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How quickly you forget. but we haven’t

By Patrick Van Roy On January 8th, 2021

A single Trump Rally broke into a riot at the end 5 people died. No matter how you speak on this, what side you are on it was an outrage. Everyone of the people involved should be prosecuted to the full extent of the Law.

What I have witnessed here on this site, in the MSM, and everywhere you look CNN, MSNBC, FNC, you name it, all of a sudden this sort of behavior is not acceptable.

Why Not ? For 6 months we were told that this sort of behavior was fine and acceptable, Kamala Harris said “the Protests” were going to continue until the election and after get used to it. Nancy Pelosi when asked about mobs throwing statues in the Bay response was “it’s what people do” I could cite over a dozen Democrats that came out in support of BLM/Antifa looting and burning, to the seizing of a 4 block section of a city and claiming independence.

Democrat Politicians and the MSM as well as some of you cheered this behavior, but now Oh my……

Donald Trump held over 200 Rallies during his campaign and Presidency…. this one is the only one that erupted into violence….AND EVERYONE ON THE RIGHT HAS CONDEMNED IT unlike what we have had to stomach for the past ten months.

This clip is just the Violence in DC from Joe Biden Supporters made 3 months ago….. this is Just DC and the riots continue long after this film was made.

You that have finally found a voice against this type of behavior I would cheer you coming to your senses, except you haven’t. The TarPit of hypocrisy and bullshit is so deep you can’t swim threw it, it will suck us all down to our deaths, a tar pit as black as the soul of the hypocrites that it’s spewing from.

You may have a new found sense of rage over violence in politics, but this is the bull you’ve had us swallow and told to accept.

94 Responses to “How quickly you forget. but we haven’t”

  1. Patrick, the left promoted, defended and normalised political violence all through 2020. We have forever to remind them of what they did, which is to legitimise “violence as the voice of the unheard to enact change”. Their surprise will be that the right will talk about this long after they want to.

  2. Predictable.

  3. I have criticized all political violence here for years, and have the battle scars to prove it.

    Right, left, or any other cause, no one has any right to raise a hand at anyone who is not a physical threat.

    Speak softly, and carry a big stick. Good philosophy for ordinary people, and politicians.

  4. You were inciting violence with your post today, you have nothing to say worth hearing Phantom.

  5. Meow.

  6. Damn straight Colm, Predictable, Dependable, and Consistent….. take it to the bank.

  7. I could say something really funny to follow up your “Meow”, but the pedestrians would be aghast…..

    Phantom your post this morning was irresponsible and irreparable.

  8. oh and Pete why wait….. F’m let the games begin.

  9. Patrick

    Are you talking about Phantom’s post on the killing of the cop ? What on Earth was irresponsible about it ?

  10. All throughout the trouble which started after the police killed George Floyd, you went on and on and on about how the Right didn’t get violent, it wouldn’t be the Right who rioted and looted.
    You were correct in a way. They didn’t just riot and loot. Your Right went straight to the top and invaded the Capitol Building in a treasonous act, and they killed 5 people in doing so.
    These are your people, these are your actions. Your pathetic attempts now to say these actions were wrong are noted. Just like the cowardly piece of shit you voted into office and blindly supported in every scummy thing he did, your faux anger at what happened is just that: false. You don’t care that these people died. You certainly don’t care about the cop. I guess Blue Lives only Matter until an Orange prick Trumps them.

    You’re an absolute disgrace.

  11. Your Right went straight to the top and invaded the Capitol Building in a treasonous act, and they killed 5 people in doing so.

    One person, apparently, Officer Sicknick. An unarmed protestor, Ashli Babbitt, was gunned down by the police.

    Say her name.

    The Capitol Building has been invaded many times by leftist mobs. In recent years alone it has been invaded by anti-Kavanaugh mobs. Many Capitols were invaded across the nation, in 2020 alone, by BLM and ANtifa mobs. On every occasion the media and the Democrats approved and applauded.

    Spare us your faux outrage.

  12. Not like this buster

  13. Five people, actually. Their deaths – all of them – were caused by this treasonous, seditious mob attacking the Capitol Building.

    Rightwing mob attacks Capitol Building and causes deaths of 5 people. Pete Moore says, “But whatabout…”

    Spare us your faux outrage.

    Outrage would suggest some element of surprise. I wasn’t surprised in the slightest that Trump incited people to violence which caused deaths. Were you?

