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One of those things that never happened

By Patrick Van Roy On December 1st, 2020

The US has a copy of the traffic and the packets of information that were sent to Germany on Election night!

Yesterday, the first expert at the Arizona State Legislature hearing with Rudy Giuliani was US cybersecurity expert Colonel Phil Waldron.

Colonel Phil Waldron spoke first at the Arizona hearing about the voting machines used in US elections. These are the same machines used in Venezuela by Chavez. The Dominion systems were connected to the Internet as well, despite Dominion’s claims to the contrary.

70 Responses to “One of those things that never happened”

  1. Holy conspiracy Batman!

    Good thing we have Gateway Pundit!

    Real journalism is not dead!

    No one fools them!!

  2. Yeah, like the copy of whatever was allegedly on Biden Jr’s computer.

    ZZZZZZZZZZZ.

  3. So the live testimony video means nothing….. oh it’s not in the NYTs it didn’t happen those packets of voting data going to Frankfurt Germany aren’t the votes we’re looking for move along…..

    That’s what you just said and did Phantom

    how sad

  4. Give it up Patrick. Even William Barr is now saying there was no significant fraud !

  5. Retired Colonel Phil Waldron

  6. I am praising Gateway Pundit with maximum sincerity

    They all deserve Pulitzers

  7. Barr isn’t working on the computer system, so he hasn’t seen enough fraud yet to flip states but that comment will dominate the news.

    No gentleman you miss the point totally.

    The cyber security expert said they were monitoring it live…. info going to Frankfurt GERMANY you know where those servers never were seized.

  8. Oh it’s not in the NYTs it didn’t happen

    In all fairness it was in the NYP and it didn’t happen either.

  9. ok…..

  10. The cyber guy apparently is someone named Philip Waldron

    What are his qualifications

    I see many references to him as an expert on junk right wing websites but see no such references in cyber-security or tech websites.

  11. “So the live testimony video means nothing”

    It does mean something. I believe that Retired Colonel Phil Waldron did say those words. “Yes, our “White” hat hackers, they have that traffic and the packets.”

    So who are our white hat hackers? CIA / FBI / US Military ? Some other branch of government? Or some private group?

    With the whole Germany server thing the story keeps changing.

    It was Scytl. It was Dominion. It was a CIA server. It was some other branch of the deep state. It was a US Army raid. It was a CIA raid. People were killed. We didn’t get the server, we just monitored that traffic to the server.

    But this guy doesn’t say who the white hat hackers are. If we have really had this information since the count in early November why has no-one actually produced it?

  12. look him up Cybersecurity expert and retired army colonel Phil Waldron

  13. I did look him up. I don’t see references to him anywhere other than recent references on junk websites like Gateway Pundit.

    No professional references found.

    Again, what makes you think that this guy is any sort of an expert.

    Why do we believe anything that he says here

  14. Look him up Cybersecurity expert and retired army colonel Phil Waldron

    I did and am still no better informed of his professional cyber credentials nor qualifications.

    The Gateway Pundit seems to habitually lie, though:

    https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/the-gateway-pundit/

  15. There apparently was military team monitoring the election. Right now there are 3 different stories as to why and exactly who…. to many different threads to pull to fast at the moment, but somebody was watching….. who and why needs to be answered.

    I haven’t seen a story that makes sense, but the testimony confirms the monitoring.

  16. NYTs/BBC/WaPo said for 4yrs there was Russian collusion…. I don’t believe “credibility” exists in the any newsroom…. you have to look for preponderance of evidence by following threads in ALL the publications because they all only tell you what they want you to think.

  17. There apparently was military team monitoring the election

    I haven’t seen a story that makes sense, but the testimony confirms the monitoring.

    Not exactly compelling evidence of either the above or your man Waldron.

  18. “I haven’t seen a story that makes sense”

    Don’t let that stop you posting about it.

