The shot not heard around the world
By Patrick Van Roy On January 11th, 2021
But the shot that still may start a civil war…….
As of Midnight last night 20 Million people had there communications shut off because a Corporation doesn’t like their Politics…… but that’s Ok they’re a corporation so if they refuse to honor their contracts and refuse to allow people to communicate on the phone lines they own well that’s just fine and to bad.
Parler has been shut down by 3 corporations working in Harmony to SILENCE SPEECH that they don’t like. F those 20 Million people. They have no right to speak,
Things are quickly building, As big Tech shuts down speech, Nancy with the plastic face is moving forward to Impeach Trump AFTER he leaves office. Why…. because if he’s found Guilty this time one of the Penalties of Impeachment is he can’t ever hold elected office again. She has said that is her goal.
Political Persecutions lead to Violence. Last night 20 Million people were Politically Persecuted in the U.S.
How many of you are laughing about it?
Big Tech's assault on Parler proves it's gone full cartel https://t.co/jzYdzLcyZA via @nypost
— The Troll (@TheCityTroll) January 11, 2021
I am troubled by the shutdown of Parler by a concerted action of much larger corporations.
Parler has a lot to answer for. In their short life, they have been very bad actors, not sympathetic whatsoever. Their website has been allowed to be a hotbed of terroristic planning.
But no one should cheer what Apple, Google and Amazon has done.
They shut down Parler today, they’ll shut down many other sites tomorrow.
QAnon and all those patriots now have nowhere to discuss the beautiful interior designs in all those rooms of the Capitol …. ?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wD1Z1b9-bjU
so instead the anger will foment in the darkness Noel…. 20 Million angry people, not being able to vent their anger in words….. how do you perceive that anger will come out?
You have to look at what you wrote….. Terrorist Planning? Where did a terror plot take place that was organized on Parler? Twitter an Facebook host pages and accounts for the PLO, BLM, The CCP, The Ayatollah of Iran….. is Facebook and Twitter “bad actors”
There was a terrorist attack on the Capitol this past Wednesday.
Much of it was planned on parler, including advice for people to ( illegally ) bring guns into Washington DC, by car, not on a plane so the guns could be brought in undetected.
There was open talk of arresting or executing Nancy Pelosi and Mike Pence.
All of this is on the servers, and all of this was allowed by Parler. Wait until the FBI sinks it’s teeth into this, much more will be known soon.
This was internal terrorism, treason, insurrection, entirely illegal.
And Parler was sleeping at the switch or worse when very much of it was organized on their website.
If that is what you are calling a terrorist attack then EVERY riot this year was a Terrorist Attack…. So we have had over 300 terrorist attacks this year, 299 of them by Joe Biden supporters.
That is the statement you are making.
I have never been on Parler, and while I have read that its creators tried cleverly to legally absolve themselves of any responsibilities for illegal content or fomenting of violence or crime on it, I still agree with Phantom that the ease with which huge virtual monopoly internet companies were able to combine to remove it entirelyfrom being operation isn’t something that should be casually cheered. Its always easy to be relaxed when such action is being done to something you oppose, but there seems to be a bandwagon developing in these censorious moves which can eventually prove damaging to genuinely full and open debate and communications. There should be much more thought and process before such major actions are undertaken.
20 million Americans have not been silenced. 20 million Americans may have to use a different app to reach every corner of the developed world, but they haven’t been silenced.
“Oh no, one of my choices has been taken away!”
The worrying thing here is what Phantom said – that larger corporations were able to do this in the first place.
Every attack by BLM/Antifa was not an attempt to overthrow the democracy.
Every attack by them was not an attempt to kill people – a lot of it was just arson and theft, because that’s what they do.
And I have always wanted those bad actors punished with severity.
But what happened on Wednesday was much worse. They wanted to destroy the country, the Trump rioters killed a policeman by bludgeoning him to death at close quarters, they probably caused the recent death of a second cop by suicide.
Do not dare minimize the nature of this insurrection. It was terrorism as incited by a mad president ( ” wild time ” ) , and everyone knows it.
oh but a Trump rally was…. do you know how stupid and inflamatory your words are?
