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Yes it is a Hate Crime.

By Patrick Van Roy On June 1st, 2020

200 Responses to “Yes it is a Hate Crime.”

  1. That’s either downtown Mogadishu, Somalia, South Sudan or South London?

  2. Subhumans.

  3. Where did this take place

  4. Police are still searching for suspects in the brutal beating of a Rochester, New York couple who police say were trying to protect their store Saturday during a protest sparked by the death of George Floyd.

    The violent attack, which was captured on video, unfolded outside the Rochester Fire Equipment Company on Marshall Street in the city’s downtown during broad daylight Saturday.

  5. https://www.foxbusiness.com/lifestyle/rochester-couple-attacked-george-floyd-protests

  6. Burning a homeless man’s few possessions. So much justice for George Floyd!

    https://twitter.com/Holbornlolz/status/1267308118943379456

    Anyone retaining the slightest sympathy for these bums and primitives isn’t thinking clearly.

    They’ve had their fun. It’s time to reclaim the streets with whatever force is necessary. Good people, which is the great majority, have only so much patience.

    Then sack the teachers. These riots are the fruits of a degenerate philosophy which teaches children to hate their own country and all it was founded on. They are taught that they live in a country set against them, and clearly not many ever receive enough of an education to decide otherwise.

  7. A clear criminal attack.

  8. I don’t believe in the concept of hate crimes, but if ever there was a race based hate crime this incident in Rochester NY is it.

    I am not surprised that the rioters burned a homeless man’s stuff. A similar element did a lot of bad things near me in NYC during the fake ” Occupy Wall Street ” atrocity. Including vandalizing a small business whose owner had let them use the bathroom.

  9. Any further news on the two Antifa sisters, Samantha and Darian Shader, one of which tried to murder four cops with a Molotov Cocktail?

  10. I see no further news, apart from the fact that the two sisters have been charged in federal court.

    I am amazed that it has not bee a bigger story.

    Unless I’m mistaken, the NY Times hasn’t reported on the Shaders as of this afternoon – which would be an intentional omission.

  11. The New York Times reported on it 2 days ago.

  12. What is that?

    Third degree attempted murder, 25 years plus?

    Their whole lives wasted, thrown down the drain, all for some far-left misguided nonsense.

  13. Now I see it – but on the online edition they spent all of one paragraph to then Shaders, nine paragraphs into a much larger article.

    And that looks to be it over two days.

    Not impressive.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2020/05/31/nyregion/police-cars-nyc-protests.html

  14. harri

    Yes, and the two young idiot lawyers who did the same thing with the molotovs. They had a golden ticket in life, and now they’ll be in prison for a really long time what should be there best years.

    I am genuinely interested in how they got to be like this.

    Not only did they do a very evil thing, they did a very stupid thing. Did they not think that they might ever get caught?

  15. Yes, and the two young idiot lawyers who did the same thing with the molotovs. They had a golden ticket in life, and now they’ll be in prison for a really long time what should be there best years.

    Yes, and ironically, these misguided far-left Antifa are now really going to find out just how close they at first thought are as whites to their black brethren in jail.

    I wish them much luck with that one..

    They are going to need it.

    Karma sure is a bitch.

  16. It’s certainly a crime, and a cowardly bastard one at that, but a crime based on the poor woman’s race? If that was the case surely they would have attacked the white dude at the bus stop too?

  17. I assume the above horrendous savage attack on a defences old lady Is on all the major news channel’s condemning this subhuman barbarism?

    I assume the elderly lady was possibly in vain trying to protect her business?

    Maybe a business she has scrimped and saved for, taken much hard graft, and years to build up. No doubt for the good and wellbeing of the local community.

    Of what possible use could the four or five subhuman barbaric waste of oxygen thieves be to the local community, or society?

  18. If that was the case surely they would have attacked the white dude at the bus stop too?

    Perhaps they didn’t fancy taking on anyone bigger than five foot, female, and under the age of 60?

  19. Trump emerges from his bunker tells state governors that they are ‘weak’ and need to ‘dominate’ the protestors:

    https://www.channel4.com/news/trump-calls-for-crackdown-as-disorder-spreads-across-us-after-george-floyd-death

  20. Perhaps they didn’t fancy taking on anyone bigger than five foot, female, and under the age of 60?

    Perhaps but I’d doubt it. I think this poor woman was attacked by these cowardly bastards in spite of her racial origins and not because of it.

  21. The news has literally just reported here that that the autopsy commissioned by George Floyd’s family has concluded the cause of death was lack of air.

  22. https://abc13.com/politics/floyd-died-of-asphyxia-due-to-neck-and-back-compression-indep-autopsy/6224860/

  23. Paul

    This is all about race. They are race riots.

    Ask Antifa.

    How many little old black lady shop owners have been so savagely beaten by other blacks? During these race riots?

    Precisely.

  24. As for Trump “in his bunker”

    I would not think Trump or any other POTUS has any say in the matter.

  25. George Floyd died of ‘asphyxia due to neck and back compression’: Independent autopsy

    Well that’s that.

    The race riots are all going to kick off again.

  26. https://www.justice.gov/usao-edny/pr/two-brooklyn-residents-and-greene-county-resident-charged-connection-molotov-cocktail

    https://nypost.com/2020/06/01/molotov-cocktail-tossing-lawyers-tried-to-pass-out-explosives-cops/

  27. Dr Bodin has not done the 2nd autopsy yet…. that was a statement put out by the families Lawyer on a “PRELIMINARY” Exam…….

  28. He died because he had his necked pressed down for 8 minutes. Regardless of whether he died of asphyxia or a heart attack, he was killed as a result of what was being done to him. Its not a coincidence that he died the same day !

  29. You’d hardly need an autopsy to find the cause of this death.

    Pretty hard to miss it, with full video and the victim saying that he can’t breathe.

  30. And on the other flip of the coin..

    Moment protesters in Louisville protect a cop who got separated from his police unit during protests over the death of Breonna Taylor
    Protesters shielded a police officer from potential harm during a protest last Thursday in Louisville, Kentucky

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8377305/Moment-protesters-Louisville-protect-cop-got-separated-police-unit.html

    Any news reports, anywhere, of anything, of any Nazi Antifa misguided far-left terrorists protecting any police officers from..err..Antifa?

    Nope…thought not.

    To those thoroughly decent human beings protecting that officer from the likes of Antifa.

