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Mattis Speaks

By Phantom On June 4th, 2020

Yesterday, in The Atlantic, retired USMC General and former Secretary of State lowered the boom on Trump.

To me, the criticism that resonated most was actually one that I have repeatedly made on these pages. That in Trump we have a president who has never sought to unite the American people, but who has always sought to divide them. for his personal purposes.

“Donald Trump is the first president in my lifetime who does not try to unite the American people—does not even pretend to try. Instead, he tries to divide us,” Mattis writes. “We are witnessing the consequences of three years of this deliberate effort. We are witnessing the consequences of three years without mature leadership. We can unite without him, drawing on the strengths inherent in our civil society.

There is direct criticism of Trump’s use of the military to clear peaceful protesters, of the president’s talk of bringing in active duty troops to quell protests, perhaps both the peaceful and the riotous, from our cities.

Combat troops are hard men who are particularly unsuitable in temperament to deal with crowds of uncooperative civilians, some of whom will try to provoke them. Mattis knows this, Trump does not. You don’t want a Bloody Sunday or Tiananmen Square in this country.

An additional sharp sting is Mattis’ statement that we have been without ” mature leadership “.

Personal dememeanor, bearing is everything to a good military officer. And we saw no better example of an officer/retired officer’s comportment than we have seen in General Mattis. It has likely pained him to see the scatterbrained meanness, the lack of any manly dignity, the every day placing of ego and self over country that we have seen for three years.

Trump is already at it, saying that Mattis was an overrated general. This whopper, no one will believe. Tell it to the marines.

90 Responses to “Mattis Speaks”

  1. Can anyone think of a more polarising leader?

    Personally, I think he is unhinged.

    But, what does that say about US voters? He seems to engender favourite sports team, or stated religious like support. It seems like blind faith where supporters will find a way to justify backing him.

    That this man is even being considered as a serious contender for November is mind boggling, some voters are not only drinking the cool aid, they are asking for seconds. Entirely baffling.

  2. Good post, Phantom. If the US has more Trumps, it’s ruined; more Mattis and it’s saved.

    Trump, like so many of his devotees, seems to think “the base” is all that matters, keep them on side and you’ve won the election. Fortunately, they are wrong. Although after over 3 years of the most dismal stupidity, probably the most cringe-worthy speeches in history and abasement of his office, it’s astounding that he still gets the support he has.

  3. Piers Morgan just had a very entertaining shootout with Rudy Giuliani on ITV. The latter really is losing it.

    https://twitter.com/Haggis_UK/status/1268420736592613376

  4. Trump is already at it, saying that Mattis was an overrated general.

    Obviously drawing on his experiences of the Vietnam War and extensive impeccable military pedigree to form such a conclusion.

    I used to think that Trump was a strong probable for a second term but that’s now changed to a possible. Surely not all those who supported him are cultists who lap this insanity up?

  5. Mattis releases a tendentious and inflammatory letter bashing Trump. The basis of his criticism is that Trump is using the military to trample the rights of Americans. He also blasts Trump’s “bizarre photo op” at St. Paul’s church, which allegedly was possible only after tear gassing of peaceful protestors between the church and the White House. Mattis does not say that specifically, but it can be inferred as there is no other possible violations of civil rights involved in that episode.

    That claim is based on a lie. It is now known there was no tear gas. There was no use of flash grenades. Those in the area were not uniformly peaceful: some were lobbing dangerous objects.

    It is despicable that Mattis would base his allegation on a lie. Particularly given that the facts were known at the time he released the statement.

    But then again, given that he was on the board of Theranos, perhaps the general can be a credulous fool who believes what he wants to believe. He is therefore responsible for the lie.

    As for the photo op. A national treasure had been the target of arsonists. The White House had been besieged. Numerous building in the nation’s capital had been looted and burned. Great monuments – such as the Lincoln Memorial – had been defaced. American cities are in flames. Looters are rampaging from sea to shining sea.

    Presidents always–always–make public appearances to such scenes: when they don’t, they are savaged in the press (vide : Bush’s belated visit to New Orleans). In Trump’s case, it is important to demonstrate that the nation will not surrender to vandals and thugs, and that precious national symbols will be defended and preserved.