  19. oh it won’t few

  20. Paul your getting pieces as I get them.

    At least your getting them. Right now I have live testimony playing on the radio of the Pennsylvania hearing of one person after another to the fraud they witnessed firsthand under oath and in court….. no news site is airing it…. yes these are gatway pundit… it’s a rag, but the links are to live hearings….. People giving evidence in court of massive fraud

    now you can poo poo it all you want, but in the Legal System it’s called evidence that I’m providing you access to…. how many people in spain have that?

    https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/12/watch-live-usps-whistleblowers-come-forward-driver-delivered-hundreds-thousands-completed-ballots-across-three-state-lines/?utm_source=Parler&utm_campaign=websitesharingbuttons

    here a different source, but still testimony evidence in court

    https://rumble.com/vbiui3-michigan-witness-says-all-military-ballots-looked-like-xerox-copies-had-zer.html?mref=22lbp&mc=56yab

  21. Right now I have live testimony playing on the radio of the Pennsylvania hearing of one person after another to the fraud they witnessed firsthand under oath and in court

    None of the above links are of any witnesses giving oath-bound testimony in court. One is of some guy making allegations at a press conference and the other is some gal making allegations at a partisan political hearing.

  22. Patrick

    I love the way you posted Frankfurt, GERMANY !

    As opposed to all the other Frankfurts we might have confused it with 😙

  23. Here’s another classy member of the Trump legal team.

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/dec/01/trump-lawyer-joe-digenova-election-security-chief-chris-krebs-shot

  24. Criminality from top to bottom.

    And they’re really furious that the Democrat and Republican state officials in Georgia, Arizona, Pennsylvania etc didn’t go along with their fake bullshit stolen election yarn.

  25. could have been a Frankfurter HotDog Colm……

    Look you can deny anything was crooked all you want, but piece by piece inch by inch this is playing out.

    There was massive Fraud and that is being proven today in several courts all over the country today. The evidence against the machines hasn’t even been presented yet.

    None of this may change the election, Biden may be President, but to deny the massive fraud no matter who wins you are saying screw it, that you don’t care that your vote means anything. If that’s the case then your opinion on any kind of politics is irrelevant because all you are is a powerless subject.

    If the only thing that comes out of this going back to paper ballots that’s a victory, but I think Trump is going to pull it off.

  26. Sure.

    No evidence for it, but if it’s fun to say ” massive fraud “, then keep saying it.

    Allan approves!

  27. ELECTION WHISTLEBLOWER. Jesse Morgan—a truck driver (subcontractor) with USPS in PENNSYLVANIA…

    https://parler.com/post/2dbfe41a9de648a5bcff2610886559e2

    https://parler.com/post/7e2b44c0e17d4a67ae42f25474ec36e3

  28. Every single ballot that is illegitimate should be tossed out. The trouble with the Trump campaign is that they just can’t seem to be able to find authentic batches of fraudulently cast ballots to convince any court.

  29. ELECTION WHISTLEBLOWER. Jesse Morgan—a truck driver (subcontractor) with USPS in PENNSYLVANIA…

    Is it oathbound testimony in a court of law?

    But piece by piece inch by inch this is playing out

    Balls.

    None of this may change the election, Biden may be President, but to deny the massive fraud no matter who wins you are saying screw it, that you don’t care that your vote means anything.

    And there it is, that’s what’s being set up for the next four years. When this baseless balls falls flat on its face because of groundless accusations it’ll be ‘he may be POTUS but he won it by fraud’

    Watch this space.

  30. @Squadica65
    4 minutes ago
    #USPS is guilty if #Treason and #ElectionFraud

    Now the crackheads think that the Post Office is guilty of ” treason ”

    Execute the mailman.

    That’s what they’ve come to.

    You’d better watch what you say on parler. I warned you about their terms and conditions.
    Very unwise to interact with that site.

  31. Let’s look at the material being revealed:

    https://spectator.org/pennsylvania-bombshell-biden-99-4-vs-trump-0-6/

    There are landslides and then there are landslides. There are lopsided votes and then there are lopsided votes. There are egregious examples of vote manipulation and then there are really egregious examples of vote manipulation. What surfaced during hearings in Gettysburg, Pennsylvania, on November 25, 2020, may set the standard for electoral outrageousness. An expert testifying to the Pennsylvania Senate flagged a batch of ballots that recorded some 570,000 votes for Joe Biden and only 3,200 for Donald Trump.

    Yes, you read that correctly. That would equate to Joe Biden bagging 99.4 percent of that enormous chunk of votes. That one batch alone would have flipped the state to Biden.