  14. More hilarity from hypocrite Moore, defending a deranged cultist terrorist who climbed through a barricaded door despite being repeatedly warned by suited secret servicemen not to do so.

    She fucked around and found out, isn’t that usually the attitude you’d take?

    She was a terrorist, and a stupid one at that. You give away the fact that at the first opportunity, you’d don a red hat and cult-up yourself if a grifter like Farage decided to go the god emperor route.

    That no-nonsense Brit act of yours is a LARP, the same kinda LARP that the lunatic with a Trump cape was into until cold, hard reality hit her in the neck.

    You’d chug kool-aid like warm ale. “Say her name”! Gimme a break. You realise when that was coined in the movie Fight Club it was satirical, right?

  15. It might be apocryphal but the word is one of the heart attacks was induced by the guy tasering himself in the testicles

    If that doesn’t just say it all about turnip supporters

  16. An unarmed protestor, Ashli Babbitt,

    You spelled seditious, treasonous terrorist wrong, Pete.

    Just on that subject – do you agree with Trump, that the people who attacked the Capitol Building, causing the deaths of 5 people, were heroes? Do you, like him, love them?

    Or do you side with Troll, who, whilst creaming himself over anything and everything Trump says and does, also believes that the person who was shot deserved it, the 3 people who had heart attacks didn’t deserve it, and the police officer who was murdered – well, we don’t know what Troll thinks about that one yet, because Trump hasn’t told us what Troll thinks yet – but, based on his comments so far – shit happens, people die.

    was gunned down by the police.

    Were they police, or were they doughnut munchers? Was officer Sicknick a doughnut muncher, up until he died, at which point he became a police officer?

    I just can’t keep up with your love/hate relationship with the police, Pete.

  17. mentally givimg these guys 2 weeks to express all their butt-hurt at being trounced in the election on every front. things will settle down after the inauguration .
    2 trifecta were achieved

    10 Biden won the whitehouse, the senate and the house – lets not talk about the astounding success of that though
    Trump is only POTUS who failed to win a 2nd term, failed to win the pop vote and has been impeached

    lives in the capital were at risk, senators, congressman , police , journos, the sacred ground of democracy attacked and shamed by these lunatics
    This is nothing like the eruption of anger at the murder of george floyd – its butthurt built on lies that the election was stolen – all totally unecessary and false had trump been a man and conceded.
    Now he lost his twitter account, his legacy, the whole kit and kaboodle
    suck it up , he’s gone , he’s down, he’s slammmed and good riddance ..
    want some cheese with your whine

  18. It might be apocryphal but the word is one of the heart attacks was induced by the guy tasering himself in the testicles

    At least now we know for sure it wasn’t Troll…

  19. Some of us said that nothing good was going to happen in Washington DC on Wednesday

    Here

    The Day Before

    Wednesday was one of the bad days in American history, and it didn’t surprise any thinking person

    David Brooks in the times thinks that There will now be a step back from the madness of the past four years

    Let’s hope so.

  20. Twitter permanently suspends Trump’s account — its over troll/petem , lick your wounds and come back and talk sense

  21. One person, apparently, Officer Sicknick. An unarmed protestor, Ashli Babbitt, was gunned down by the police. Say her name.

    Helga Wessel, sister of Horst Wessel? Here’s a song for her:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4DvZCASZV3Y

  22. Apple says it will kick Parler off the App Store in 24 hours unless content is moderated
    Chance Miller

    No place to go, nowhere to run to , time to face JUSTICE
    we’re all sick to death of the violent plotters of anarchy and insurrection
    you lost fair and square, get over it ..

  23. Apple says it will kick Parler off the App Store in 24 hours unless content is moderated
    Chance Miller

    No place to go, nowhere to run to , time to face JUSTICE
    we’re all sick to death of the violent plotters of anarchy and insurrection
    you lost fair and square, get over it ..

    would you believe it our very own DV is caught on parler joining in with Lin Wood
    what a chance catch ..

  24. I wonder if Trump will try and launch a new Twitter handle. Perhaps with the subtle title @REALLANDSLIDEWINNERSECONDTERMPOTUS. 😉

  25. Parler would be the subject of great FBI and other law enforcement interest right now

  26. DV on parler enjoying the language of violence – and salivating at it – quelle suprise

  27. Watch out for the advance pardon guys. The only question is how many will he include?

    A wild guess says he will restrict it to himself. And the usual suspects will swear that it’s allowed under the constitution. You know, the constitution which does not permit the US to have an air force because it doesn’t mention it as part of the permitted defence forces. But it was cool with slavery so the Confederate flag lovers and the Proud Boys and the rest of the rightwing militias just love it.