    Mattis accuses Trump of overreacting to the situation. But Mattis’ words appear delusional to anyone who has been sentient over the past days. (Biden is excused boots):

    “We must not be distracted by a small number of lawbreakers. The protests are defined by tens of thousands of people of conscience who are insisting that we live up to our values—our values as people and our values as a nation”

    A “small number of lawbreakers”? To speak in language that Mattis understands–and uses: are you fucking kidding me?. That “small number” is pretty efficient, given that they’ve wrecked not only swaths of DC, but Manhattan, Chicago, Philadelphia, Minneapolis, and many other cities. This minimization of the scale of the destruction and lawlessness, and confabulation of peaceful protestors with a rampaging mob, is appalling.

    Mattis says that keeping order is the job of governors and mayors. Agreed! But when governors and mayors utterly fail in that job–yeah, I’m looking at you BillydiBolshevik, but not just you – what is the president supposed to do? Say, “oh well, not my job!”?

    Mattis’ lies and delusions don’t end there. He upchucks the standard Democratic/leftist propaganda:

    “Donald Trump is the first president in my lifetime who does not try to unite the American people—does not even pretend to try. Instead he tries to divide us. We are witnessing the consequences of three years of this deliberate effort. We are witnessing the consequences of three years without mature leadership”

    Well, I must have missed the part where everyone in the US was holding hands and singing Kumbaya prior to 8 November, 2016. Perhaps I fell asleep prior to Hillary’s un-coronation

    And as for Trump being the “first president in my lifetime who does not try to unite the American people.” Again: are you fucking kidding me, General? Obama was(and is) extraordinarily divisive – and deliberately so. Remember “bitter clingers”? His invocation of The Untouchables?: “If they bring knives, we will use guns.” It was in all the papers. The man was an Alinsky acolyte–and Bill Ayers acolyte – & ALL about division. His very divisiveness made the election of Trump possible.

    I also note that Mattis was alive when LBJ and Nixon were president. Nah, they weren’t divisive at all. No sir.

    As for our sacred Constitutional rights, perhaps General Mattis has not been paying attention to the cascade of revelations about Obama’s trampling of the rights of people like, oh, I don’t know, Mattis’ former confrere, General Michael Flynn.

    Further, what is Mattis doing other than promoting division? He is feeding it. Throwing gasoline on an already raging fire.

    All in all, an utterly despicable performance by a man whom most considered honourable, He’s made a tendentious political statement built on a foundation of lies. Not a single lie. Multiple lies.

    As a substantive matter, if Mattis really has reservations about invoking the Insurrection Act, I do as well.Any thinking person would. But conditions of insurrection indisputably exist around the country. If governors and mayors fail – deliberately- to deal with insurrection, what is to be done? Instead of saying what you won’t do, General, why don’t you tell us what you would do. Rather than engaging in throwing red meat to the Blue State mob, why don’t you make a principled case for alternative measures. And preferably do so in private.

    Oh, but I guess that would require an honest acknowledgement of the reality of the situation, which we’ve already seen you are incapable or unwilling of doing.

  6. That claim is based on a lie. It is now known there was no tear gas. There was no use of flash grenades.

    So says the White House. How ever video footage, never mind the recovery by the press of one of the cannisters fired, proves the White House was lying about that.

  7. PaTroll
    I apologise for any time I have said or thought that you were the most blinkered, gullible, naive Trumper lapdog on the planet. You are a mere padwan to djaym’s Jedi master.

  8. Multiple former senior military commanders have condemned the misuse of the military in clearing peaceful Protesters from Lafayette Square. Administration officials said that the protesters were violent, which is a lie.

    In his tweet, the president says that he gave Mattis the nickname “ Mad dog “ , also a lie. General Mattis had that nickname For years before meeting Trump; and Mattis never even liked it

  9. djaym is one of our more mysterious commenters who never really takes part in discussions but only ever pops in now and then to virtually always and only post a single pro Trump defence comment. I may be wrong but the one he posts above has the look and feel that it was copied and pasted from a newspaper or online article written by someone else as opposed to being an ad hoc written comment.

  10. Colm,
    perhaps it was djaym who wrote the original article? 🙂

  11. Isn’t the government ordering the military to disperse the civilian population exercising their constitutional rights pretty much what all those right wing militia nuts have all those mountains of big scary looking guns for?

  12. I’ve been waiting for days now for PaTroll to declare his intentions, sign his name, and get stuck into the authorities.

