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ORWELL DIDN’T KNOW THE HALF OF IT

By Pete Moore On November 27th, 2020

Every day I think that news headlines cannot possibly become more Kafkaesque. Every day they become more Kafkaesque.

Tier 2 rules means diners and drinkers must leave pubs and restaurants once food is finished

Apparently some pubs, somewhere, are allowed to open but only if they serve food. Don’t ask me. I was past looking at these absurd details in the summer. Lunatics are best ignored sometimes. But the Prime Minister’s spokesman has said, actually said, that you’re not allowed to drink once your meal is finished.

Oewell, eat your heart out.

17 Responses to “ORWELL DIDN’T KNOW THE HALF OF IT”

  1. It always amazes me, when people try to equate the actions of the UK government to those of the dystopian society depicted in George Orwell’s 1984.
    What it says to me is that they haven’t actually read the book.
    I do agree though, that the government ridiculous rules on pubs are completely illogical.

  2. I like the pub in Brighton that plans to serve an ale with the name “Substantial Meal’ to stick to the letter of the law 😊

  3. What it says to me is that they haven’t actually read the book.

    Some of us have read the book and seen what’s going on around us now.

  4. What it says to me is that they haven’t actually read the book

    I used to love Harri’s gem of wisdom that he got from a meme:

    ‘Orwell wrote the book and governments are using it for a blueprint’

  5. Some of us have read the book and seen what’s going on around us now.

    Yes. We’re just one step away from having government sanctioned rat cage head cosies.

  6. Some of us have read the book and seen what’s going on around us now.

    Indeed, your mastery of Newspeak is astounding.

  7. Lunatics are best ignored sometimes.

    Which is what I have been doing. 😉

    I understand that it also has to be a ‘substantial meal’. Whatever that means ??

    The nest time the PM, MP’s and his advisors enter the Palace of Westminster, we should just lock the gates and declare it a mental asylum.

  8. We’re still a very long way from 1984, and the irony of Pete, propagandist extraordinaire, and arch distorter of fact and rewriter of history, commenting on Orwell’s warnings is just another of the bizarre ironies we’ve become used to from that quarter.

    Still, Orwell was a traditionalist and loved rural England, and while he accepted much deeper state powers, like blackouts and rationing and commandeering of property and propaganda, during the war years, he probably would have thought some of the restrictions being imposed now are totally disproportionate.

    I was thinking yesterday that from a purely social utilitarian pov, this pandemic is a godsend, or will be if the virus is allowed thrive and propagate and do its work unhindered.
    For decades, the population has been ageing, too many old folk living seemingly forever and far too few children being born, with the resultant burden on society, the economy and future generations. The virus generally kills the old and infirm; in former days there were always other plagues and diseases that had the same culling effect.

    The continuing vast poverty in the world and the vulnerability of food supply and the general logistics of our economy mean the Malthusian trap is still open for us. With gross global overpopulation and mass immigration in all directions, it only takes a regional war or some large natural disaster for the trap to snap shut. I reckon if that were to happen, Corona suddenly wouldn’t be Public Enemy No. 1 after all.

  9. Always nice to see revolutionary socialist George Orwell referenced on ATW.

  10. Still, Orwell was a traditionalist

    Yes, so much so in fact that he fought for the radical Marxist POUM popular militia in the Spanish Civil War.

  11. //Yes, so much so in fact that he fought for the radical Marxist POUM popular militia in the Spanish Civil War.//

    Paul, there was, and is, no contradiction. Socialists used to be, and still should be, traditionalists. They had a fondness for the simple rural or urban life, supported traditional urban working-class people and their culture and held farmers and traditional country folk in high esteem. Just look at socialist propaganda pictures. What are the plough and the hammer and sickle if not symbols of a traditional pure lifestyle?

    https://i.pinimg.com/originals/26/c8/ce/26c8ceb82f6702005f9f6e0441d09d7e.jpg

    They also had a natural distain for opulence and glamour and greed. The traditional simple life is best and simplicity is socialist.

    Let’s not see a tough Belfast lad fall for the stupidity of US definitions or the modern whims of “left-wing” hedonism. That’s decadence and socialists were always against that kind of thing.

  12. Paul, there was, and is, no contradiction. Socialists used to be, and still should be, traditionalists.

    But we’re not talking about socialism, Noel.

    Of course there’s a contradiction. The POUM were radical Marxists who wanted to transform the very fabric of traditional Spanish society.

  13. //Of course there’s a contradiction. The POUM were radical Marxists //

    Orwell joined the POUM only by chance, as he said himself. He fought in Spain “for the cause of common decency”. One interesting episode in Homage to Catalonia, I thought, was the scene where he refused to fire on a fascist soldier who he saw across no-man’s land come running out of a latrine holding his trousers around his knees after the Republicans had fired with artillery. He loved plain speech and “the honesty of a horse’s sneeze”. Throughout his life, in all his writings, you can see his affection for the traditional and simple life, whether in an urban or a rural context. In fact, I’d say that his socialism came from his traditionalism. His love for the English countryside and its farmers and animals and the English way of life is one of the few things that remained constant all his life, or at least is present in all the GO books I’ve ever read.

  14. Yes I know but he did and remained with them right up until their illegalisation in 37.

    Orwell was also absolutely opposed to the disbandment of the POUM and the even more radical anarchist CNT popular militias. Hardly the views of a traditionalist in Spanish societal terms?

    In the context of his socialism, Orwell also defended the merits of a Constitutional Monarchy. Hardly traditionalist socialist opinion?

    I think Orwell was conflicted in his ‘traditionalism’ and think that describing him as a supporter of some traditions rather than a ‘traditionalist’ per se might be more accurate.

  15. I think it would be safer to regard Orwell as a brilliant independent thinker, who felt no need to ally with any single specific political orthodoxy or movement. He felt no need to reject Constitutional monarchy while supporting socialism , seeing in his opinion the merits of both for respectively stability and progress .

  16. // He felt no need to reject Constitutional monarchy while supporting socialism//

    Right. And who wouldn’t prefer an upright and benevolent monarch over a corrupt and self-serving president. If you look at the worst individuals in the top political office in various countries, almost all of them are or were presidents or PMs. What monarch on earth today is worse than Kim Jong Un or Saddam or Putin or Trump?
    ibn Abd al-Aziz of Saudi is the only crown in that large league.

  17. Petr Tarasov,

    Always nice to see revolutionary socialist George Orwell referenced on
    ATW.

    What a truly brilliant comment Petr.