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NY, NY, it’s a hell of a town

By Patrick Van Roy On December 30th, 2020

It’s only just begun…..

83 Responses to “NY, NY, it’s a hell of a town”

  1. It’s only just begun…..

    What’s only just begun?

  2. We have a good police commissioner, a good police force, a god awful mayor and a really bad state legislature.

    The city remains much safer than most other US large cities – you’ll see people out and about in all neighborhoods at all hours, which you absolutely do not see in Philadelphia Cleveland or Detroit, but much of the good work done in NYC by Maple, Bratton and Giuliani is being undone.

  3. The city is in a spiral of decent. It has the best Police Force in the World. Which is totally demoralized, and being undercut and undermined at every turn.

    The Violence and Mayhem have only just begun.

  4. I feel for you Phantom, as much as I pick on NYC half my family is there and I love it’s neighborhoods.

  5. The cause of the crime wave was not the defunding of the police. Crime spiked before the reduction in policing budgets. Crime spiked because support for police in the community collapsed due to yet more high profile executions of black people by police officers.

    As for the bail issues, the original crime allegedly happened over a year ago. Are you saying people should be imprisoned without conviction for over a year?

  6. Let’s see what happens.

    But yes, the force despises Deblasio ( as does most of the public IMO )

    In NYC, I’d think that a huge percentage of the public despises the mayor, the governor, and the president.

    This is a bad moment for democracy, when such weak characters have such leading positions.

  7. sadly true

  8. The Violence and Mayhem have only just begun

    According to the article the subject of the writing has been happening for the last year. Hardly just begun?

  9. no it’s not just begun, it’s just getting worse by the day and if it keeps going the way it’s going it’ll match this eventually.

    The Chicago Tribune reported that 4,005 shooting victims occurred in 2020 through December 16, and of those people 744 people were killed.

    Seamus the facts as usual prove you wrong. Black people in the US are killed by the police 3x times LESS than white people, but you keep reading those terrorist child murdering supporting sites and publications that you are devoted to.

  10. ” Black people in the US are killed by the police 3x times LESS than white people, but you keep reading those terrorist child murdering supporting sites and publications that you are devoted to.”

    As opposed to your white supremacist and anti-semitic sites?

    This is yet another example of you being dishonest by looking at raw numbers rather than per capita numbers.

  11. No you’re just wrong, and lack the mental acuity to know it or the integrity to admit it, but what can you expect from someone that supports terrorists that target civilians.

  12. Seamus so far today you and Seimi have called me a Liar and Racist.

    I’ll gladly go down this road with both of you…….

  13. Except I don’t support them. Yet another lie from Troll.

  14. You are a liar. And if you aren’t a racist certainly many of the sites and blogs you get your views from are racist.

  15. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=98CkftCaXos&ab_channel=Segergirlrox

  16. You support the IRA, you drink with them, eat with them, support their cause… you are a terrorist sympathizer.

    Period

  17. I don’t support the IRA. That is a lie, like most of the stuff you post.

    And you support murdering the children of Sinn Féin supporters.

  18. You, Paul, Seimi you were raised in it, just as I was raised with Cops.

    You can’t help it, it’s how you were formed. I accept that, I look past it on most occasions because all of you on a personal level seem to me anyway to be decent men just with a different perspective than me because of your upbringing.

    But you Seamus and Seimi are stupid in spite of at least your inteligence. You insist on fucking with me.

    Why?

    Disagree with what I say. but you two faggots want to always make it personal. I’m a Liar, I’m a Racist, and the 50 other things you’ve impugned my character with.

    As I said to Paul I’ve cut my commenting down to almost nothing rather than fight with you two idiots.

    If you choose to make it personal, so will I.

  19. Seamus, on December 30th, 2020 at 6:07 PM Said: Edit Comment
    I don’t support the IRA. That is a lie, like most of the stuff you post.

    And you support murdering the children of Sinn Féin supporters.