  13. Colm,
    perhaps it was djaym who wrote the original article? 🙂

    MMmmmm I’m saying nothing 🙂

  14. Here you are, Colm, all word for word.

    https://streetwiseprofessor.com/

    Strange that this is the only post under the web address. It’s probably change soon.

  15. If someone else write your entire comment for you, it is only polite to give them credit.

    These guys are exceptionally skilled at the cut and paste command

  16. Thanks Noel – yes I agree with Phantom. Unless Djaym is the streetwise professor he should have made clear he was linking to someone else’s work.

  17. Mattis was instrumental in homosexualising the US military and thus ending its threat to the wider world so, to that extent one should be thankful to him. But the imposition of the Insurrection Act needs fuel, and the police are providing the fuel:

    https://twitter.com/Cocochaneladair/status/1268371740448534529

    Chanel Adair
    @Cocochaneladair
    ·
    2 Jun
    Replying to
    @CNN
    You need to address this!!! Cops are purposely planting bricks at protests and have been caught at multiple protests around the nations doing this! #DefundThePolice #CorruptCops #AgentProvocateurs

    https://twitter.com/NYPDShea/status/1268187062001455111

    Commissioner Shea
    @NYPDShea
    This is what our cops are up against: Organized looters, strategically placing caches of bricks & rocks at locations throughout NYC.

    OK – the police commissioner shows piles of bricks ready for use in downtown locations, but who put them there?

    David Gorski, MD, PhD
    @gorskon
    ·
    19h
    Replying to
    @NYPDShea
    NYC has one of the most extensive networks of surveillance cameras in the world. Show us the video of who left those bricks there. There’s a high probability that such video exists.

    Shane Baxterson
    @SBaxterson
    ·
    21h
    Replying to
    @NYPDShea
    I guarantee you the security camera across the street at Dunkin’ would show you NYPD planting those

    Those who doubt that the ‘authorities’ could be creating trouble are the same people who were hopelessly duped on the Corona-hoax, and shall be again, and again….

  18. Poor Allan.

  19. It is believed that the bricks were part of construction waste dumped by a shady small contractor that didn’t want to pay for proper disposal

  20. This is the topic of the day nationally for the conspiracy guys.

    Bricks are often left by the read or near it on construction sites. Maybe Allan has never seen a construction site.

    I’ve seen them here all my life when construction is done.

    https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/craigsilverman/investigating-bricks-at-protests

  21. Something is happening in our world. The masses of people are rising up. And wherever they are assembled today, whether they are in Johannesburg, South Africa; Nairobi, Kenya; Accra, Ghana; New York City; Atlanta, Georgia; Jackson, Mississippi; or Memphis, Tennessee — the cry is always the same: “We want to be free.”

    All we say to America is, “Be true to what you said on paper.” If I lived in China or even Russia, or any totalitarian country, maybe I could understand some of these illegal injunctions. Maybe I could understand the denial of certain basic First Amendment privileges, because they hadn’t committed themselves to that over there. But somewhere I read of the freedom of assembly. Somewhere I read of the freedom of speech. Somewhere I read of the freedom of press. Somewhere I read that the greatness of America is the right to protest for right. And so just as I say, we aren’t going to let dogs or water hoses turn us around, we aren’t going to let any injunction turn us around. We are going on.

    As true today as it was in 1968.

  22. Phantom, on June 4th, 2020 at 12:45 PM Said:

    It is believed that the bricks were part of construction waste dumped by a shady small contractor that didn’t want to pay for proper disposal

    Phantom – as one of the ‘Covid-believers’, you shall be hoaxed, hoaxed, and hoaxed again, to paraphrase Hugh Gaitskell. These piles of bricks are being left at locations far from construction sites (which you’ve never worked on) by police and their sub-contractors (antifa and other posh soy-groups)

    https://twitter.com/Breaking911/status/1267322205857333249

    Anon
    @Anon49459700
    ·
    1 Jun
    Replying to
    @Breaking911
    Street cameras know exactly how the bricks got there and who is using the bricks. Those cameras don’t lie.

    The Flexican
    @scccage
    ·
    1 Jun
    Replying to
    @Breaking911
    We need to see security footage & see who’s planting them.

    No construction going on, yet there are the piles of bricks in downtown hot-spots

    https://twitter.com/Joseph7Mora8/status/1268288896804122627/photo/1

  23. “These piles of bricks are being left at locations far from construction sites”

    Yeah because if it was a contractor fly tipping he’d dump them near his site.