    This bombshell was dropped last Wednesday at the Wyndham Hotel in Gettysburg. The November 25 hearings, which began at 12:30 p.m. and ran for nearly four hours, were convened at the request of Sen. Doug Mastriano (R-Adams, Cumberland, Franklin, and York counties). It was sponsored by the Senate Majority Policy Committee, chaired by Sen. David Argall (R-Berks/Schuylkill). Mastriano has called what happened “unacceptable,” and has called for the resignation of Pennsylvania Secretary of State Kathy Boockvar.

    Amber Phillips
    5 days ago
    Twitter suspended Senator Mastriano’s personal account. A sure sign that he’s on the right side of the fight and honestly, a badge of honor.

    Regardless of what evidence comes out, the fundamental fact as seen from this and other items is that Phantom, Paul and others are not interested in any of it because the ‘result’ as it is at the moment would see Donald Trump beaten – and nothing else matters: nothing else

    For the record, likewise egregious voter spikes have reportedly occurred in Michigan, Georgia, and Wisconsin. One analysis has targeted these four incidents of “voter updates”:

    1. An update in Michigan listed as of 6:31AM Eastern Time on November 4th, 2020, which shows 141,258 votes for Joe Biden and 5,968 votes for Donald Trump

    2. An update in Wisconsin listed as 3:42AM Central Time on November 4th, 2020, which shows 143,379 votes for Joe Biden and 25,163 votes for Donald Trump

    3. A vote update in Georgia listed at 1:34AM Eastern Time on November 4th, 2020, which shows 136,155 votes for Joe Biden and 29,115 votes for Donald Trump

    4. An update in Michigan listed as of 3:50AM Eastern Time on November 4th, 2020, which shows 54,497 votes for Joe Biden and 4,718 votes for Donald Trump

    Here is an affidavit from…..Russell Ramsland of Allied Security Systems concerning the election fraud that took place in the 2020 election in Michigan was released. In the affidavit Ramsland shows the physical improbabilities of the election results there.

    https://thespectator.info/2020/11/19/election-fraud-expert-russ-ramsland-files-affidavit-showing-physical-impossibility-of-election-results-in-michigan/

    4/ “Until the tabulated voter turnout reached approximately 83%, Trump was generally winning between 55% and 60% of every turnout point. Then, after the counting was closed at 2:00 am, the situation dramatically reserved itself, starting with a series of impossible spikes.”

    5/ “The final red flag is perhaps the greatest. In the data are 4 spikes totaling 384, 733 ballots allegedly processed in a combined interval of only 2 hours and 38 minutes. This is physically impossible given the available equipment at the 4 reference locations.”

    This is on an affidavit – legal evidence – which shall be placed before a court in public view. To many Americans including several here, getting Trump out trumps legality and constitutional procedures.

  32. you see I’ll say this now….. If Joe Biden wins I will never say he won it by fraud even if it is later proven that it was fraud….. “who ever gets to take the Oath on the 20th Won by hook or crook doesn’t matter they’re President”….. an unclaimed quote by Nixon in regard to JFK.

    It’s the truth……..

  33. Allan they can’t handle video you expect them to read ?

  34. I LOVE HER! ELECTION WHISTLEBLOWER. #michigan

    https://parler.com/post/62f4f06f43924172802e4bd67124b52e

  35. This is amazing…….

    https://twitter.com/kylenabecker/status/1327511568993701888

    Kyle Becker
    @kylenabecker
    ·
    14 Nov
    DOMINION.
    🗳️

    “We began to look and realized how easy it is to change votes.”

    Election security expert @RussRamsland
    has performed many investigations on US election machines.

    The most *shocking* thing about this interview is it took place just days BEFORE the election.

    In full view, with no security and software easily manipulable, all data goes from the US to Frankfurt – as stated in the interview linked above.