  28. Wednesday was one of the bad days in American history, and it didn’t surprise any thinking person

    Lol….. yes one of it’s worst…. omg the audacity… what does it compare too JFK assassination, 9/11, or how about the Watts Riot, the bridge at Selma… put it on the scale for me…..

    But first skippy rate it against the violence and destruction of Biden supporters over just the first 90 DAYS of the riots. Rate it against the lives lost and the Billions of dollars of damages the execution of a Federal officer that Biden supporter drove upto and gunned down in broad daylight…. put it in scale…

    But you can’t the lot of you…. “I must rage” wah wah wah…. you have no sense of perspective. You have no understanding of People but more than anything you lack any moral ground to stand on.

    Oh the puffery…… people died it was horrible and is an outrage that it happened. I’ve been saying this for months. Oh you’ve complained to, yes like a person complains when he is delivered cold coffee at a street stand, that was the level of your complaining.

    As a writer you bear a level of responsibility a headline like Trump Supporters killed a Cop although true is inciteful and not in the intelligent way in a way to incite anger.

    Do you really want to fuel this fire? Do you want to egg those in power and on the left more to go on their persecutions blitz….. because it’s coming

    What do you think the result of Political Persecutions is going to be? Do you think it’s going to lead to peace and harmony?

    For the last ten months the left has blamed the right as they have seized sections of cities, looted, burned and attacked cops daily. Billions of dollars of damage and a bunch of lives Cops and civilians….. but one out of 100s of protests on the right goes bad and ….. well that’s it. Shut down their free speech, take away their rights, persecute and prosecute the Trump and anyone that’s said anything nice about them…

    People like you are feeding an escalation. It is time to deescalate not escalate.

  29. The summer protests were largely peaceful
    This purge of Twitter is to do with incitement to violence, something troll has not addressed

  30. Patrick

    You really cannot condemn Phantom for that post, given that on more than one occasion last year you put up very emotive and angry posts (quite rightly too) following the murders of police officers during BLM riots. You weren’t concerned with ‘dialling down the rhetoric’ then, you are just uncomfortable with the perfectly true fact that this time a cop was murdered by Trump supporters and suddenly you call for a fellow contributor here not to highlight the incident. You may not like it but Phantom was perfectly justified putting that post up.

    However I will agree with you there are genuine points to be made about what was an undeniable reticence amongst many Dem politicians ,others on the left and some commenters here to condemn the street violent rampages of last year with the same vehemence that have done towards this week’s events, Political hypocrisy is rampant on both sides and its part of human nature to react differently depending on which ‘side’ yours or theirs is behaving badly.

  31. AN OVERWHELMINGLY PEACEFUL MOVEMENT
    The vast majority of demonstration events associated with the BLM movement are non-violent (see map below). In more than 93% of all demonstrations connected to the movement, demonstrators have not engaged in violence or destructive activity. Peaceful protests are reported in over 2,400 distinct locations around the country. Violent demonstrations,4 meanwhile, have been limited to fewer than 220 locations — under 10% of the areas that experienced peaceful protests. In many urban areas like Portland, Oregon, for example, which has seen sustained unrest since Floyd’s killing, violent demonstrations are largely confined to specific blocks, rather than dispersed throughout the city

    https://acleddata.com/2020/09/03/demonstrations-political-violence-in-america-new-data-for-summer-2020/

  32. Lol….. yes one of it’s worst…. omg the audacity… what does it compare too JFK assassination, 9/11, or how about the Watts Riot, the bridge at Selma… put it on the scale for me…..

    I would say that, in terms of the legacy of the United States and all the principles upon which they were founded – it’s definitely up there with those other events. This was a sitting president, attempting to overturn a democratic vote, and inciting US citizens to attack their seat of power because he didn’t get what he wanted.

    The fact that either:

    A) You don’t get that

    or

    B) You do get it but you just don’t care

    says so much about you.