  24. Every neighborhood in NYC has some new construction or major renovation going on at any time.

    There was a ( peaceful, orderly ) march that went one block from where I live, and there are a few construction / renovation jobs within a ten minute walk from me.

    You’re nuts.

  25. Bricks are now being woven into the sprawling QAnon conspiracy theory. Some QAnon followers have baselessly claimed the bricks are from a company owned by billionaire investor Warren Buffett, and that they have ties to Bill Gates and other powerful figures.

    Not a lot more needs to be said on the above motivation then.

    What’s a ‘posh soy group?’

  26. I have always tried to study the ways of leadership, including military leadership, and have long been an admirer of General Mattis.

    If a guy like this says that you’re no good, chances are that you’re no good.

    The noise machine will have a really hard time saying that Mattis is any sort of bad guy. But they will do it. Because that’s what they do.

    Thank you for your continued service, General Mattis.

  27. Good post phantom.

  28. The audacity of Trump describing Mattis as ‘an overrated general’ really is breathtaking. In which terms of expertise is he speaking?

    What we’d call a ‘brass neck’ back home. What manner of person turns a blind eye t such fraudulent shamelessness?

  29. It will be interesting to hear Patrick’s take on this post. Will he take the djaym route 🙂

  30. Colm
    Perhaps he’ll be annoyed at djyam stealing his article and not crediting him?

  31. That article was too subtle in its praise and defence of Trump to be Patrick’s 🙂

  32. My old Dad taught me to “always shake the hand of a Marine.” Why Dad? “Because they’re 10% of the fighting force and take half the casualties! So I always have.

    So I honour General Mathis and what he has to say as serious business.

    One thing though. Trump has kept us out of war. He is less divisive than LBJ or Nixon IMHO.

  33. From the spin machine.

    Please look at some of the comments.

    https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/06/03/glad-hes-gone-donald-trump-calls-gen-jim-mattis-worlds-most-overrated-general/

    Charles

    Some of the non Americans may not realize how loved the military are here, especially the young men and women who serve.

    It is very bipartisan, this love and respect, and it cuts across all ethnic / age groups and geographies.

    I think that this was part of what so deeply offended Mattis, and other former commanders, the misuse of troops as part of an unnecessary unwise and divisive stunt against Americans who were peaceably assembling. It was not only ” liberals” or ” the left ” who opposed that.

    I am all for the use of force or the threat of it where necessary. It was not at all necessary here.

    And the nonviolent protesters in America are not our ” enemy “, they do not need to be ” dominated “. We need to listen to them, while at the same time doing what needs to be done to neutralize all violent protesters or common criminals. We can walk and chew gum on this one. And we don’t need military troops on civilian streets to do it, either.

  34. Christ, the biggest boaster and egomaniac in history says that Mattis’ sole talent as a general was “personal public relations” (Phantom’s link).

  35. Noel

    Why are we surprised ? Its what Trump has done throughout his presidency, both with his appointees and even with foreign politicians he befriends and hen falls out with. One minute someone is a “Brilliant clever fantastic great friend and huge talent” when he hires them and then if they dare to show a streak of independence and either leave or are fired from his Administration they become ” Awful terrible weak fake person I never really liked or trusted”

  36. a disgruntled fired employee

  37. He left office a year and a half ago, and this is the first time (other than a joke at a political roast) that he has publicly criticised Trump. Not that disgruntled clearly.

  38. Phantom,

    I read some of those comments. They are insane!

  39. Patrick, I’ve just sent you a mail. Can you have a look please?

  40. Charles

    That’s what I mean about the cult.

    There will be a lot of comments now that he was not a good general, that he is a disgruntled employee, all of that.

    Next thing they’ll want him put in prison for treason

  41. //There will be a lot of comments now that he was not a good general, that he is a disgruntled employee, all of that.
    Next thing they’ll want him put in prison for treason//

    Yes, it turned out Snowball had always been a public enemy.

    In any case, at least people now needn’t wonder any longer about how dictatorships and cult of personality, continuous lies, and an Orwellian distortion of history, so easily happen in undemocratic countries.

    Just imagine what you’d be living with if this shower had absolute power in the US.

    The weird thing is that – though perhaps it isn’t so weird – the people who always most loudly crowed about Orwell and truth and freedom are the very ones who support this new parallel universe.

  42. Yes

    He is not a dictator, but he’d clearly like to be one.

