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It’s a Maddie world

By Patrick Van Roy On June 4th, 2020

Guest Post by Noel

My wife asked me yesterday how people know about George Floyd’s prior convictions. She was flabbergasted to hear that practically anyone in the US can discover the criminal past of practically anybody else (Americans will correct me if I’m wrong). In fact even the record of the smallest misdemeanours are available to the public.  It was, for example, thus immediately known – everywhere – that the lady driver who killed an Englishman outside a military base in England had a previous rap for dangerous driving.

In Germany, on the other hand, it has always been law and universal practice that the name of a suspect is announced and reported only by his first name and the initial of his last name. Josef K in Kafka’s “Trial” is probably the most famous figure.

More recently that protection of identity has rather bizarrely been extended also to those who have been legally convicted and those imprisoned. Full facial appearance is also not revealed.

The man who German authorities are now pretty certain murdered the girl Madeleine McCann in Portugal 13 years ago is currently in prison for raping an American woman in the Algarve about a year before Maddie went missing. Afterwards he was found guilty of several other crimes of sexual abuse of children, child pornography and a string of burglary and drug dealing offences.

Data confidentiality laws in Germany are much tougher than in most places, which is usually a good thing.  But it will turn the toughest gut to see such a nasty specimen still having his identity protected: where neither his name nor his full photo can be disclosed, and that’s the way it’s going to stay, no matter the horror of any new criminal convictions, until the day he dies.

These rules of course don’t apply in other countries, and while the BBC continues to respect the German practice, I must say I was pleased to come across this article with a bit more disclosure. It would be interesting to know how the DM got hold of his name.

66 Responses to “It’s a Maddie world”

  1. “The suspect a 43 year old German drifter with a long history of sex crimes against women and children”

    Yet was still walking the streets?

  2. I get the impression there is greater leniency in many European countries on sentencing for violent and sexual offences than we have here in the UK or US.

  3. //“The suspect a 43 year old German drifter with a long history of sex crimes against women and children”

    Yet was still walking the streets?//

    He’s currently serving a 7-year sentence in Germany for raping the American. One question is how he managed to spend 12 years of crime in Portugal without being arrested. Also the minor 15-month sentence he got for the first child abuse and pornography convictions.

  4. //I get the impression there is greater leniency in many European countries on sentencing for violent and sexual offences than we have here in the UK or US.//

    Very true, Colm. Sometimes sentences in Europe are a joke.

    In 2016, there were less than 500 people serving life sentences in France; in the UK the number was more than SEVENTEEN times that – over 8,500.

    But of course, Nothing Compares to US. In the year in question, there were over half a million people serving life sentences in the world, and a full one third of them were in the US, which accounted for by far the highest number in the world.

  5. This isn’t a particularly new story:

    https://news.sky.com/story/madeleine-mccann-new-suspect-is-german-man-under-investigation-for-alleged-child-sex-offences-11711592?fbclid=IwAR2gKHuWiT5z3ey7E32U4gyZLhfUCbqyB8h87jnmYn-BYHc-m6jeqpuCI00

  6. It was always a sad story and that part won’t change.

  7. The right to be forgotten law, which was pushed by the EU is an absolute f****** joke.

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/nov/28/german-court-backs-murderers-right-to-be-forgotten-online

  8. 7 months into a seven year prison sentence, for the brutal rape (which the monster recorded on video) of a 72 year old American women, who he then went onto brutalise.

    Madeleine McCann suspect ‘could be out of jail in DAYS’: Police fear German rapist may be given parole as they hunt for his ‘Kosovan underage’ ex-girlfriend and focus on Portuguese farmhouse they shared

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8390005/Police-hunt-Madeleine-McCann-suspects-underage-Kosovan-ex-lived-Praia-da-Luz.html

    The German judicial system is even worse than the U.K.,s.

  9. //7 months into a seven year prison sentence//

    Harri, I was wrong to state above that he’s now serving this 7-year sentence for raping the American woman. He’s only serving a 21-month sentence for a drugs conviction, which is due to end shortly. The 7-year rape sentence hasn’t begun yet and is still pending appeal.
    If the evidence in the rape case is strong, which I believe it is, he’ll probably still be held during the appeal.

  10. One question is how he managed to spend 12 years of crime in Portugal without being arrested.

    He’s a useful fall-guy, and it’s a timely diversion too given that the Covid-hoax is becoming very clear, so why not provide the emotionally over-wrought masses with something to take their attention off their own stupidity and credulity, until the dreaded ‘second-wave’ arrives?