    But first skippy rate it against the violence and destruction of Biden supporters over just the first 90 DAYS of the riots. Rate it against the lives lost and the Billions of dollars of damages the execution of a Federal officer that Biden supporter drove upto and gunned down in broad daylight…. put it in scale…

    It’s an apples and oranges comparison. You’re just engaging in whataboutery in a poor attempt to cover your own support for a traitor to the Constitution you like to pretend you support.

    but one out of 100s of protests on the right goes bad and …..

    Not just any protest – a protest, riot and subsequent 5 deaths, one of which is murder – incited by your president! Why does this not bother you??

    well that’s it. Shut down their free speech, take away their rights, persecute and prosecute the Trump and anyone that’s said anything nice about them…

    This is just more made up shit. Nobody has talked about shutting down free speech, or any of the other crap you’re talking about here.

    The bit about ‘…anyone that’s said anything nice about them…’ is weird though. Do you mean, ‘anyone who wasn’t horrified by the mob who, at their president’s encouragement, murdered a police officer and wrecked the Capitol Building?

  33. Very well said Patrick.
    I agree 100%.

  34. I disagree with the decision by Twitter to permanently ban Trumps personal account.

  35. good article here on false comparisons

    The Danger Of False Equivalences

    https://www.bustle.com/politics/capitol-hill-riot-false-equivalencies

    colm i disagree with your disagreement to quote AliG


    This is the most important moment in the history of social media.

    The world’s largest platforms have banned the world’s biggest purveyor of lies, conspiracies and hate.

    To every Facebook and Twitter employee, user and advocate who fought for this–the entire world thanks you!

  36. // one of the heart attacks was induced by the guy tasering himself in the testicles

    At least now we know for sure it wasn’t Troll…//

    🙂

    And overall great stuff, Seimi. But they are part of a large lie machine that has long since flown off from reality and are now well beyond the reach of your words.

    Pete must be in a real quandary not wishing to condemn the actions of these patriots while also aware that guru Trump has condemned them.
    But probably like the rest of us he knows the guru was lying again in that announcement.

    BTW, did David Vance, once a proud Briton, really say: “Twitter needs stormed. Blatantly removing the tweets of the President”
    ?

  37. JM

    Good boy!! You deserve a treat,

    Patrick is morally confused and conflicted.

    He is blindly loyal to the Homer Simpson bumbling Mussolini who sicced a blend of the evil and the simpleton to attempt a direct physical coup at the actual home of US national democracy at the very time that the will of the voters in a free and fair election was being formally recorded.

    He can’t deal with the Trump rioters being referred to as Trump rioters. Rioters who were inflamed by him, sent to the Capitol by him, and who followed his wish, carrying flags with his name on them.

    The assault had been planned on parler and other sites for weeks by many of those who participated in it, in Trumps name. Anyone here who belongs to parler and who participates in Trump discussions may have seen these calls for
    Violence, for treason, calls to physically harm Democrat politicians. That stuff was common on the unmoderated parler, whose very reason for being was to create a same space for extremists.

    The plotting isn’t over. There has been a lot of talk on parler and elsewhere of the Trump Traitors coming back to DC and elsewhere with open carry firearms on or around Inauguration Day. These will presumably include the same Camp Auschwitz neo Nazis , drug dealer bike gang members, and people in animal suits who came this past Wednesday.

    Good luck to law enforcement in dealing with these anti American mobs. At least everyone now sees exactly who they are, exactly what this movement is.

  38. Colm

    I don’t necessarily agree with twitters decision but I don’t know what good choice they had.

    Trump incited a riot this past Wednesday, after planning it for a long time ( “ wild time “ coming statement ) He expressed his love for rioters before he got lawyered up and backtracked

    And there is talk about armed demos and riots a bit more than a week from now

    They should do nothing?

    They should allow the organizers of riots and insurrection to run free on their site?

  39. The Chyyynese administration must be having a huge laugh over the West’s hand-wringing. When Hong Kong citizens stormed and occupied their own Parliament there was much delight and encouragement from Capitol Hill & the commentariat.

    Of course it is cathartic to have an attack of the vapours over a man in a furry-horned headdress with a tattooed torso running around the US legislature, especially in the hysterical times we currently live in, but surely the time has come to calm down dear?

    It was not the end of days when Obama was photographed with his feet up on the Oval Office desk & this weeks evenements are not the end of civilisation as we know it.

  40. Probably for some people having a black president in the White House is a much worse outrage than having hundreds of rioters, killers and looters in the Capitol smashing up the place.