    One who ends speech rights, one who destroys protesters, one who ” locks up ” the opposition.

    That kind of dictator.

    But he is too stupid to be a dictator, and the protections of the US system guard against strongmen.

    The military takes an oath to defend the Constitution, not to defend MAGA and Trump.

  43. sure Noel

  44. What’s a ‘posh soy group?’

    Antifa – they are made of middle-class beta-males who only attack those who are unlikely to fight back . Here is an example:

    Allan@Aberdeen, on June 1st, 2020 at 11:25 PM Said:

    I was discussing these ‘anti-fa’ thugs today with some friends over coffee, and one suggested that they were inadequates who would pick on and swarm anybody who was even less physically cappable than they clearly are. OK – it’s a view, and possibly true.
    And then I saw this footage below from Portland Oregon, the capital city of soy-latte’d beta-males which lent weight to my friend’s theory:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=29&v=hpVj4658Zvc&feature=emb_logo

    Andrec S
    Andrec S
    1 day ago
    The fat guy first punch barely had an effect so the whole crowd of soy boys had to jump him. And they still couldn’t manage to steal the flag from him. A group of soy in their 20s/30s jumping a middle aged man. Saaaad lol

    And here they are in their frat-boy house:

    https://twitter.com/GSpellchecker/status/1267938077256962056

    Stephen Knight
    @GSpellchecker
    ·
    2 Jun
    “We’re on your side!”

    Cheering on the destruction is all fun and games when you don’t expect to be the recipient.

    I hope they meet those whom they support

  45. But he is too stupid to be a dictator,

    I was going to express a very similar sentiment. Except I wouldn’t say stupid. He’s just not organised, focused politically astute or disciplined enough to be a dictator. He is a man with a giant ego and great reserves of vanity who just wants to be the biggest man in any room he is in – but has not the skill or patience or long term vision to work diligently to put his egoistic energy to a productive purpose. I sometimes get the feeling that having achieved the Presidency he doesn’t really know what to do with it, and so he just enjoys the ‘controversy’ he endlessly stirs on twitter and only wants a second term not for a visionary purpose but just because its another prize to win (I AM INVINCIBLE) and he will then get bored again.

    If he didn’t have to go though the hassle of becoming a Cardinal first, he might have been tempted to run for Pope when the role next becomes vacant 🙂

  46. The ” soy boy ” term is genuinely weird. I’ve heard it used by nut jobs who are friends with Alex Jones.

    Soy products are consumed by an immense amount of the world’s population.

    We are demonizing beans now?

  47. He is a great showman, with strong skills in media and branding.

    Just don’t ever ask him to run anything.

  48. We are demonizing beans now?

    Depends on the beans. At the moment “Black Beans Matter” 🙂

  49. Phantom, on June 4th, 2020 at 5:01 PM Said:

    The ” soy boy ” term is genuinely weird.

    Nothing weird about it – it suppresses testosterone levels and provides the male typically seen below

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=29&v=hpVj4658Zvc&feature=emb_logo

    Andrec S
    Andrec S
    1 day ago
    The fat guy first punch barely had an effect so the whole crowd of soy boys had to jump him. And they still couldn’t manage to steal the flag from him. A group of soy in their 20s/30s jumping a middle aged man. Saaaad lol

    https://healthfully.com/377025-can-soy-protein-hurt-testosterone-in-men.html

    Decreases Testosterone

    Researchers from the University Hospital of Wales in the United Kingdom investigated the impact of soy on testosterone levels in healthy men. For six weeks, subjects were randomly assigned a diet with or without soya flour that contained 120 mg of soy isoflavones. Testosterone levels were measured before and after treatment. At the end of the study, published in the January 2003 issue of the “European Journal of Clinical Nutrition,” scientists found that the soya flour group experienced decreases in testosterone levels compared to the group without soya flour.

  50. I am to happy announce that Navy Veteran, Michael White, who has been detained by Iran for 683 days, is on a Swiss plane that just left Iranian Airspace. We expect him to be home with his family in America very soon….

  51. Patrick, Happy news!

    Phantom., Allan is right about the soy. It contains isoflavones which act as estrogen like substances. Some OTC medicines use isoflavones as estrogen substitutes to treat women’s problems.

  52. Yesterday, in The Atlantic, retired USMC General and former Secretary of State lowered the boom on Trump.

    … on behalf of his friend Jeff Bezos. Mattis wanted to give Amazon a $10 billion contract. Trump wrote Amazon out of it. This is a little payback, that’s all.