    Both those statements are a Lie….. and you’re to stupid to even know it…. roflmao

    but keep going…… I’ll give you a pass because you’re the product of inbreeding.

  20. You choose to make it personal. I was willing the keep the peace. You have lied repeatedly over the last few weeks and I haven’t called you a liar because I wanted to keep the peace. You are a liar, you quote white supremacists and anti-semites, you get your views from racists. That is who you are. You are nothing more than a lying mouthpiece for the Klan. And if people calling you out on that causes you problems, loses you business, then good because that is what should happen. People should know who they are getting into business with when they do business with you. They are getting into business with a lying racist (and given the post above – homophobe).

    But I didn’t call you out on that because I was willing the keep the peace and debate the issues. But apparently I’m not worth debating with. I’m not important enough to debate with. You pretty much said you wouldn’t debate with me.

    So fine. If you don’t want to debate then that is fine. But I’m not going to spare your feelings any more you inbred cunt. You lie – I call you a liar. You quote racists – I call you out on it. Don’t like it – go fuck yourself.

  21. Great intelligent debate on this thread 😢

  22. “Great intelligent debate on this thread 😢”

    Sadly an all too familiar theme. Troll throws punch after punch after punch at people and then cries like a little bitch if someone throws one back.

  23. FU Seamus I didn’t attack any of you, you and Seimi attacked me. You haven’t done shit to keep the peace.

    Another Lie…. from you terror supporter.

  24. “FU Seamus I didn’t attack any of you, you and Seimi attacked me. You haven’t done shit to keep the peace.”

    So you are saying you didn’t say I wasn’t important enough to debate?

  25. yes very familiar Seimi shows up calls me a liar and then you call me a racist and a Liar

  26. “yes very familiar Seimi shows up calls me a liar and then you call me a racist and a Liar”

    Well you are a racist (or certainly the people you get your views from are) and you are a liar. So those are just facts.

  27. I’ve never said YOU weren’t important enough to debate?

    Past the link so I can laugh at you…… I said Dave isn’t worth the type, not you… you when you’re sane are quite enjoyable to debate.

  28. And stop qualifying your insults, grow a set of balls….

    YOU think I’m racist, you think I’m a Liar….. stop being a wuss

  29. “I’ve never said YOU weren’t important enough to debate?”

    Yes you did.

    https://www.atangledweb.org/?p=87166

    “YOU think I’m racist, you think I’m a Liar….. stop being a wuss”

    I don’t think you are a liar. I know you are a liar. You are a liar. You repeatedly lie. I don’t know if you are a racist. But many of the people you get your views from a racists.

  30. And if you are now pretending it was Dave, instead of me, does that make it better? Does that make you any less of a piece of shit?

  31. I’m not pretending anything, if your father hadn’t married his sister maybe you’d understand that… lets look at the results of inbreeding shall we…

    The relevant section that mr inbred couldn’t interpret.

    Dave Alton, on December 23rd, 2020 at 11:17 PM Said: Edit Comment
    FewsOrange,

    2) For mentioning that there was no evidence of voting machines flipping votes.

    Absolutely correct. Despite looking at multiple sources, I can find zero convincing evidence the voting machines systemically changed votes, added votes, or did anything dubious at all. (Other than reliability and operational issues.)

    Patrick Van Roy, on December 23rd, 2020 at 11:41 PM Said: Edit Comment
    lol….. and you are important to convince why ?

    Seamus, on December 23rd, 2020 at 11:46 PM Said: Edit Comment
    “lol….. and you are important to convince why ?”

    If you had an answer you’d give it. And when you don’t have an answer (or when the far-right propoganda sites can’t give you an answer) you play games like this.

    Dave Alton, on December 24th, 2020 at 12:05 AM Said: Edit Comment
    Seamus.

    Absolutely correct mate. I had to go looking for evidence elsewhere, because despite the accusation being made by certain people on here multiple times, no convincing evidence of voter machine fraud was actually posted here. Just insults and condescension when evidence is asked for.