  36. “https://thespectator.info/2020/11/19/election-fraud-expert-russ-ramsland-files-affidavit-showing-physical-impossibility-of-election-results-in-michigan/”

    Bullshit. At that link we see Minnesota counties listed as Michigan counties. This has already been debunked in multiple places.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2020/11/20/trump-campaigns-much-hyped-affidavit-features-big-glaring-error/

  37. washington post said Trump colluded with russians for 4 years that wasn’t true either

  38. It’s getting worse……..

    https://spectator.org/legitimacy-of-biden-win-buried-by-objective-data/

    Among the analysts who question the legitimacy of Biden’s victory is Dr. Navid Keshavarz-Nia, a cybersecurity expert whose technical expertise was touted by the New York Times last September and who has been described as a hero in the Washington Monthly. It’s unlikely that either publication will be singing his praises for his work pursuant to the recent election. His damning analysis of the electronic manipulation of votes that occurred in the early hours of November 4 appears in a sworn affidavit included with C.J. Pearson v. Kemp, a lawsuit filed by Attorney Sidney Powell in the U.S. District Court for the Northern District of Georgia. His nine-page affidavit (Exhibit 26) describes how it is possible to manipulate votes, where this occurred, and sums up his findings as follows:

    – I conclude with high confidence that the election 2020 data were altered in all battleground states resulting in hundreds of thousands of votes that were cast for President Trump to be transferred to Vice President Biden. These alterations were the result of systemic and widespread exploitable vulnerabilities in DVS, Scytl/SOE Software and Smartmatic systems that enabled operators to achieve the desired results. In my view, the evidence is overwhelming and incontrovertible.

    And no matter how the issue is approached, the same swindling is revealed at the core of Biden’s ‘vctory’

    Matt Braynard of the Voter Integrity Project (VIP) approached the 2020 results in a far less arcane fashion. His team analyzed publicly available data on absentee ballots, and he explained his findings in a way that any intelligent voter can understand. VIP looked at suspicious ballot activity in Arizona, Georgia, Michigan, Nevada, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin. Among the most significant VIP findings involved people who changed their state of residence, yet voted absentee using their prior address. In Arizona, which Biden “won” by 10,457 votes, there were 19,997 questionable votes. In Georgia, which Biden “won” by 12,670 votes, VIP found 138,221 such votes. In Wisconsin, which Biden “won” by 20,608 votes, there were 26,673 such votes. As Braynard told the Epoch Times:

    This election, it appears to me, has been decided by ballots that are highly questionable.… I can give you the list of the people who voted in this election, who filed National Change of Address cards in Georgia, moving themselves to another state.… I can also show you the subsequent state voter registrations of these individuals in other states, who then cast absentee ballots back in Georgia.… I have no confidence that Joe Biden is the deserved winner of this election.

    Threse affidavits are coming through the system and shall be seen in public along with the plaintiffs who shall testify. Phantom, Paul et al shall scoff but the entire fraud is being revealed as are the twisted beliefs of those who support the fraud

  39. Execute the mailman! Put Hugo Chavez on trial and livestream it on parler and Gateway Pundit!

    It’s a conspiracy!

    Yay, Allan, who can never be fooled!

  40. washington post said Trump colluded with russians for 4 years that wasn’t true either

    You don’t have to believe WP, you can just go to the link yourself and see the Minnesota counties listed as Michigan counties.

  41. you can’t debunk anything with a story from WaPo or the NYTs they pushed for 4 years that Trump stole the election from Hillary with russian help and couldn’t get a single person to testify they saw anything but this whole lot ate it up….

    Here we have testimony in a court one after another all describing firsthand witness accounts of fraud…. but nope ain’t true…..

    I hope you’ve taught your kids to think better… both my girls are screaming liberals my little one worked the polls for the democrats in Chattanooga they both voted for Biden and they both know that whole lotta crooked shit went down….. they’re pissed because it might mean their guy doesn’t win…. but both can see with their own eyes and are secure in themselves enough to say… this crap is crooked……

    not you guys….. Trumps Putin’s butt buddy and Joe is honest as the day is long….. lol

  42. In what court?

  43. “you can’t debunk anything with a story from WaPo or the NYTs ”

    Click on the thespectator.info link, it lists Minnesota counties as Michigan counties. No need to rely on the media. The story is bullshit.

  44. Patrick

    None of this so called testimony is being presented in court as definitive evidence The Trump lawyers keep claiming they are about to but when they have to swear legal evidence all they offer is unsubstantiated speculation and judge after judge tosses them out on their asses. It’s all a giant nothingburger.

  45. Few wow they messed up an M state…….

    I said on this thread ALL news companies lack credibility….. it is up to you the reader to read everything and find the commananilities.

