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David Vance

By Patrick Van Roy On January 9th, 2021

115 Responses to “David Vance”

  1. I gave that exactly 4m and 12s. Is calling out your viewers individually a new thing? Can you imagine every post here being like…

    Hello Patrick,

    I’d like to say, oh, Hello Phantom, what we need to do next… Hi Seimi.

    Painful stuff. The basic premise of the first 4m and 12s could be summed up with Twitter being bad for blocking free speech.

    Unfortunately you can’t allow incitement to riot. It’s the same reason the head of ISIS or whatever loon is fronting the latest Jihad to have a platform to spew their vile excrement.

    Just because it’s ‘our vile excrement we agree with’ isn’t sufficient reason to allow it.

    And, oh hello Kurt… if anyone else viewed the whole thing by our host

    Site provider, please let me know

  2. had a nose, breathtaking in its arrogance
    no accountability mentioned on DV youtube about the insurrection
    shure he was always going on about that in Ireland

    meanwhile here’s a summary of DJT

    Donald Trump:

    – Got impeached
    – Lost the popular vote twice
    – Lost the House
    – Lost the Senate
    – Lost the Electoral College
    – Lost to his own Supreme Court
    – Banned from Twitter
    – Impeached again
    – Headed to prison

    Biggest loser ever.

  3. Well I think Trump would take some pleasure from that last line. If he is going to be a loser, he most certainly wouldn’t want to be a mediocre one 🙂

  4. I love it…… look at this inbred

    smcgiff, on January 9th, 2021 at 3:44 PM Said: Edit Comment
    I gave that exactly 4m and 12s. Is calling out your viewers individually a new thing? Can you imagine every post here being like…

    Hello Patrick,

    He bitches about people being called out while doing it. You see what happens when your father marries his sister…… you get people like smcgiff….

    feel better Skippy?

    Don’t kid yourself sonny this playground is still built on blacktop. Just because I haven’t been stepping on anyone don’t ever think I’ve switched from boots to sneakers……

  5. He bitches about people being called out while doing it.

    Not sure you’re serious?!

    If serious when’s the 2nd movie coming out, Forrest?

    Troll, you can ban me. That’s within your power. That it would come on a thread complaing about censorship would be delicious. Given your post above I’m not quite sure you’d get the irony.

  6. why would I ban you smcgiff? seriously?

    You’ve never been a problem to anyone, certainly not me. You really don’t understand how this works do you?

    It’s very simple. On this site you can hold whatever views you choose to hold. You may get yelled at, cursed at, ridiculed, or even agreed with. As long as you truly believe what your saying your welcome to say it. How it’s received is based on how sane it is or the mood of the site….. the people that hang out here get cranky, yourself and myself included.

    What you can’t do is call anyone a Liar or threaten them.

    So whatever your “Perceptions” are, that’s the reality.

  7. You don’t even have to call them a liar. You can just catch them on a bad night and get banned for that.
    Also, you can’t call someone a liar, even when they lie.
    You really don’t understand how this works do you? That’s okay – neither does anyone else. It’s a completely random set up, where we are at the mercy of an insecure, immature fool, who will say anything, real or false, to boost his own fragile ego, and will demonise you if you disagree with him. It’s like being an American, on a much smaller scale.

  8. Patrick,

    If not a threat of being banned what’s the meaning of…

    Just because I haven’t been stepping on anyone don’t ever think I’ve switched from boots to sneakers……

    If not a ban threat, do you mean the threat of hereditary slurs? That would be an issue (pun not intended) if I were, say, 9.

  9. so pat gets to call guests inbreds, but woe betide if you question his fragile and fragmented relationship with the truth
    as they say oop North – worra knob

  10. Patrick

    From what I read, smcgff wasn’t making any sort of political attack on David, this site or you. He was just expressing an amused annoyance at David’s habit of calling out the names of regulars joining his live stream while in mid speech, hearing it as a sort of audible irritation. It wasn’t any sort of insult at all.

  11. smcgiff it means just because I haven’t picked on, called anyone stupid, ignorant, inbred, etc etc doesn’t mean I won’t……

    Dude… your Is calling out your viewers individually a new thing? Can you imagine every post here being like…

    Hello Patrick,
    is an oxymoron……. you are bitching about David calling out viewers as you call me out for calling out commenters…. so I insulted you for fun as I made FUN of you.