    You are all to be admired, and make the rest of us humble.

  31. Ps – I find the concept of a crime having to be be designated a “HATE CRIME” ludicrous. If you are being battered by thugs, its a hate crime regardless of motive !

  32. Patrick Van Roy, on June 1st, 2020 at 8:34 PM Said:
    Dr Bodin has not done the 2nd autopsy yet…. that was a statement put out by the families Lawyer on a “PRELIMINARY” Exam…….

    I’m pretty sure.

    Paul, would not make a silly make of assumption.

  33. *mistake

  34. Harri

    Paul may sometimes make an assumption, you on the other hand often just make a complete ass…. 🙂

  35. I disagree Herri. I don’t think if it was because of race or the white guy at the bus stop would have been attacked too.

    Ask the bogeyman A what? It’s a pity these guys weren’t white, then they could have been the A bogeyman too. It’s neatly parcelled up, blacks wrecking and looting because it’s what they do and whites wrecking and looting because they’re the A bogeyman.

    Is it true they only discovered the two sisters in NY were the A bogeyman when they dropped their membership cards.

  36. The two attorneys busted for throwing a Molotov cocktail through a police car window during protests in Brooklyn Friday night were trying pass out the explosive devices to demonstrators in the crowd,

    Oh, that’s all okay then..

    Off you trot.

    All is forgiven.

    😏

  37. Ask the bogeyman A what? It’s a pity these guys weren’t white

    Especially if you are scraping around at the bottom of that barrel.

    They were black.

    And Antifa, are mostly white.

    Mention far-left Antifa, and some on ATW doth protest far too much.

    Mention far-right EDL… and it’s a whole new story.

  38. Colm, on June 1st, 2020 at 8:43 PM Said:
    Harri
    Paul may sometimes make an assumption, you on the other hand often just make a complete ass…. 🙂

    Says the complete ass.

    Colm.

    Stop, stop right now.

    Trying to be all clever, funny, and amusing and stuff is not in your character, it really doesn’t suit you. Know your limitations Colm.

    Just how many more times do you have to lose?

    This is not even sport anymore.

    Colm is wanking over Harri…again..

    Brrrrrrrrr…shudder.

  39. Paul, would not make a silly make of assumption.

    No Harri he wouldn’t. He’s just saying what the news here reported and what the link from ABC13 above says.

  40. Colm once stated..quite clearly. “ you know to know when to walk away”

    Colm, at least you can never be accused of being a hypocrite? A clown..yes…

    😉

  41. *you need

  42. Especially if you are scraping around at the bottom of that barrel

    What barrel’s that H?

  43. Ok never mind Badin is done he’s on tv now……

    According to him the Heart was fine. To use his words at my age I wish my heart was in that good of shape….

    In my view they now have the evidence to raise the charges from 3rd deg to 2nd deg. There is also no way they will be able to beat the 3rd degree charge so the scumbag is going to do a minimum of 25yrs possibly 45 if the now up the charge.

  44. Never mind Badin is right Pat,

    The news has literally just reported here that that the autopsy commissioned by George Floyd’s family has concluded the cause of death was lack of air.

  45. Colm.

    Look mate.

    Put your cock away for at least five minutes, put Harri..somehow, as difficult as it maybe, away. Out of your strange and warped mind.

    And try, try with all your might, to comment on the savage beating of an old lady by four or five black sub-human savages in the clip above on an old white lady?

    Colm, if you haven’t fainted with righteous indignation by now, snap out of it.

  46. The news has literally just reported here that that the autopsy commissioned by George Floyd’s family has concluded the cause of death was lack of air.

    That’s how Covid gets you in the end.

  47. Colm.

    Have you got a “cunning plan”

    You are not going to respond with yet another schoolyard double entendres…or something else as useless…are you?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zjedLeVGcfE

  48. That’s how Covid gets you in the end.

    Agree..

    Covid-19 has now mutated..

    It’s now officially, a mental-illness.

  49. Paul I didn’t doubt your voracity, nor the guilt of the cop for killing the guy.

    I just didn’t believe Badin was done yet. He was and I confirmed what you said….. So never mind…..

  50. NP Pat, I stated that that’s what the news had just reported here and linked to a breaking news report about it.

  51. My god Harri, 4 comments in a row all about me. Jeez i’m flattered 🙂

  52. The two lawyers who threw the Molotov cocktail are as bad as can be. They knew the harm it could do. They should get long sentences.

    The governor of NY announced a curfew for NYC from 11:PM to 5:AM. I think that is a good idea. A few days of curfew and hopefully things will quiet down.

  53. NY

    The woman who allegedly threw that Molotov, Urooj Rahman, is a human rights lawyer.

    A lot of those bastards would be hard left, many likely not opposing her action on any moral grounds at all.

    Again, good luck to the NYPD and FBI in tracing everyone she’s phoned or texted over the past week.

  54. Houston Police Chief Art Acevedo ‘on behalf of the Police Cheifs of this country’ replies to the POTUS saying state governors are ‘weak’ and need to ‘dominate’

    Please, if you don’t have something constructive to say, keep your mouth shut.

    https://twitter.com/camanpour/status/1267531481322262528

  55. There’s a guy on the above tweet claiming:

    Now Fox News is telling you to go out & make citizens arrest using zip ties.

    If that’s true it is absolutely reckless insanity.

  56. Trump is the constant critic.

    It’s always someone else’s fault.

    Now, if he were a governor, he’d be such a good one. There would be no riots, no crimes, 0% unemployment.

  57. I was discussing these ‘anti-fa’ thugs today with some friends over coffee, and one suggested that they were inadequates who would pick on and swarm anybody who was even less physically cappable than they clearly are. OK – it’s a view, and possibly true.

    And then I saw this footage below from Portland Oregon, the capital city of soy-latte’d beta-males which lent weight to my friend’s theory:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=29&v=hpVj4658Zvc&feature=emb_logo

    Andrec S
    Andrec S
    1 day ago
    The fat guy first punch barely had an effect so the whole crowd of soy boys had to jump him. And they still couldn’t manage to steal the flag from him. A group of soy in their 20s/30s jumping a middle aged man. Saaaad lol

  58. In Dublin today, there was a demonstration about the Floyd killing.

    A crowd stayed in close quarters for a time. Apparently, spreading the virus around in Ireland will stop violent policing in Minnesota.

    Yay virus!