    Patrick Van Roy, on December 24th, 2020 at 12:33 AM Said: Edit Comment
    bullshit he’s not worth the type to explain anything to, I only respond to him at all out of curtesy…… something he’ll never understand.

    Dave made the comment in all fairness to those of limited mental acuity not to me, but I responded TO DAVE lol….. and you are important to convince why ?

    The conversation is very clear I nwas responding to him and even recertified that I was refering to him…. but the inbred thinking of a terrorist supporter still a week later can’t grasp that.

    Gentleman don’t marry your sisters that will be the result…. inbred terrorist supporters.

  32. Except Dave didn’t ask you for any information, while I did. As you point out Dave didn’t even address the comment to you, while I did. You then responded, to the request for information, “lol….. and you are important to convince why ?”.

    Now you are trying to lie your way out of trouble.

  33. I’m not lying about anything. You were and are just to stupid to realize I wasn’t talking to you and even after clarifying it for you still can’t grasp it…..

    That’ll happen with a limited gene pool like yours.

  34. No, just like normal you did something. And when it became inconvenient for you, you lie and say you didn’t do it.

  35. this is the level that troll likes colm
    he’s happy now , he’s degraded the site
    its began on the other thread when he was asked to back up his election story bullshit
    DV will have to login again and tell troll to stop being a child ( AGAIN )
    pitiful this .. absolutely pitiful
    no wonder Mahons left and Charles and other good bloggers
    its just a shit hole this site , because of a lying sac of sh1t who runs it
    FUCK THIS ..

  36. oh bullshit… just like normal the real inbred seimi comes on and attacks me, if I respond within the hour you go off…. ahhh seimi ain’t bright enough to handle his own fight Seamus must jump in and spew his bile two to one…. ahhh a couple wimps.

    We disagree on our politics and our views of the world, but neither of you have the ability to argue the issue without attacking the individual.

    It is a flaw in your character. Seamus I admire that you stick up for your friend, but you are still stupid on your own. You have the ability to argue with me on an intelligent level you just lack the integrity.

  37. This has nothing to do with Seimi. I would have raised these issues today whether or not you had attacked Seimi for simply pointing out the truth. I’ve been away from the computer the last week and so wasn’t able to address your petty attack on me until now.

    You don’t have an intelligent level. Only a dishonest one. You don’t have your own views, just those provided to you by racists and anti-semites.

  38. lol….. and you are important to convince why ?

    I thought this comment was directed at Seamus, and not to myself as well.
    But to be fair, you could also interpret it the other way around.

    I noticed yet again, that’s some pretty nasty insults and personal attacks have started from the usual source. So much for polite and courteous debate.

  39. oh bullshit again seamus…… own your shit.

    The only time you get personally insulting is when your boy is involved. Yes you bring up issues but you don’t call me a liar and a racist.

    If you haven’t taken note of that maybe you should.

  40. Here’s polite….. Dave go to hell….. you didn’t think it was directed at you because thinking is just not your forte…..

    how’s that…..

  41. “Yes you bring up issues but you don’t call me a liar and a racist.”

    You are a liar. And I didn’t call you a racist. I said you got your views from racists. Which is a fact.

    “If you haven’t taken note of that maybe you should.”

    Maybe you should take note that if you continue to act like a cunt then people are going to treat you like one.

  42. See where Seamus is righteous in defending his friend Dave is just the egger on that little kid that is nothing on his own but is the loudest in cheering others on…..

  43. “I noticed yet again, that’s some pretty nasty insults and personal attacks have started from the usual source. So much for polite and courteous debate.”

    Indeed. Troll regularly throws the first punch (and often the second, third or fourth punches) but then cries like a little girl if someone throws one back. He’s just a typical bully.

  44. so you’re a pussy, you still can’t own you’re calling me a racist…. oh that’s innuendo…. no that’s a lack of spine.

    and you are a terrorist supporting scumbag.

    I’m a Liar and your a Scumbag.

    Now you have a choice.

    You can drop the racist and liar attack and I’ll drop the terrorist supporting scumbag attack or we can continue…..