    There was no anger at anything you said about me or David….. I was F’ng with you….

    For christ sake people BREATH…..

  12. I see the old, ‘I lost my temper and got it wrong and now people have noticed so I’m going to pretend it was all just a joke’ excuse is getting another airing…

  13. Seimi are you ever going to untie the knots in your panties……?

    Stop whining

  14. yeah pats version of free speech is to give himself the freedom to insult you
    but ban free speech and the guest if you use one of his trigger words

    I repeat – worra knob

  15. Are you ever going to admit that you wrongly banned me and lied over and over about it and are still lying about it?

    Go fuck yourself.

  16. Troll doesn’t believe in free speech, Kurt. That’s just another lie he tells.

  17. wherez my thread ? lol – a good day for it … c’mon ya big meanie 😉

  18. Seimi seek professional help.

  19. Kurt

    Piece of advice. It’s not really very wise to call someone a knob and then ask them to do something for you 😉

  20. oops colm I feel a birrof a knob

  21. Don’t we all at times 😊

  22. Colm gets it…

    David is long enough in the media (he runs a PR company) to know how distracting that tactic is.

    I’ve been on this website long enough for David to have young enough kids to finally make him a grandfather.

    My politics is very different to David. I’d say, apart from a reused mid life crises excuse where we indulge ourselves with expensive cars we have little in common. He does have wit and an intelligence I enjoy. There’s no joy in disagreeing with a fool.

    I do think ATW is on life support. It’s a pity. I’d love a unionist voice on ATW. Sincerely. Even if in a know your ‘enemy’ type of way. Lets face it, the numbers can’t be great. When was the last time there was a new regular poster? Even Mahons is late of this parish.

    David didn’t even drop by to do a ‘happy new year’s’, so I doubt ATW is long for this world. I’ll miss like anything I’ve indulged in for so long (possibly to similar reasons David himself hasn’t pulled the plug).

    So, no insult to David, a little constructive criticism if he passes by.

  23. saddest thing is click on tangled writers, its not been updated for over 10 years
    pat is afraid to go there and just do a 2020 update even , can’t think of another reason can you , than its shameful to see the decline in real-time

  24. pat , not a knob can you put my post up fer me , be grand of ya
    what ya reckon colm ? 😉

  25. https://www.blogger.com/about/?bpli=1

  26. smug twat

  27. Is there anybody else that you’d like to insult today

    Perhaps you could join up as a participant in a few other websites, and you can start insulting people there as well

  28. he’s making the rounds…..

  29. I see Patrick’s using his ‘it was just a joke’ defence on this thread to excuse his abusive behaviour.

  30. ‘Séimí seek professional help. ”

    Troll in full-on denial mode now. It’ll turn out soon that I was never banned in the first place.

    smcgiff – I agree with you. ATW is on its last legs. What we’re seeing is the death throes of the site. We have it on good authority from Troll that the site is expanding, but that the current set of regulars are not important to that expansion. If we leave – so what? The site will continue and, in his own words, a new set of regulars will emerge.
    This site used to feel like a proper online community. People used to talk about it feeling like a pub, where people could drop in for a chat and a discussion.
    Does anyone feel like that now? It’s like the pub has been bought over, and the new owners want to attract a different clientèle, but they need to get rid of the old lot first. I don’t think Troll even tries to disguise this.
    A serious discussion about the future of the place would be good, but that won’t happen, not with the current management structure. David rarely drops in anymore. It’s unclear if he is even aware of what has been going on here. It’s even less clear if he cares. Troll certainly doesn’t. He has overseen – has been one of the main causes of – the destruction of the site.
    ATW has gone down the toilet. Now, we’re just waiting for the flush.

  31. Smcgiff

    David didn’t even drop by to do a ‘happy new year’s’, so I doubt ATW is long for this world. I’ll miss like anything I’ve indulged in for so long (possibly to similar reasons David himself hasn’t pulled the plug).

    I think that summation is absolutely spot-on.

    Because I’m mostly working from home at the moment, I actually listen to many of Davids videos while I’m working. I have to agree with you, his greetings and little chats that punctuate his main conversation make these very difficult to follow sometimes.

