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THE MASKED “LEADER”

By David Vance On May 26th, 2020

Just. Sheer. Cringe.

94 Responses to “THE MASKED “LEADER””

  1. Whereas the daring Donald wouldn’t need to take such precautions as nobody would want to get near him anyway.

  2. I also happen to believe wearing a mask outdoors is not really necessary but its hardly cringeworthy. Its just a choice. However I am confident that if Trump had chosen to wear a mask outside David would have equally replied with the same post and the same 3 words.

  3. He’s setting a proper example.

  4. //I also happen to believe wearing a mask outdoors is not really necessary//

    I don’t know what the occasion was, but they were most likely not going to be alone the whole time, but would meet and talk to people. Of course the mask was necessary.

    I think the point someone is trying to make here is that it was a funeral and that the masks were black.

    If they were coloured, that someone would have another point to make.

  5. The Trump Re-election Committee and its members here Have the nonsense machine well oiled and in gear and you’ll hear a lot more of this kind of thing between now and Election Day

    The narrative includes the points that

    The coronavirus is no big deal

    And

    That real men don’t wear masks against it

    This is part of a larger anti-science narrative

    There Nothing that is genuinely conservative about any of this

  6. The only reason David posted this to be honest is because it involves the one person who now stands to possibly take the Presidency away from Trump and he must be smeared and mocked regardless of what he does from now until November. And yes I know the same thing will happen with the anti-Trump brigade. Its going to be a long repetetive and full of fake outrage, ride.

  7. Yes Colm and the UK is no better.

    Everyone defending Cummings would be baying for blood if Labour had won the election, Corbyn was PM in this crisis, & Seamus Milne had been caught breaking the lockdown.
    UK politics is now as tribal as US – facts don’t matter, only blind allegiance to the tribe. It’s tragic.

    https://twitter.com/piersmorgan/status/1265007510651535360

    Hard to argue with that.

  8. Biden is no perfect candidate, but he has strengths in the swing states Where Trump was elected by a narrow margin last election.

    Unlike Hillary, he is comfortable with white working class people, He has strong ties to Pennsylvania. In particular

    The only weapon at Trump and his Sheeple have is the politics of personal destruction.

    Yes, Expect much more of this

  9. //Everyone defending Cummings would be baying for blood if Labour had won the election, Corbyn was PM in this crisis, & Seamus Milne had been caught breaking the lockdown.
    UK politics is now as tribal as US – facts don’t matter, only blind allegiance to the tribe. It’s tragic//

    Tragic indeed. But in cases like this the “good authority” principle has to be applied rigorously. If any integrity can be saved from this and attack on the truth and on sanity all over the political world, then each must denounce such hypocrisy on his own side as much as on the other.

  10. Yes setting the Perfect example hiding in his basement and avoiding any questions by anyone…..

    a great way to actually campaign when you don’t dare let anyone ask you a question you haven’t given them to ask.

  11. If any integrity can be saved from this and attack on the truth and on sanity all over the political world, then each must denounce such hypocrisy on his own side as much as on the other.

    Very noble Noel, astonishingly naive, but noble.

    I wonder if the hypocritical attack on the truth and sanity in the political world were totted up which column would have the longest list of entries?

    Good luck with any of that.

    If they were coloured, that someone would have another point to make

    Spot on. Any situation must be utilised to attack political opposition of the POTUS.

  12. Noel – that photo is of Biden and his wife at a Memorial Day tribute. You will note that the “alternate” news media types who deem themselves independent will in robot fashion simply follow the lead of Trump in not only not wearing masks, but in mockery of those who do.

  13. Spot on.

  14. Could also be said that a father of a man who served in Iraq visits a military cemetery on Memorial Day only to be mocked by supporters of a family of draft dodgers.

  15. Yes

    No member of the Trump family has ever served in the military.

  16. Mahons, on May 26th, 2020 at 1:11 PM Said:
    Noel – that photo is of Biden and his wife at a Memorial Day tribute. You will note that the “alternate” news media types who deem themselves independent will in robot fashion simply follow the lead of Trump in not only not wearing masks, but in mockery of those who do.

    Says the man who’s MAIN STREAM NON-ALTERNATE NEWS is still claiming Trump colluded with the Russians….. lmao friggin maroon

  17. How do you know

    You’ve never provided a link where they’ve said anything that was a lie or close to it, because you’ve never seen such a link. You are repeating that the RNC and the Big Lie Machine have told you.

