission (FP4, FP5, FP6, FP7 and Horizon 2020), Science Foundation Ireland, Enterprise Ireland, Health Research Board & successfully writing, project managing, publishing & reporting on all financial & regulatory aspects in academic & private sectors, in the companies she co-founded.
    She has over 100 peer reviewed publications, with over 5000 citations and a H-index is 31, which is in the top 10% globally for the Biomedicine discipline. Prof. Cahill is internationally recognised for her biomedical research, publications and patent record in life sciences, biotechnology, personalised healthcare, personalised medicine, diagnostics, biomarker discovery and validation, proteomics, biotechnology, high content protein and antibody arrays and their biomedical, diagnostic and clinical applications. Her publications have demonstrated utility and applications in the research, commercial & clinical sectors and include characterisation of antibodies specificity (including therapeutic antibodies), biomarker discovery, diagnostics, assay development, protein-interaction studies, proteomics, large scale/systems biology research, validating biomarker panels in diagnostic clinical trial, personalised medicine and assessing immune related adverse events.
    She has given over 100 Keynotes Lectures in Ireland, UK, Europe, USA, China, Japan, South Korea, Australia, South America. For example, she is invited to the ‘5th Precision Medicine and Biomarkers Leaders’ Summit’ in Munich in September 2018 & will Chair a Roundtable on Personalised Medicine and Adverse Events to discuss whether lessons can be learned from cancer immunotherapy and immune related adverse events to provide insight into understanding adverse events and personalised medicine and finding adverse event predictive biomarkers

    Phantom says – just another conspiracy theorist

    HA HA HA

  19. I asked you before – are you against all advances in medical science, or only those in the vaccine and drugs sector?

    You don’t seem to be in favor of anything, though you are against very many things.

  20. 15.49 – hydroxtchloroquine used for over 60 years, used against arthritis, 68,000 elderly people used hydroxychloroquine with 4 having adverse reaction

  21. 24.00 lawyers and scientists mobilising to hold politicians to account, to name the sources of the lockdown advice and to pursue for crimes against humanity.

  22. Ah, Allan promoting quack meds just like his president.

  23. Phantom – there is a vaccine being accelerated by your billionaires. I want you to be
    the first at ATW to take it, and you can take mine too 🙂

    28.33 vaccine would cause hundreds of thousands of deaths

  24. 35.29 immunologists must speak up against a corona-vaccine

    Phantom – take that vaccine!!