  11. Noel

    I did read somewhere, that he was in Portugal, because he lost his “German Residency”

    What does that mean?

    He lost his property? his home in Germany?

    Or his actual Residency permit? Which I doubt seeming as he is a German National.

    I’m just trying to grasp an understanding out of some of this.

  12. He’s a useful fall-guy, and it’s a timely diversion too given that the Covid-hoax is becoming very clear, so why not provide the emotionally over-wrought masses with something to take their attention off their own stupidity and credulity, until the dreaded ‘second-wave’ arrives?

    Of course Allan, of course. It couldn’t possibly be anything else could it ?

  13. I read he went to Portugal because he had a string of criminal complaints against him in Germany. That seems to have been a pattern. When police were onto him in Germany he would go to Portugal for a few years. When the police in Portugal started looking at him he’d go back to Germany. And so on and so forth.

  14. He’s a useful fall-guy, and it’s a timely diversion too given that the Covid-hoax is becoming very clear,

    Because absolutely everything is a conspiracy. Nothing is not a conspiracy.

  15. Because absolutely everything is a non-conspiracy, Nothing is a conspiracy.

    Petr.

    Is there anything, that you would deem a conspiracy?

  16. Petr Tarasov,

    Because absolutely everything is a conspiracy. Nothing is not a conspiracy.

    That don’t sound right. What are you hiding Petr.

  17. https://forums.anandtech.com/threads/bill-gates-caused-9-11.187189/

  18. That don’t sound right. What are you hiding Petr.

    Dave.

    Petr, is Antifa.

    Quite a lot I would guess.

  19. Harri, lots of things. One needs to be discerning though. All manner of powerful people and institutions will do deeply wrong things and try to keep it secret, nobody doubts this, but you need to use your nut in order to discern probability, and you need to have some idea how the social world works, about incentives, and so on.

    Having not posted on ATW for about two years, I knew that without a doubt Allan would be positing some ludicrous conspiracy in relation to Covid 19. I come on here, and hey presto, there it is. Yes, there are conspiracies, but everything is not a conspiracy.

  20. Petr Tarasov, on February 4th, 2016 at 12:03 AM Said:
    Transport arranged for anti fascist demo in Dublin this Saturday. Huge crowd expected. Been on the bunch bag all evening, hoping to send a few fascists home with injuries. No platform!

    Petr.

    Are you still a proud member and anarchist of Antifa?

    And, do you personally wear “black- bloc” so you can’t be identified by the authorities?

  21. Yes, there are conspiracies, but everything is not a conspiracy.

    What conspiracies?

    Please, be as specific as you like.

  22. Petr

    , I knew that without a doubt Allan would be positing some ludicrous conspiracy in relation to Covid 19. I come on here, and hey presto, there it is. Yes, there are conspiracies, but everything is not a conspiracy.

    I actually think Allan is even more of a conspiracy theorist than appears to be on here. Believe it or not, I think he reigns it in for ATW. It wouldn’t surprise me if he turned out to be a flat earther.

  23. What conspiracies?

    Please, be as specific as you like.

    My pleasure. A few examples:

    https://www.newstatesman.com/politics/northern-ireland/2019/03/how-british-forces-colluded-sectarian-violence-northern-ireland

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catholic_Archdiocese_of_Boston_sex_abuse_scandal#Cover-ups

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lysine_price-fixing_conspiracy

  24. Dave.

    Same question to you mate, do you believe there are any, any at all, conspiracy theories, or is all we are told, as we are told.

    Please be as specific as you like mate.

  25. Petr.

    You old conspiracy theorist you. This is David Icke, Lizard people, Alex Jones, flat earthier, moon made of cheese, Elvis is still alive and kicking howling at the moon stuff.

    You see how this works now?

  26. Petr.

    Would I be a conspiracy theorist if I claimed you are a member of Antifa?

  27. Harri.

    We’ve had this conversation before mate, and I’ll answer the same now as I did then.
    It should be obvious by now that I don’t believe everything I’m ‘officially’ told, but I try to base what I do and don’t believe on the available evidence. which is why I don’t believe most of the popular conspiracy theories.
    Of course there are some conspiracy theories that turn out to be true. The vast majority however, don’t.

  28. Dave.

    Fair play mate.

    But, could you please be more specific?

    What conspiracies do you ,believe’ in, or are at least seriously suspicious, or concerned about?

    Remind me.

  29. Harri

    Is there anything Allan posts that you don’t believe ?