  45. “You can drop the racist and liar attack and I’ll drop the terrorist supporting scumbag attack or we can continue…..”

    See I don’t support terrorists. And you are a liar. And you do get your views from racists. So unlike your lies what I am saying are simply facts. That may be problematic for you but then shit one for you.

    But fine. If you are civil to everyone, not just me, but everyone – including Dave and Seimi – then I will be civil to you. Deal?

  46. Calling you a pussy, faggot, terrorist supporting scumbag is no different than you calling me a liar and a racist so kiss your little butt buddy and decide….

    you want to be civilized or not?

  47. “Calling you a pussy, faggot, terrorist supporting scumbag is no different than you calling me a liar and a racist so kiss your little butt buddy and decide….”

    You are a liar. And you get your views from racists. Those are facts. What you are saying are lies.

  48. ok then your a scumbag and that’s how you will be referred too.

    It’s no sweat off my ass I can and will outlast, outwit, and out insult everyone one of you.

    I’d rather talk politics, but you made the choice.

  49. “I’d rather talk politics, but you made the choice.”

    You really wouldn’t rather. I offered a deal up there. You have clearly rejected it. Shows exactly the sort of man you are.

  50. Patrick

    Here’s polite….. Dave go to hell….. you didn’t think it was directed at you because thinking is just not your forte…..

    I thought the comment was directed Seamus because you were having a conversation with him at the time, not with me. But thankfully, I’m not like you. I’m not a dishonest turd and I freely admitted that you could have directed that comment at either of us.

    Once again Patrick you show what an absolute sack of shit you really are.
    Yet again the man who accuses others of being offensive and not being polite, is the first start calling people nasty names. You are literally running a site where everybody else thinks you’re a completely dishonest dick head with the IQ of a jellyfish.

    Dave is just the egger on that little kid that is nothing on his own but is the loudest in cheering others on…..

    Oh Patrick, I’ve destroyed you many, many times by myself on this site.
    How you getting on explaining why Venus hotter than Mercury, or finding that evidence that John McCain caused the USS forrestal fire. You’re a sad little clown that nobody listens to, and nobody respects.

  51. no scumbag you made the choice….. you went down the path with your butt buddy and you lack the spine or the cognizance to know it and admit it.

  52. Dave your name from now on is TicTurd to match your significance.

  53. “no scumbag you made the choice….. you went down the path with your butt buddy and you lack the spine or the cognizance to know it and admit it.”

    I offered a deal to return to civilised discussion. You have rejected it. That is on you. That deal is still valid if you want to accept it.

  54. ok repeat the deal…… right here, right now, in a nice short comment.

  55. If you are civil to everyone, not just me, but everyone – including Dave and Seimi – then I will be civil to you. Deal?

  56. Dave your name from now on is TicTurd to match your significance.

    Sticks and stones Patrick, sticks and stones.
    Facts are what matter. And here’s a fact for you, people respect me on this site. I’m not perfect, I’ve got faults, but I generally try to treat people with the same respect they show me. You however are a dishonest tosser and a complete prick towards other people. And nobody here respects you. I know who shoes I’d rather be in, and I’m wearing them right now.

  57. NO

    Look you want to be their hero go right ahead. I will hold each and everyone of you to what you say as individuals.

    If you want I can hold YOU responsible for them….. deal?

  58. “If you are civil to everyone, not just me, but everyone – including Dave and Seimi – then I will be civil to you. Deal?”

    Oh God, how I wish that would happen, but I know it won’t. What we have seen on this thread today is tedious but it won’t stop, and no it’s not ‘his fault’ its the fault of all who engage in it.

  59. “I will hold each and everyone of you to what you say as individuals.”

    If you cannot be civil then you will not be treated with civility. This isn’t complicated.

  60. every damn one of us Colm…..

    you’ve got that right.

  61. “Oh God, how I wish that would happen, but I know it won’t. What we have seen on this thread today is tedious but it won’t stop, and no it’s not ‘his fault’ its the fault of all who engage in it.”