    Why not question what you are told? Why not think for yourself?

  18. Patrick -you’ve made a claim about the New York Times and Washington Post repeatedly for several months. Several people here asked you for examples. You’ve never provided them. People observe that and judge your credibility accordingly.
    The instant post involves David marching in lock step with Trump’s retweet of a Fox News commentator’s take on the photo.

  19. ” Alternative ” view means referring to another possibility.

    Cut and paste of Trump tweets and of Fox State Media is no ” alternative “.

    It’s acting in lockstep with the state.

  20. I know because unlike you I read everything.

    Both sides of the argument.

    Look I can’t help you two NYrs if your both to dumb to know what both sides are saying that’s your problem Phantom and Mahons.

    You want to sit there and pretend that the NYTs, WaPo, BBC etc have not spent the last 4 years and are still continuing today to push a false narrative it reflects on you…. no one else.

    I can’t wait to read both of your’s idiocy when the Obama Justice personnel start going to jail.

  21. https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-shares-tweet-mocking-biden-face-mask-coronavirus-2020-5

    Despite the White House’s introducing a rule requiring visitors and staff to wear masks, Trump has in several briefings been the only top official not wearing one.

    According to recent reports, Trump believes wearing a mask in public makes him look unpresidential, and could damage his image on the campaign trail.

    Biden, in contrast, has urged Americans to “follow the science” and told ABC News in April that he would wear a mask in public.

  22. “You want to sit there and pretend that the NYTs, WaPo, BBC etc have not spent the last 4 years and are still continuing today to push a false narrative it reflects on you”

    Can you give a single example of when they lied? You claim they lie so much that it should be really easy for you to find just one single lie.

  23. I can’t wait to read both of your’s idiocy when the Obama Justice personnel start going to jail.

    Patrick is wandering in the desert again…. still seeing that Oasis mirage in the distance 🙂

  24. You can’t provide a link to a publication that you’ve never read.

  25. Phantom, on May 26th, 2020 at 1:43 PM Said:
    ” Alternative ” view means referring to another possibility.

    Cut and paste of Trump tweets and of Fox State Media is no ” alternative “.

    It’s acting in lockstep with the state.

    Says the drone who just echos the NYTs, Bill De Blasio and AOC….

  26. “Says the drone who just echos the NYTs, Bill De Blasio and AOC….”

    I have to say I think Phantom is more critical of de Blasio and AOC than you are.

  27. https://www.nytimes.com/

    Here’s the link to the NYT website. It’s easy to navigate. There is a search feature.

    Now, go find the stories where they lied.

  28. Patrick is wandering in the desert again…. still seeing that Oasis mirage in the distance 🙂

    I’ll find the clip of Curly swimming in the desert……

  29. Here’s the Lies

    https://www.nytimes.com/

  30. You have been consistently asked by I and others here to provide examples of NYT, Wapo, BBC lies and you don’t because you can’t.

    Says the man who’s MAIN STREAM NON-ALTERNATE NEWS is still claiming Trump colluded with the Russians

    I don’t know if Trump colluded with Russians but his family / administration certainly did. Two words.

    Natalia Veselnitskaya

  31. No that is the front-page. You have told that “joke” before. More and more you are showing that even you don’t believe the NYT etc lie but you have to keep saying it to keep up appearances.

  32. Patrick. You have a habit of constantly making claims, and then failing to provide evidence to back them up. This does not do anything for your credibility mate.

  33. Patrick

    What city is the NY Times printed in?

  34. Patrick is trapped in his own claims and unable to back them up. At this point he isn’t even fooling himself.

  35. The funny thing is that the NYT and WP can be legitimately criticized.

    But here we have condemnations by someone who clearly doesn’t read it, someone who is completely unfamiliar with these papers work.

    I disagree with both papers at times, but I pay to receive them because the information that I get is worth much more than the subscription charges.

    Support your local newspaper.

  36. And BTW anyone who has Amazon prime can get the WP at a deeply discounted rate.

    Offend the dictator, subscribe today.

  37. There are of course very valid criticism that can be made against both papers as well as other mainstream media publications and figures. But the right wingers here (and left wingers elsewhere) aren’t interested in legitimate criticism. They want to deligitimize the press holding Trump accountable, to blunt it’s impact.

