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I’M DONE WITH THE RULES

By Pete Moore On September 15th, 2020

Enough of this nonsense. My country has moved much too far towards East Germany already. I will not comply with this any longer.

The government’s latest wheeze is a “Rule of Six”. The short explanation is that no more than six people can gather in a social setting. The longer explanation is that the details are so opaque and confused no-one understands them, even if they took any notice of them.

Yesterday the Policing minister called on people to inform on others – to the police – who flout the law (this is the law, nodded through Parliament late at night.) No, I will not do that. I am not a sneaky snitch, nor am I a Stasi informant. I know, I’d have been a terrible socialist. It is a horrible suggestion in any country let alone in England.

Today the Home Secretary said that two families of four chatting in the street would constitute a breach of the law. Korf woman! They have gone stark raving mad. Imagine being told, in January this year, that two families chatting on an English street would be breaking the law. You’d wonder what planet you’d woken up on.

The ONS has announced that excess deaths are currently 16% down on the average and that Covid deaths are fewer than deaths from flu and pneumonia. Think, people. We have horrible social restrictions for a virus which has become just another thing which we might catch, is treatable and mild-to-asymptomatic for almost everyone who gets it.

I will no longer comply. Enough with masks and bullshit.

We learned today that alcohol abuse has soared during the lockdown. Of course it has. Some just drank because they didn’t have to get out of bed the next morning (yet more evidence that work is a necessary routine and discipline.) Some of these people developed a habit of needing a drink at night. Some people drank out of worry, drowning their fears for their loved ones or their businesses. You can bet that some hit drugs too. And it’ll go on while we pretend to ourselves that the ‘rona is a deadly thing for which we must take special measures.

The special measures are needed by anyone who can’t see that there is no second wave, that hospitals are empty, that hardly anyone is dying from Covid any longer and that we need to get back to the old normal asap. It’s probably might be too late in any case.

Their is nothing so permanent as a temporary government measure. The politicians and bureaucrats are addicted to their new powers. They’ve become addicted to bossing and hectoring like jumped up little Hitlers. Deep down we can all see it and deep down we all know that the lockdowns were terrible, unnecessary and won’t ever go fully away.

27 Responses to “I’M DONE WITH THE RULES”

  1. Cannot argue with the reasoning, or the conclusions.

    Good post

  2. Pete

    The UK, like the US, has performed miserably on Covid 19. Do we agree on that

    What should you do now to start doing better.

    How would you compare your performance with say western peers Canada and Germany?

  3. What should you do now to start doing better.

    Remove all restrictions, open the economy, get back to a desperately-needed normal and treat the virus as we do flu.

  4. https://twitter.com/webby_73/status/1281987770219626498

  5. who is Webby?

  6. Who Webby is is unimportant. The photo is brutally hilarious.

  7. not without context….. I don’t know who the people are in the photo, but I thought webby might be one of you guys the description fit…. I was going to follow them, but f’em

  8. Here you are, Pat:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fred_West

  9. The UK, like the US, has performed miserably on Covid 19.

    Phantom – what does that mean? Does it mean that the pathogen is an even more deadly killer, really deadly, than every other country for some reason……

    https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/health/coronavirus/steep-drop-hospital-cases-covid-19-scotland-definition-changed-2972198

    The number of patients in hospitals battling Covid-19 has seen a steep drop due to a change in definition on how the Scottish Government reports the figure.

    It has fallen from 262 to 48 – though nobody is dying. There has been a policy throughout the US and UK of overcounting deaths from/with Covid and, now that nobody is dying, of overcounting cases – cases, inconsequential cases, except for people who need medical treatment and cannot get it.

  10. It is not true that no one is dying of Covid now.

    Covid is responsible for the deaths of more police officers than any other cause. Those officers were not old, and a lot of them, not all, were fit.

    Police deal with many members of the general public, as do transit workers, who have also suffered from the disease that you think doesn’t kill anyone.

    The US screwed the pooch on this matter and so did your UK. Not really a debatable point.

    The deaths unfortunately continue

  11. I’m sorry Pete, but there does appear to be a second wave underway in many parts of the world. Israel is going into a second national lockdown and France and Spain have seen alarming surges in the past six weeks. The UK shows every sign of following those countries, just as it did in March-April.

    “The best guide we have to the prevalence of Covid-19 is the Office of National Statistics’ REACT1 study – which involves testing a randomised sample of the population on a regular basis. The most recent figures show a central estimate that 0.126 per cent of the population were infected at some point between 22 August and 7 September. That is a sharp rise from July when 0.04 per cent of the population were estimated to be infected. Along with the 111 data it suggests that the second peak in infections is genuine, and not just a quirk caused by greater testing…”

    https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/the-good-and-bad-news-about-the-second-covid-peak

  12. And here is a cogent defence of the new “rule of six”, based on current infection levels and the risks of an unmanageable second wave. I re-constructed these figures in a spreadsheet and they are correct. (Look up the wheat and chessboard problem if you’ve never heard of it, but basically it’s a simple explanation of the often mis-used word exponential):

    “Covid-19 has potentially exponential characteristics, as we saw earlier in the pandemic after the R value had been out of control. Daily deaths seemed to go from a dozen to 100 to nearly 1,000 in the veritable blink of an eye. Let us conduct a little statistical experiment to highlight what we are dealing with. Suppose that no new restraints are imposed and the R value (which may already be up to 1.7) reaches two for a month or so. Let us further assume an infectivity cycle of half a week and a hospitalisation rate of just three per cent (it may actually be a little higher than that).