    It isn’t the fault of anyone but Troll. I offered a deal to end it and he said no. That says everything you need to know about him.

    Troll acts like this with anyone who disagrees with him and pisses him off. He always throws the first punch. He always throws out insults. And the “insults” being thrown back at him are almost universally true and not actually insults. So effectively Troll wants to be able to insult and attack and abuse anyone he wants at will and will go apeshit and destroy the site (and likely ban people) if anyone responds. Well fuck him. Eventually people need to stop appeasing bullies. Because appeasing him hasn’t improved his behaviour – it has made it worse.

  62. alright then Scumbag it is.

    And you will now be responsible for both Seimi and Daves behavior.

    Since that’s how you want it.

  63. “Since that’s how you want it.”

    It isn’t how I want it. I want you treat everyone with civility and respect. So that was another lie from you. At least this one wasn’t anti-semitic so baby steps I guess.

  64. Seamus listen and take it to heart.

    Everyone on this site gets treated the same by me, they have for 20yrs. I am not going to change.

    Now you pick the hill you want to die on. My rules are very simple. Don’t call me a Liar and don’t call me a Racist.

    Anything and everything else is fairgame. Those rules apply to everyone, they always have.

  65. “I am not going to change.”

    And that’s the problem. You expect everyone to treat you with kid gloves while you act the cunt with whoever you want to.

    However – if you can be civil to everyone I will be civil to you – and that will include not using your trigger words (however accurate they are). Deal?

    “Those rules apply to everyone, they always have.”

    You make the rules up as you go along and you break them when you want to. Your rules are arbitrary and nonsense. If you don’t accept the deal then if you lie I will call you a liar. And if you quote sources that are racist I will call you out on that. And if you don’t like that then you have two choices a) accept the deal or b) go fuck yourself.

  66. My rules are very simple. Don’t call me a Liar and don’t call me a Racist.

    Or any other rules he pulls out of his ass in the near future. Rules which he constantly breaks himself by the way.

  67. You make the rules up as you go along and you break them when you want to. Your rules are arbitrary and nonsense. If you don’t accept the deal then if you lie I will call you a liar. And if you quote sources that are racist I will call you out on that. And if you don’t like that then you have two choices a) accept the deal or b) go fuck yourself.

    It’s good to be King……

    All sarcasm aside now.

    Those rules have been in place for decades, and they have always been the only rules since David left and his only rule ever was not to harass him, ask Kurt to tell you the tale of Percy & Jo.

    if you can be civil to everyone I will be civil to you – and that will include not using your trigger words (however accurate they are). Deal?

    Deal.

    I know I can live up to it, and so can you, but I’ll lay 20-1 that the other 2 can’t.

  68. Seamus so far today you and Seimi have called me a Liar and Racist.

    I’ll gladly go down this road with both of you…….

    I didn’t call you a racist. In fact, I have defended you on every occasion where I saw someone else call you it. So that’s a lie. I called you a liar because you have lied over and over and over for the past while. I know it, you know it – everyone on ATW knows it.

    oh bullshit… just like normal the real inbred seimi comes on and attacks me, if I respond within the hour you go off…. ahhh seimi ain’t bright enough to handle his own fight Seamus must jump in and spew his bile two to one…. ahhh a couple wimps.

    Throwing out insults like ‘inbred’ just show you up. You have been called out and caught out and you can’t take it. And believe me – I can handle an argument against you, Troll. The most difficult part is dumbing down to your level.

    My rules are very simple. Don’t call me a Liar and don’t call me a Racist.

    What about when you lie? Can we call you a liar then?

  69. I know I can live up to it, and so can you, but I’ll lay 20-1 that the other 2 can’t.

    Firstly, I really doubt if you can live up to it, as that requires integrity.
    Secondly, you can’t throw out insults and lies about someone and then complain when that person responds.

  70. Firstly, I really doubt if you can live up to it, as that requires integrity.

    Right there your first comment after reading my response to “your deal” you call me a Liar.