  38. “Just. Sheer. Cringe.”

    It shows how Twitter has reduced political debate to childish name calling and trivial sound bites rather than trying to explain what is wrong with the image.

  39. Brit Hume of Fox News made the first mocking comment about Biden’s mask.

    And he’s one of the smart ones over there!

  40. And BTW anyone who has Amazon prime can get the WP at a deeply discounted rate.

    Offend the dictator, subscribe today.

    Phantom’s dyed his hair green now.

    I was thinking to myself how stupid you have to be to wear a mask outdoors. Monumentally stupid. Then along comes China Joe to prove it.

  41. It isn’t at all stupid to wear a mask outdoors, if you’re going to be close to strangers.

    Are you guys in favor of the virus?

  42. It is smart and considerate to wear one outdoors if you run the risk of not being able to socially distance.

  43. It isn’t at all stupid to wear a mask outdoors ..

    Yes it is. Really, it is. There is no need to wear a mask outdoors.

  44. The White House’s medical task force recommends mask wearing outside if you can’t social distance.

  45. It should be obvious by now that Pete’s opinion of masks has nothing to do with virology or public health, and everything to do with subverting whatever he regards as a fashionable liberal shibboleth.

  46. Pete, where does the China Joe moniker come from? Is it because a finacial journalist said pre Covid last year that his election would be good for business with China?

    There is no need to wear a mask outdoors

    How about if you’re in an enclosed space outdoors?

  47. How about if you’re in an enclosed space outdoors?

    Then you’re indoors. It’s called a building.

  48. When the start soccer games with supporters in the stands – which will happen – and this virus is still around, should people wear masks

  49. There is no need to wear a mask outdoors.

    Maybe if you are lucky enough to live in a chocolate-box village in the countryside, but for us poor plebs in the city it sure as dammit is a good idea. Pavements aren’t wide enough to allow proper social distancing.

  50. Then you’re indoors. It’s called a building

    No you’re not, fan zones, smoking areas, beer gardens etc are all enclosed areas outdoors.

    The ‘China Joe’ moniker?

  51. I agree with Pete here. It isn’t necessary and in some cases can actually be more harmful to wear a mask outdoors. I do concede that if you are going to an event outdoors that may involve groups of people you might get closer too, it can be marginally helpful.

    However, I heard a very logical explanation from an expert on the TV who explained why its unnecessary and indeed potentially harmful to wear in the street. He said in many cases people are going outside to go to another location, a shop,train, or some other building. If they wear their mask all the time outside, it will be wet and moist and loaded with germs from your breath by the time you get into the place where you really might need it and it will by then offer less protection. He advised people to take their mask but not putting it on until you enter the shop/ transport etc. when it will be fresh and dry and at its most useful.

  52. Colm – the situation was not however merely wearing one outdoors, but at an event where social distancing was not guaranteed. In those situations I suspect even your expert would agree that a mask made sense.

  53. There are very many occasions when people are stationery when outside

    Chatting, at an outdoor cafe, at a sports event.

    It is unwise to be talking down masks. Pete is serving the usual Contrary Mary slop

    The people in Singapore and Taiwan wouldn’t eat it, why would you?

  54. Stop that. It’s silly

    Posted on May 25, 2020 by legiron
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    Some may remember Graham Chapman’s ‘colonel’ character from Monty Python. Another comedy team that wouldn’t be allowed near the airwaves in this time of political correctness, in which people get offended by tea.

    He would have had to shout his line ‘Stop that, it’s silly’ until his throat was raw. The human race has, indeed, descended into a pit of stupidity it might never climb out of. Forget about diseases or crashing economies or wars. Humanity is heading into a race of drooling idiots who are offended by the mere presence of all the drooling idiots around them, never noticing the drool on their own chins.

    I was in Local Shop on Saturday. My first visit for a month. I had to post a mug and pick up some minor essentials. This little shop has toilet paper, pasta and flour again. Any kind of flour you want. I can’t remember the last time I saw a not-empty flour shelf in any shop. Somewhere there are people with stacks of flour, pasta and toilet paper, all just waiting for the mice, mould and flies of summer to ruin the lot. We didn’t stock up with anything and didn’t run out of anything – but then we live far away from civilisation so tend to have a few weeks’ worth anyway.

