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HR 1

By Patrick Van Roy On January 26th, 2021

 

They gonna fix these elections…… For the People!

A 20 minute explanation of the Tyranny they are passing into Law as we speak. This video and the policies discussed in it will scare the hell out people with a conscience. Those that it doesn’t are part of the problem.

77 Responses to “HR 1”

  1. “This video and the policies discussed in it will scare the hell out people with a conscience…”

    It won’t.

    It’ll scare the hell out of people whose brain has been turned into mush by years of listening to this cartoonishly evil propaganda spewer. Imagine listening to Fucker Carlson and taking him seriously, when even Fox admits he’s not to be taken seriously.

    It’s a scam and you’re lapping it up. Turn him off.

  2. The entire message of this video is “ The Democrats are now in power and I don’t like it “ .

    Tough, that’s what Democracy is Mr Carlson.

  3. I usually look at these stupid links until the first lie arrives, then stop. So I don’t spend long on them, normally less than 30 seconds, as in this case.

  4. I read one of Tucker’s reports on Fox News website the other day and he claimed the National Guard troops being sent to cover the inauguration were being told to swear allegiance to the Democrat party. It was such an obvious lie it wasn’t worth reading the rest of the nonsense.

  5. If you want people to watch a video you need to give them a reason to do so.

    Here, why not say what one of these bad policies ( the so-called tyranny ) are.

    Everything you don’t fancy isn’t necessarily a tyranny.

  6. Well I guess people who live in countries where you don’t have free speech and originated as monarchies don’t really have a grasp on freedom.

    I guess you just bow and except these things from your betters…..

    Over here when the Government says we’re taking Federal Control of your of your Hamlet, and if you complain about we will arrest you it’s just peachy…..

    Free People tend to think different than you, but most of want to be a willing slave to the EU so I really shouldn’t expect anything else.

  7. LOL and theres a lie, amurica is more free

  8. Phantom if I wrote a post that said what was in this video they would say I was making it up.

    I provide video clips, and links to information our european and gb friends never see, if they don’t chose to watch or follow the links their ignorance is of choice.

  9. “Phantom if I wrote a post that said what was in this video they would say I was making it up.”

    Because you would be just making it up, the same way Carlson is just making it up. You have spent the last two months saying they need to federalise the election system. Now that they are federalising the election system you are calling it a tyranny. Are you lying now or were you lying then?

    “I provide video clips, and links to information our european and gb friends never see, if they don’t chose to watch or follow the links their ignorance is of choice.”

    No you provide propoganda videos. That isn’t information. Just lies.

  10. Patrick

    As mentioned earlier, without any shred of proof Tucker claimed troops guarding the Inauguration were being asked to swear allegiance to the Democrat party. Do you think he was telling the truth and if so do you have evidence of that ?

  11. The right would be much more effective if they hadn’t fallen into Tucker/Alex Jones/Michael Savage / OAN/Newsmax conspiracy world.

    I don’t know how any thinking person feels that this helps any good cause in any way

  12. Do you want the stories of troops sent home from their regiments because of being Trump supporters?

    The Reason the National Guard turned their backs on the Presidential motorcade was because each unit was vetted for their POLITICAL views and Trumpers were sent Home.

  13. So Tucker is now Alex Jones Phantom?

    Can you point to where what he says in that clip is a “conspiracy” theorie or just not True?

    Please supply time references….. I’ll wait.

  14. Colm

    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/national-guard-troops-vettting-inauguration-capitol/

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/jan/19/us-army-national-guard-members-biden-inauguration-right-groups

  15. Tucker, like Michael Savage and Matt Drudge, is a friend of Alex Jones.

    They’ve both appeared on the Alex Jones show.

    To a considerable extent, they swim in the same sea.

  16. So QAnon supporters and other crazies are supposed to have duty at the Inauguration?

    Well how about that

  17. “Do you want the stories of troops sent home from their regiments because of being Trump supporters?”

    Which isn’t true. 12 members of the National Guard were removed from the inauguration, out of 26,000. Are you saying out of 26,000 National Guard members that only 12 were Trump supporters?

    There was a violent attempted coup d’etat. Do you think preventing the possibility of another violent coup d’etat is not a good thing?