  59. Phantom

    “Again, good luck to the NYPD and FBI in tracing everyone she’s phoned or texted over the past week.” The guy who was the driver is/was an associate at a mid size firm and I’m sure they will trace all his communications as well.

    These two are a real disgrace to their profession. Their criminality and stupidity is astonishing.

  60. As I said before, this whole ‘hate crime’, labelling is ridiculous.
    Surely all violent crimes I hate crimes.

  61. Phantom, on June 1st, 2020 at 11:35 PM Said:
    In Dublin today, there was a demonstration about the Floyd killing.

    A crowd stayed in close quarters for a time. Apparently, spreading the virus around in Ireland will stop violent policing in Minnesota.

    Yay virus!

    Not sure why you singled Dublin out here. There were protests all over the place. Or were they the only ones who ignored the social distancing rules?

  62. I spotted Dublin, after hearing Irish friends of mine who were really angry about it. They work in hospitals there, and they don’t want a new spike of the virus. They didn’t enjoy the first one at all.

    Idiots who gather in large groups anywhere at this time should be criticized. I’ve condemned Hasidic Jews who’ve gathered in a Brooklyn against the rules, Pete has mocked those who gathered at Trafalgar Square.

    All these people are disrespecting the rights of others

  63. That’s okay. I was just wondering.

    Hundreds of young people gathered at seaside resorts here over the past few days, and Colin Glen, where I try and walk a few miles every day, has been full of crowds, all of them acting as if there never was a virus.

    It’s worrying, and if there is another spike, these will be the people to blame. It’s ‘too risky’ for them to send their kids back to school, or even go in to work themselves, but not too risky to bring those kids to a crowded beach or park.

  64. There are people doing the same here, gathering with their pals in parks or on the street, etc

    Most are following the rules; I have a hard time understanding those who choose not to.

  65. All these people are disrespecting the rights of others

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/jun/01/george-floyd-protests-take-place-in-cities-around-the-world

    Pete has mocked those who gathered at Trafalgar Square.

    Indeed he has.
    https://www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/bournemouth-beach-southend-sunbathers-bank-holiday-weather-a4449961.html

    https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-northern-ireland-52861828

    Yay virus!

  66. ( comment one )
    Pricks!! One cause however valid does not take precedence over public health

    Reply · 13h
    ( comment two )
    Xxx totally agree & it won’t bring George Floyd back, sadly, but 100’s more could become infected & we’ll be back in full lockdown

    Above from Irish medical workers, on social media yesterday

    Another comment was from a woman hospital worker who barely survived the virus, and who could not possibly understand why people were choosing to do this

  67. What I can’t understand is why they seem to be zeroing in on these protests as examples. It seems to be happening everywhere.

  68. To be fair to Phantom he as at least been consistent in his approach to how the regulations and lockdown are necessary and should be taken serioulsy. Pete on the other hand flips, depending on politics. He was one of those who praised Alison’s “Covid Bedwetters” post which was effectively mocking the public for being ‘cowed’ by the virus and telling them to ignore the government ‘dictats’ and get out there and back to normal life.

    Pete condemned the Trafalgar square protesters not because he was concerned about their lack of social distancing but because they are a bunch of “commie whingers” .

  69. Paul

    But at least the average idiot, in Ireland or in Florida is just that…the average idiot.

    But here we see that the politically engaged, the university grads, the op ed readers, who wish to opine on national and international affairs on grand stages, are no more intelligent in what they do than the dumbest knuckle dragger chugging a Bud at Lake of the Ozarks

    This shouldn’t shock anybody, but it does

  70. You’re surprised that the better educated are as selfish as the less educated?

    How many of those fervently opining against lockdown restrictions are the politically engaged, the university grads, the op ed readers, who wish to opine on national and international affairs on ATW?

  71. At least the average selfish bastard is probably well aware that he is just that

    The people in Dublin, Trafalgar DC — and Michigan – Would not be self-aware enough to realize just how selfish and ignorant they are

  72. Regardless of its veracity the above isn’t exactly a consolation to the matter being discussed.

  73. The GeorgeFloyd protests everywhere from Copenhagen to Australia are in a way curious: are they driven by white solidarity with blacks, or an increasing presence of Africans in those places through immigraiton or simply because social media etc have shortened the distance to Minneapolis?

    White solidarity from outside the USA is probably usually genuine (although there’s also often a sizeable element of anti-USA or simply anti-Trump in it). But I was surprised to see that at least the front lines of the protests in Denmark and AUS were made up of blacks.

  74. But here we see that the politically engaged, the university grads, the op ed readers, who wish to opine on national and international affairs on grand stages, are no more intelligent in what they do than the dumbest knuckle dragger chugging a Bud at Lake of the Ozarks

    Why should that be shocking Phantom. People with wealth/status/privilege have always considered that rules and laws won’t be imposed on them as much as on the ‘underprivileged’ and they have ample proof in their lives that is so.

  75. https://nypost.com/2020/06/02/fordham-is-on-fire-bronx-streets-chaos-as-looters-run-wild/

    Parts of the Bronx burned Monday night as looters had free reign to ransack scores of small businesses– chaos that finally prompted Mayor Bill de Blasio to order extra cops to swarm the areas.

    “Fordham is on fire,” Uptown Collective said, calling it an “ominous sign” alongside video of at least half a dozen fires burning in trash-strewn streets.

    Other video showed dozens of looters racing from a jewelry store as cops pulled up close to the fires.

    “How are we destroying our own communities and are ok with it?” Jose Daniel Rojas asked alongside his video. “There are serious problems we need to address.”

    Low income areas of the Bronx hit by looting.

    Exceptionally bad. Many of the store owners would live on thin margins, many would not have insurance.

    Etc

  76. Protesting “for George” my arse.

    It’s looting, “for George”

    What are they going to with all those looted goods,?

    They have looted and burned down the pawn shops.

    Dumb backward fucks.

  77. No matter what, George Floyd did not deserve to die.

    Now, that is that out of the way..

    George Floyd was no angel, he was one seriously bad motherfucker.

    https://www.reddit.com/r/fakenews/comments/gsq6vv/george_floyd_wasnt_innocent_this_is_his_criminal/

    The reason there were no arrests or convictions for 13 years is because he was in prison until 2014 for a 2007 arrest for aggravated assault! Geese. You have to look outside the US to even find this stuff because the media is hiding it.