    You would think that people, especially the British, would now look at those immense stacks of pointless stocks and think ‘Well, we have been a bit silly. Let’s calm down and try not to do it again’.

    No. Now they are arguing over masks. One side says nobody should wear a mask ever, the other says everyone has to wear one all the time. Which side is right? As is always the case, neither. Oh, and there are regular spam emails trying to sell overpriced cloth masks that won’t do a damn thing.

    Actually that’s not true. Wearing a cloth mask all day virtually guarantees a repiratory infection. Medical masks have a hydrophobic layer because every exhalation carries a load of water vapour. The hydrophobic layer means the condensation resulting from that breath does not leave you with a damp mask over your face. Also, medics do not keep the mask on all day and they don’t put the same one on all the time.

    A cloth mask will gradually get damp as you breathe through it. It won’t stop a virus. You might as well wear a sieve. What it will do is provide a damp environment, warmed by your face, that will delight any airborne bacteria or fungal spores that land on it. Keep that on for hours, let the populations grow, and inhale all those lovely infections. You’re going to feel a bit silly when you’re stuck in hospital with a fungal or bacterial infection caused by your futile attempt to stop a virus.

    Those masks are to make you feel better about having other people around. That is all they achieve. They also achieve increased CO2 rebreathing, restricted oxygen intake, and a risk of other kinds of infection. All while doing sod all to stop a virus.

    Okay, getting hold of proper medical masks isn’t going to be easy. If everyone stocked up we’d have the flour, pasta and toilet roll situation all over again (which I fully expect is happeneing now). Even the medical masks won’t stop a virus, which is why everyone wants an N95 mask.

    However, N95 masks have to be properly fitted and they are, due to their fine pore size, hellish hard to breathe through. Keep that on all day and you’re going to pass out from CO2 toxicity long before you have to worry about any kind of infection.

    Right, so let’s say a cloth mask is all you can get. You must get more than one and they must be washable. Minimum 60C wash. Forget about the bloody virus, the detergent will kill that at 30C. What you are trying to kill are the bacteria and fungi that your mask has been collecting while you wear it and you need at least a 60C wash for that. So no masks made of fleece that won’t survive a 60C wash.

    Only wear it when you are around other people – and not the people you live with, it’s too late to worry about that now. Take it off whenever you are alone. Do not wear a mask of any kind when driving, there is a real danger of wooziness due to rebreathing CO2 which means you can’t concentrate. The virus cannot penetrate your windshield, trust me on that one.

    If I am forced to wear a mask in a shop I will put it on when I go in and it’ll be straight off when I come out. Not that I’m likely to be visiting many shops, since CStM and I cannot shop together at the moment and we’re quite enjoying having the shopping delivered. Supermarkets are not likely to be much fun for a long time yet either.

    Put the mask in the wash after ONE day of use. No, it is not okay to use it for three days in a row, those bacteria and fungi are still growing while it’s hung on a hook in your centrally heated home. Next day’s outing will add more. You need at least two masks so you can have one washed and drying and the other ready in case you want to go to the shops again.

    If you are in a car alone or with members of your household you do not need a mask. The driver absolutely must not have one on. If you are cycling or running about in the countryside, well away from everyone, you do not need a mask and should not wear one. If you pass out, who’s going to find you?

    Look at your memories of being in hospital. Admittedly I don’t have many of those but in the few I do have, none of the medical staff wore masks. Not the doctors, not the nurses and certainly not the patients. Masks were for surgery, and their purpose was to avoid contamination of an open wound by anything breathed out by the surgeon.

    Suddenly everyone in hospital is wearing them. There was never any ‘PPE shortage’. Hospitals were stocked on the basis of normal use, not on the basis of every bugger in there wanting one. Stocks were not low. They were depleted rapidly because of a surge in demand. Restocking was hampered by that surge in demand happening in a hundred countries at the same time.

    I could make a virus-stopping mask but I’m not really seeing the point any more. Well, I’m a special case I suppose, I have never really interacted with people very much and live where they can’t find me. If you live in a big city you can’t avoid that interaction. You also cannot escape the virus. Many of you have already had it, it can range from a cold to a really bad flu, but not many of you needed hospital treatment.

    Not wearing a mask is about to become the New Smoking. They will point and scream at you, some shops will refuse entry, you’ll get nagged and harassed every chance they get, they will try to shame you because you are not one of the herd. You will need one, but do not wear it all the time. Especially if you have asthma or any kind of lung condition or have just recovered from any lung infection of any kind. That mask will restrict your breathing no matter what it’s made of and if your lungs are already struggling it will make that worse.

