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LIES, DAMNED LIES AND FALSE POSITIVES

By Pete Moore On September 20th, 2020

This piece is an absolute must-read, particularly for anyone under the misapprehension that the Wuhan Flu is surging back. The PCR test used to detect “cases” is so hopelessly inaccurate that it should not be used at all, according to the author. That author is a biomedical research scientist, Dr Mike Yeadon. Using the government’s own statistics, he estimates that “false positive” tests are in the range of 89-94%.

21 Responses to “LIES, DAMNED LIES AND FALSE POSITIVES”

  1. fix your title

  2. Thanks, now you fix yours.

  3. Pete – within your link is……

    We now know that lockdown made no difference at all to the spread of the virus. We can tell this because the interval between catching the virus and, in those who don’t make it, their death is longer than the interval between lockdown and peak daily deaths. There isn’t any controversy about this fact, easily demonstrated, but I’m aware some people like to pretend it was lockdown that turned the pandemic, perhaps to justify the extraordinary price we have all paid to do it.

    One must ask the lockdowners at ATW (Phantom, Peter et al) exactly why they still support the lockdown? Way back at the beginning of this hoax, I pointed out that there is a petri-dish – the Diamond Princess

    https://www.foxnews.com/us/cruise-ship-data-helps-reveal-coronavirus-death-rate-researchers

    An examination of ship data concludes that widely-reported death rates are simplistic and too high, because people with mild symptoms often don’t bother to come in for testing and don’t get counted.

    But on the Diamond Princess cruise ship, mild cases weren’t missed, because every passenger and crew member was tested a month ago.

    Most people on the ship experienced the coronavirus as either a normal cold, or less. In a CDC press briefing last week, U.S. officials noted, “we have seen this especially in patients from the Diamond Princess cruise ship where a significant number of people have had very mild illness and don’t feel particularly bad.”

    Out of the 697 who tested positive a month ago, seven people have died on the Diamond Princess cruise ship, 15 remain in critical condition, and 30 were once in critical condition but have improved, according to Japan’s Ministry of Health, Labor, and Welfare. A further 388 have recovered.

    All seven deaths so far were of passengers aged 70 or older.

    https://www.statnews.com/2020/03/17/a-fiasco-in-the-making-as-the-coronavirus-pandemic-takes-hold-we-are-making-decisions-without-reliable-data/

    Projecting the Diamond Princess mortality rate onto the age structure of the U.S. population, the death rate among people infected with Covid-19 would be 0.125%.

    As we know, the vast majority of those whose deaths are attributed to Covid are over 80, particularly backed by data from Italy.

    But the ‘authorities’ aren’t letting go. There’s the ‘second wave’…….

    As there is no foundational, medical or scientific literature which tells us to expect a ‘second wave’, I began to pay more attention to the phrase as it appeared on TV, radio and print media – all on the same day – and has been relentlessly repeated ever since. I was interviewed recently by Julia Hartley-Brewer on her talkRADIO show and on that occasion I called on the Government to disclose to us the evidence upon which they were relying to predict this second wave. Surely they have some evidence? I don’t think they do. I searched and am very qualified to do so, drawing on academic friends, and we were all surprised to find that there is nothing at all.

    Phantom – what is the scientific basis of this second wave?

  4. I don’t support tight lockdowns

    I support mask wearing, hand washing, proper rules in all indoor spaces, and a greater opening up than what we’ve seen in much of the US.

    Over the past weekend, I’ve traveled to Pennsylvania and to Nassau County NY

    Two weeks ago, I flew to North Carolina for a wedding, staying over for three nights.

    I have pushed for restaurants to reopen for indoor dining, and I am now pushing for workers to return to offices, with controls.

    You think that anyone who takes this seriously wants to lock people in their homes. That’s the last thing that I want. The Taiwanese Japanese and Koreans are not locked up. We need to learn from them, not listen to the anti mask and anti science know nothings

  5. and whilst the authorities won’t relent on this hoax, neither do their mouthpieces. Here is Reuters doing a ‘fact-checking’ on the PCR test which, as one sees, is a pack of lies:

    https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-factcheck-pcr-idUSKBN24420X

    Social media users have been sharing a quote attributed to the inventor of the Polymerase Chain Reaction (PCR) test, currently being used to detect COVID-19, which says “PCR tests cannot detect free infectious viruses at all”. This quote has been falsely attributed to the inventor, Kary Mullis, and has been taken out of context to falsify its original meaning.

    What Mullis wrote was……

    https://uncoverdc.com/2020/04/07/was-the-covid-19-test-meant-to-detect-a-virus/

    From an email from Kary Mullis, to the widow of boxer Tommy Morrison, whose career and life were destroyed by an “HIV test,” and who litigated ferociously for years, against test manufacturers, Dr. Mullis wrote, on May 7, 2013:

    “PCR detects a very small segment of the nucleic acid which is part of a virus itself. The specific fragment detected is determined by the somewhat arbitrary choice of DNA primers used which become the ends of the amplified fragment. “

    If things were done right, “infection” would be a far cry from a positive PCR test.