    What we get is basically a real-world illustration of the Wheat And Chessboard problem that many of us learned about in our school days – where each square on the board has twice as many grains placed on it as the previous one. We start off with 3,500 confirmed daily cases. After a week, that has become 14,000. Another week on, and it is 56,000. By the time four weeks are up it has hit almost 900,000. Based on our assumptions, the initial 3,500 daily cases will result in just over 100 new hospitalisations per day – about what we’ve got at the moment. But in a month’s time that will have risen to a little shy of 30,000 – completely unsustainable, deaths in the corridors stuff…”

    https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/cut-boris-some-slack-on-the-rule-of-six-

  13. Phantom, on September 15th, 2020 at 11:29 PM Said:

    It is not true that no one is dying of Covid now.

    Covid ranks below 20th in the cause of death in the UK, Australia…..and amazingly, no police in London on active duty have succumbed to the deadly killer which has killed 6 million gazillion in Ireland alone:

    https://twitter.com/simondolan/status/1289831760877019136

    However, given the lockdown of healthy people and the enthusiasm of many here for more, why not just declare the noble aim of eliminating ALL VIRUSES and keep people away from work, family, all other people……until the scourge of viruses is gone?

    As for ‘second wave’, so what! The reality which is now before us is that this pathogen is not dangerous to the vast majority of people.

  14. Allan

    Please check my 1.16 and state where you disagree. Can you also confirm for the record that you are against all measures to restrict the spread of this disease and what number of UK deaths per month you would be comfortable with.

  15. Here is an instructive contrast between Madrid and New York. Both suffered badly in the spring wave, but after lockdowns they differed in how and when they reopened, particularly with indoor dining, and also in the extent to which they enforced the restrictions after lockdown was eased.

    The result is that NYC still has the pandemic at near zero levels while Madrid is suffering a serious second wave.

    https://twitter.com/_MiguelHernan/status/1304424019450630144?campaign_id=116&emc=edit_pk_20200915&instance_id=22208&nl=paul-krugman&regi_id=92386359&segment_id=38113&te=1&user_id=88a853b48475ac441e2bca51f72ddacb

  16. Allan

    Both you and I share one trait with all the others here- We are not trained in medicine or in communicable disease.

    Those who are truly knowledgeable about viruses and disease are quite concerned about this novel virus.

    Consider for a moment the possibility that they may be correct in some of their concerns

  17. Peter

    Might other factors be in play as well in Madrid?

    Taiwan, Singapore Korea etc have had restored indoor dining – with protocols – for some time, and their results are good.

  18. Phantom

    The linked article also points out that Madrid has far fewer tracers employed than NYC and that the eased up restrictions were not enforced so that crowded bars and restaurants were common. NYC will allow 25% capacity in restaurants from the end of this month but Madrid allowed 60% from mid July and then didn’t enforce the limit.

  19. Ahh

    And the Asians of course have been no nonsense as respects mask wearing ( zero wringing there ) , temperature checks, contact tracing, all of it

  20. And the Asians of course have been no nonsense as respects mask wearing ( zero wringing there ) , temperature checks, contact tracing, all of it

    Yes. Ironically, Mr. Moore is the biggest covid bedwetting cry-baby of them all.

  21. I “ get “ many things that I don’t agree with.

    But I don’t understand for one minute the politically based opposition to masks.

    FYI

    I have a lot of time for Dr Osterholm,

    https://bringmethenews.com/minnesota-news/osterholm-stop-mischaracterizing-my-comments-about-face-masks

  22. The pandemic has highlighted the deep cultural differences between Asian societies and Western societies. Asians are more cohesive and disciplined and have no tradition of individualism. The USA is the most extreme example of a society based on individualism, which made it uniquely vulnerable to a pandemic which required constraints on individual freedom. This was exacerbated by the culture warrier in the White House.

  23. Peter

    Entirely correct

    And again, as stated before, in Japan there was minimal to no regulation or enforcement of mask wearing or the other things. It was pretty much all peer pressure, but even that wasn’t much needed – the Japanese person wants to protect his family and neighbor, wants to do the right thing. You don’t need to force him to do anything.

    And masks were already a custom as was of course bowing ( not hand shaking ). And they’re clean freaks as well, washing hands a lot is what they already do.They had every base covered on this.

    We can learn from them. As we head into flu season and the second wave of Covid, we as individuals and nations need to look around and see what works and what does not work.

    No shame in copying a good practice from another country

  24. Trump now says that “herd mentality” will beat the virus. You know it makes sense:

    “In an interview with Bob Woodward for the reporter’s new book, Donald Trump admitted he had “played down” the coronavirus threat. At a town hall hosted by ABC on Tuesday, the president contradicted himself, claiming – falsely – that he had in fact “up-played it, in terms of action.” Trump also said repeatedly that the virus would ultimately go away thanks to “herd mentality”. It was unclear whether he meant to say “herd immunity”.

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/sep/16/first-thing-trump-says-covid-19-could-be-stopped-by-herd-mentality

  25. Trump now says that “herd mentality” will beat the virus.

    Then Trump’s followers will be OK because they all have a herd mentality.

  26. I will no longer comply. Enough with masks and bullshit.

    Except you do put a mask on when you go into shops. Don’t you Pete.

  27. It is noted that the highest rate of new US Covid deaths is in the ” ain’t wearing no mask ” states of North and South Dakota, and in the South etc.

    Mississippi has a rate of 3.7 deaths per 100,000 over the last seven days, NY state has 0.1 deaths in the same period.

    NY’s experience was learned the hard way. Learn from our painful experience.

    Wear that mask, if you care about your neighbor.

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