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FAIR QUESTIONS

By Pete Moore On June 3rd, 2020

And we know that the answers are “no, no, no, no I can’t hear you.” David Dorn was murdered because an urban primitive wanted to steal a TV. His name won’t ring out. No protests will be held in his memory. No celebs will proudly fund looters, criminals and terrorists. In fact social media will try to bury his name. Because his death cannot be rudely exploited for political and economic gain.

 

38 Responses to “FAIR QUESTIONS”

  1. His death has been noted. The reason there won’t be protests is because his death was at the hands of rioters and not state actors. Whoever killed him must be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law.

  2. So no need to protest against violence by ( any ) political actors or common criminals then?

  3. Organize your March if you wantfor this man. Somehow I think you wont. The point of the protest is the killing by government employees, it is a distinction that explains the protest.

  4. no it does not…..

    The protest are exploitation of the false narrative these idiots have been fed their whole lives.

    The numbers don’t match the rhetoric every year there are over 10 million interactions between police and civilians avg fatal interaction 800 a year, abg white deaths 300, avg black 175.

    yet it’s systemic racism….. it’s bull no matter how you slice it, but it’s the narrative.

  5. PaTroll

    Whether George Floyd had been Black or White, the sight of a non-resistant man being pinned to the ground by a police knee on his neck, until he died, should provoke a protest from citizens of the state which employs such officers, yes?

  6. You are not taking into account the percentage of the population. The rate of Black deaths at police hands occur far more frequently.

  7. Government employees – police – are ‘taking the knee’ all over the US and joining the demonstrators, as are the weakest whites who are prostrating themselves before blacks:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=14&v=fdX6aVzPgHs&feature=emb_logo

    White people kneel, ask forgiveness from the black community in Third Ward
    83,253 views
    •May 31, 2020

    It’s in Houston, and it’s absolutely craven

  8. The rate of Black deaths at police hands occur far more frequently.

    Yeah – and the blacks dindunuffin. How many police officers are killed by blacks and how does this compare to the rate of officers killed by whites?

  9. Allan – what not banging on about the Deep State and their attempts to control everyone? I suppose your shift supporting the state comes when the issue is race. You are a laughable jackass.

  10. Blacks commit violent crimes at a much higher rate than any other group

    You can’t talk about the rate Of police violence against ethnicities if you’re not aware of that

  11. I’m not only aware of it I know there is an economic factor in that. So I can talk about it.

  12. Mahons, on June 4th, 2020 at 12:04 AM Said:
    You are not taking into account the percentage of the population. The rate of Black deaths at police hands occur far more frequently.

    Percentages my ass. Over 10 million interaction less than 1000 deaths and almost always double the amount of whites killed.

    Twist your percentages all you want, those are facts that make any you can spin laughable.

  13. You are as good in math as you are in spelling.

  14. Seimi, on June 4th, 2020 at 12:02 AM Said:
    PaTroll

    Whether George Floyd had been Black or White, the sight of a non-resistant man being pinned to the ground by a police knee on his neck, until he died, should provoke a protest from citizens of the state which employs such officers, yes?

    YES and PROSECUTION of the Officer.

  15. Mahons, on June 4th, 2020 at 1:32 AM Said:
    You are as good in math as you are in spelling.

    excuse me…….

    10 million, only 1000 deaths and and avg of 300 white, 175 black…..

    But in that you see systemic racism……. thank god you’re not a criminal lawyer….

  16. g’night…..

  17. Thank God you aren’t a police officer.

  18. Although I never accepted the “all US police are racist” BS, I did swallow the line that blacks were more likely to end up dead in police encounters than white. This might be true per head of population but not by the more meaningful stats of per police encounter. Amongst those who have a police encounter whites are more likely to end up dead.

    The racism thing has been repeated over and over again. Whilst I would not be surprised if it was established that race was a motivation for the actions of the officer concerned, it is pathetic that so many seem to have just made this assumption. Even more worrying when I see UK police officers repeating this. What does it tell us about how they operate as police?

    I have no problem with people calling for justice regarding George Floyd’s death but the making a thing of him as some sort of hero is awful. I don’t call for justice for George Floyd but justice for the people of the US in relation to the death of George Floyd. Thoughts are with the victims of George Floyd as there are very few sparing them any thoughts. Those black lives matter too.

    https://twitter.com/RealCandaceO/status/1268280610818101248

    Thought that this was interesting. I would point out that it is not just blacks who are making out Floyd as a hero (and clearly not all blacks) there are lots of idiot white people doing the same (and almost certainly from other racial groups too).

  19. Aileen,

    “I did swallow the line that blacks were more likely to end up dead in police encounters than white. This might be true per head of population but not by the more meaningful stats of per police encounter.”

    This is only a more meaningful stat if encounters are reported accurately, and if blacks do not systematically have more encounters with police than whites. Neither of which are likely to be true in any systemically racist state. And so it begs the question.

    In fact we pretty much know that blacks are disproportionately likely to have encounters with the police (regardless what we think the explanation is) and so we know the “deaths per encounter” stat is necessarily diluted by basic mathematics. And so it’s like asking blacks to be thankful that they get killed in less encounters than whites when many of those “encounters” are them being thrown up against the wall and frisked 100 times a day.

    ” Amongst those who have a police encounter whites are more likely to end up dead.”

    And blacks who die in such encounters are 2.5x more likely to be unarmed.