Don’t worry your stupidity is echoed by people in power. Durbin and Schneider have drafted a Bill to classify MAGA, MAGA Rallies and ALL attending them as DOMESTIC TERRORISTS.
Yeah this isn’t a fire that’s going to get out of control.
The insurrection and murders at the Capitol was terrorism.
And those who participated in the violence are terrorists.
Sorry if anyone is offended at the plain truth.
Phantom,
Just to make it clear again to those of limited reading comprehension, I’m against the removal of the Parler App. However, like having an account on Facebook or Twitter, Parler was an app hosted on Apple, Amazon’s and Google’s servers and as such had to follow their guidelines.
Plenty of other apps have been removed in the past for similar reasons. (Remember Gab anyone?)
Parler can set-up it’s own servers and infrastructure if it wished to start again and be free from corporate interference. Obviously, a much more expensive option though.
They will probably be back.
They say that they are talking to others
It’s not impossible that they will find a home on foreign servers.
But they can’t erase any of the terror planning messages, all of that is saved outside of their control.
Fine then EVERY protest this year that resulted in violence was a terrorist attack. The attack on the Federal Courthouse in Portland lasted 3 months 2 people died, over 100 cops went to the hospital.
So for three months Portland was suffering a Terrorist attack.
I’m sure they will be back in some form or other Phantom.
A more concerning issue for me would be if governments started banning sites like Parler.
Phantom is the perfect example….. he has no clue what he is doing.
After 10 months of riots, looting, burning, and MURDER by Biden supporters 1 Trump rally breaks into a riot and THOSE PEOPLE ARE TERRORISTS, and everyone there is a domestic terrorist while those that caused BILLIONS in Damage and caused 100s of deaths…. well they were just participating in Democracy….
You’re helping promote the upcoming violence.
The Banks are now involved in blackballing Republicans
Wall Street Banks Freeze Political Donations After Capitol Hill Riots, Threaten Pro-Trump Politicians with Blacklisting
https://www.breitbart.com/economy/2021/01/11/wall-street-blacklist/
If you think that BLM/Antifa are Biden supporters, you are even more out of touch than you appear.
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Corporations shouldn’t give cash to any politician in a free country
Bit of an exaggeration Patrick !
Apple won’t unlock the phones of Terrorists so the FBI/CIA can get into their communications over a violation of “civil liberties”, but they have no problem shutting down the speech of Conservatives.
Our Civil Liberties are less important than dead terrorists.
no Colm several hundred people have died in the riots this year along with several cops.
Oh for Gods sake
Why not say a billion died in them, in the Pelosi Holocaust
Oh so no one died in the Biden riots, people weren’t found dead in burned businesses, a cop wasn’t assassinated outside a Federal Building…. and on and on… none of that happened huh…..
Patrick
I believe about 30-40 people died in those riots. 30-40 too many, each an awful tragedy, but you don’t benefit your own argument by claiming inaccurately that it was ‘hundreds’ .
Two billion died
Pelosi marched them into ovens
Bibi tried to save them but Schumer wouldn’t let him
Hey Phantom go down to your nearest Police Dept and tell them they’re full of shit. No cops have been attacked and killed, and no people were killed in any of the riots…
you see this is what is going to lead to the really bad violence. People like Phantom who keep telling everyone that the riots that destroyed Billions and left 100s dead in their wake were nothing, but what happened at one Trump rally was terrorism so the right must lose their rights……
I have always wanted the strongest justice against those who attack cops including BLM, Antifa and Trump supporting radicals
But someone seems to get mad when we condemn the Trump rioters
Why is that
//I have always wanted the strongest justice against those who attack cops including BLM, Antifa and Trump supporting radicals//
Hear, hear. There are too many with a soft spot for one side or the other.
But at least the Antifa mobs are not linked to any party. The Capitol louts are hardcore Trump fans and a central part of his movement, and they could hardly have been more clearly ordered than by Guiliani just before they broke loose.
I wonder if this lot would be making the same confused excuses if the rioters had executed Pence and Pelosi – which a number absolutely wanted to do.
Which Phantom hs never said, or anything remotely similiar at all.