  30. Colm.

    Same question to you mate.

    Same question to you mate, do you believe there are any, any at all, conspiracy theories, or is all we are told, as we are told.

    Go on, instead of just having an opinion, a monkey given enough time and effort could manage that.

    Please Colm, be as specific as you wish.

  31. Harri,

    What conspiracies do you ,believe’ in, or are at least seriously suspicious, or concerned about?

    Remind me.

    As we’ve discussed in the past:
    I suppose the only popular conspiracy theory I can think of, thatI give some credence to, is the Kennedy assassination. I’m not saying the official version is is definitely wrong, but there are a lot of questions surrounding the events of that day.
    As we’ve discussed before, I accept that the Holocaust happened, but I don’t know if the 6 million figure is completely accurate.
    I accept that vaccines on the whole work but that some vaccines can have negative side effects, and there have been cover-ups by large pharmaceutical companies.

    For me it’s not black and white, more shades of grey.
    I hope that makes my position clear on conspiracy theories.

  32. It would be hard for any sane person to say that the Holocaust never happened, or that it was not a massive industrial highly intentional and documented genocide.

  33. Harri, on June 5th, 2020 at 12:48 PM Said:
    Petr.

    You old conspiracy theorist you. This is David Icke, Lizard people, Alex Jones, flat earthier, moon made of cheese, Elvis is still alive and kicking howling at the moon stuff.

    You see how this works now?

    That doesn’t make any sense Harri. The examples I provided are demonstrably true; have been proven, and nobody doubts it. They are not theories, they are established fact.

    Allan’s are theories, and to any sane person in possession of a few brain cells, frankly ludicrous theories.

  34. “As we’ve discussed before, I accept that the Holocaust happened, but I don’t know if the 6 million figure is completely accurate.”

    Though that wouldn’t really be a conspiracy theory. Certainly not of the sort that Allan indulges in. His argument is that the six million bit is bogus and a tool to trick people. I would imagine that yours is more questioning imprecise (though ultimately in my opinion – best guess) method of determining how many Jews died in the Holocaust.

    “I suppose the only popular conspiracy theory I can think of, thatI give some credence to, is the Kennedy assassination. I’m not saying the official version is is definitely wrong, but there are a lot of questions surrounding the events of that day.”

    Just out of interest, because it is something that absolutely fascinates me, what questions do you have surrounding the events of the day?

  35. // what questions do you have surrounding the events of the day?//

    If I may chip in here:

    LHO as sole actor is a bit unlikely, as he wasn’t particularly intelligent or a good organiser.

    Shooting such a small and moving target from a distance and at an awkward angle, and hitting it twice, also sounds a bit unlikely.

    The shady character on that famous grassy knoll.

    But probably most of all his death while in custody by an even more shady criminal character who had nothing to gain from simple revenge (LHO would most likely have been executed) and happened to be dying of cancer.

  36. As we’ve discussed in the past:
    I suppose the only popular conspiracy theory I can think of, thatI give some credence to, is the Kennedy assassination. I’m not saying the official version is is definitely wrong, but there are a lot of questions

    I think you have just about covered all options there a Dave.

  37. Yes Noel. All fair points. We will never know, unfortunately.

  38. The holocaust deniers don’t want the truth. They are enemies of the truth.

    The number may not be six million. It could be lower but still vastly high and it could be higher than that.

    There’s a reason why the allies, then Poland, left Birkenau standing. Because even in the late forties, they saw the Allans and the little Allans coming.

  39. Another true conspiracy is the Dutroux child abuse/murder ring in Belgium. Maybe there was even a bit of a conspiracy in the Algarve in this Maddiecase.

  40. The holocaust would be among the most studied events in human history. The idea that there’s some vast conspiracy that some schumk on the internet could uncover is utterly laughable.

  41. Do we exist or are we a conspiracy promoted by God ? 🙂

  42. Colm.

    God, religion, an invisible all powerful man lives in sky..

    Nope, no conspiracy theories there then?

    😉

  43. “LHO as sole actor is a bit unlikely, as he wasn’t particularly intelligent or a good organiser.

    Shooting such a small and moving target from a distance and at an awkward angle, and hitting it twice, also sounds a bit unlikely.”

    Oswald was a good shot. He was a trained sharpshooter in the Marines. And experts in trajectory etc… have all concluded that the shots all came from the sixth floor of the Book Depository. So if there was more than one shooter then they were all firing out the same window.

    “The shady character on that famous grassy knoll.”