  53. Charles,

    “Allan is right about the soy. It contains isoflavones which act as estrogen like substances. Some OTC medicines use isoflavones as estrogen substitutes to treat women’s problems.”

    That’s like saying a Nigerian spam email that claims you inherited a bazillion dollars is genuine because it includes a link to a BBC news story about the plane crash of the supposed relatives that bequeathed it to you.

  54. Soy is one of the most widely consumed foods on earth.

    The linked video could well be of people who had Big Macs for lunch that day, not soy anything.

  55. Noel

    Good detective work. Here is his bio:
    ““Streetwise Professor” is the web persona of me, who happens to be Craig Pirrong.* My day job (to the extent that I have a real job) is as Professor of Finance and Energy Markets Director of the Global Energy Management Institute at the Bauer College of Business, University of Houston. I have been in academia since 1989–shortly before the Ferruzzi soybean squeeze on the Chicago Board of Trade in July of that year, which was quite propitious and which had a big impact on the trajectory of my career. I have a PhD in Business Economics from the Graduate School of Business at the University of Chicago.”

  56. Pete 739

    You’re a funny guy

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r_DwZfyXAXI

  57. Phantom

    Thank you for posting about the General Mattis article.

    It is powerful and will find many welcome listeners.

    Also, all four former presidents have condemned Trump. Trump’s poll numbers are sinking.

    Trump cannot escape responsibility for his feckless non-response to the coronavirus and tens of thousands of needless deaths. Nor can he erase his dangerous words and actions on the current protests.

    Many think the Trump presidency has been a total disaster and during the summer many more will come to that conclusion. It remains to be seen how a mentally unbalanced Trump will react.

  58. He could lose in a landslide of historic proportions.

    And he could cause permanent structural damage to the Republican Party while doing it.

    Which is not necessarily any good news long term for the country either.

    We’d be expelling the jabbering menace, yes. He can go back to NY or FL or whatever his home state of the moment is.

    But are the Democrats prepared to lead, or are they prepared to pander?

  59. I’m afraid pander seems to be leading the day.

  60. He could lose in a landslide but I doubt it.

    Ultimately Trump’s actions are polarising rather than seen as negative by everyone. At his low point Bush Jnr had approval ratings of 55% from Republicans and 19% from Democrats.

    Trump’s approval ratings are 14% from Democrats and 92% from Republicans. For a landslide you need him to lose all Democrats (check), most Independents (not really) and even some Republicans (not happening at the moment).

  61. Antifa – they are made of middle-class beta-males

    Isn’t it a bit stones & glasshouses for an oil engineer living in middle class Aberdeen who developed a stomach bug when one of ATW’s most affable, mild-mannered commentators wanted to meet him in his home city to be criticising middle-class beta-males?

  62. Seamus

    He hasn’t lost me yet, though his personality tasks me greatly. I’ve been wondering what the silent majority thinks of all this rioting and looting, and my guess is that they would like to see tougher action. Not against peaceful protest mind you, but against looting. Trump talks tough, but really hasn’t done that much really, and has left it up to the feckless governors.

  63. I think polling is pretty divided (which isn’t uncommon with issue polling where wording can be important). One poll suggests that 58% would support deploying troops against rioters, with another saying 52% would find it inappropriate.

  64. That’s called Federalism

    This is the Governors jobs, after the Mayors.

  65. Is Mexico paying for the ‘wall’ they’re building around the White House?

  66. The NYS legal system is letting looters out the same day so they can get back to the looting.

    Maybe they should’t do that.

  67. Phantom

    Biden is the leader of the Democratic party and he has just begun to campaign. I expect he will have good policy positions and I believe he has leadership qualities. I think he will propose a new view of current and future important issues.

    The Republicans will have to cleanse themselves of everything Trump and rethink and rebuild. Trump has destroyed what was good about the Republican party but they have good people who have avoided him with heads on their shoulders.

  68. Trump tweeted in 2014 that America could expect “riots and looting” due to “weak leadership in Washington.”

    https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/trump-tweet-weak-leadership/

    That could make for a nice TV ad.

  69. “Maybe they should’t do that.”

    I think pre trial confinement should be the exception rather than the rule at the best of time. Nevermind at a time of widespread police action against peaceful protestors. There is a pretty decent chance that some of those “looters” aren’t actually looters.