  32. Seimi, Dave, Seamus……

    If you 3 don’t like the way the site is run LEAVE ASSHOLES.

    If you spend this day disrupting every thread with your imaginary persecution bullshit I will Ban all 3 of you and anyone who don’t like it can leave I really don’t give a shit.

  33. Go fuck yourself Troll.

    Troll is showing his commitment to free speech with his threats.

  34. Seimi.

    It’s unclear if he is even aware of what has been going on here. It’s even less clear if he cares. Troll certainly doesn’t. He has overseen – has been one of the main causes of – the destruction of the site.

    I have to agree with you here mate. I think David has moved on to other things, and is no longer really interested in ATW. I could be wrong, but I get the impression David wants to be more in control of the conversation when he debates/chats with people. You see evidence of this honest new platforms. I don’t think he liked the intelligent and factual challenges he got to his opinions on this site.

    Whether Patrick is deliberately trying to destroy this site is hard to say. Patrick likes provoking arguments with people. I think even if ATW was full of people who have the same political opinion as himself, he would still do this. He just can’t help himself. I do believe Patrick would like certain people off the site though. Mainly the ones who challenge his bulshit for the nonsense it is, and therefore embarrass him in front of everybody else.

  35. Seimi, Dave, Seamus……

    If you 3 don’t like the way the site is run LEAVE ASSHOLES.

    Well, that escalated

  36. “Well, that escalated”

    It normally does. Because Troll, above, left out the biggest rule of the site. You can’t disagree with him, without being subject to abuse and eventually banning threats if you stand up to him. He is a coward and a bully.

  37. pats legendary meltdowns are as funny as fuck – , triggered by a comment about
    the absurdity and difficulty of holding contrary positions on free speech.

    at least jack of twitter restrained himself from tweeting to Trump – LEAVE ASSHOLE

  38. Smcgiff

    Well, that escalated

    It’s stage 3 on the Patrick cycle mate.

    1. Start off with reasonable debate.
    2. Get offended by something someone said, (or didn’t say in many cases), and become threatening and abusive.
    3. The situation escalates. Others are dragged into the argument. Usually by Patrick.
    4. Blame everybody else but himself for being angry and abusive.
    5. Appeal for calm, blaming everybody else for continuing the argument.
    6. Post multiple threads in the hope that he can get his embarrassing thread off the front page. Occasionally deleting the embarrassing thread.
    7. Announce that he is no longer having anything to do with the argument he started.
    8. Have nice discussions with other people in an attempt to deflect from the embarrassing thread and to try and show he’s not such a bad guy after all.
    9. Accept a minuscule amount of responsibility for what happened, but ultimately blame anybody and everybody but himself.
    10. Tell those involved they need to change their ways to stop this happening again. Despite the fact he instigated the argument in the first place.
    11. Goto 1

  39. spot on DaveA with the loop
    and here we go loppy loo

  40. I won’t be leaving. The only time I left this site was when comments made on it directly affected my life outside ATW.
    I won’t be bullied off by an angry child.
    Troll doesn’t want the conversation going in the direction it’s going. I wonder why?

  41. I am going to support Patrick here ( what a surprise some of you will say ) for one reason. Nothing to do with the substance of the issue but the sheer tedium of thread after thread after thread being interrupted with the repeated mention of the Seimi ban from last November. There is simply no justification for going on and on about it, but Seimi and Seamus at least have clearly decided they won’t stop taunting Patrick with it at every opportunity. It is not saying something new, it’s not adding perspective, it’s just boring repetitive and has no merit other than to sour almost every discussion. I may be accused of being a hypocrite posting this comment but it will be my last one on this matter and I hope everyone else just stops from now going on about it or replying to anyone else who drags it up again. It happened, it cannot be ‘unhappened’ but for Gods sake stop banging on about it and can everyone else just ignore Seimi and Seamus from now on each time they try and regurgitate it.