  41. The Chinese and Iranians are openly mocking the disorder that Trump unleashed.

  42. Yes, it was pretty crass to see Putin’s RT gleefully quote champions of democracy like Rouhani and Erdogan criticising US democratic institutions.
    This is America at the end of the Trump era.

  43. When a 34 yr old unarmed female military vet with 4 foreign tours and an unblemished record is shot dead and characterised as a conspiracy nut and terrorist by the US MSM Dems & fellow travellers on ATW, because she attempted to climb through a door… =

    Yuuuuuuuuge cognitive dissonance, no ?

  44. Here are Pete’s and Patrick’s, and now probably also Dyaym’s, patriots in action (watch to the end)

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QVZvp-Dv0gg

    So who’s for cognitive dissonance?

  45. The discussion here reflects exactly the point I make in my earlier comment. An unwillingness to move out of partisan silos and judge behaviour as it is. This time it is the Right , represented here by JM djaym, Pete and Patrick , making excuses or engaging in whataboutery, but the left have done it too.

    Of course the four people I mention here would be reacting differently if the roles had been reversed. Had this been a ‘liberal’ mob storming the house to stop the ratification of a Trump Electoral College Victory directly following an incendiary crowd speech by Biden , ATW would have been flooded with posts by Patrick and Pete calling for Treason trial and execution of ‘Not so sleepy Joe’ but if we are honest the extent of angry commentary directed here against Trump would probably also have been less vehement from certain quarters.

  46. Noel

    That is terrifying to see

    Imagine being one of the policeman caught in the middle of that

    I wish that the local frauds had an iota of concern for them

    As has been said a number of times now, we are incredibly fortunate that we didn’t have dozens of deaths on Wednesday.

    The Capitol Police have been the subject of criticism, and not all that criticism is deserved. The cops here are effective and brave In the face of a large and energized mob.

  47. everything has its own season
    right now we have verified plots of domestic right wing terror being planned in the USA
    Its the enemy within, law enforcement have no choice but to consider this as deadly threats
    as they have weapons and show intent .
    Even if it turns out to be a few old fatties with pitchforks hollering across the land, you can’t take that risk to the public or the bedrock of democracy .
    America is under attack,. and thats not being all scary and libtardish, wet your pants stuff
    The country its laws, its elected leaders, its citadels of power really are under attack.
    Troll admits than is warning about it and gearing up for it , getting himself clad in moral outrage to say ” I told you so ” , apparently its all down to phantoms posts
    My word Tom , i didn’t know you’re being held responsible for WW3, but looks like it 😉

  48. ‘No matter how you speak on this, what side you are on it was an outrage. Everyone of the people involved should be prosecuted to the full extent of the Law.’

    Reads very like a strong condemnation by Patrick in this post.

  49. fun facts , a lil humour in betwixt the back n forth

    TWITTER

    Shortly after Donald Trump got permanently banned from Twitter tonight, he tried rogue tweeting from the @POTUS account, which is supposed to be for government use. That only lasted about thirty seconds before Twitter cracked down, deleting his rant. Now it’s happened again on another account.

    Twitter has now permanently suspended Donald Trump’s official campaign Twitter account @TeamTrump after he and/or his handlers used it to post the same rant that Twitter had just removed from the @POTUS account. That’s right, Trump has now been kicked off Twitter for the third time tonight.

    At this rate Donald Trump’s next move will be to create a new account called “Ronald Trump” and hope that Twitter doesn’t figure out it’s also him. Trump is the dumbest villain of all time, and he’s getting dumber as the night goes on.

    palmer .. who else? 😉

  50. back to serious, real serious
    Its turns out Trump was not just holding back on the national guard for 90 mins
    Pence ended up over-ruling
    Trump was busy phoning senators and telling them to interrupt the vote certification
    holding members to ransom , goes way beyond incitement
    This will all come out in his trial, and the members of congress/house will have all the details carefully worked out as to the time-lines
    He’s going to prison for sure .. He’s the ring-leader of the insurrection

    https://www.palmerreport.com/analysis/hostage-in-the-capitol-while-calling-them-and-demanding-the-election-be-overturned/35378/

  51. There is talk of Trumps people creating their own alternative to twitter

    I’m sure it’s not that hard to do

  52. I am not sure that he goes to prison

    I am sure that he goes into the treason Hall of Fame, along with Jefferson Davis, Benedict Arnold and the Rosenbergs.

    That is certain.