    The mask is futile. Even N95, if you aren’t trained in its use. I note that all the mask wearers wear no eye protection even though we have known from the outset that this virus can get in that way. Yet it’s all about the mask.

    There is no mention of taking supplemental vitamins C and D and zinc supplements. Watch it with the zinc, extended use can lead to anaemia but taking it for a few months while this nonsense rages won’t harm you. Vitamin D is cheap, and an orange a day will get you nicely loaded with vitamin C. Oh, I might get some Haliborange. I remember that from childhood, it was the only medicine that tasted like sweets. All these things help against a wide range of viruses and other ailments. As does being a miserable antisocial swine, but that’s just me.

    Hydroxychloroquine… well, there are almost no lupus sufferers in the hospitals. That’s the drug routinely used to treat lupus. It does work although I’d only take it under medical supervision. For most people it’s fine but some do get an allergic reaction to it. You can get some quinine into you with a small daily glass of tonic water. Proper tonic water, not this modern trendy ‘no quinine’ shite. That’s why tonic water exists – gin and tonic was originally designed to get quinine into the Brits who had moved in on countries where malaria was endemic.

    However, the mask is the new polarisation. Some see it as an oppressive thing, others see it as the only thing that will save humanity. It is neither. It is a fad, a sop to the terrified, a feel good farce. It will not protect you and will not protect anyone around you. And yet, if you are seen without one you will be treated as smokers have been treated for years.

    The amusing part is that smokers, like lupus sufferers, are hugely underrepresented in hospitalisations from Flu Manchu. Nicotine is also protective and you don’t even have to smoke it. Several places are trialling nicotine patches as a treatment. I find this hilarious because it’s rather like this…

    Smokers are excluded from most places now, places where everyone else gathers to spread their diseases. It’s just the icing on the cake to find that nicotine is the preventative they will all refuse to take.

    If I have to go somewhere where masks are compulsory I will wear one, but it will not be a standard medical mask. I have a plague doctor mask and several ‘Are you my mummy?‘ style gas masks. I will only wear one where it is compulsory. While I could potentially make a virus-proof mask I no longer see the need. The virus has turned out to be far less dangerous than it’s been hyped up to be, although it could still be an issue in highly populated cities. It’s all about the percentages. If, say, ten percent need to go to hospital, then ten percent out here is a lot less than ten percent of London.

    But still, if I have to wear a mask, it will not be a medical one, it will be outrageous. It will be scary and yes, I will have to hype up the scariness. Can’t help it, it’s what I do. I might even put a pointless posy in that plague doctor mask, just as in the old days. What the hell, they’re already primed for a scare. I just can’t let that pass.

    There is no point telling people they are being silly. They are too scared to accept it. They have to be shown just how silly it all is and they have to realise it for themselves. Before it’s too late, before they hand their lives over to total control because there will be no way back from that

    It’s that time again, to shoot the messenger.

    Wearing a mask to stop the spread of the Chinese virus, has now reached clown world territory.

    “Stay at home, save the NHS”

    “Stay alert”

    “Stay afraid of your own shadow”

  55. Harri – your own words are often nonsensical. Why put up something nonsensical from elsewhere?

  56. Stay afraid of your own shadow

    I’ve noticed how this particular turn of phrase along with ‘bedwetter’ seems to becoming more common on ATW for people who show concerns about Covid infection H.

    It wasn’t a million years ago that you were posting videos here of the Italian army ferrying dead bodies to different towns in Lombardy because the local crematoriums couldn’t cope with the rate of dead. Isn’t that a bit of a mixed message?

  57. Harri is a bit of a mixed message 🙂

  58. Colm is wanking over Harri again.

    Do you never get tired of losing?

    It must be a fetish…..or something?

  59. Colm is wanking over Harri again.

    I don’t think we really want to hear about that dream you had last night Harri 🙂

  60. Every so often you see a series of words that you never would have expected to see.

  61. But to get back to the post in question – its actually nothing to do with masks, its all about finding an excuse to slag off Joe Biden. If he had been pictured at this event without wearing a mask the Trumpists would have sang a different tune and would have been crowing that he was endangering everyone else and being selfish.