  42. colm can we mention upper bann or lower bann and/or david trimble ? 😉
    or jumping on the ban-dwagon or locker room ban-ter
    shall we ban talk of bans ..lol

  43. Colm,

    I wasn’t on this thread. So I don’t know how ignoring me would work. It was Troll who decided to pick a fight on this thread. I mentioned on another thread – which was discussing free speech – the irony of Troll’s bitching and moaning about free speech while he attacks free speech on ATW. It was on topic. Sorry if discussing the topic bores you. It was Troll who then decided to turn that into a fight (on that thread and on a different thread as well). You seem to have a pathological need to defend Troll (easiest way to avoid getting banned I guess) but at least be honest about what happened. Leave the dishonesty to Troll.

  44. // There is simply no justification for going on and on about it, but Seimi and Seamus at least have clearly decided //

    It’s more than that. ATW’s two “writers” have become completely discredited by their support for Trump and his vanity and lies; both have in fact become part of that vanity and lies and continue them here. They have simply drifted too far from the world of reality that most of us inhabit. I for one can’t take either of them seriously any more when they talk of anything political after where they’ve been over the past few years. Now, to make matters worse, they’ve become angry and aggressive after seeing their dreams dashed so conclusively.

    This place needs new writers, independent of anyone else. Otherwise there will just be endless derision between the writers and the commenters, which will inevitably lead to rows.

    For what it’s worth, I also think those aggrieved by the banings last year should move on. We all know about the injustice of Seimi being banned and the lies that went along with it. There’s nobody worthwhile left to convince and I don’t know why such good people still bother.

  45. then leave…… no one is holding anyone hostage.

    If you don’t like the site, if you are bored by it’s writers, if you don’t like me, if you don’t like my rules……

    LEAVE

    Stop being disruptive.

  46. No one is being disruptive except you Troll. So maybe you should stop being disruptive. We all know what your end game is. You like to pretend that you support free speech but every single person here knows that is a lie. You want your echo chamber, just you and Allan bouncing anti-semitic, white supremacist conspiracy theories off one another. And you will abuse and ban people until you get it.

  47. ATW’s two “writers” have become completely discredited by their support for Trump and his vanity and lies; both have in fact become part of that vanity and lies and continue them here. They have simply drifted too far from the world of reality that most of us inhabit. I for one can’t take either of them seriously any more when they talk of anything political after where they’ve been over the past few years.

    well spoken Noel, in other words they’re busted
    all credibility is gone , hopeless to pretend or imagine any other scenario
    they should both resign forthwith , or indeed take a very long break – sabbatical
    because their shit just ain’t working no more ..
    can’t get fooled twice !

  48. So there has to be a uniformity of views around the Trump presidency. The views of Patrick and Pete cannot be part of the debate now ?

  49. Colm.

    That’s not what Noel is saying Colm and I think you know that.

  50. Colm

    I mentioned the ban and the lies around it once. Just once. The rest of my comment – the vast majority of my comment – had to do with my agreeing with smcgiff about the direction ATW is taking. I particularly mentioned the fact that Troll has stated on these pages that he considers the regulars here as of no importance to ATW going forward.
    But you would prefer to focus on me mentioning once being banned and lied about constantly, and jumping to Troll’s defence? Fine. And you think people should ignore me (and, bizarrely, Seamus) if it is mentioned again? Jesus, I’m surprised you can see the keyboard, with your head so far up Troll’s arse! You’re wearing him like a hat ffs!
    Just because something isn’t talked about, doesn’t mean it isn’t wrong.

    Troll

    Go fuck yourself. All of this shit began with you and it should end with you. But, to make Colm feel better, and because you are not enough of a man to admit your mistakes, I won’t mention what you did for the rest of the evening, so he can catch his breath.

    Why don’t you explain to everyone why they aren’t important to the site? Or will you pretend you didn’t write that too?

  51. Dave

    That was in response to Kurt saying Pete and Patrick should resign from ATW.

  52. Nobody should ‘resign’ from ATW. That’s just silly talk.

    The site needs a huge overhaul. It needs new writers. It needs to reaffirm its own goals. For months, it has been little more than a pro-Trump mouthpiece. It needs to re-establish itself as a UK and US political blog site. A few more posts about NI politics would be welcome as well. Where these writers – regular writers – will come from, God knows.

  53. Colm,

    Dave

    That was in response to Kurt saying Pete and Patrick should resign from ATW.

    In that case I apologise and I agree with you.