  78. It is a mixture of legitimate protesters, Antifa and Antifa types, including the lawyers and other molotov throwers in NYC, and common criminals.

    And possibly right wing supremicists and others taking advantage of the situation for reasons that have nothing to do with Mr. Floyd.

  79. //the media is hiding it//

    Harri, can’t say as I blame them. What reporter would want to have his name on that article here in the States. His house would be burned down, and the police couldn’t be arsed to help. I’ve never seen the likes of it, since 1968 anyway.

  80. The media here is underplaying the frequency and severity of injuries to police officers and others too.

    If you want to get information on the Shader sisters, you need to look to the NY Post or Daily Mail. The so called serious papers are likely to have much more ink, moaning about Trump’s visit to the church yesterday.

  81. “If you want to get information on the Shader sisters, you need to look to the NY Post or Daily Mail. The so called serious papers are likely to have much more ink, moaning about Trump’s visit to the church yesterday.”

    In my opinion, the police officers involved in “Trump’s visit to the church yesterday” should be arrested. Or certainly the people who gave them their orders should be arrested. Ultimately if any police officers were hurt or injured in “Trump’s visit to the church yesterday” then good. They deserve it. This was the police and the national guard attacking a peaceful protest with plastic bullets and chemical weapons (the particular agent use would actually be a war crime if used in battle) so that the President could have a photo op.

  82. Phantom

    You seem to have a particular obsession with the Shader sisters, thinking they should be the top reported ‘celebrity’ criminals of the week. Should they be higher up on the news reporting scale because they are white middle class females as oppose to being black working class young males who had committed the same offence. Thousands of people are committing serious violent offences across America with no name recognition at all. They have been arrested will be charged, convicted and jailed. Many thousands will never be. I think the media should concentrate more on finding the others (like the 5 who battered that poor woman on the video posted here) rather than keeping these 2 individuals pointlessly in the spotlight.

  83. …They ,the Shader sisters have been arrested will be charged….

  84. Yes, I have interest in someone trying to burn four police officers to death.

    So sue me.

    Trump’s visit to the church oh so much worse!

  85. moaning about Trump’s visit to the church yesterday.

    Trump is in trouble.

    And what happens as a last resort, the last tool in the political toolbox to grab for.

    The Bible.

    I can’t recall Barry O’Blimey doing it, although I might be wrong?

    George Bush junior did exactly the same.

    If a gun in one hand and a Bible in the other will not do the trick, just the Bible left then.

    It’s America.

  86. https://www.fox29.com/news/looter-fatally-shot-by-gun-shop-owner-in-south-philadelphia-authorities-say?fbclid=IwAR0hkWbxSRYhTfz__yZmyLETHIOVNjZz5RU7jzL4DA6etxtzUaScB1ijJ9U

    Instant karma

    PHILADEPHIA – A looter was shot and killed by the owner of a gun shop in South Philadelphia, police say.

    The incident happened at approximately 4:11 a.m. on the 1500 block of Front Street in the Pennsport section of the city.

  87. “Trump’s visit to the church oh so much worse!”

    Phantom which is worse? Criminals attacking the police, or the police attacking innocent peaceful protestors at the whim of a wannabe dictator?

  88. Many thousands will never be. I think the media should concentrate more on finding the others (like the 5 who battered that poor woman on the video posted here) rather than keeping these 2 individuals pointlessly in the spotlight.

    Personally, I can not possibly argue with that one.

    Colm.

    They will find many of them, if not most of them..

    Looters, muggers, old white lady battering savages. These savages will not escape justice for ever.

    Too many cameras to escape.

    Antifa don’t wear “black-bloc” for no reason.

  89. Trying to burn people alive is pretty high on my list of bad things.

    But let’s not talk about that. Oh no, never talk about that.

  90. And the people who did that have been arrested and will be prosecuted and potentially spend decades in prison. What will happen to the Stasi like thugs who attacked peaceful protestors?

  91. Phantom

    You are losing perspective and making ridiculous comparisons. Trump is the President. Comparing the media attention he receives to any individual story involving members of the public is daft. There have been many other incidents of attempted murder against police officers where the media haven’t concentrated on splashing the names of the thugs on their front pages. Do you not care about those cases ? You don;t seem bothered by the lack of publicity there. In case you haven;t noticed there is a LOT going on across your country connected with this whole issue, yet you seem to think the Shader sisters should be the only show in town !

  92. If you want to get information on the Shader sisters, you need to look to the NY Post or Daily Mail. The so called serious papers are likely to have much more ink, moaning about Trump’s visit to the church yesterday.

    so I see said the Blind Man as he picked up his hammer and Saw…..

    Yet you believe these same “Papers of Record” have been giving you the full story on ANYTHING else ?

  93. I see very many stories that are not reported by the so called serious press.

    The NYT chooses to under-report some things, Fox News chooses to act as state media for a wannabee bum/dictator

    I criticize both. Not everyone here does that.

  94. Hate crime?

    “Floyd was charged in 2007 with armed robbery in a home invasion in Houston and in 2009 was sentenced to five years in prison as part of a plea deal”.

    Floyd held a gun to a pregnant woman’s stomach, before he pistol whipped her.

    All for cash & drugs.

    I would class that as a hate crime.

  95. As you said, what happened to Floyd was wrong, but what you speak of here should be part of the national discussion, but is not.

  96. “As you said, what happened to Floyd was wrong, but what you speak of here should be part of the national discussion, but is not.”

    Should it be part of the discussion? Is it relevant to what happened?

  97. Yes.

    It is relevant.

    It shows that Floyd had a history of being a violent criminal, something that Chauvin might have known. Floyd had just committed a crime, another thing that is underplayed.

    Again, it does not justify what those cops did.

    All should be part of an expanded discussion, but it is not.

  98. Should it be part of the discussion? Is it relevant to what happened?

    It should to black women.

    It’s black women he terrorised.

    Black Lives Matter.

  99. Agree with Phantom.

  100. “Again, it does not justify what those cops did.”

    Then why mention it at all. Saying “it shows that Floyd had a history of being a violent criminal, something that Chauvin might have known” sounds like you trying to justify it. Or at least minimise it. In reality it is irrelevant. It is the equivalent in this situation to the “she was wearing a short skirt so it isn’t really rape” type comments.

    Only the actions of Chauvin and his accomplices caused the death of George Floyd. To discuss Floyd’s character is nothing more than attempt to blame the victim for his own death, to protect those who are actually responsible.