    Black men are also 2.5x more likely to die at the hands of the police during their lifetime than are whites (a similar but smaller difference exists for women).

    https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-019-02601-9

  20. Nail hit squarely on head.

    https://twitter.com/bottyy/status/1267950438978068480?s=20

  21. If you commit more crimes than anybody else, you’re gonna have more unpleasant encounters with the police than anybody else.

    That shouldn’t be glossed over, but It always is.

    I want to keep the police accountable, but let’s keep everybody accountable when we’re at it?

  22. Nail hit squarely on head.

    https://twitter.com/bottyy/status/1267950438978068480?s=20

    Yes, but I was genuinely wondering what language he was speaking at first.

  23. “I want to keep the police accountable, but let’s keep everybody accountable when we’re at it?”

    That’s fine. But keeping all black people accountable for the actions of some black people is appalling, and frankly racist. The overwhelming majority of black people don’t commit crimes. Yet they are constantly profiled as potential criminals.

  24. Phantom,

    “If you commit more crimes than anybody else, you’re gonna have more unpleasant encounters with the police than anybody else.”

    And also even if you don’t (if the police are systemically racist – which is what you’re supposed to be using the stats to figure out)

    That a black man killed by the cops is 2.5x more likely to be unarmed is hard to explain away with other stats though.

  25. It’s going well then?

    The solidarity amongst comrade far-left anarchists, might need working on..

    $89 now – target $50,000

    SAMANTHA & DARIAN SHADER Legal Support Fund❤️

    https://www.gofundme.com/f/samantha-shader-relief-fund

  26. Come on boys

    You have short arms and deep pockets? You can’t take it with you. What better cause there than this.

    Step up for Shader! Contribute!

    For the new Che Guaveras!!

  27. Those BLM ‘protesters’ could always sell some of that looted stuff to there local pawn shop they burnt to the ground, and donate the cash to help one of their sisters?

    Or…maybe not.

  28. Harri and Phantom

    I am going to set you both up with the Shader sisters. Its obvious you are both desperate to , how shall I put it – break social distancing rules with them – I imagine you are both already having ‘happy’ dreams about them every night 🙂

  29. Colm.

    The Shader “sistas” I would say to be fair to them, would not be interested.

    We are far too white.

    Innit..

  30. They might make an exception for you and Phantom, seeing what fantastic publicity agents you are for them 🙂

  31. Colm.

    In fact Phantom and I adore them so much, we are going to donate the total amount of….zero Cents for the “sistas”

  32. Colm, on June 4th, 2020 at 7:36 PM Said:
    They might make an exception for you and Phantom, seeing what fantastic publicity agents you are for them 🙂

    $89 is not fantastic, it’s simply not working.

    Phantom and I need to put more effort into it.

    Colm.

    Thanks for the tip.

    😁

  33. Harri

    I have already told you – I paid the outstanding balance so they could get bail and run into the arms of their 2 adoring admirers 🙂

  34. Pure Evil: Rioters lit house on fire that had child inside – then blocked firefighters.

    RICHMOND, VA – It’s not often you see a police chief break down in tears. But that was exactly what happened in Virginia on Sunday.

    The Richmond Police Chief held a press conference in which he told the media that Black Lives Matter and antifa rioters set fire to a multi-family home.

    That house had children inside.

    “One incident that is particularly poignant, that truly illustrates the seriousness of the issues we’re facing,” Chief Will Smith told reporters.

    “Protesters intentionally set fire to an occupied building on [West] Broad Street. This is not the only occupied building that has been set fire to in the last two days.”

    Then they blocked access for the firefighters who were rushing out to save the children.

    “They prohibited us from getting on scene,” the police chief continued. “We had to force our way to make a clear path for the fire department.”

    Thank God officers found a way into the building and were able to save the child and the rest of the family.

    “Officers were able to,” Smith said, with his voice overcome with emotion, “help those people out of the house.”

    We also brought you another heartbreaking scene out of Austin this weekend, also at the hands of Antifa.

    https://www.lawenforcementtoday.com/rioters-lit-house-on-fire-that-had-child-inside-then-blocked-firefighters/

  35. And on lawenforcementtoday.com, no less!

  36. H, I’ve just watched that video of Richmond Police Chief press conference and he makes no mention of ‘Black Lives Matter and antifa rioters’ in it.

    Is that ‘Law Enforcement Today’ site officially connected to the police at any level? How did you come across it?

  37. Frank
    I was going to add about blacks having more encounters with police than white as before I thought about it, might have qualified my point but actually it amplifies it. (What part racism may play in why the relative nos of encounters is as it is, is another matter)

    “And blacks who die in such encounters are 2.5x more likely to be unarmed.”
    My comment was mainly about the irrelevancy of the stats of deaths at the hands of police per head of population as opposed to per police encounter when the former is trotted out as being relevant. I was aware that there are a lot more factors that would be relevant and yes that is one of them. As of course is the race of the officer (if you are considering racial motives for the killing).

    On a tangential note I am horrified that so many are just assuming that the death of George Floyd was racially motivated. I would not be surprised if it did indeed turn out to be the case but why, if people are so concerned about racism, have they not bothered to establish that this was indeed the case. Bad enough for people just blethering on social media in their spare time but when you see senior police officers trotting it out too, I find very sinister.

    Black men are also 2.5x more likely to die at the hands of the police during their lifetime than are whites (a similar but

  38. Question..

    What will society ultimately become, when the police, cops and authorities are so scared witless of even approaching any black person for fear of poisonous political correctness, no matter what crime they might have committed?

    America for example will become one giant Chicago, and the U.K. will become one large South London.