    The only evidence of which comes from a low quality, black and white photo, blown up by computer. Seriously look at the original photo, the Moorman photo, in black and white, with all its imperfections, and see if you can even spot Badge Man, never mind pick him out clearly.

    “But probably most of all his death while in custody by an even more shady criminal character who had nothing to gain from simple revenge (LHO would most likely have been executed) and happened to be dying of cancer.”

    I have no reasonable explanation, or certainly no explanation backed by evidence, to suggest why Ruby did what he did. There is no evidence to suggest, as far as I am aware, that Ruby knew he had cancer at the time. It would be 3 years before he’d get his cancer diagnosis. And Ruby’s links to organised crime, while there, aren’t all that extensive.

    My broad inkling is that Ruby’s killing of Oswald was likely spontaneous. Ruby showed up at the perfect time to kill Oswald, despite the fact that Oswald’s transfer had been delayed, unexpectedly, by 30 minutes. If that delay hadn’t happened the Oswald would already have been gone before Ruby got there.

    There is evidence that Ruby was an excessive drug user, primarily amphetamines that he took for weight loss. And that he was taking them more regularly in the months leading up to the assassination.

    My view is that Ruby was a perpetual loser, amped on speed, and came across Oswald. And saw his chance to write his name into the history books.

  44. Or to avenge the death of the young president.

  45. Having not posted on ATW for about two years, I knew that without a doubt Allan would be positing some ludicrous conspiracy in relation to Covid 19. I come on here, and hey presto, there it is.

    OK Petr – what’s the Covid-19 conspiracy that I’m pushing?

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-8381847/Now-know-coronavirus-not-random-killer-one-size-fits-lockdown-come-end.html

    Finally, we can say with confidence what many of us have suspected for weeks: not only is the end of the pandemic now in sight but also the people best-placed to recharge our economy have little to fear from it.

    Thanks to definitive figures released yesterday by Public Health England, we know that Covid-19 is not a random killer, but one that targets specific groups – namely the old and those with pre-existing conditions such as diabetes or dementia.

    The statistics are astounding: those aged over 80 are fully 70 times more likely to die of the disease than those under 40, while being morbidly obese increases your risk of dying by two and a half times. And fortunately the death rate among children is very low.

    Professor Karol Sikora is consultant oncologist and professor of medicine, University of Buckingham Medical School.

    And yet……

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2020/06/04/face-masks-compulsory-public-transport-june-15-government-announces/

    Face coverings will be mandatory on all public transport from June 15 after the Government reversed its policy on the issue.

    Anyone without a face covering from that date can expect to be fined or stopped from boarding buses, trains, Tubes, trams, aeroplanes or ferries.

    It must be that pre-planned ‘second wave’ 🙂 🙂

  46. And Ruby’s links to organised crime, while there, aren’t all that extensive.

    Still, I would like to read about that anyway, Seamus have you a link please.

  47. The young JFK campaigned a mile from me in Brooklyn. People still talk about it every so often.

    He took the ferry that used to run from Staten Island to Brooklyn.

    The assassination was an exceptionally traumatic event here, I’m not sure that a younger person could understand the sadness of it.

    I don’t have a hard time imagining a random guy shooting Oswald if he came upon him.

    The assassination seemingly opened the gates of hell to an endless number of bad things – riots, Vietnam, more assassinations.

    Today is bad. The sixties were much worse.

  48. The assassination seemingly opened the gates of hell to an endless number of bad things – riots, Vietnam, more assassinations.

    Phantom, do you think those other things wouldn’t have happened without the JFK killing ? While it impossible to predict “what if ” scenarios, I think the civil rights riots and Vietnam protests would still have happened. The social changes of the sixties were inevitable in my opinion.

  49. Seamus.

    It’s okay now, I have been reading about Jack Ruby.

    He has already got a pass from me, and I’m only halfway in..

    Affection for Dogs

    Ruby was extremely fond of dogs. Numerous persons stated that he was constantly accompanied by several of the dogs he owned.450 Testimony at Ruby’s trial in March 1964 indicated that he referred to his dogs as his “children.” 451 He also became extremely incensed when he witnessed the maltreatment of any of his dogs.

    Religious Interests

    Reared in the Jewish faith.

    https://www.archives.gov/research/jfk/warren-commission-report/appendix-16.html#arrests

    Smiley face on the last bit 😁

    That’s good enough for me.

  50. “Still, I would like to read about that anyway, Seamus have you a link please.”