    It is nothing more than an attempt to muddy the waters.

  101. No, it is relevant to who Floyd was.

    You wish to conceal things.

    There’s been enough of that.

  102. Perspective. Why was George on the ground in the first place? All the facts matter. It doesn’t excuse his killing, but puts it into perspective.

  103. “No, it is relevant to who Floyd was.”

    It is relevant to who Floyd was. But who Floyd was is not relevant to this matter.

  104. “All the facts matter.”

    I disagree entirely. As in the analogy I noted above in a rape case the shortness of the skirt the victim was wearing is a fact. But it is not a relevant fact to determining what happened in the case. And is only deployed, not to determine what happened, but to confuse or excuse what happened.

  105. Charles in Texas, on June 2nd, 2020 at 4:17 PM Said:
    Perspective. Why was George on the ground in the first place? All the facts matter. It doesn’t excuse his killing, but puts it into perspective.

    Because he is approximately 6ft 6, and he was seriously kicking off in the back of the Police vehicle.

  106. You are speaking as a defense attorney might.

    That’s not what anyone needs to be doing in a serious conversation about any of this.

  107. If he was one who clothed the naked and fed the hungry, you can be damned sure that those facts would not be concealed.

  108. “You are speaking as a defense attorney might.”

    No. The now international discussion on this matter is based around yet another killing of an unarmed black man by police officers. What is relevant is what caused the death of George Floyd. Did Floyd’s character cause his death, in any way?

  109. What is relevant is what caused the death of George Floyd. Did Floyd’s character cause his death, in any way?

    No, but his horrendous ultra-violent rap sheet, and him being a 6ft 6” full of drugs offender who had just committed yet another crime using forged $20 bills in a shop just might have somehow contributed to his untimely death.

    George Floyd lived by the sword, and died by the sword, he unfortunately paid the ultimate price for his many years of Violent crimes, and seriously anti-social lifestyle.

    The cop in question, will also pay a huge price for his part.

    There are no winners, left or right.

    Only those looters, they have done rather well out of George’s demise.

  110. By the way.

    I’m feeling pretty left out right about now?

    Colm has usually found the time to slag me off by now.

    Colm.

    You need to up your game mate.

    😉

  111. I don’t see evidence of racism on the part of the police officer at this point either

    He has a significant number of complaints against him involving alleged violence. I’d like to find out the details of those who complained also. Were they all from black people also?

    The names of two of the four police officers involved in this incident appear to be Asian. None of the media that I have hurt have mentioned this fact. Perhaps it doesn’t fit the narrative of rampaging white devil police officers killing all the black people every day

    Derek Chauvin, Thomas Lane, Tou Thao, and J Alexander Kueng.

  112. Phantom and Harri

    The direction you two are going in this discussion you will soon be holding Derek Chauvin up as a hero and victim of anti-white racism.

  113. George Floyd was no angel, he was one seriously bad motherfucker

    It shows that Floyd had a history of being a violent criminal, something that Chauvin might have known

    Hmmmm. Interesting.

    Convictions for football violence
    Assault on an off duty police officer
    Domestic violence
    Possession of cocaine
    Mortgage fraud
    Illegally entering a country

    Do these convictions make a person a bad motherfucker, a mean motherfucker or just a motherfucker?

    How should any cop being aware of these pervious convictions arrest such a person?

  114. That belongs in the Hall of Fame of cheap shots. Not the Colm that I know.

    I have never defended Chauvin, and I have been a critic of US police violence and of US prosecutors for a long time.

  115. And the Phantom who posted this paranoid comment(more worthy of Allan) below is not the one who is usually on ATW.

    None of the media that I have hurt have mentioned this fact. Perhaps it doesn’t fit the narrative of rampaging white devil police officers killing all the black people every day

  116. The direction you two are going in this discussion you will soon be holding Derek Chauvin up as a hero and victim of anti-white racism.

    Colm.

    Vodka and liberal self-righteousness, with a splash of self-loathing are not a good mix.

    It’s lovely out there.

    Go for a walk, clear you’re fuzzy head.

  117. more worthy of Allan)

    Of course, because Colm has now without doubt, and any lack of links or actual evidence, has proven Allan@ wrong on so many occasions, well, the odd snide remark now and then anyway?

    It’s mind-boggling.

    🤪

  118. This entire thing is about race, based on a narrative about white police misconduct against black victims

    But You Now think that it’s “ Unfair “ To discuss the race of all the officers?

    Well I hope that makes sense to you

  119. Colm, and other assorted liberals..

    Derek Chauvin is going to prison.

    George Floyd by some miracle is possibly going to heaven. (Which I seriously much doubt)

    Where were the riots, the liberal faux- outrage, the liberal self-righteousness, when Fusileer Lee Rigby was beheaded by two illegal Nigerians on the streets of peaceful London.

    All in the name of Allah (piss be upon him)

    ?

  120. We don’t even know if Floyd committed a crime at the scene. He may very well have, but we don’t know. His criminal background is not relevant to his murder. He was no Rosa Parks for sure, but that isn’t relevant to his death.

  121. It is wrong to call it ” murder ” at this point.

  122. Lee Rigby’s death was pretty much universally condemned. It was not however at the hands of employees of the state, and certainly not a death that was yet another death at the hands of employees of the state which inordinately involve black victims.

  123. Indeed Mahons:

    Mark D. McCoy

    Archaeologist, Assoc. Prof.

    Expert in geospatial technology. Fan of time travel.

    George Floyd and I were both arrested for allegedly spending a counterfeit $20 bill. For George Floyd, a man my age, with two kids, it was a death sentence. For me, it is a story I sometimes tell at parties. That, my friends, is White privilege.

    https://twitter.com/m_d_mccoy/status/1267503074018578438

  124. It isn’t wrong to call it murder. The police officer murdered him.

  125. How many riots have there been, particularly with Antifa attendance, when a white man has been killed by the cops?

    Precisely?

    Just who are the real racists here?

  126. I doubt that the hard left of the UK and Europe – there are more than a few of them – shed all that many tears over the murder of that fine young man.

  127. Just who are the real racists here?

    Well, there’s you, for a start…

  128. D. Mark McCoy was appointed DePauw University’s twentieth president on ..( liberal arts institutions)

    Yawn..

  129. Just who are the real racists here?

    Judging by the quantity and race of people who’ve been killed by them? My money’s on the cops.