  54. Patrick has asked me to write a post, and I have been too lazy to get my arse into gear and get round to it. As to the posts by the main two editors being too pro Trump, I don’t think that’s going to be much of an issue after around 11 days time 😉

    Ps Dave, no need to apologise but you are always welcome to agree with me 😁

  55. //As to the posts by the main two editors being too pro Trump, //

    That isn’t the problem.

  56. i am being misunderstood, by resign i mean take a frigging break, lets others have some breath
    fact is colm and its not up for debate its just fact
    these two wise guys petem and pat have been consistently wrong about every major issue thus last 9 months, embarrassingly so, on both covid and the election
    I’d hang my head in shame if i was either of them
    look in the mirror and say to myself ” I don’t know jack shit ”
    and for the sake of the blog just wind the bullshit down
    its not a debate , peddling lies, conspiracies and mischief making they been up to
    its fucking atrocious and makes all the nuanced stuff about free speech and like seem utterly irrelevant when compared to these glaring errors of judgement
    which is why Noel wrote what he did
    and I’ll paraphrase it simple again
    These two clowns don’t know jack shit about anything ( and its been demonstrated )

  57. Yeah but apart from that, what are their faults Kurt ? 😁

  58. did i say thick as fucking pigshit ? oh yeah I think i implied it 😉
    there’s nothing for me here, but sh1t I’d miss most you guys, the truthful ones
    or at least those who search for the truth , rather than search for deception
    dilema ..

  59. //there’s nothing for me here, but sh1t I’d miss most you guys,//

    Kurt, please stay. Your brand of chaotic wit is just the right approach here for the time being.

    Sometimes I think you’re the one who sees things most clearly. You sort of remind me of Lear’s Fool, the jester; it turns out he’s the wisest of them all and the only one to recognise the true situation.

  60. Kurt says he is leaving approx. every 16 days I’ve calculated. This is about his 10th time. A certain person will be leaving the White House but this Tangled house won’t be losing its jester 😉

  61. Kurt. You’re like a mad eccentric uncle at a family gathering.
    You’re embarrassing, but entertaining, and we’d really miss you if you went. 😁

  62. bless u guys, but dying through a lack of reality Noel/colm the lies/ deliberate deception, arrogance, lack of honesty, admitting mistake are killing me man
    something gotta give ..
    they don’t put their hands up and say the obvious, the elephant in the room
    they got everything wrong, spectacularly i might add
    but instead we’ll be dished up more deceptive bullshit every fucking day to drive us insane
    pauls been off fer days, there is no play when you’re dealing with conspiracy batshit crazy fools who love the lie i mean really are in love with falsehood , like they’re having sex !

  63. Colm

    I’m not talking about people writing one-off guest posts. I mean regular contributors, who have posting rights, so they’re not dependant on someone else to post their stuff.

    Kurt said recently that Troll told him that none of the Irish contingent will ever be given those rights – a bit harsh, considering that Paul and I were contributing on a reasonably regular basis – so that’s us out. I can’t see any of the regular commentators here being given posting rights, or even committing to regular posts, so where will these new writers come from?

  64. ideas for debates
    Impeachment – that’s a good one, there’s plus’s and minus’s on that
    covid / election its simple , we’re facing 4k dead in USA and 1k dead in UK
    its a nightmare, shocking and horrific – the election was fair
    these are not up for debate , but this is passes on this goddamn site
    that is what pisses me off, not being able to use my mind to learn shit
    see what passes for debate etc
    its just thread of horseshit after horseshit about stuff that is already SETTLED matter
    except NOT in the minds of the dumb assholes that run this site .. FFS camon up your game petem and pat, we’re not fucking morons ..

  65. seimi if i had rights I’d do a thread on the impeachment, and that would lead into a lot of wider issues, for example .. its current , its relevant , its thought provoking .. !!!

  66. Kurt

    Yes because we’ve never discussed Trump or impeachment at all here have we !

  67. not this one coming up, no we haven’t , pay attention soldier 😉

  68. black humour of the day

    The President of the United States sent a mob to hang the Vice President of the United States because he was following the Constitution. And people on TV still talk about whether he’ll adopt a new “tone.”

    this is where we at

  69. Apparently some of the mob wanted to execute Pence. Trump all but condemned him as a traitor in his rabble-rousing speech. He meant a traitor to Trump of course.