    When you say someone has no integrity you are calling them a Liar.

    Now are you not bright enough to understand that, or are you just saying fuck you?

    In my view you’re saying Fuck You.

    It is disappointing that even after all that you just can’t help yourself. How sadly pathetic.

  71. I think we can all see how the thread is going. It would be a good idea for everyone to chill.

  72. says the man when it’s over……

  73. No, I’m suggesting that you have no integrity. I have already called you a liar. Because you lied, repeatedly. You now appear to be lying about lying, therefore you display a lack of integrity, so I am suggesting you have no integrity.

    This isn’t rocket science.

    It is disappointing that even after all that you just can’t help yourself.

    No, what is disappointing is that you now appear to be trying to cover up what occurred a few months ago, when you banned me for nothing, lied about your reasons for doing so, lied again when you changed your story, lied again when you changed your story again, and then continued to lie about your reasons.

    You cannot now carry on as if none of that happened. Every single person here saw and read all of what happened, and several copies of the threads in question have been saved in different places, because you have deleted entire posts before, in the hope that their content will be forgotten about.

    Now, I have returned to the site to – as you say – discuss politics. But, if you want to go down this road, I will be happy to do so, but we will leave no stone unturned.

    Or – you could just ban me again, but this would only further expose you.

  74. I know I can live up to it, and so can you, but I’ll lay 20-1 that the other 2 can’t.

    Says the dishonest clown who’s always the first to cast nasty insults.

  75. Face it Seamus you are incapable of refraining from personal attacks.

    You’re a sad example of a man. You two can continue, but I’m done.

    You couldn’t live upto your own deal so Scumbag, Scumbag it shall be, Scumbag and TicTurd with their maddog Seimi…. the butt brothers and the their butt sniffin hound.

  76. What the fuck is your problem? What personal attack? I offered a deal, you accepted the deal. That should have been the end of it. And yet here you go with this bullshit again.

    Sad, pathetic cunt of a man.

  77. Seamus

    He’s mistaken me for you again. Watch out – you might get banned for his making that mistake.

  78. Okay, here’s my question.

    Do you acknowledge and admit that you lied when you banned me, and that you lied repeatedly afterwards, in order to try and cover up or diminish what you did?

    Yes or no?

  79. NO

  80. NO

    Really??

    Okay, seeing as how this is apparently the ‘fight thread’, let’s see your evidence for that ‘NO.’

    I have a couple of threads-worth of evidence. What have you got?

    And I know you enjoy the personal insults, but please – let’s try and be mature here. Try to confine your comments to the subject of your lies – or not. There’s no need to descend into personal insult.

    Also: if I say something about you, I should be able to provide evidence to back up that claim, in the shape of a time and date-stamped block-quote or something. Likewise, if you have something to say about me, you should also be able to provide exactly the same, yes?

    Also – let’s not allow this to spill on to other posts. You have called this post the ‘fight thread.’ If that’s the case, then a new post should be created to deal with the original subject matter.

    OR! And this would be my preferred option – you create a new, completely separate post, just to deal with my unfair, unnecessary and un-justified banning. But I know you won’t go for this one. You don’t have the balls.

  81. No Seimi I’m not playing I’m done.

    You, Seamus, and Dave simply can’t stop the personal attacks. I’m done with the 3 of you.

  82. Again, what the fuck is your problem? What personal attack? We had a deal and you broke it within two hours. And you like to pretend you have integrity?

  83. No Seimi I’m not playing I’m done.

    You, Seamus, and Dave simply can’t stop the personal attacks. I’m done with the 3 of you.

    I knew this would be your response. You know you are completely, 100% in the wrong. You know you have absolutely no argument, and no way of fixing this, because you lack the maturity and integrity to admit your mistakes and correct them.
    So you will now resort to your usual tactic of pretending it didn’t happen in the first place.

    That’s okay – I’ll be happy to remind you, any time you try to get away with the ‘I have never lied’ line.