    “The Reason the National Guard turned their backs on the Presidential motorcade was because each unit was vetted for their POLITICAL views and Trumpers were sent Home.”

    Also not true. You need to stop making shit up. The National Guard members who were faced away from the motorcade was due to security protocol. Some faced away from the motorcade to guard against threats.

  18. You’ve become truly sad Phantom…..

    Ok so tell us what Political THOUGHTS are an enlisted personnel ALLOWED to have? What shows are they FORBIDDEN to watch or listen to?

  19. “Ok so tell us what Political THOUGHTS are an enlisted personnel ALLOWED to have? What shows are they FORBIDDEN to watch or listen to?”

    So potential supporters of a violent attempted coup d’etat should be part of the security detail to prevent those same supporters from attempting another violent coup d’etat?

  20. I oppose the violent overthrow of the US government.

    I don’t want any US officials to get the Sadat or Indira Gandhi treatment.

    The military is under oath to protect against enemies foreign and domestic

  21. So Patrick, you admit Soldiers weren’t asked to swear allegiance to the Democrats as Tucker claimed. That was a lie, you agree ?

  22. If troops were asked to swear allegiance to the Democrat Party, they may have burst out laughing.

    Ah, the things that these guys believe.

  23. So if you ever tweeted support for Trump or Q you were sent home, but you weren’t asked to “Swear Allegiance” to the democrat party, just if they knew you opposed it you were sent home.

    And Phantom…. you served. You believe our Troops would pull a Sadat…. You don’t need to comment any further, your TDS has totally cooked your brain. There is not a single drop of reality left in it.

    I love the way you all lack the BALLS to discuss the real meat issues, but instead want to concentrate on a single turn of Phrase in a 20 minute piece, and Phantom is attacking the messenger not the message while he wants to punish people for the friends they have…. I guess all these years Phantom finally agrees if your friends with kooks and killers then your just as guilty as them……. Good then I’ll just ban everyone on this site that supports SF/IRA…. guilt by association… Phantom just said it’s not just perfectly fine but should be basic common sense….

    Good I’ll start the removals…….

  24. There are more than one million active duty military in the US. Not all of them are good people.

    Lee Harvey Oswald served in the US Marine Corps. Timothy McVeigh served in the US Army.

    There are some extremists in police and military today. They are a threat to the American people.

  25. So you do believe our troops would turn and shoot the President….. no need for you to try to explain. The statement says all that needs to be said.

    And our SF/IRA contingent can talk to you when they are banned for their associations.

  26. (before the inbred crew gets their panties in a knot)

    No one is going to be banned for their associations in spite of Phantoms advocacy for it.

  27. Some of those who invaded the Capitol were Oswald/McVeigh types. They openly spoke of arresting or hanging Pence and Pelosi.

    And I think that some just like them are in the military.

    A minority, a small one, but not zero.

    So we guard against threats foreign and domestic. A policy that you apparently oppose.

  28. “So if you ever tweeted support for Trump or Q you were sent home, but you weren’t asked to “Swear Allegiance” to the democrat party, just if they knew you opposed it you were sent home.”

    Not actually true. You need to stop lying. Out of 26,000 National Guard members only 12 were removed from duty. Are you now pretending, because you’ve been caught in a lie, that only 0.05% of National Guard members are Trump supporters?

    “And our SF/IRA contingent can talk to you when they are banned for their associations.”

    I think referring to anyone here as an IRA contingent would be actually libellous and would open this site up to legal action. So you should tread very, very carefully Troll.

  29. You support a purge for political thought Phantom….. very nice Comrade.

  30. Patrick

    Were any troops sent home simply for supporting Trump or tweeting a pro Trump message?

    You can post Tucker Carlson videos but you can’t complain when people then pick apart the things he says or writes. You can’t get annoyed because other commenters here won’t automatically agree with him. The article I read the other day was a tissue of lies so yes that does damage his credibility with me and makes me less interested in viewing his subsequent offerings.

  31. “You support a purge for political thought Phantom….. very nice Comrade.”

    You have often shown your support for Joe McCarthy on these pages. So you don’t get to say anything now that it is you and your far-right ilk who are under the microscope.