  130. Did you cry over the killing of George Floyd Phantom?

  131. Are the two Asian cops racist also, or do they get a get out of jail card?

  132. I saw today a reported police statistic that 65 pc of all people subjected to this “neck” measure (the police actually record all such things) in Minneapolis were black, although blacks make up less than 20 pc of the population.

    It’s possible that the volume of black crime in the city somehow balances that out. But either way, it sure looks like some major disadvantage for blacks in M somewhere along the line.

  133. George Floyd was arrested, and convicted of robbing a pregnant black woman, pointing a gun at her stomach, demanding drugs and cash, before pistol whipping her into oblivion.

    I would say aGeorge is more of a racist than I am.

  134. It’s possible that the volume of black crime in the city somehow balances that out. But either way, it sure looks like some major disadvantage for blacks in M somewhere along the line.

    Blacks shooting other blacks to death in Chicago.

    I think the count was 39 or something like that, and was just the past weekend.

    The racists.

    😏

  135. Please see my comments on Floyd from Day One.

    The British hard left may have made desultory criticisms of the killing of a man who they’d view as an enemy in the first place, perhaps they did.

    And some there applauded the killing.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LmKok0c9xyY

  136. Okay.

    I will ask the question again..

    How many riots have there been, particularly with Antifa attendance, when a white man has been killed by the cops?

    Precisely?

  137. There was a completely unjustified shooting/killing of a white woman by a black Minneapolis cop not that long ago.

    No riots then.

    Didn’t fit the narrative.

    Most here wouldn’t be aware of it.

    Ah well.

  138. Imagine if a white man would have committed a crime as George Floyd did..

    Holding a gun to a black womans stomach, then proceeded to pistol whip her to oblivion?

    ATW liberals would have gone into full righteous meltdown.

  139. There was a completely unjustified shooting/killing of a white woman by a black Minneapolis cop not that long ago.
    No riots then.
    Didn’t fit the narrative.
    Most here wouldn’t be aware of it.
    Ah well.

    Precisely.

    But righteous points don’t come cheap.

  140. Please see my comments on Floyd from Day On

    I have, I’d put in the same ‘but’ qualified ‘desultory criticisms’ column that you seem to be accusing others of.

  141. How many riots have there been, particularly with Antifa attendance, when a white man has been killed by the cops?
    Precisely?

    Seamus is the oracle of ATW research.

    Maybe he can tell us?

  142. Paul

    You’re a fool and a liar.

  143. Here we go again !

  144. No Phantom, it’s you who’s the liar.

    In fact, I find you to be possibly the most dishonest person on ATW.

  145. The ATW liberals would have gone into full righteous meltdown.

    And again, here comes Harri, trotting out his tired old cliches that always get worn and worn and worn , but never seem to get worn out… 🙂

  146. Colm

    Harri loves the opportunity to go full-Gammon.

  147. Seimi.

    Fellow Gammon.

    No effect.

    Sorry to disappoint.

  148. 4 cops were shot by “Protestors” last night one in the head…..

  149. Patrick Van Roy, on June 2nd, 2020 at 5:43 PM Said:
    4 cops were shot by “Protestors” last night one in the head…..

    The liberals are on the case as we speak..

  150. Colm, on June 2nd, 2020 at 5:40 PM Said:
    The ATW liberals would have gone into full righteous meltdown.
    And again, here comes Harri, trotting out his tired old cliches that always get worn and worn and worn , but never seem to get worn out… 🙂

    Neither does wanking over Harri it seems Colm.

    😀

  151. Okay.

    Here it is again liberals..

    Harri, on June 2nd, 2020 at 5:33 PM Said:
    How many riots have there been, particularly with Antifa attendance, when a white man has been killed by the cops?
    Precisely?

    Colm.

    Put it away you mucky pup.

    Any ideas?

    I know you have plenty of ideas, but not much of a clue..but go on, have a (pun intended) bash at it?

  152. The thing is that black people are disproportionately the victims when there is an unjustified killing by the police.

  153. 4 cops were shot by “Protestors” last night one in the head…..

    I know Pat, and a shopkeeper was killed by cops who shot into a crowd in Louisville.

    That wasn’t mentioned by anyone either.

  154. Fellow Gammon.

    That’s the best you’ve got!? Schoolyard ‘No I’m not! You are!’ – type jibes??

    Have a read of the Urban Dictionary description of a gammon:

    Collective noun for white, middle-aged, furious-faced men who are heavily concentrated in the vast reaches of England’s Brexit heartlands.

    Spitting out talking points found in fascist organs like the Daily Mail (or, for those preferring something less intellectual, the Daily Express), gammon exist in a state of perpetual outrage and exasperated “I’m just an ordinary bloke, me” confusion.

    Core traits:

    – They favour Brexit. After all, it means Brexit.
    – Because the Conservative Party and the right-wing media ecosystem have told them to, they reject those things that underpin their jobs, living standards and opportunities: environmental protections, workers’ rights, regulations favouring consumers, the European Union, the single market and the customs union. These things also benefit people they don’t like (including foreigners and Guardian readers), of course, so they have to go.
    – On the off-chance that they’re aware of a border in Ireland, they don’t know anything about it.
    – They dislike multiculturalism and the ‘equality agenda’, and obsess about ‘lefties’, immigrants, Jeremy Corbyn (“Would ‘e launch a nuke?! WELL, WOULD ‘E?!”) and the fabled liberal metropolitan elite.
    – They hate Muslims, so they voted for the UK to withdraw from a free trade bloc comprising countries made up of white Christians.
    – Having spent 40 years bellyaching about the UK’s democratic decision to enter the EEC, they are now unbending guardians of its democratic decision to leave.

    https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Gammon

    I don’t think I fit anywhere in there, Harri, whereas it fits you like the paper on the wall 🙂

  155. Neither does wanking over Harri it seems Colm.

    Another rather disturbing metaphor you seem to have a particular obsession about. As evidenced by your behaviour on this same thread yesterday evening where 1 comment by me , provoked 5 in a row from you all at me.

  156. Seimi, on June 2nd, 2020 at 5:50 PM Said:
    Fellow Gammon.
    That’s the best you’ve got!? Schoolyard ‘No I’m not! You are!’ – type jibes??

    Seimi, on June 2nd, 2020 at 5:42 PM Said:
    Colm
    Harri loves the opportunity to go full-Gammon.