  62. Of course.

  63. Phantom

    Precisely.

    “Harri is a Trumper”?

    What are you actually smoking?

    Stop it, it’s highly probably illegal.

    Trump is a bumbling oaf of biblical proportions.

    So, what part of “two choices” do you not exactly get?

    It’s a) idiot number one.

    Or

    It’s b) idiot number two.

    More fool you.

  64. Colm, on May 26th, 2020 at 8:58 PM Said:
    But to get back to the post in question – its actually nothing to do with masks, its all about finding an excuse to slag off Joe Biden.

    No it’s not.

    Thinking a mask can protect you or anyone from the Chinese virus, is clown-world stuff.

  65. Harri

    I know you are not a Trump supporter but why do you feel the need to vociferously jump on anyone (mainly Phantom actually )who criticizes Trump here ?

  66. Thinking a mask can protect you or anyone from the Chinese virus, is clown-world stuff.

    Do you say the same thing to your wife who, if I recall, works in health or care services ?

  67. Thinking a mask can protect you or anyone from the Chinese virus, is clown-world stuff.

    100 years of virology rather suggests otherwise. Biology really isn’t your strong suit.

  68. Colm.

    It’s “mandatory “

    You like ‘rules’

    Was my wife conforming to the rules’

    And do you agree?

    By the way, once again, if you actually bothered to see past the end of your nose (difficult I know) but my wife is a scrub nurse, she works in theatre, she wears a “surgical” mask as a matter of procedure.

    Colm.

    At times mate, you really are a weapons grade idiot.

  69. Masterson.

    It’s obviously not yours either.

  70. if I recall, works in health or care services ?

    Healthcare services?

    😂😂😌😂😂

    Clown world on another whole new level.

  71. OK Harri… I am stepping away quietly. I know you are having one of your turns…

  72. Colm, on May 26th, 2020 at 9:04 PM Said:
    Harri
    I know you are not a Trump supporter but why do you feel the need to vociferously jump on anyone (mainly Phantom actually )who criticizes Trump here ?

    Colm.

    Try explaining that to Phantom who has Trump oozing out of his dopey ears dsy in and day out, and simp,y doesn’t possess the intellect to understand why everisntbsuffering quite as much as he is from terminal TDS, as amusing as it is?

    Colm.

    Phantom, without even so much of a single ounce of evidence accused me of being a chief Trumper. (Phantoms uncontrolled psychological mental illness against Trump) most times, gets the better of him..it’s all so terribly sad really.

    “Harri is a chief a Trumper”?

    All utter bullshit plucked out of the air nonsense of course.

    Now, getting him to admit he was sadly, very sadly mistaken is a whole new world of hurt.

  73. Colm, on May 26th, 2020 at 9:19 PM Said:
    OK Harri… I am stepping away quietly. I know you are having one of your turns…

    Wow!

    I’m not easily impressed Colm.

    But wait.. have you actually finished wanking over Harri on just about every other post?

  74. harri doth protest too much.

    He is MAGA man!!

  75. Okay, Harri. Why not get your wife to do a quick straw poll of her colleagues to see how many of them agree with you that masks offer no protection against airborne viruses. One of us is inhabiting clown world, and it ain’t me.

  76. harri

    You leap to defend Trump a hundred times a day, and you’re not a Trumper?

    Compared to you, Patrick is a Trump hater.

  77. masterson, on May 26th, 2020 at 9:30 PM Said:
    Okay, Harri. Why not get your wife to do a quick straw poll of her colleagues to see how many of them agree with you that masks offer no protection against airborne viruses. One of us is inhabiting clown world, and it ain’t me.

    The masks are for surgeons to not at least try to infect open wounds masterson.

    I thought you were a Doctor…or something?

    You should know better.

  78. Phantom.

    If you truly believe I am a Trumper.

    Then all hope is lost, there is nothing, absolutely nothing else anyone can do to help you.

    A lost cause is a lost cause.

  79. Phantom, on May 26th, 2020 at 9:30 PM Said:
    harri
    You leap to defend Trump a hundred times a day, and you’re not a Trumper?

    A hundred times a day you say?

    Okay.

    Let’s just say for arguments sake…the last one hundred days.

    Name six? Out of six thousand, that shouldn’t be too difficult?

    Precisely.

    Phantom.

    Stop digging.

    You are making clown world seem a sane place to be.