  53. Trump should be forced to testify,. nothing less will do and i hope he’s subpoenaed for the grilling, its needs to happen. He needs to be presented with the evidence of his crimes, as he’s still out there, and like with the Ukrainian denials of extortion, he’s saying he’s done nothing wrong ! That means he need to be found guilty , and reflect in prison that He did do wrong , grave wrong ..

  54. Sean Hannity & Tucker Carlson: “You don’t understand the pain these men are feeling.”
    ( parse that it means butt-hurt )
    adds yerp “The pain that made them purchase a Camp Auschwitz sweat shirt
    Fuck your feelings nazi scum

  55. Colm, on January 9th, 2021 at 12:51 PM Said: Edit Comment
    The discussion here reflects exactly the point I make in my earlier comment. An unwillingness to move out of partisan silos and judge behaviour as it is. This time it is the Right , represented here by JM djaym, Pete and Patrick , making excuses or engaging in whataboutery, but the left have done it too.

    Of course the four people I mention here would be reacting differently if the roles had been reversed. Had this been a ‘liberal’ mob storming the house to stop the ratification of a Trump Electoral College Victory directly following an incendiary crowd speech by Biden , ATW would have been flooded with posts by Patrick and Pete calling for Treason trial and execution of ‘Not so sleepy Joe’ but if we are honest the extent of angry commentary directed here against Trump would probably also have been less vehement from certain quarters.

    Shame on you……..

    My positions do not change, my position on the violence and those creating it is exactly the same for both. SHOOT THEM…..

    As for calling for sleepy Joes head or excusing Trump…… Beijing Biden needs nothing except his own bullshit to f’ him up and please please will you or Phantom show me where I have defended Trump in this incident…. just provide a link or copy and paste any support I have given him here…..

    You won’t find it, because it just ain’t there……

  56. You won’t find it, just like you won’t find any specific condemnation of anything Trump has said or done.

  57. Patrick

    I stand by my claim that you would have reacted absolutely differently had the roles been reversed on Wednesday. There is no way the substance,the tone or even the number of posts would have been the same. You many not have defended Trump specifically but you also haven’t uttered a single word condemning what by any standards is probably the single most embarrassing shameful day of genuinely treacherous behaviour by a serving President. There is absolutely no way you would have reacted the same has it been Obama , Hilary or Biden in Trump’s situation.

  58. BTW , I just want to make clear my comments refer to your political attitude to this and your treatment of the a president and others who proselytised this. I accept your position on how to deal with violent offenders is consistent.

  59. If this had been BLM the cops would have been stacking bodies, so amurica is still a good place to be an old white guy

  60. Patrick, how close to the “front” of the mob were you on Wednesday?

    Have you been in touch with law enforcement to tell them what you know about the violent rioters? Perhaps you recognise a few of them in the footage?

    Are you doing your duty to your country to catch these violent criminals and cop killers? Having attended this festival of mayhem, surely you’re in a good position to help I.D many of the terrorists.

    Do you know any of the red-hatted, overweight yokels crushing that police officer in the door for example?

  61. If I was in a position to see anyone or give any information at all Howard I would have given it.

  62. Emerald Pimpernel, on January 9th, 2021 at 3:26 PM Said: Edit Comment
    If this had been BLM the cops would have been stacking bodies, so amurica is still a good place to be an old white guy

    BLM/Antifa rioted for 10 months where are the prosecutions let alone the bodies…..

  63. “Oh you’ve complained to, yes like a person complains when he is delivered cold coffee at a street stand, that was the level of your complaining.”

    Which is stronger than the level at which PVR complained about the “stolen election”, which of course he doesn’t really believe happened.

    PVR is having a bit of a moment.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hn1VxaMEjRU

  64. the election was stolen Frank.

  65. “the election was stolen Frank.”

    If you had any evidence of that you would present it. All you have are conspiracy theories.

  66. “the election was stolen Frank.”

    Well at least you had a “nice time” waving the flag to “protest” it.

    The Rally was very nice, the wife and I drove down parked for free, and walked the Capital Mall to the Rally. The Rally was just off the Mall, we stopped at the Washington Monument and viewed down into the crowd. We we’re 2 jumbo screens away from the stage this Rally not up against the stage like in Pa.
    It was a good time.

    Like that is how anybody would behave if they believed that happened.

    Somebody stole the election and the nuclear codes but PVR went to a rally and had a nice time so cool cool cool. Shit happens.