  32. If your thought is to arrest and murder innocent people, and or to overthrow the legitimate government, you’re damned right I want you purged.

    And if you act on those thoughts I want you caged.

  33. I will for the second time break my rule and comment on something you say Seamus.

    I think referring to anyone here as an IRA contingent would be actually libellous and would open this site up to legal action. So you should tread very, very carefully Troll.

    Bring it on……. skippy I’ll see you in court.

  34. This site operates in the UK.

    You have no idea in the world how British libel and slander law works.

    I would cease and desist from all such comment going forward, at a minimum.

    This may not impact you, but it is not friendly to David to saying such things about known persons. David AFAIK has never done that.

  35. Phantom, on January 26th, 2021 at 3:31 PM Said: Edit Comment
    If your thought is to arrest and murder innocent people, and or to overthrow the legitimate government, you’re damned right I want you purged.

    And if you act on those thoughts I want you caged.

    and Comrade Phantom states unequivocally his support for THOUGHT POLICE….. have you turned any of your neighbors or family members in yet comrade?

  36. Another example was his claim that the hugely beefed up security was planned by the Democrats as a ‘message’ to the American people that the new administration would force its will by violence and dictat if necessary on the Nation and the bringing in of the thousands of soldiers and guards was a political act that had little to do with the violent events of that infamous Wednesday. Do you believe Carlson’s analysis ?

  37. “I will for the second time break my rule and comment on something you say Seamus.”

    Because you are a coward who doesn’t like to have his lies and conspiracy theories challenged. So not responding to the challenge is exactly the same cowardice that your previous banning threats would have.

    “Bring it on……. skippy I’ll see you in court.”

    And you would lose. Is David aware that because of your childishness that you are opening him up to legal actions?

  38. This site operates world wide and it’s servers are NOT in the UK……

    So maybe I know more than you comrade.

  39. You have no idea what you are talking about.

    I tried.

  40. Patrick

    Do you honestly think there should be no security vetting of individuals sent to guard political ceremonies ?

  41. “This site operates world wide and it’s servers are NOT in the UK……”

    UK law is 100% clear. Any information that can be downloaded in the UK, that can be viewed in the UK etc… is published in the UK. The physical location of the servers are irrelevant. So if something can be read on A Tangled Web in the UK then it is subject to UK libel law.

  42. And can we stop all the nonsense about libellous allegations and just get back to debating the merits of the topic and the veracity of Carlsons claims ?

  43. Colm, on January 26th, 2021 at 3:34 PM Said: Edit Comment
    Another example was his claim that the hugely beefed up security was planned by the Democrats as a ‘message’ to the American people that the new administration would force its will by violence and dictat if necessary on the Nation and the bringing in of the thousands of soldiers and guards was a political act that had little to do with the violent events of that infamous Wednesday. Do you believe Carlson’s analysis ?

    YES

    Colm Nancy Pelosi just put through the plan to place 15,000 Troops PERMANANTLY on Duty to Guard the Congress….. Because they are under siege….

  44. Don’t worry Colm I’m ignoring the riff raff.

  45. “And can we stop all the nonsense about libellous allegations and just get back to debating the merits of the topic and the veracity of Carlsons claims ?”

    Troll has access to our personal information, including email addresses, and has threatened to use it in the past. He has shown that he has no interest in debate, and only in personal attacks. As such libelous attacks are a real issue, even though there is a degree of annonymity on ATW. As such it does need to be said that Troll needs to act very, very carefully with his libelous attacks. Because if it ever had any impact on my life off this site (such as New Yorker’s unpunished, supported libel of Seimi) I will bring legal action, and I would win.

  46. Seamus

    By nonsense, I meant the fake distraction of false accusations which shouldn’t be used at all. I wasn’t trivialising the issue of libellous claims. I absolutely agree that Patrick or anyone else referring to anyone here as “IRA contingent” a real and illegal organisation in the U.K. shouldn’t happen. Let’s Stick to topic.

  47. Seamus I never threatened to expose anyone….. and you are the only person calling people a cunt and telling them to go fuck themselves.

    Now I will not debate with you because you are not worth the time, but I will once again suggest if you don’t like the site or you don’t feel secure here please leave. No one is holding you hostage.

