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And now for something completely different

By ATWadmin On February 24th, 2009

The U.S. is under attack on our homeland. Mexico is currently in the state of a complete collapse. Their Government is failling and chaos is reining supreme. The Drug Cartels have bought the Mexican Army and are making regular incursions across the border into the U.S. and are killing anyone and everyone in their path, including law enforcement officers.

The City with the second most kidnappings in the world is Phoenix Arizona, only being beat out by Mexico City. If drug cartels continue to terrorize Mexico, Texas officials are planning for the worst-case scenario: How to respond if violence spills over the border and what to do if thousands of Mexicans seek refuge in the United States.

In EL PAS0 Police are investigating threats against Juárez Mayor Jose Reyes Ferriz, who moved his family to El Paso for safety, the Mayor of a Mexican City has moved to the US for Safety Reasons.

“We received information that the Juárez mayor lives in El Paso, and that possibly they were going to come to El Paso to get him,” Carrillo El Paso police Cheif said. “He has not asked us for our help, but it’s our duty to protect any resident of our city who may be under threat.”

FBI agents in El Paso had warned the Mayorabout the cartel’s plans to cross the Border to come assasinate him. AMexican state policewoman was charged and imprisoned in the plot.

Violence from Mexican drug cartels has spilled over into Texas, state Homeland Security Director Steve McCraw said Monday.

“Yes, absolutely it has occurred; there’s no question about it,” McCraw said after a hearing before the House Committee on Border and International Affairs.

McCraw answered lawmakers’ questions about Gov. Rick Perry’s request for another $135 million for border security operations on the same day Texas Attorney General Greg Abbott asked lawmakers for a new tool to help bring down transnational gangs that threaten border communities.

The situation at our Southern Border has become completly out of control. Every day bodies are left there and Mexican Military vehicles protect drug runners.

We need to station troops on our Border with orders to shoot to kill. Instead of the “there is no problem” attitude of both this and the last administration.

Info from the EL PASO free press was used for this article.

30 Responses to “And now for something completely different”

  1. Troll – I thought based on your posts it was the US government that was collapsing and our society in chaos.

    Has the Battlefield as you see it extended from the Middle East to the Southwest?

    Now you want our troops to be stationed on our border with our friendly neighbor where they might shoot poor College kids coming back from Spring Break in Cancun.

    On a serious note, there is rampant corruption and violence eminating from Mexico as a result of the drug trade and complicity of some Mexican authorities. But working effectively with its government and people is a far more long lasting solution than sending in troops (that we frankly have deployed elsewhere).

  2. I would have thought that the men and women of Texas could have seen off the Mexican Army , they did it before , I recall . A Texan with a rifle is the State’s best defence against enemies both domestic and foreign .

  3. Good post. I get the impression that the drug war has been woefully covered in recent years even as the violence reaches astonishing proportions.

    The Cartel Wars are dangerous to both Mexico and its northern neighbour, and it will spill over the border more and more in the next few years. Not to mention that there is serious talk of Mexico becoming a failed state- http://www.stratfor.com/weekly/mexico_road_failed_state

  4. Could this be a clinching argument in favour of the legalisation of all drugs ?

  5. "Could this be a clinching argument in favour of the legalisation of all drugs ?"

    It should be but it won’t be. If the ‘war on drugs’ had anything to with evidence it would have bben abandoned long ago.

  6. What ‘war on drugs’?

    There hasn’t been any such war. Only when the sons and daughters of the Establishment ruin their lives in large number and die by drugs and guns will there be a war on drugs.

    You’ll see dealers take the drop then. Before that happens, everyone else’s children can get stuffed.

  7. "There hasn’t been any such war."

    ‘War’ is a metaphor but there has been literal military actions against drug producers, sellers and smugglers (or people suspected of those things).

  8. drugs are just part of the issue, we are being invaded from the south and the mexican government is on the verge of collapse.

    Our system is buckling already over "needed workers" already flooding in not to mention the "non-mexicans" that get caught and not caught walking in our back door.

    When Phoenix is the has the second highest kidnapping cases in the world and it’s not headlines news, you can’t tell me that we are not in danger.

    Pull the troops from Japan and place them on the border, build a wall with machine gum turrets every 50yrds and creat 3 big gates

    1 in california, one in texas and one in between. Open them to workers and monitor their movements.

    We have american citizens and law enforcement agents being assasinated and targeted by the mexican military and it must stop.

  9. What a sad joke.

  10. The War on Drugs has failed and will always continue to fail. In America, in Canada, in Europe and in loads of other places.

    There is an intense desire for drugs among a significant part of the population, of all income and social groups.

    Mexico is the lesser drug problem. America is the root cause of the North American drugs problem. If all drug dealing out of Mexico stopped tomorrow, nothing would change – it would still come in via new routes, and if the Colombian cartel didn’t bring it in, the Bloods and Crips would, and if they didn’t someone else would.

    Canute learned his lesson, and we’d better learn ours.

    For a hundred reasons that should not have to be repeated – including the starving of the Mexican drugs gangs and FARC, and other terror gangs – the Drugs War must stop.

    Legalize, tax the hell out of it, and use some of that tax for the best hard drug rehab programs in the world.

  11. Mahons objects to sending in troops to patrol the US border. For emphasis, I’ll re-type:
    Mahons objects to sending in AMERICAN troops to AMWERICAN states to patrol the AMERICAN border.

    Clearly the left just don’t do defence (defense) and protection of the nation. In a sense, he’s right that it might be pointless. The US’s ‘friendly neighbour’ has already exported 50 million of its people north and they brought with them their criminality.

  12. "Mahons objects to sending in AMERICAN troops to AMWERICAN states to patrol the AMERICAN border."