    “You have to have a whopping amount of any organism to cause symptoms. Huge amounts of it,” Dr. David Rasnick, bio-chemist, protease developer, and former founder of an EM lab called Viral Forensics told me. “You don’t start with testing; you start with listening to the lungs. I’m skeptical that a PRC test is ever true. It’s a great scientific research tool. It’s a horrible tool for clinical medicine. 30% of your infected cells have been killed before you show symptoms. By the time you show symptoms…the dead cells are generating the symptoms.”

    I asked Dr. Rasnick what advice he has for people who want to be tested for COVID-19.
    “Don’t do it, I say, when people ask me,” he replies. “No healthy person should be tested. It means nothing but it can destroy your life, make you absolutely miserable.”

    So much for Reuters ‘fact-checking’. They are diversionists from the core fact as made clear by the late Dr Kary Mullis, and now it’s becoming clear from the hoax test results en masse

  6. …..not listen to the anti mask and anti science know nothings

    Phantom – what is the scientific basis of this second wave?

    Phantom – what is the scientific basis of mask-wearing? Show me

  7. Look at the results from Asia vs the sad sack US and UK

    You guys never want to talk about Asian countries for some reason

    And listen to Fauci and Osterholm…

  8. Allan

    Just for the record, you oppose all attempts to restrict the spread oof this virus, and are content to see whatever death toll it produces, whether in care homes, hospitals or anywhere else.

    And you also believe that it’s either a total “hoax” (just like cliamte change) or manufactured and deliberately released by China. I’m not sure which of those conspiracies you subscribe to, maybe both?

    And that vaccinations do not provide any defence against any diseases including this (non-existent) one.

    Can you also confirm that you are a Q-Anon follower, because you sure as hell sound like one.

  9. For the education of Allan and the little Allans here

    Why East Asians Were Wearing Masks Long Before Covid 19

    Cho, the college student from South Korea, had stopped wearing masks since emigrating to the U.S. She’s more than happy to wear one for as long as she needs to now.

    She admits that she looks at the anti-masker movement sometimes and wonders why so many are wasting their energy on the issue.

    “Why protest over something that keeps yourself and others safe?” she said. “Masks are not political, and neither are the health and safety of others.”

  10. the anti-masker movement

    🙂 🙂

    Masks do not keep the wearer safe. They restrict natural air-flow and, in the chronically unhealthy – you’ll see these idiots at Walmart/Asda – will cause severe respirational problems attributed to Covid. After all, if car crash victims can be Covid-deaths, so can the wheezy mask-wearers. These fools need fresh air, yet refuse it.

    Btw when I was driving through the city centre, I observed this behemoth at the bus stop fitting her mask and one can only conclude that these creatures fail to grasp the visible fact that the biggest threat to themselves is what they see in the mirror: themselves.

    As for seeing cyclists with masks on……

    https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32590322/

    Exercising with facemasks may reduce available Oxygen and increase air trapping preventing substantial carbon dioxide exchange. The hypercapnic hypoxia may potentially increase acidic environment, cardiac overload, anaerobic metabolism and renal overload, which may substantially aggravate the underlying pathology of established chronic diseases

    https://www.technocracy.news/masks-are-neither-effective-nor-safe-a-summary-of-the-science/?print=print

    The New England Journal of Medicine editorial on the topic of mask use versus Covid-19 assesses the matter as follows:

    “We know that wearing a mask outside health care facilities offers little, if any, protection from infection. Public health authorities define a significant exposure to Covid-19 as face-to-face contact within 6 feet with a patient with symptomatic Covid-19 that is sustained for at least a few minutes (and some say more than 10 minutes or even 20 minutes). The chance of catching Covid-19 from a passing interaction in a public space is therefore minimal. In many cases, the desire for widespread masking is a reflexive reaction to anxiety over the pandemic.” (29)

  11. The purpose of mask wearing by the general public is not to protect the wearer.

    How many times do we have to tell you this.

  12. And you also believe that it’s either a total “hoax” (just like cliamte change) or manufactured and deliberately released by China. I’m not sure which of those conspiracies you subscribe to, maybe both?

    And that vaccinations do not provide any defence against any diseases including this (non-existent) one.

    Peter – psychologists, generally a disreputable bunch but occasionally hitting something relevant, have come across what is termed the ‘mere exposure’ effect

    https://psycnet.apa.org/record/1968-12019-001

    Basically, the more you see or hear something, you more you like it. In other words, we tend to like things more when they’re familiar to us (even if they’re familiar for an absurd reason). In the original demonstration of this effect, Robert Zajonc showed his participants images that they didn’t already have extreme reactions to (e.g. foreign words, Chinese characters, or faces of strangers).

    These participants were asked to just rate how pleasant the images were. Now, some of the participants were seeing the image for the first time when they rated it, but other participants had already seen the image before. Some people had seen it just one time, some people had seen it a few times, and some people had seen it as many as 25 times. The results were clear: the more they had already been exposed to the image, the more they said they liked it. Over the years, psychologists have shown that this happens for a range of stimuli, including paintings, colors, flavors, geometric figures…….and suggestions such as ‘climate change’. The more times people had been exposed to the stimulus, the more they ended up liking it.

