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IS THERE LIFE ON VENUS?

By Pete Moore On September 14th, 2020

Eggheads are advancing the idea that there may be life in floating in the clouds of Venus. This is based on finding the gas phosphine in its atmosphere.

On Earth, phosphine is associated with life, with microbes living in the guts of animals like penguins, or in oxygen-poor environments such as swamps.

For sure, you can make it industrially, but there are no factories on Venus; and there are certainly no penguins.

So why is this gas there, 50km up from the planet’s surface? Prof Jane Greaves, from Cardiff University, UK and colleagues are asking just this question.

They’ve published a paper in the journal Nature Astronomy detailing their observations of phosphine at Venus, as well as the investigations they’ve made to try to show this molecule could have a natural, non-biological origin.

It’s an intriguing hypothesis and one I’ve pondered for a good five minutes. My considered conclusion is that there is not life “floating in the clouds of Venus”. Really, what a silly idea. Some people do get carried away.

10 Responses to “IS THERE LIFE ON VENUS?”

  1. Highly unlikely as its the hottest planet in the solar system

  2. What kind of life shall there be for us, here, on this planet? In Australia, an untested concoction shall be coercively injected into humans under a ‘no jab: no pay’ scheme. The UK is intending something at least as coercive as Australia…..

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xBHfWdd0yZw&feature=emb_logo

    and here it is from the UK government’s website:

    https://www.gov.uk/government/consultations/distributing-vaccines-and-treatments-for-covid-19-and-flu/consultation-document-changes-to-human-medicine-regulations-to-support-the-rollout-of-covid-19-vaccines

    The current legal framework already recognises that if manufacturers or healthcare professionals are asked to supply an unlicensed medicine in response to a public health threat, it is unfair also to ask them to take responsibility for the consequences of the use of that medicine in the way that they normally would.

  3. That’s a legitimate issue.

    Except that I would not use the term ” untested ” – which kind of kills your argument.

    Any vaccines will have been tested on humans. The question will be have they been tested enough.

  4. At temperatures hot enough to melt lead, the kind of life that cpuld exist on Venus would certainly like it on the warm side.
    However, despite Pete’s expert opinion, there is a possibility that some form of life as yet unknown to us could exist at these temperatures. Scientists were quite surprised to find life existing at temperatures above 100°C

    https://www.newscientist.com/article/dn4058-hot-bug-extends-temperature-limit-for-life/#:~:text=The%20upper%20temperature%20limit%20at,of%20the%20northeast%20Pacific%20Ocean.

  5. I believe as we expand our reach further and further we will find life is the common factor.

    As Dave points out and Ballard proved decades ago that life not just survives in the extreme heat of volcanic vents in our ocean it thrives.

    The best chance that we know of for complex life right in our solar system is Europa, it’s a water planet covered by ice.

  6. After such a hot humid summer, suddenly the weather here is perfect, below 70 F with cool autumn breezes

    Lots of people by me are outside , just enjoying it

  7. same here beautiful and cool

  8. //Highly unlikely as its the hottest planet in the solar system//

    The higher clouds on Venus have temperatures of only around 30 degrees C. High temperatures doesn’t seem to be such a problem as the high acidic content of the environment. The clouds of Venus are around 90 percent sulphuric acid, whereas on earth the top environmental acidic rate for life is around 5 percent.

    But that doesn’t rule out anything. If there are any organisms on Venus, they may have developed a protective shell or any number of other protections over the millions of years.
    All that the scientists are saying for the moment is that there’s practically no chance of the phosphine they discovered being produced by non-biological means, according to today’s understanding of phosphine chemistry, as non-biological sources could produce only a tiny fraction of the phosphine found.

    The wonderful Lord Rees, Britain’s “Astronomer Royal”, was talking about this on the BBC last night, alas too briefly. A treat to watch and listen to.

    The exciting question, if this is indeed evidence of life, is whether the first molecules on Venus and on earth came from the same source, such as rocks flying through space, or if life developed independently on the two planets. If the former, life may be a very rare thing in the universe. If the latter, it suggests life will evolve in a wide range of environments and the universe must be teeming with the stuff.

  9. The exciting question, if this is indeed evidence of life, is whether the first molecules on Venus and on earth came from the same source, such as rocks flying through space, or if life developed independently on the two planets. If the former, life may be a very rare thing in the universe. If the latter, it suggests life will evolve in a wide range of environments and the universe must be teeming with the stuff.

    Not necessarily. The different types of life may have come from the same source, but reacted in different ways to different circumstances and different chemicals in different atmospheres. The combination of circumstances required to produce life in such abundance and diversity on Earth may only be capable of producing Phosphine in the thick, chemical soup of a super-heated planet like Venus.
    And don’t forget the Goldilocks Effect. Our distance from the Sun is ideal for life of the type that eventually produced us, but had Earth been as close to the Sun as Venus is, that life could never have existed.
    Phosphine may be the best we can ever hope to discover on a Venus-type planet, but wouldn’t it be wonderful if it could be proved to be of a biological nature?

  10. Solar Dust contains the basic ingredients of life. All the base Amino and Nucleic Acids that are the building blocs of Life.

    So think of the Stars as sources themselves constantly spewing out the seeds of life, if they land on a favorable growing medium they grow.

    How many Stars are there?

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