  70. Biden made an unforced error by promising to choose a woman VP.

    He has limited his freedom of movement, and could be about to make a big mistake. The choices spoken of ( Abrams, Harris, Warren ) to me could not be less impressive.

  71. Charles

    “Trump talks tough, but really hasn’t done that much really, and has left it up to the feckless governors.” The coronavirus was a national threat and there should have been a proper federal response led by Trump. Policing the protests is a state and local matter and Trump should not interfere in how states and localities handle it. In other words, Trump didn’t take action where he should have on coronavorus but wants a federal place in state and local matters where it does not belong. He’s got things mixed up on where he should take actions and where he shouldn’t.

  72. Obama left a pandemic playbook, and Trump and the administration never even bothered to read it.

    A little preparation goes a long way.

  73. The choices for VP don’t seem that great but I don’t think expanding the search to men would improve things a lot. The talent level in politics doesn’t inspire a lot of confidence.

  74. There’s a gentleman named Mattis who would be light years ahead of the others, on a national unity ticket.

    Won’t happen, but in a smarter situation, that would be something that could be quietly on the table.

  75. It would depend where he stood on other issues. Joe Biden dying in office is not a ridiculous idea (he’d be 82 at the end of his first term if elected). Would you have a hairpin turn from the White House on a number of policy areas?

    A national unity ticket occured once before. The President died. He was replaced by a guy of a different party. And far from unifying America it caused one of the most divisive periods in American political history.

  76. Phantom

    “Obama left a pandemic playbook, and Trump and the administration never even bothered to read it.” Correct. There were also people who knew how to handle a pandemic and the genius fired them.

    Obama also fought Ebola with success. Trump should have called him for advice as other presidents in the past have consulted their predecessors. But, he is a genius.

  77. More bad news for Trump: “The PRRI poll also finds big slippage among another key demographic: Currently, 37% of white Catholics hold favorable views of Trump, a significant drop from 49% across 2019, and a substantial downward trend from a high of 60% in March and 48% in April.

    60% to 37% is a drop of 38% which is quite steep.

  78. They blew off all or most of the transition meetings and they didn’t read the documents that had been painstakingly prepared.

    None of this can be denied.

    Chance favors the prepared mind, the great Frenchman said. This guy wasn’t prepared for anything.

  79. It is politically impossible for Biden not to choose a black female running mate at this point. That isn’t a bad thing in and of itself, but it limits the possibilities.

  80. I don’t see anyone good than.

    I don’t find Harris to be impressive at all, and Abrams shouldn’t be considered. Her only claim to fame is losing an election.

  81. I don’t like either but if it has to be one then Harris as Abrams shouldn’t be considered.

  82. I would reluctantly agree.

    Electorally, it’s dumb since CA is a brain dead Dem state anyway. She delivers nothing that you don’t have already. And if Biden croaks in a year, you have this accidental president who fell into it.

    Klobachar was attractive before this week, since she is smart and comes from a swing state.

  83. Klobuchar would have been my choice but they would wrongfully taint her with not prosecuting cops.

  84. Yes

    This entire endless process is designed to winnow out anyone who is good

  85. Phantom, on June 4th, 2020 at 10:01 PM Said:

    There’s a gentleman named Mattis who would be light years ahead of the others, on a national unity ticket.

    I reckon that any of the senior police officers who ‘took the knee’ are sufficiently presidential for the Democrats. They can unify criminals and hooligans with their intended victims

  86. Klobuchar was my first choice as well. I’d be fine with Val Demmings or Keisha Bottoms.

    No getting around the fact that it’s a referendum election on Trump and Dems need to motivate the black electorate to vote in record numbers. A black female VP will do that, no white woman will.

    That said, I’d vote for a rotting corpse over Trump.

  87. When the primaries were just starting for the dems I thought Klobuchar was actually a very good candidate with reasonable ideas. She then of course joined the rest of the crazy train that leads the Democrat party and as an echo of everyone else she couldn’t compete.

    She would have been a good choice to run as VP, but that’s shot.

    Whose Joe gonna pick Kamala, Pocahantis, or crazy Stacy……..

  88. My guess is Harris, but 2020 is so insane it could be Beyonce at this point.

  89. lol

  90. SEAL team commander Admiral McRaven on TV this morning, criticizing the clearing of the park for Trump’s photo op. He didn’t call for a massacre, either.