    Global warming used to be the most obvious example of this technique in application, but now the best example is coronavirus. Coronavirus is actually more stupid and more obviously false. Global warming relies on alleging a phenomenon you’re not supposed to be able to see (weather change over decades) whilst, with coronavirus, they’re telling you that masses of people are dying from a disease all around you even when you should be able to look around and see this isn’t happening!! Look at Phantom for example. He claims that his friends and relatives are dropping like flies and he had to go to Florida for a funeral. That’s like me having to find a deceased friend/relative in Spain because none are dropping dead anywhere near me.

    Phantom, on September 20th, 2020 at 7:56 PM Said:

    I knew someone, who died from Covid in Florida, two weeks ago.

    I attended the funeral yesterday.

  13. I didn’t say that people are dropping like flies.

    And I didn’t say that I went to Florida for a funeral. The service was not in Florida.

    Jesus H, don’t quit your day job. You’d be a terrible detective, or scientist.

  14. Died from Covid – in Florida? How old? How ill?

    I hope that my friends and relatives in Spain are OK as nobody here in the UK that I know has died, or even fallen ill. It just shows the insidious nature of this terrible disease: nobody knows that they have it, until they’re over 80

  15. I didn’t say that people are dropping like flies.

    OK – so how deadly is this scourge compared with colds and flu? Does it merit closing down the entire economy and its support for health services, and shutting down the health services for cancer screening, heart disease, chronic maladies etc?

  16. I don’t support shutting down the British economy or anybody else’s economy

    I support doing what the Taiwanese Japanese Koreans and Singaporeans are doing. Those people are working in their offices, riding their subways, and are eating in restaurants

    How many times do you have to be told

  17. Phantom – somebody whom you know died from Covid in Florida. Florida is a well-known location for retirement so, obvious pertinent question – how old?

    Masks harm the wearer: only idiots comply

    https://www.technocracy.news/masks-are-neither-effective-nor-safe-a-summary-of-the-science/?print=print

    Are masks effective at preventing transmission of respiratory pathogens?

    In this meta-analysis, face masks were found to have no detectable effect against transmission of viral infections. (1) It found: “Compared to no masks, there was no reduction of influenza-like illness cases or influenza for masks in the general population, nor in healthcare workers.”

    This 2020 meta-analysis found that evidence from randomized controlled trials of face masks did not support a substantial effect on transmission of laboratory-confirmed influenza, either when worn by infected persons (source control) or by persons in the general community to reduce their susceptibility. (2)

    Another recent review found that masks had no effect specifically against Covid-19, although facemask use seemed linked to, in 3 of 31 studies, “very slightly reduced” odds of developing influenza-like illness. (3)

    This 2019 study of 2862 participants showed that both N95 respirators and surgical masks “resulted in no significant difference in the incidence of laboratory confirmed influenza.” (4)

    This 2016 meta-analysis found that both randomized controlled trials and observational studies of N95 respirators and surgical masks used by healthcare workers did not show benefit against transmission of acute respiratory infections. It was also found that acute respiratory infection transmission “may have occurred via contamination of provided respiratory protective equipment during storage and reuse of masks and respirators throughout the workday.” (5)

    A 2011 meta-analysis of 17 studies regarding masks and effect on transmission of influenza found that “none of the studies established a conclusive relationship between mask/respirator use and protection against influenza infection.” (6) However, authors speculated that effectiveness of masks may be linked to early, consistent and correct usage.

    Face mask use was likewise found to be not protective against the common cold, compared to controls without face masks among healthcare workers. (7)

  18. She was above retirement age. And healthy as a horse until the virus came.

    You guys dismiss the early deaths of older people, and I don’t quite understand that at all

    Keep reading your conspiracy sites like that one.

    It’s a conspiracy.

  19. No Phantom – the deaths of older folks aren’t dismissed, but being older IS a health issue which is inescapable, and we’ll all be older.

    Which conspiracy site are you bringing up now? I thought that Alex Jones had been shut down?

  20. “The PCR test used to detect “cases” is so hopelessly inaccurate that it should not be used at all”

    The PCR test is OK, but all tests are subject to the base rate fallacy if the prevalence is low.

    That is, most tests can be expected to be false positives even if the test is very accurate in an individual case, providing the prevalence in the whole population is low enough:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Base_rate_fallacy

    All of which is irrelevant as the issue is not the number of cases but the direction of travel – in particular the doubling time.

    Also if you think that experts in the field don’t know about the base rate fallacy, and any shortcomings of the PCR test that you as a blogger are aware of, then you’re a fucking idiot.

  21. The whole world is fighting the spread of COVID-19, including many countries that don’t get along with each other at all and countries with vastly different rates of testing. There is no way that a false positive rate within a small band around 90 percent could obtain across the world without someone noticing it, before the author of the linked article.