    He can answer himself but the whole of Troll’s comment was a bit more than simply using troops to protect the border. The machine gun turets every 50 yards is a somewhat ott, this isn’t the Somme.

  13. The war on drugs will be abandoned on grounds of cost. Of all the wasteful government spending it’s hard to think of anything that has been more of a failure.

    It is the classic state solution. Spend a fortune and when it doesn’t work cite the failure as evidence of the need for more spending.

    And for what? To try and abolish the law of supply and demand. As a wise old witch once said. "you can’t buck the market"

    Without the war on drugs crime would probably return to 1950s levels and a docile population will go along with whatever is required to restore profitability in the economy.

    What I don’t understand is why lefties support legalization. I can only assume it’s for personal reasons.

  14. "Spend a fortune and when it doesn’t work cite the failure as evidence of the need for more spending."

    This is the reasoning behind most government spending:

    - Government boosts welfare spending to eradicate poverty, poverty becomes entrenched, therefore we need more welfare spending.

    - Government boosts spending on sex education to eradicate STDs and teenage pregnancy, rates of both shoot through the roof, therefore we need more sex education programmes.

    etc etc.

  15. He can answer himself but the whole of Troll’s comment was a bit more than simply using troops to protect the border. The machine gun turets every 50 yards is a somewhat ott, this isn’t the Somme.

    Wednesday, February 25, 2009 at 08:23AM | Ross

    Ross, check the times of the posts made. Mahons’s comment about his objections to troops being used for border protection i.e. protection of the US border by American troops on the American side of that border was posted BEFORE Troll’s comment.

  16. Really interesting post.

    That Phoenix issue is way crazier than Troll’s notion of sending in troops. And it’s real. Shocking. What the hell happened?

    Why don’t you just incorporate Mexico as a state via NAFTA or whatever it is and get a grip on this failed state that way. In much the same way the EU has on failing European states (Spain was as poor and crap as Mexico only 30 years ago).

    If nothing else it would surely allow you to police it more effectively and be a cheaper option.

    And at any rate you are slowly becoming a part of central and south America through unfettered immigration so it makes no sense to pour money down the drain.

    It would seem that the laissez faire attitude of your government so far on this whole deteriorating issue points to you all hooking up sooner or later.

  17. Allan – If you were thinking of visiting the US via Mexico I might be tempted to rethink having our troops stationed at all points of entry with a "shoot to kill" order as Troll suggested.

    Until that day I don’t think our troops should be stationed on our borders with a shoot to kill policy for anyone from Mexico who tries to sneak in. I think the borders are necessary, and regulation of imigration critical, but shooting people for merely crossing the border as the post seems to suggest seems a tad dramatic, even for Troll.

    Ross – The Somme line was priceless.

  18. Mahons, check the times of these posts.

    <<On a serious note, there is rampant corruption and violence eminating from Mexico as a result of the drug trade and complicity of some Mexican authorities. But working effectively with its government and people is a far more long lasting solution than sending in troops (that we frankly have deployed elsewhere).>>

    Tuesday, February 24, 2009 at 10:52PM | mahons

    <<Pull the troops from Japan and place them on the border, build a wall with machine gum turrets every 50yrds and creat 3 big gates
    1 in california, one in texas and one in between. Open them to workers and monitor their movements.
    We have american citizens and law enforcement agents being assasinated and targeted by the mexican military and it must stop.>>

    Wednesday, February 25, 2009 at 12:15AM | The Troll

    Troll’s ‘machine gun’ comment comes after your post objecting to using troops to defend the borders of the US from rampant criminality emanating from a "friendly neighbour". Come on now: everybody in the western world knows that Mexico is no friend of the US. That is why the border should be properly guarded.

  19. Allan – check the time to take your medication. Then check out where he wrote (at 8:39 PM if the original post’s clock is accurate) that we need to station troops along our border with orders to shoot to kill.

    His machine gun turrets every 50 yards comment was mere icing on his fruitcake.

  20. and as the mexican military invade the southern border machine gunning cops and border controll agents as they protect the drug shipments

    what is wrong with manned turrets defending against that?

  21. What do you think of Jeremy’s idea ?

  22. Allan – I see you failed to read the entire post. Beaten again.

  23. no north american union which is really what jeremy is advocating

  24. Troll, it seems the Tx Gov. agrees with you somewhat on the need for troops on the border, even if just to turn back the illegals.

    "Wednesday’s announcement (of the drug arrests) comes as increased violence along the Mexican border is prompting concern among state and federal officials in the United States.

    In Texas, Gov. Rick Perry called on the Department of Homeland Security to send "1,000 more troops" to the border in his state. "I don’t care whether they are military troops, or National Guard troops or whether they are customs agents," he said.

  25. no charles I’m nutz on’t you know,

    being a Texan what do think of tutning the problem over to the Rangers?

  26. The Rangers are only allowed target practice at tin-cans, not Mexi… no I won’t!

    But other than Pakistan, Mexico is the most unstable country that could, and is, giving the US trouble. The army is in bed with the drug lords as you say, and excursions onto US land are not unknown. This problem has festered too long, and now a full scale border war, mostly south of the Rio Grande, is under way.

    Anyone who doesn’t see it is a maroon.

  27. it’s not just south of the border anymore my friend

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  29. Mexico is now more dangerous than Iran and North Korea? (I won’t mention Russia or China). Classic.

  30. As someone who believes in accuracy I should correct an error I made in my first post on this thread, I wrote:

    "that there is serious talk of Mexico becoming a failed state"

    This appears to be inaccurate, the story seems to originate in a hypothetical planning exercise by the US Joint Forces Command, not a prediction of any kind.

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