    Vincent Bugliosi’s book about the Kennedy assassination is a really good book. He goes through a lot of the conspiracy theories and just rips them apart. As you can imagine, given the scale of those conspiracy theories, the book is huge. Which is altogether more impressive when you find out he wrote it longhand and didn’t use a typewriter or a computer.

    In addition to debunking a lot of the popular conspiracy theories the book also devotes a lot of time looking at the lives of Lee Harvey Oswald and Jack Ruby.

    There are very few books about any subject that I would recommend more. He was a great author, and was a very successful trial lawyer before that (he prosecuted, and subsequently wrote the book, on Charlie Manson).

    “He has already got a pass from me, and I’m only halfway in..”

    That was actually one of the reasons there is a suspicion that his murder of Oswald was spontaneous. When he went into the town that day he brought his dog Sheba with him. And he did apparently adore his dogs. When he killed Oswald he was arrested and detained (which he was always going to be – if not outright shot by the cops). Yet his dog was still sitting in his car, alone. The thinking being, given his affection for his dogs, that he wouldn’t have left her alone in the car if he knew he wasn’t coming back.

  51. Many thanks Seamus.

    Found one on EBay UK.

    Hopefully there will be a cheaper one.

    Saying that, my wife paid a tad under £500 for three nursing and surgical reference books for her Uni studies.

    So £37 is not the end of the world.

    Reclaiming History: The Assassination of President John F. Kennedy by Vincent Bugliosi (Hardback, 2013)

    https://www.ebay.co.uk/p/89510929?iid=133334842871

  52. Colm

    There is no reason to think that the MLK and RFK assassinations might not have happened. All is unknowable.

    I would expect that the culture changes would largely have happened anyway, and that the Vietnam catastrophe would have happened anyway, perhaps less bad, since JFK actually did have some misgivings about it. But he would always have had to defend himself from criticism from the right wing, including from Goldwater, who spoke of using nuclear weapons in Vietnam.

  53. eBay and similar services are the most incredibly useful things

  54. I love eBay.

    Just taking the garden into account, we have four sheds, a timber greenhouse, a timber workshop and a summerhouse to prove it.

    All on eBay, all purchased locally within 25 miles.

    You have to be wary though, a friend of ours, ‘bought’ a motor home on eBay, met the toe rags in a motorway service station halfway between London and Liverpool on the M6, handed over 30k cash for a motor home worth 70k.

    If it seems to good to be true, it always is.

    They were Pikeys, and the motor home was stolen with forged papers.

    They lost the lot.

  55. It’s a huge book. I’ve often seen it retailed for more than £100.

  56. The Kennedy assassination still horrifies and fascinates. The more I have read and heard, the more the Warren Commission holds up. That’s not to say there werent shadowy forces behind Oswald but there is no evidence to show it.

  57. A common thought at the time was to blame the JFK murder on right wing Texans. As recent as five years ago, I heard a guy in PA blame rightists for the assassination.

    But Oswald was a drifter all his life, and was the opposite of a right winger.

  58. Was Oswald a Marxist?

    I believe he subscribed to Marxism?

  59. Yes

    He actually moved to the USSR. Married a Russian woman.

    He demonstrated in favor of Castro’s Cuba I believe.

  60. https://www.atlasobscura.com/places/lee-harvey-oswalds-apartment-in-minsk

  61. Yes.

    Oswald moved to Russia, was denied citizenship, and attempted suicide.

    It’s a pity he didn’t succeed.

    John F Kennedy was a great man. Who signed the civil rights act.

    Not the greatest politician in American history, but a charismatic leader of a great nation, none the less.

    Since then, it’s all been pretty much downhill.

    It’s exactly the same here in the UK, and other European nations, dross after ever greater dross, year after year after year.

  62. I think JFK birthed the Civil Rights Act but wasn’t it LBJ who completed it and signed it into law ?

  63. Colm.

    You may well be correct my friend.

    But, and according to a biography I was just reading, it was JFK who actually signed the President’s order for the Civil Rights Act.

    I am obviously open to correction here.

  64. LBJ, a former senator used all his wiles and muscle to get it signed into law.

  65. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marina_Oswald_Porter

    Marina Oswald moved to a strange country, was widowed at young age, with the late husband accused of the crime of the century.

    She knew nothing of what her husband was about to do, and people had great sympathy for her situation. They would sent her money.

    She, now a US citizen, still lives in Texas.

  66. Phantom.

    Texas?

    I wonder if she owns a rifle, and is a Democrat?

    😏