    😀

  157. Colm.

    How many riots have there been, particularly with Antifa attendance, when a white man has been killed by the cops?

  158. provoked 5 in a row from you all at me.

    Particularly, the last one reference full blown mental illness.

    😀

  159. Seimi.

    Yawn.

    Zzzzzzzzzzzz

  160. How many riots have there been, particularly with Antifa attendance, when a white man has been killed by the cops?

    I don’t know H. How many white men have been killed by cops for passing dud $20 notes?

  161. Yawn.

    Zzzzzzzzzzzz

    Another winner from the one-trick pony stable.

  162. Gotta give Harri his due. He certainly plays his role as ATWs resident Gobby Gammon rent a quote merchant with full vigour !

  163. Are angry middle-aged white men commenting angry posts day in and day out on Trump..Gammons?

    And let’s not forget about the constant angry posts (oh those chains) about those pesky, nasty British..Gammons?

    😉

  164. Colm, on June 2nd, 2020 at 6:06 PM Said:
    Gotta give Harri his due. He certainly plays his role as ATWs resident Gobby Gammon rent a quote merchant with full vigour !

    Says an ATW hideously white Gammon

    😀

  165. Phantom seems to be away at the minute, so Harri is waiting for Pete M or Allan@ to arrive. He needs someone from behind whose skirts he can snipe and bark 🙂

  166. Are angry middle-aged white men commenting angry posts day in and day out on Trump..Gammons?

    And let’s not forget about the constant angry posts (oh those chains) about those pesky, nasty British..Gammons?

    In a word – no.

  167. I don’t know H.

    Yes you do.

    It’s…zero.

    Why?

    All lives matter.

    Unless you are a raging racist that is.

    So.

    Can any liberal on ATW point to any riots and mass looting, and attended by the terrorist group Antifa where a cop has killed a white man?

  168. Seimi, on June 2nd, 2020 at 6:09 PM Said:
    Phantom seems to be away at the minute, so Harri is waiting for Pete M or Allan@ to arrive. He needs someone from behind whose skirts he can snipe and bark 🙂

    Huh?

    Seimi.

    You have a lot to say..

    How many riots have there been, particularly with Antifa attendance, when a white man has been killed by the cops?

    ?

    No worries, Colm the ATW village idiot will be along soon to throw out the odd unfunny schoolyard double entendres or..something.

    Colm, is about as funny as face cancer or a broken leg, or worse.. Jo Bland.

  169. Right, can one of the Americans (a white American, obviously!) go and get themselves killed by the cops, please?
    Meanwhile, Paul will contact Antifa HQ on their number (1800-killthefascists), and me, Colm, Dave, Noel and all the other ‘liberals’ will divide up the looting and rioting between us.

    I fear it’s the only way to get Hobby-Horse Harri to stop asking the same question!

  170. https://amgreatness.com/2020/06/02/police-chief-protesters-set-fire-to-home-with-child-inside/

  171. In a word – no.

    Why?

    You are hideously white, middle aged, and angry?

    Being Irish, and a nationalist, you are possibly even more white and angry than I am?

    Oh. Those British chains, even after 300 odd years…can we never be rid of them?

    😏

    Yes you can be rid of us, shut the fuck up going on about it for a start.

    Not only are you a Gammon, but a Gammon with a seriously large chip on your shoulder, (no, I didn’t intend to mention potatoes)

    I don’t want to start you off in one again..

    😀

    Allan@..Pete…help..help.

    😁

    By the way, it’s interesting to know you mention Allan@ or Pete.

    They don’t bother you …do they?

  172. Seimi

    You’ll never stop Harri asking the same repetitive “whatabout” questions, or repeating the same “witty phrases”. You’d have more luck asking the sun not to rise in the morning !

  173. Right, can one of the Americans (a white American, obviously!) go and get themselves killed by the cops, please?

    Piss poor response, doesn’t even come close.

    It’s all so terribly sad.

  174. No worries, Colm the ATW village idiot will be along soon to throw out the odd unfunny schoolyard double entendres or..something.

    Colm, on June 2nd, 2020 at 6:25 PM Said:
    Seimi
    You’ll never stop Harri asking the same repetitive “whatabout” questions, or repeating the same “witty phrases”. You’d have more luck asking the sun not to rise in the morning !

    Told you so..

    😁

  175. repeating the same “witty phrases

    “Hideously white.”

    “It’s all so terribly sad.”

    Yeah, I see what you mean, Colm.

    They don’t bother you …do they?

    Bother me? Nobody here bothers me. Do you think you bother me, Harri? Don’t flatter yourself. Your repetitious, blinkered monologue of racist Gammonry is slightly irritating at times, but you don’t bother me.

  176. I don’t know H.

    Yes you do.

    It’s…zero.

    Okay, let’s take that at face value, Now answer mine:

    How many white men have been killed by cops for passing dud $20 notes?

    BTW, you recently commented on the ‘antifa’ Twitter account ‘ANTIFA_US’ being closed down:

    https://thehill.com/policy/technology/500608-twitter-takes-down-fake-antifa-account-linked-to-white-nationalist-group

  177. Anyway.

    Back to George..

    Black Nike’s matter..

    https://twitter.com/DVATW/status/1267174018865606658

  178. Harri’s the little wind up toy that everyone has the key to. You just turn it a couple of times and off he goes ..waving his mechanical arms and legs furiously, mouth opening and shutting spouting the same taped phrases until the key stops turning , the tape gets stuck and he falls off the table… 🙂

  179. Bother me? Nobody here bothers me.

    Really?

    Why did you leave for a while?

    Nobody..huh!

  180. No worries, Colm the ATW village idiot will be along soon to throw out the odd unfunny schoolyard double entendres or..something.

    Told you so..once an idiot..and all that..

    Colm, on June 2nd, 2020 at 6:40 PM Said:
    Harri’s the little wind up toy that everyone has the key to. You just turn it a couple of times and off he goes ..waving his mechanical arms and legs furiously, mouth opening and shutting spouting the same taped phrases until the key stops turning , the tape gets stuck and he falls off the table… 🙂

  181. Harri

    I think its time you went back into your box. We’ll let you out again tomorrow some time when we want to have a bit of fun.. 🙂

  182. Bother me? Nobody here bothers me. Do you think you bother me, Harri? Don’t flatter yourself. Your repetitious, blinkered monologue of racist Gammonry is slightly irritating at times, but you don’t bother me

    Good, it’s better to get along together.