    The Fraud is undeniable and intentional. The only question is will it decide the election and the verdict is still a very long way on that to go and each day it looks worse and worse for creepy Joe.

  46. Colm this is direct evidence. Eyewitness testimony in court which everyone of those links are is EVIDENCE….. those are court room scenes.

  47. Citing that this case was dismissed this case was lost etc etc mean nothing this is the process…. and everyone of the hearings today in 3 different states I don’t think have ended yet for the day so are you Swami Colm and are predicting how each of the 3 hearings today are going to be ruled?

    This only ends at the Supreme Court.

  48. Patrick

    No, they are claims and speculation which have passed no court affirmative judgement.. Not one of them has been accepted as facts that a judge has ruled as legal proof of fraud. No State or County result has been overturned by any court citing proven fraud negating the results. If those judgements come further down the line you will be proved right but so far there is little to nothing to go on.

  49. Patrick

    I can make no predictions, I have no idea what the Trump legal teams have up their sleeves, but so far I think they’ve lost their chips in about 38 out of 40 spins of the Judicial roulette wheels, so going forward they better have a lot more chips or much more favourable wheels 🙂

  50. No, they are claims and speculation which have passed no court affirmative judgement.. Not one of them has been accepted as facts that a judge has ruled as legal proof of fraud. No State or County result has been overturned by any court citing proven fraud negating the results.

    Today was the first day that any of the Presidents team witnesses were questioned in court. No matter what you have been told or read. These Today are the first witnesses….. These cases and this testimony are not finished and have yet to ruled on.

    These are testimony under oath in a court room under fine of 1000 dollars and up to ten years in jail if what they are saying is untrue…… I’m sure that Truckdriver, Mailclerk, Pollwatcher…. etc all got paid just to make it up, they want to be hiding, they want they families lives threatened……

    Eyewitness testimony in court is evidence. It is the states Lawyers who have to prove THEM wrong and discredit THEIR testimony and that has not happened.

    That’s how it works…… there is a long way to go in this.

  51. The other part Colm some of this doesn’t take place in actual court, some of it are special hearings in front of legislatures, are you also aware that all of this everything that has been filed has only been the Civil Suit side, not the Criminal Court side.

    Being a civil suit the bar for evidence is not the same as criminal either do you know the difference, has anyone on any of the newscasts any of you have watched even mentioned that this is just the Civil side?

  52. But, but, but my wife’s, sister’s, cousin’s, hair dresser’s, manicurists’s neighbour swears she saw 3 ballots being destroyed so of course the had to be turnip ballots and that completely negates the other 80 million Biden votes

  53. turnip anal toady Barr

    https://www.cnn.com/2020/12/01/politics/william-barr-election-2020/index.html?utm_medium=social&utm_term=link&utm_source=twcnnbrk&utm_content=2020-12-01T20%3A05%3A28

  54. None of the above is oath bound testimony in a court of law.

    Some guy making a claim on Twitter or blabbering at a press conferance are legally worthless and are nothing more than optics designed to rile the low information rabble.

    Until these accusations are tested under cross examination in a court of law under perjerious penalty they deserve to be treated as the worthless balls that they are.

  55. And while on the subject of baseless claims of electoral fraud:

    US Attorney General William Barr says his justice department has found no proof to back President Donald Trump’s claims of fraud in the 2020 election.

    “To date, we have not seen fraud on a scale that could have effected a different outcome in the election,” he said

    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-55153366

    I wonder does this mean that Barr will join the other multitudes in the WH revolving door who have dared to question the Great Leader and if so will he be recieving death threats and threats of sexual violence too?

    He said a 20-year-old contractor in Gwinnett County for Dominion Voting Systems, which has become the subject of baseless right-wing conspiracy theories, had received death threats. The worker’s family was also getting harassed, Mr Sterling added […]

    Mr Sterling said he himself has a police guard outside his home, while the wife of Georgia’s Secretary of State, Brad Raffensperger, was “getting sexualised threats through her cell phone”.