No Phantom, you called it Terrorism…. you have not called a single act by Biden supporters that have cost Billions and 100s of lives an act of Terror.
You are escalating and provoking. Your double standards are fuel to the fire. You can spin and deny it all you want, but you and people like you who are applying two sets of standards are fueling the anger and instigating.
When you storm the Capitol, kill a cop, while on a mission of murdering two of the top three elected officials while overturning the election, you are a terrorist, and nothing else.
I’ve not been kind to antifa or BLM ever, you need to be some kind of deranged animal to think that I ever have.
I am attacking only the rioters. If that offends you, that’s just too damned bad.
You people and a large percentage in power are missing some very important things.
The double standards that have been in place for quiet sometime have not effected the general public. The fact that a Republican will be prosecuted for things that they just gave a Democrat a pass on has been an outrage, but it has not effected the general public.
Only people like us whose sport is politics ever even noticed.
Now however that Double Standard is being applied to millions all at once. People whose lives aren’t usually effected by the daily shenanigans of those in power. You have 70 million people who feel the election was a fraud. Now that pissed a lot of people off and they are talking about it. Which is all 99% of the people will ever do… bitch and moan it’s our national pastime.
Then in the middle of the conversation you shut off 10 million peoples phones because they are discussing what they believe is a stolen election.
For the first time since the civil war Speech has been shutdown among the people. You just told millions of people who have never had any interaction with government power to sit down and shut up…..
You think this is going somewhere positive?
You really have no clue into human nature. How crowds and mobs react, how large numbers of agitated people behave.
The conditions for real problems are being fueled not stamped out.
As much as the loonies on the right preach the evil power of government they can’t point to any real abuses. They just gave them a real one. The fact that they cut off in the middle of the night 10 million peoples communications for bitching about what they feel was an injustice will have severe reverberations. A Real attack on Civil Rights.
Things could get out of control very easily. There are at least one percent that are not stable and they no have a real event….
The next few weeks a very important and very dangerous.
if you believe that is an accurate description of events you really need counseling.
I never said you were kind to them or that you gave them a pass. I said you can’t label what they did for ten months as riots and protests and then say what happened at the capital was terrorism.
That’s what you did and it’s inciteful bullshit.
pat while you drone on , lost on lonely island , farting out a this boring monolouge
events are over taking ya whiny victim talk
Washington DC Attorney General is looking at criminally charging Donald Trump for U.S. Capitol attack
Donald Trump is already on a path to prison in New York State for various financial crimes; a widely documented grand jury is in the process of indicting him. But will Trump also face charges for the crimes he committed in office? A big part of the answer may have just surfaced.
Washington DC Attorney General Karl Racine is telling NBC News that he’s considering criminally charging Donald Trump with inciting violence in relation to the domestic terrorist attack against the U.S. Capitol. This wouldn’t get Trump out of office any sooner, but it would help ensure that he spends the rest of his life in prison.
that should get the HORN up on ya man
knowing your love of indictments and the LAW
~ focus on what’s coming to your chosen one ~ JUSTICE will be served
that might just have an effect on you .. the LAW and its consequences
response by pat :
what crimes ?
yeah ?
ofc Trump should resign tonight , and ask for a pardon , that would be my advice to him ..
Even if he is pardoned, he is a man without a country.
His future life will be a hell, disrespected by most across America and across the world.
lol…..
Trump Had a tense conversation yesterday with Congressman Kevin McCarthy, one of his strongest supporters
Trump said that the Wednesday riots were by antifa. McCarthy barked back that this was completely untrue, that he was there, that these were MAGA people who rioted.
Trump remains completely unhinged, he s still babbling about stolen elections and all of that nonsense.
According to Fox News, Trump had a meeting with Mike Pence yesterday in an effort to ‘kiss and make up’ !
The world is a terrifying place for him now.
And he thinks that the cause is ” everyone else “, not him.
His paymaster, Sheldon Adelson, controller of politicians, just croaked. Trump and Bibi and the casino bosses send their regards.
T
He really said that?!! If he thinks that then the 25th amendment may be more than reasonable as it suggests he has gone completely mad. .
yahoo news, reported by others as well
Trump is Allan at this point. And so are all who still say this election was stolen stuff
One thing this Rep debacle, as well as generally the political and economic uncertainty in the west with Corona etc, has shown is how stable everything from the international security situation to the US economy must be.