    Fellow Gammon..

    😉

  183. No worries, Colm the ATW village idiot will be along soon to throw out the odd unfunny schoolyard double entendres or..something.

    Colm, on June 2nd, 2020 at 6:45 PM Said:
    Harri
    I think its time you went back into your box. We’ll let you out again tomorrow

    Colm. You truly are a weapons grade idiot.

    But a likeable weapons grade idiot anyway.

    😏

  184. Harri, on June 2nd, 2020 at 6:42 PM Said:
    Bother me? Nobody here bothers me.
    Really?

    What…

    Not even New Yorker?

  185. H, you asked:

    ‘how many riots have there been, particularly with Antifa attendance, when a white man has been killed by the cops?’

    And I said I don’t know and asked you:

    ‘How many white men have been killed by cops for passing dud $20 notes?’

    Isn’t it a bit unscrupulous trying to compare an effect when you have no comparable cause?

  186. How many white men have been killed by cops for passing dud $20 notes?’

    Clever..

    “How many white men have been killed by cops”?

  187. Except it didn’t say that at all H. You don’t want to answer?

    As I say, it’s a bit unsporting trying to compare effect when you have no analogous cause?

  188. Paul

    You expect Harri to understand the word analogous ?

    …. Harri quickly Googles it and then comes back all clever and stuff 🙂

  189. How many white men have been killed by cops for passing dud $20 notes?’

    By the sheer chance of coincidence.

    None I should think.

    Now.

    how many riots have there been, particularly with Antifa attendance, when a white man has been killed by the cops?’

    Paul.

    How many white men have been convicted of holding a gun to a pregnant. black woman’s stomach, demanding cash and drugs prior to beating her and pistol whipping her?

  190. No worries, Colm the ATW village idiot will be along soon to throw out the odd unfunny schoolyard double entendres or..something.

    Told you so, once a weapons grade idiot, always a weapons grade idiot.

    At least Paul has addressed the question..sort of.

    Colm, hasn’t even got the intellect to do that.

    Colm, on June 2nd, 2020 at 7:10 PM Said:
    Paul
    You expect Harri to understand the word analogous ?
    …. Harri quickly Googles it and then comes back all clever and stuff 🙂

    Colm.

    Stop.

    What part of, you ain’t big, and you definitely ain’t clever..do you not get you fucking village idiot?

    😏

  191. Harri

    I left for a while because untrue allegations of a serious nature were made about me. I felt that the management of the site, with one notable exception, did not deal with the potentially dangerous (for me) allegations satisfactorily.
    New Yorker, other than making untrue, unfounded, dangerous allegations about me, does not bother me. He is a liar and a fantasist. But he doesn’t bother me. Okay?

    Now, let’s look at why you left.

    “Which time?” I hear the ATW regulars cry, because you, Harri, have left on a number of occasions.

    Most recently, you spat out the dummy and said you were leaving, ‘never to return’, because someone, possibly Jude, made you cry or something. You were back within 24-48 hours.

    Another time you did something similar, I think again because Jude made you wet your pants, albeit he was operating under another name at the time.

    But the one that stands out, the exit to beat all exits, was when you announced you were leaving (again, never to return) because your wife told you to. You stayed away that time for more than a year, if I recall.

    Does she know you’re on here now? Or do you sneak off, like a teenager searching for porn when his parents are in bed?

    You’d better hope she doesn’t catch you, Harri. She might take away your BBC priviliges (she does pay for it, after all.

    Now, be a good boy, and like Colm said, we’ll play with you later.

  192. None I should think

    So why attempt to compare the effect when there is no comparative cause?

    How many white men have been convicted of holding a gun to a pregnant. black woman’s stomach, demanding cash and drugs prior to beating her and pistol whipping her?

    Non that I’m aware of. Why?

  193. Oh my God Seimi, you are going to make Harri’s head explode… or am I now falling into Harri cliche territory.

    Its so easy 🙂

  194. Colm.

    Oh, it’s all so terrible.

    😉

    I’m in full meltdown..

    😁

    Colm.

    I am everything you despise, white, don’t live in the arse end of London in social housing..

    And English…

    Shudder..

  195. New Yorker, other than making untrue, unfounded, dangerous allegations about me, does not bother me. He is a liar and a fantasist. But he doesn’t bother me. Okay?

    New Yorker obviously “bothered” you.

    I personally welcomed you back. And still do

    But, if you give out shit on ATW, you are most certainly going to get it back.

    Colm on the other hand is like the crazy uncle or aunt (in Coll’s case) an itch you just can’t scratch.

    You know they are as mad as a box of frogs, they know they are as mad as a box of frogs.

    But ATW is a family, a fairly fucked up family granted.. but tolerance is required at times..

    Even in Coll’s case.

    Like I said previously, Colm is a very likeable chap,

    A weapons grade village idiot..yes, but likeable all the same.

    No offence Colm.

    😉

    I have loads of tolerance , and patience.

    The problem is it lasts for about three seconds.

  196. or am I now falling into Harri cliche territory.
    Its so easy 🙂

    Colm.

    With all due respect. You couldn’t fall into a crack in the pavement easily.

  197. Bother me? Nobody here bothers me.
    Really?

    Unless you mention the wee green book.

    Then, I am off, whinging and whining like a bitch.

    Methinks you flatter yourself far too much.

    The end result, as expected..

    No one actually gives a fuck

    Welcome back Seimi.

    .

  198. Harri
    your glib, arseholey comment above merely highlights how little you know of NI. What is does show though is that I touched a nerve with my last comment, and you’re now trying to have a snidey go at me.

  199. Many here will be familiar with the Guardian Angels Civilian anti-crime patrol, which has existed in New York City and other places since 1979.

    Last night, Curtis Sliwa, the 66-year-old leader of the Angels And his men took on a much larger mob of looters In lower Manhattan. Mr. Sliwa Had his jaw broken with a hammer; One of his men lost sight in one eye
    They lost this battle, but they fought bravely,. I give them maximum credit.

    https://abc7ny.com/guardian-angels-curtis-sliwa-aram-sabet-nyc-curfew/6229476/

    Sliwa despises this mayor and governor. He says that the Blasio does not have the backs of the police force, And he’s right about that.

    I hope that he and his men heal. Sliwa I am sure will be back out on the street soon. Maybe even tonight.

  200. What should the governor and mayor do differently to “have the backs of the police force”?