    “Mr President, you have not condemned these actions or this language,” added Mr Sterling. “Senators, you have not condemned these actions or this language.

    https://www.bbc.com/news/election-us-2020-55153918

  56. The mad lefty liberal WSJ:

    In other instances, attorneys representing Mr. Trump or other Republicans have said under oath they have no evidence of fraud . Lawyers also have struggled to get what they say is evidence of fraud admitted into lawsuits, with judges dismissing it as inadmissible or unreliable

    https://www.wsj.com/articles/trump-cries-election-fraud-in-court-his-lawyers-dont-11605271267

  57. These were Hearings some in court, some before State Legislature Hearings which are also courts…. these are not Press conferences or Press Presentations. They are eyewitness testimony given UNDER OATH and under penalty of perjury.

    You have no clue how things work.

  58. The first link you offer above is from an Election Press Conference by the Amistad Project of the Thomas More Society in Arlington VA.

    The second was an Oversight Committee hearing in Michigan:

    No actual evidence of any wrongdoing or fraud was presented, despite repeated questions requesting such evidence from lawmakers. Instead we saw a regurgitation of vague accusations, based on lack of knowledge of election procedure, and widely debunked conspiracy theories,” said Jake Rollow, a spokesman for Benson

    https://eu.freep.com/story/news/politics/elections/2020/12/01/detroit-vote-counting-tcf-center-trump-michigan-election-results/6474768002/

    You have no clue how things work.

    I do have a clue how things work, so much so in fact to know that the links above are a load of balls and designed to rally the low information rabble.

  59. ” Alternative facts ”

    Kellyanne Conway

  60. Ah, yes, to the very end the Mr TRUMP strives to DRAIN THE SWAMP:

    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-55156241

    Meanwhile the goons that support him are contributing their hard-earned $$ into a slush fund that’s supposed to finance his mad legal schemes but will in the end just end up in the millionaire’s pocket.

    This guy is worse than the worst TV evangelist and his followers every bit as foolish as evangelist devotees.

    Lincoln should have said: “You can fool 46.9 percent of the people all the time”.

  61. Trump very much reminds one of the most corrupt television evangalists.

    They draw from the same naive base.

    He is friendly with the high living ” prosperity gospel ” preachers Paula White and Joel Osteen, what a surprise.

    Joel Osteen is interesting to listen to. He hardly ever talks about Jesus, but talks a lot about visualizing and attaining material success. He was famous for not letting people into his church when Houston was flooded.

  62. “To date, we have not seen fraud on a scale that could have effected a different outcome in the election,”

    and now evidence of fraud on that scale is coming through. The manner of the processing of the data is described hereafter and it is a shocker. Hopefully A-G Barr is willing to look, and then he’ll see:

    https://twitter.com/kylenabecker/status/1327511568993701888

    No national standards for software security
    voting data from 28 states go to Frankfurt
    malware visible in Scytl allowing changing of votes in Germany and also at source in the US

  63. Some bloke on Twitter saying some bloke things.

    Hilarious.

  64. A@A “https://twitter.com/kylenabecker/status/1327511568993701888”
    “Election security expert @RussRamsland has performed many investigations on US election machines.”

    Russ Ramsland is the one who produced the nonsense in the stuff you linked to above in your thespectator.info link

  65. But it’s someone saying bad things about Democrats on twitter.

    Doesn’t that mean that it’s true?

  66. Pat the Army says you and the rest of the kraken nonsense shows your eyes are brown

    https://www.military.com/daily-news/2020/12/01/no-kraken-refer-military-intelligence-unit.hmtl/amp

  67. No attempt at quality control by any one at any time with any of this.

  68. The Trump fans seem to be adopting the Gish gallop strategy of debating

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gish_gallop

    “The Gish gallop is a term for an eristic technique in which a debater attempts to overwhelm an opponent by excessive number of arguments, without regard for the accuracy or strength of those arguments. The term was coined by Eugenie Scott and named after the creationist Duane Gish, who used the technique frequently against proponents of evolution. Comparable terms include scattershot or scattergun argumentation, chaff, snow job or snowing under, flooding the zone, proof by verbosity, and spread debating.”

    Also known as bullshit or bollocks depending on which side of the Atlantic you are on.

  69. If you want to see Trump regurgitate all the BS that has been on twitter, parler and various right wing websites here it is in a 46 minute speech he released today.

    https://www.facebook.com/153080620724/posts/10165908467175725/

  70. People can find any old crap on the internet but nobody excels at it as much as our Allan. We can be proud of him 😊