There has been no serious fall in the US economy, and despite the mess no rogue country has tried to take advantage of it. Russia is more a sly fox than a bear, the Iranian leadership is insane and China and NK are as we know them. But still nobody has used the chaos for short-term benefits and the western economies are still quite stable despite this unprecedented strain – so still plenty of good news around.
Some people are predicting trouble (and if there is, it will most likely be a Waco kind of event or individual assassinations, rather than anything really serious), but they also predicted so many other things that never happened.
The US deep state ( the huge number of great government workers and officials ) is a good thing.
They have served the country and world well under four years with an idiot residing at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue
The Bureaucracy is the largest laziest Union in the country. They don’t make anything, they do not add value to our lives, you can not fire anyone, and the only qualification you need to get hired is pull from a Politician…….
Wrong again.
Most federal and I believe state civil servants aren’t appointed or protected by any politician or political group. When political power changes, their jobs are not affected.
They are hired after taking various exams, as part of a process.
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For example, Trump never had the power to fire Dr. Fauci, a civil servant, while he had the power to fire others.
Predicted violent planned events rarely happen as feared which is why I think the FBI chatter about the armed groups wont come to much, but yes a sort of ‘lone wolf’ mass shooting distraction event somewhere else is potentially more worrying.
There is concern that some police officers would be sympathetic to the cause of treason.
Force commanders and FBI are looking at the outside threat, but also the inside threat.
I think the chances of any attempt to violently disrupt the inauguration is virtually zero. Security will bee too massive. Most if not virtually all of these right wing armed groups are all talk and show. They wouldn’t actually do anything that seriously put themselves at risk.
Phantom have you ever worked for the Federal Government? If yes what dept and when… I worked for the IRS it’s where I met my wife. If you’ve never worked for the Federal Government what are you basing your knowledge of government workers on?
Boy you are the expert on everything.
Most federal servants are civil servants.
Look it up.
and every civil servant up to mgr level is a Union Member Phantom….. it the single largest Union in the Country. It’s over paid and out of control.
Once again skippy you are clueless…..
The United States federal civil service is the civilian workforce (i.e., non-elected and non-military public sector employees) of the United States federal government’s departments and agencies.
I found this interesting….
//The US deep state ( the huge number of great government workers and officials ) is a good thing.//
Yes, I’d imagine that’s what keeps everything chugging alone, while the country leader is out playing endless rounds of golf or lying in bed writing endless brainless tweets or going outside and making even more mess.
Public administration is a thing everyone likes to complain about, but overall those people have a vital job to do and are probably on average far more conscientious, hard-working and intelligent than the average politician.
and the persecutions continues to spread…..
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-deutsche-bank/trump-dropped-by-biggest-lender-deutsche-bank-for-future-business-nyt-idUSKBN29H0PM
The fight is engaged on multiple fronts…..
https://thepostmillennial.com/rumble-sues-google-for-anti-trust-violations
here something to make some of you smile.
https://www.foxbusiness.com/markets/sheldon-adelson-las-vegas-sands-obituary
any bets on how long after Biden takes office this clown starts testing missiles and warheads?
https://americanmilitarynews.com/2021/01/north-koreas-kim-vows-to-bring-arch-enemy-us-to-its-knees/
The UN is going to fix everything
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2021/01/12/no-going-back-u-n-chief-guterres-promises-rebuilt-world-in-coronavirus-wake/
I want to know why they weren’t social distancing or wearing masks…..
https://www.folkspaper.com/topic/two-gorillas-at-the-san-diego-safari-park-have-tested-positive-for-covid19-first-case-among-great-apes-5644064340836352.html
the double standard…..
https://thefederalist.com/2021/01/11/left-wing-terrorists-bombed-the-senate-in-1983-bill-clinton-let-them-out-of-prison-early-at-jerry-nadlers-request/
more on the PURGE…..
https://www.theblaze.com/news/abc-news-cleansing-trump-movement
just the usual….
https://thepostmillennial.com/antifa-journalist-charged-stabbing-attack
The speech police…..
https://thepostmillennial.com/facebook-bans-the-phrase-stop-the-steal
Patrick
You are on a hyprerlink overload mood today 🙂
The above reminds me that it’s probably good that Harri hasn’t been around for the past few weeks.
harri is here in spirit.