    Don’t let the door hit you in the Ass on the way out.

  48. now lets see how long before the 3 stooges go psycho….. start the clock.

  49. “By nonsense, I meant the fake distraction of false accusations which shouldn’t be used at all. I wasn’t trivialising the issue of libellous claims. I absolutely agree that Patrick or anyone else referring to anyone here as “IRA contingent” a real and illegal organisation in the U.K. shouldn’t happen. Let’s Stick to topic.”

    I agree. But there is only one of us doing it and he needs to be very careful with his actions. He is the “manager” of this site and thus is not just another commentator. Thus everything he says, even in jest, even in anger, is this site saying it. And he is causing David legal problems when he acts like this. And I wonder if David is aware that Troll is trashing his reputation on his own site.

    “Seamus I never threatened to expose anyone”

    Yes you have. Not least in your use of some commentators real names despite it not being what they go by here. And then threatened to dox Mahons (though said you didn’t want to do it – but still threatened him) for pointing out your bullshit in August. Now I don’t know if that is one of the reasons Mahons is no longer here but I wouldn’t be surprised.

  50. Seamus that is a false accusation especially about Mahons. It does highlight your insistent fabrication of imaginary things that I personally have done.

    Since I’ve stopped engaging with you you have called several people cunts, liars and told them to go fuck themselves.

    The only reason I allow you to stay is you provide the perfect canard. You suffer from multiple insecurities and a persecutions complex. Your behavior is very cyclitic suggesting one or two underlying conditions, substance abuse or a natural chemical imbalance aggravated by substance abuse.

    Like most in that category you are highly intelligent, obsessive compulsive, and tend to get stuck in a hyper focused itch on things that you have been unable to resolve and as a result you lash out.

    I feel sorry for you I honestly do.

    I have disengaged from you and intend to keep it that way. I wish you no ill will and unless one of the other people here ask for you to be removed you never will be.

    I however except for the occasional response to your language or a comment like the one I’m responding to now I’m just not going to play.

    As one Man to another seek help with whatever underlying ailment effects you. If you do not believe you have one go to counseling they’ll enlighten you.

  51. Seamus

    You will be pleased to know that despite this unsolicited medical consultation being conducted by an American, you will not be charged for this psychiatric evaluation by Dr ‘quack’ Patrick. The evaluation was conducted under Trumpcare medical services 😉

  52. bull the bills in the mail……

    I’m a capitalist!

  53. “Seamus that is a false accusation especially about Mahons. It does highlight your insistent fabrication of imaginary things that I personally have done.”

    No it isn’t. Mahons called you a liar and you threatened to dox him – and made it clear that you wouldn’t just do it on this site but in other places. You covered it with weasel words about how you wouldn’t want to do that but the threat was still there.

    “Since I’ve stopped engaging with you you have called several people cunts, liars and told them to go fuck themselves.”

    No I’m pretty sure I only called Peter a cunt (because he insulted me first) and only told Peter to go fuck himself (as he wanted me to leave the site).

    As for the rest of it – absolutely laughable. The reason you don’t engage with me is you are a coward. I “lash out” at people who insult me. That is all. Is there any evidence of me using choice language or harsh terms with people who have not?

    “I have disengaged from you and intend to keep it that way.”

    Because you are a coward, who wants to post his anti-semitic and white supremacist conspiracy theories without challenge.

  54. Are you going to ask Seamus to make a payment to “Trump 2024 “ 😉

  55. “You will be pleased to know that despite this unsolicited medical consultation being conducted by an American, you will not be charged for this psychiatric evaluation by Dr ‘quack’ Patrick. The evaluation was conducted under Trumpcare medical services 😉”

    Indeed. Then again, Troll is an expert on substance abuse issues. Like those “Christians” who’s every second word is about how good a Christian they are. And like Troll’s concern for those with substance abuse issues it is all a fiction. He has used them as attacks in the past, and despite me not having a substance abuse issue, he has just used it as an attack today.

    I have no idea if Troll actually helps people with substance abuse issues. He does have a tendancy to make shit up. But I do know he’d chuck every single one of them under a bus if it benefited him to do so.