  70. he did just that peter

    Twitter is removing white supremacists and domestic terrorists. If you’re a public figure and you’re complaining because you just lost a bunch of followers, it’s because you were being followed by a bunch of white supremacists and domestic terrorists.

    lmao !!

  71. Are they removing BLM and Antifa?

    Is pro rioter Maxine Waters still on Twitter? She has been in favor of rioting since the 1990s.

  72. DYOR
    Do you own research , maybe post on bayridge blog or something

    meanwhile Trunk has a 6 hr lunch with VP Pence haranguing him to do something ! anything about the election :
    Nunberg claims that Trump said to Pence something along the lines of “I saved you. I made you. You would’ve lost without me? How dare you do this to me? You’re completely misinformed.” Then Trump called Pence a “p*ssy” to his face.

    its just the theatre of the absurd .. just gets whackier and whackier

  73. Harri

    I am well aware of the answer to the rhetorical question that I posed

  74. i know that sweetie

  75. Then Kurt it’s clear you aren’t bothered by some types of incitement.

  76. Those who made excuses for the BLM and Antifa riots and murders are exactly like those Trump Traitors who make excuses for his riots.

    And vice versa.

    Two sides of the same coin.

  77. pack it in, i seriously don’t know the answer as to whether or not she has
    If she’s inciting violence , ban her azz
    clear ! sorry to spoil your gotcha moment panto-horse dames tom and colm 😉

  78. You don’t like it up ya do you Kurt 😉

  79. its not up me though you failed colm, sorry that’s life
    better luck next time – u must not have read my 11:45

    meanwhile

    Pelosi letter to colleagues says House will seek resolution calling on Pence “to activate the 25th Amendment to declare the President incapable of executing the duties of his office, after which the Vice President would immediately exercise powers as acting President.”

  80. Pat

    How was mask compliance at the hate rally?

  81. none to about 10%

  82. Very bad, even if it was outdoors

    Didn’t that make you angry?

  83. Kurt

    Pelosi will fail and Trump and his supporters will see that as a ‘victory’. How does that help to deflate his status ?

  84. Phantom

    Would you have found it more reassuring if they were wearing Covid masks and practising social distancing as they rampaged through the Congressional halls 😉

  85. I kept my mask on and stayed out of the crowd.

  86. Good

    The New York post reports that a NY Commuter railroad worker Called in sick on Wednesday, and then was busted at the riot

    I expect that he will be terminated

  87. I see some NYFD officers were also among the rioting crowd, and cops from VA and DC.

  88. That’s worse than waving at the camera while you play hookey from work at a ball game….

    If he got arrested…. GOOD stupidity has consequences.

    Even with my belief that mask are minimal protection, to venture into a crowd of any kind is just stupid.

  89. I expect that he will be terminated

    Not in the Arnold Schwarzenegger sense I hope.

  90. Here is the big Metro North railroad genius

    https://nypost.com/2021/01/08/mta-worker-suspended-after-calling-in-sick-to-attend-capitol-riot/

  91. Pelosi will fail and Trump and his supporters will see that as a ‘victory’.

    no more victories for Trump, its a point of principle this trial, you hear folks say lets just ignore it and move on .. not how things work- besides its pressure on pence to call the 25th amendment, which he said he’d do if trump becomes more unstable !
    accountability .. !

    Even with my belief that mask are minimal protection

    more of a fact than a belief, but something is better than nothing ..

  92. The Japanese believe in them

    How are they doing?

  93. FWIW I have no problem with Irish (AKA nationalist) writers not having article privileges. It’s a unionist/conservative/Republican website. It is what it is, warts and all. In fact I’d love an articulate unionist to contribute.

  94. Common sense dictates that a respiratory virus will spread far less where everyone is covering their noses and mouths. It is absurd to believe otherwise. It’s a bit like claiming condoms have no effect on STDs and pregnancy.

  95. Yep

  96. Smcgiff

    It’s a pity Andrew McCann has never returned. However debates around Unionism and Nationalism were always going to decline as the conflict ended.

  97. Arnold Schwarzenegger (GOP) sticks it to Trump and Trumpists:

    https://twitter.com/Schwarzenegger/status/1348249481284874240?s=20

  98. I Saw that from Arnold S.

    He spoke well, honestly.