At times, I think that we have two harris. One thinks that Trump is Jesus 2.0, the other harri thinks that Trump is Lucifer 2.0
well normally I start my day sharing what I’m reading on Parler and twitter…..
Since Parler is down and since you guys need a daily reading list I might do a daily post of links as a regular feature.
Ah, that’s why he is so uninformed.
Stay away from both, even when parler pops back up again on Russian servers.
The sad thing is, Parler probably could have been a refreshing alternative to twitter with a genuine robust commitment to alternative and controversial speech censored by other platforms if it hadn’t thrown the baby out with the bathwater by letting anyone post overtly and openly violent and illegal content.
Trump’s biggest billionaire funder dies and his financier Deutsche Bank ends business links – all on the same day.
Who said there’s no God?
Noel
Don’t count your chickens. He might have left some of his Billions to Trump in his will 🙂
Patrick
If a website contains comments about Executing politicians or about members of the public arresting them or about the illegal transport of guns to demonstrations what should be done about that
Be specific . None of yer song and dance
This is the easier of two questions you will get today
“I might do a daily post of links…”
How does that differ from what is posted at present?
Greater quantity if not necessarily greater quality !
Fourth person tests positive after Republicans attacked the Capitol Building last week.
It’s a hoax
Well, obviously! 😊
Phantom,
Why would it need to be on Russian servers? There are plenty of providers in the US who would be happy to host it.
The App store aspect might be more of a problem.
Patrick Van Roy,
The fact those Gorillas were wearing MAGA hats should answer that question.
Maybe one of those Gorillas could be allowed to use Trump’s twitter account…
It might improve the clarity, veracity and sense of the comments 🙂
They should also allow one of those Gorillas to do Trumps press conferences.
He’ll just throw his own shit at the journalists, but that’s still better than the way Trump treats them.
Dave
Yes, but I understand that you can download an app to an iPhone without using the Apple store
There are other stores that can be used for this?
And if Apple messed with such non Apple store downloads, making the phones not work for that app, They would be messing with the private property of the phone owners And that would be completely illegal
Parler and Trump will be back up soon, for worse or worse
Now I see that multiple French and Mexican politicians are speaking out against the concerted ban of Trump by big tech
Good for them
Anyone can fight for the rights of their own allies. It takes spine to fight for the rights of your adversary
phantom , i don’t really get he issue here
twitter / parler are private companies , they can do what they like
if they consider Trump and others to have crossed the line, they ban them
I don’t see the problem, is there a problem here ?
kurt
A group of really large global companies acted in concert to ( temporarily ) shut down a much smaller niche company. That’s not OK.
And I’m not saying that parler is good either. It’s a poorly run site with target audience of radicals Truthers and dummies.
But I am very uncomfortable when big private companies try to destroy smaller firms, esp when they gang up on them, as has happened here. Many can play this game, not just against parler either.
hmmn? but even the language you use concerns me “gang up” – what’s that ?
an agreed a set of standards about giving or not giving a free pass to maga-terrorists
was considered, it was carefully deliberated and they decided in the end to cut the pipe
to me they’ve behaved with honour ..
When big corporations speak about honor, I reach for my revolver
i disagree, unique set of circumstances , 1812 was last time capitol was attacked
my sympathies are for the officers that are dead and those who might die in the next week
and if one life was saved by this clampdown i’ll be happy
it really is a specific action to a specific threat , that’s what’s going on here i believe
nothing more sinister, .. we differ its clear .. lets see how things unfold
we got a problem withe maga terrorists, with mage terrorist sympathizers, and with maga terrorist enablers, lets deal with that and see how things roll after Biden assumes office
We agree that MAGA terrorism has joined the other terrorism problems that our local and state law enforcement and FBI has to worry about.