  67. I did enjoy it.

    5 states violated the constitution Seamus, you can live in denial or your own little fantasy world all you want. The election was stolen, and is the first problem that needs correcting while at the same time it will be the hardest thing to correct because the corrupt system benefits those in power.

  68. “5 states violated the constitution Seamus”

    No they didn’t. You don’t understand your own constitution and seem to confuse the election for representatives and senators with the Presidential election. Again if you had any evidence you present it. But you don’t. You are as braindead as the morons who stormed the Capitol – fed the same bullshit conspiracy theories with no critical capacity to analyse them and realise that they are bullshit conspiracy theories.

  69. don’t be an ass Frank, I know it’s hard to fight your natural state, but you should give it a try.

    The right to assemble freely in peaceful protest to call for the redress of grievances is exactly how it’s supposed to be done.

  70. “The right to assemble freely in peaceful protest to call for the redress of grievances is exactly how it’s supposed to be done.”

    And yet your mob attacked the Capitol.

  71. the election was stolen Frank.

    I wonder if I keep repeating: ‘I’m a multi-millionaire”, (even though it’s not true), enough times it will magically just become true.

  72. Seamus you can foam at the mouth and repeat your idiocy all you want. 5 State’s veered from the constitution and changed voting laws through means other than the Legislature.

    That is irrefutable and un-constitutional. So stomp your feet all you want, Biden will be President, but he stole the election.

    Now your denial or lack of intelligence to grasp that is of no concern and irrelevant to those facts.

  73. “5 State’s veered from the constitution and changed voting laws through means other than the Legislature.”

    Nowhere in the constitution does it say that only state legislatures can change voting laws. You don’t understand your own constitution. See if you could actually think for yourself, instead of just repeating (sometimes racist or anti-semitic) conspiracy theories made up by other people, then maybe you could make an intelligent point. But you don’t have the ability to do that.

  74. Patrick

    5 States will have violated the Constitution only when the Supreme Court declares they have. That is how your Constitutional legal system works. Violation isn’t decided by one bloke on the Internet !

  75. In fairness these guys don’t know the state constitution either

    It’s all repeated Levin Trump nonsense

  76. The lost souls of Trumperism and QAnon

    https://nypost.com/2021/01/09/roseanne-boyland-who-died-in-capitol-quit-drugs-and-fell-to-qanon/

  77. Yet more evidence of the complete lunatics that support Trump – everywhere we look.

    Tragic in this case. Sad and stupid are easy to lead astray.

  78. You cannot wake somebody who is pretending to be asleep.

  79. Patrick

    QAnon is a really noticeable part of the Trump movement now

    What do you think about it

  80. In order for good faith actors to find reconciliation and healing, the bad faith actors must first be removed from the equation. Put Trump in prison, make sure his goons never again have a seat at the table, and then the rest of us can all find a way to move forward.

  81. Troll said, “5 State’s veered from the constitution and changed voting laws through means other than the Legislature.

    That is irrefutable and un-constitutional.”

    This is not true.

    But if it were…

    The governors of Texas and North Carolina unilaterally changed their election laws immediately prior to the election, bypassing their state legislatures. Why are the votes in those two states not being contested?

  82. Good question. Over to Patrick.

  83. oh i can answer that one easy
    Because Trump won NC and Texas

  84. We know that, but Patrick continues to claim his only concern is “Unconstitutional actions” wherever it occurs.

  85. still taking him seriously after all this time colm 😉

  86. Just giving him the chance to be consistent.

  87. Guess Mark Levin hasn’t called him back with an answer yet.

  88. I spoke to Pat on Zoom and he gave his answer right here

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xGprRpuXFj0

  89. LOL!!

  90. lol , best thing pat can do for his soul is to a post entitled
    you’re goddamn right I’m heap big butt-hurt
    open himself up to ridicule and vulnerability
    truth is i think he’d get a good set of replies in the mix
    about how honest he’s being ..
    hope springs eternal ..

  91. I wish I had Gleason’s hair.

  92. The governors of Texas and North Carolina unilaterally changed their election laws immediately prior to the election, bypassing their state legislatures. Why are the votes in those two states not being contested?

    Because the Supreme Court refused to hear it. Just because a case is not prosecuted does not mean a crime didn’t take place.

  93. Patrick

    Are you saying the ratification of the count in those two States was illegal and should be discarded ?

  94. yes