  99. Very good from Arnold. I always said on these pages that I supported President Trump due to his policies, but I didn’t like him personally. It seems I completely missed the cult that was building around him. And this cult ended as cults usually do.

    In the end, I now realize that having a first rate character is more important than making the trains rum on time. That’s my mea culpa!

  100. but look at the character of the man he’s being replaced with. We did not trade up.

  101. but look at the character of the man he’s being replaced with. We did not trade up.

    nauseating comment of the year 2021 !

  102. kurt

    At this point, the cultists are left with nothing but “but whatabout…?”

    Charles

    An honest and principled comment and admission, as per usual. You’re a good man, Mr. InTexas! 🙂

    Peter

    I saw that from Schwarzenegger. Very good.

    At this point, who is left who still believes in Trump? Of the big-hitters, I mean?
    I think that anyone who was still openly defending/supporting him after the events of last week should be watched closely themselves in the future. Their moral compasses are obviously skewed and are clearly the type of people who put power before the people they purport to represent.

  103. well spoken charles, but dismantling cults is never easy
    the leader wants to take them all down with him , that’s the MO – see jonestown
    and in Trunks case, there’s plenty more money he wants to extract from them
    seeing as they believe every word out of his mouth, he’s still on a winning run

  104. clip of the year so far

    “you’re treating me like a f–cking black person”

    https://twitter.com/La_Bete_humaine/status/1348535739219263494

  105. Peter.

    That Arnold Schwarzenegger video was really good. Cheers.

    I don’t know how good Biden is going to be as a president. But let’s be honest, he’d have to go some to be worse than Trump. A plank of wood with a pair of googly eyes stuck on it would make a better president than Trump.

  106. Colm,

    Common sense dictates that a respiratory virus will spread far less where everyone is covering their noses and mouths. It is absurd to believe otherwise. It’s a bit like claiming condoms have no effect on STDs and pregnancy.

    Absolutely spot-on.
    I posted links that provide evidence that masks are effective multiple times on here. (I noticed they’ve never actually been addressed by The mask deniers.)
    You’d have to be some kind of f****** moron not to realise that masks, (whilst not 100-percent effective), will go some way to reducing the spread of the virus.

  107. I think in years to come Trump will wear his notoriety as a badge of pride . As he sees those historic comparative lists of Worst or most controversial or most criminal Presidents in surveys in the futire he will hold up the results and loudly proclaim to anyone who will listen..

    “SEE THIS LIST HERE. I’M NO 1 ON IT. NOBODY ELSE COMES CLOSE NOBODY CAN BEAT ME. I AM THE BEST AT EVERYTHING I DO, I AM OFFICALLY THE WORSTEST EVER EVER PRESIDENT BY MILES. THEY CAN’T TAKE THAT AWAY FROM ME ” 🙂

  108. lol colm
    ofc the opposite, Trump fears humiliation more than anyone in the world., the roots of his insecurity go deep. Being thought of as a loser is almost a self-annihilation , alas for him it won’t lead to a zen moment of liberation but a hopelessness and despair almost unimaginable.

    For Brother Noel 🙂

    eructation of unhealthy souls, into the faded air , the torpid

    https://literature.stackexchange.com/questions/15310/understanding-the-meaning-of-eructation-of-unhealthy-souls-in-t-s-eliots-bur

  109. Trump still hasn’t spoken to the VP since Wednesday

    That in itself is incredibly damning

  110. Personally, i’m just pretty annoyed that i’ve just wasted about 15 minutes by starting to read this bollocks.

  111. if you read this whole thread I feel for you JM

  112. An Irishman tries to log in to make a serious contribution to David’s discussion above, but then keeps thinking of Trump and the fake election and Rudi facing jail and Don’s gold courses now losing the PGA and all those fools who turned up in the Capital and now having their stupid mugs identified …..

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wD1Z1b9-bjU

  113. JM

    You probably wasted 15 minutes trying to come up with a rebuttal but realised you couldn’t 🙂

  114. Nope but i did just watch a ‘Funny Wet Fart’ prank video on Youtube which was most entertaining.

  115. Well at least that would be more illuminating and educational than viewing a Trump speech 🙂

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