I would hope that parler any similar sites are heavily infiltrated when they are back up.
hope so too
this has not escaped me tonite
from a REPUBLICAN if our resident maga-terrorist sympathizer is listening
Top Republican aide on House Armed Services Committee Jason Schmid resigns.
His blistering letter calls out congressional Republicans
who propelled “poisonous lie” that election was illegitimate
who now fail to “rebuke these insurrectionists”
https://twitter.com/rgoodlaw/status/1349064363500589058
It was a poisonous lie, with multiple major lies ( Dominion voting machines switched votes, truckloads of fake ballots trucked from NY to PA, dead people from Night of the Living Dead voting a hundred times a day in Arizona ) propping the edifice up.
There will be a special place in hell for those who made this up
so nice of you to be prosecutor judge and jury phantom…. will add that as just another facet of you being the All Powerful Oz…. lately closer to a flying monkey.
The Election was stolen, the machines were rigged and mail in ballots were stuffed the only people who believe otherwise go to family reunions looking for dates….. they are the same people the equate one riot to terrorism and the 500 other riots as peaceful demonstration.
You’re brain washed idiots being led down a garden path to your assured doom, you’re just to drunk with venom to see that light at the end of the tunnel is not the opening.
So Phantom when does your false flag op start? Them there MAGA terrorists they gonna blow up the Statue of Liberty…. because it’s from FRANCE…… F the French!
Do you deny that there was a terrorist insurrection this past Wednesday?
Do you deny that there is MAGA Terrorism?
( No need to bring up other bad groups every time. We know that other bad groups are bad. We’re speaking about the gang that tried to decapitate the House and Senate less than one week ago. )
Let’s look at the Great and Powerful Oz’s statement and ask….
Have you ever been on Parler, do you have a Parler account? The answer to both is NO
Have you ever been on Twitter, do you have a Twitter account? The answer to both is NO
Yet Oz knows all the people on both sites, knows what’s said on both sites and can JUDGE both sites as to which is better….. Having no account or spending no time on either HE KNOWS…. ALL HAIL THE ALL KNOWING……
It’s amazing he can step into Library and IMMEADIATLY know every word in every book just by being in their vicinity…. aren’t we just all in awe….
Do you deny that the MAGA terrorists did a lot of their organizing on that unregulated cesspool of a site
Hey rocket scientist where is your list of articles you started out with….. and my links Mr I know everything are not from Parler or Twitter.
I put them on Parler and Twitter from the original source… it’s how it works…. but since you are all knowing about Parler and Twitter you knew that right?
Hey Phantom I’m having a problem with the Auto embed on Rumble it keeps setting ratio wrong on the format screen….. how do I fix it ?
Turn it off, hit it, turn it back on.
If that doesn’t work call Dave.
lol….. perfect
I deny there is anything that can classified as a MAGA terrorist
Yes I deny both…… no Terrorism took place last Wednesday
So how would you describe the Trump supporters, who wore red hats, carried Trump flags, who busted into the US Capitol, beat policemen, one to death, and who went hunting for Pence and Pelosi with zip ties at the exact time that the vote for president was being formally counted.
What type of action was that and how would you describe the group of persons who traveled from across the US to do exactly what they had been planning to do.
Rioters plain and simple.
What do you call people that wear black hoodies and facemasks, travel around the country and attack the police for 10 months……
I call all of them terrorists
But the pro Trump terrorists have to be called by their name so we don’t confuse them with antifa
If not MAGA terrorists, Let’s just call them Trump terrorists so we know who they are
Phantom
You forget that Troll is the site’s biggest supporter of terrorism, if the terrorists are his terrorists.
The Trump Rioters wrote “ murder the media “ on a door, hit a photographer, stole her camera and ID, busted up other press gear.
Why do you suppose they did that. Has anyone been going out of his way to inflame attitudes about the press?
should we catalog all the death graffiti that has been left on court houses, municipal buildings even cop cars….
Phantom the only people hated more than the politicians on the right is the press…..
I am amazed at the depth and ferocity of conservative comment now.
As more and more becomes known about the president’s comments and inaction before and during the riot that was made in his name, impeachment and conviction becomes a real possibility.
oh bull….. what your witnessing is fear inside the bubble…..
wait 3 months