  80. Phantom, on May 26th, 2020 at 9:28 PM Said:
    harri doth protest too much.
    He is MAGA man!!

    Predictable.

    But poor, poor Phantom.

  81. I don’t think Harri respects Trump. He routinely sides with those who support Trump, but more out of a general dislike of liberals than an actual liking of Trump. Unfortunately, given the ludicrous things Trump says and does it is a distinction without a difference.

  82. The masks are for surgeons to not at least try to infect open wounds masterson.

    I know what surgical masks are for, Harri.

    Respirator masks (like the N95 or N99) offer very good protection to the wearer, because they filter out a very high proportion of microscopic particles.

    Masks such as those worn by Biden and his wife offer less benefit to the wearer, because they don’t filter air nearly as effectively as an N95, but they also protect everybody else by significantly reducing aerosol effects.

  83. masterson, on May 26th, 2020 at 9:43 PM Said:
    The masks are for surgeons to not at least try to infect open wounds masterson.
    I know what surgical masks are for, Harri.
    Respirator masks (like the N95 or N99) offer very good protection to the wearer, because they filter out a very high proportion of microscopic particles.

    And surgical masks?

    What protection do they give?

    Against any virus.

  84. I know what surgical masks are for, Harri.

    Hmmmm..I seriously now have my doubts to be honest masterson.

    I believe you might have an idea, what you don’t appear to possess is a clue?

  85. harri

    You remain befuddled.

    They are generally not asking people to wear masks to protect the wearer from the virus.

    Slow down and read something.

  86. Mahons.

    Trump is a blithering idiot, you get what you vote for.

    You simply now have a choice,

    a) blithering idiot number one

    Or

    b) blithering idiot number two.

    Mighty America huh!
    If it’s any consolation, just about every other country on the planet is in exactly the same position, apart from New Zealand.

    Phantom.

    Any luck with those Harri pro-Trump posts?

    Or were you in full-on Trump is inside my head mental-illness modes..and simply..misspoke?

    No worries mate, even the great oracles, and perfect human beings make the odd error.

    Own it.

  87. Phantom, on May 26th, 2020 at 9:54 PM Said:
    harri
    You remain befuddled.
    They are generally not asking people to wear masks to protect the wearer from the virus.
    Slow down and read something.

    Yawn… blah, blah, blah.

    Now, kindly answer the question.

    Poor, poor Phantom.

  88. blah blah blah

    You have no idea what the purpose of the mask is but you comment on it?

    baa baa baa

  89. The irony here being..

    The only person ATW who accused me wrongly of being “A Trumper” ..chief Trumper in fact. (Cough, cough…bullshit alert)

    Is the only person without his usual arrogance to actually admit he was wrong.

    Poor Phantom

    The shear arrogance is strong in this one.

  90. Phantom, on May 26th, 2020 at 10:01 PM Said:
    blah blah blah
    You have no idea what the purpose of the mask is but you comment on it?
    baa baa baa

    Says Mr Sheep.

  91. Phantom.

    Go to sleep.

    You’re bullshit is tiring.

    Goodnight.

  92. My God Harri, you are like one of those bunnies in the old advert that was powered by Duracell 🙂

  93. Johnny Cash’s daughter, Rosanne Cash, on Tuesday, slammed the “ignorance & hatred” over wearing masks.

    The writer, in a tweet, condemned a man who she said called her daughter a “Liberal pussy” for wearing a mask to the grocery store in Nashville, saying her daughter was a survivor of H1N1 and is “trying to survive” the current pandemic.

    “My daughter lives in Nashville & wore her mask to buy groceries. Guy yells at her: ‘Liberal pussy!’ ” she posted.

    “Back story: she nearly died of H1N1,” the writer continued. “She was in the ICU for a week, on a ventilator for 3 days. She CANNOT get covid. The ignorance & hatred is so painful. She’s trying to survive.”

    WP

  94. https://www.timeout.com/newyork/news/theres-now-a-wall-of-face-mask-vending-machines-on-the-lower-east-side-052620

    The longer this goes on, the more masks we’ll need—and one merchant is on top of it.

    In April, online retailer RapidMask2Go installed a face mask vending machine at 156 Delancey Street, selling KN95 masks for $4 a pop. Now, there’s two more at that location and another machine was added at 3015 Stillwell Avenue in Coney Island, according to the company’s owner.