  56. Seamus

    I bet like most of us, you feel like abusing some substance after viewing a Tucker Carlson video 😉

  57. “I bet like most of us, you feel like abusing some substance after viewing a Tucker Carlson video 😉”

    I think conspiracy theories peddlars like Carlson are like substance abuse. They get you in with one or two. And then, over time it takes over your life.

  58. Carlson pisses me off.

    He can be very lucid and truth telling but there is a part of him that is in LaLa land, and that part destroys his credibility

  59. Agreed Phantom. He is clearly an articulate and intelligent person. If he concentrated on a fair and reasonable exposure of genuine Administration wrongdoings he would be credible, but he vastly overeggs the pudding with his “ evil dictators taking over America” rubbish.

  60. I think the issue has been the tabloidisation of the American media in general but particularly the right wing American media. Now don’t get me wrong it has impacted on non-right wing sources as well, most notably CNN. CNN was a powerhouse of American news but in the early 2010s they suffered a hit to their financial position. So they became more tabloid in nature, more opinion, more politicised content.

    Now the difficulty is that the tabloid like media is more popular. The three most popular news channels in America are Fox News (tabloid), MSNBC (tabloid) and CNN (tabloid). And because it is popular more media is going in that direction simply to stay in business. The Washington Times, a sober, conservative paper, because the sensationalist Washington Examiner tabloid.

    So people may not be getting the news they deserve. But they are getting the news they want.

  61. Fox News is now in a further race to the bottom with OAN and Newsmax.

    So don’t expect much improvement from their prime time opinion mongers

    Carlson, Ingraham, Hannity, the ” murderers row ” of fake news.

    ” Murderers Row ” a ref to the 1927 NY Yankees batters, on the best team in history perhaps. All American conversations should involve baseball some form.

    Murderers Row “ for the benefit of non Americans from places like England and Pennsylvania

  62. yes you’ll get the accurate news from the cnn, msnbc, etc that 4 four years lied about russian collusion.

    You’re so brain washed that after 4 years and no convictions that the stories are true some of you even believe the steele dossier was real.

    Not one of you have a leg to stand on in regard to your credible sources….

  63. From places like England and Pennsylvania….

    Ouch ! 😁

  64. I know the Steele dossier was boring boring boring. I would only think of reading it if I really really couldn’t get to sleep !

  65. Has anyone any suggestions on how possible new visitors can be kept away from threads like this?

  66. What about new visitors who would be attracted by threads like this ?

  67. yeah I could make them disappear Noel but I won’t do that.

    I also acknowledge that I am the trigger which is why my conversation will be restricted primarily to colm and phantom. I don’t want to slight anyone I just can’t interact well with others. So please no one take it personal it’s to avoid threads like these. I will do my best to keep that as my personal policy and acknowledgement of how I am as a person in conversation.

    I could drop a badger in Colm shorts and he wouldn’t go off (hell he might like it), and Phantom and I have been fighting for so long there really is nothing either of us can say to really set the other off…. The Troll may have died as a handle but it is who I am, I enjoy fucking with people…..

    so because I do want the site to grow I have stepped back from conversation. And freely acknowledge that I have always been the primary source of every argument on this site.

  68. Patrick

    You could drop a badger in my shorts and all I would say is “ Hello Badger, meet Python” 😉

  69. see

  70. “I also acknowledge that I am the trigger which is why my conversation will be restricted primarily to colm and phantom. I don’t want to slight anyone I just can’t interact well with others.”

    Would it not be better to have arguments but just agree to keep them civil? If you feel you have the self control to limit your conversations could you not deploy that same self control on maintaining a civil conversation?

  71. To be honest Seamus I miss arguing with you, you are one of the few who actually research your points and whether I agree with them or not you always make a good case.

    I don’t trust you though, I don’t care if you call it a trigger, a quirk, a psychoses, or just free entertainment, this part is All me.

    I don’t think you can talk to me without calling me a Liar.

    So for the sake of the site I won’t engage, because I do not Lie and when someone says I do I get real uncivil real fast and I just don’t want it.

    So I take the responsibility on me, because that’s where it belongs.

  72. I have made the offer in the past not to call you a liar in exchange for civility. I am still willing to make that offer.

  73. If your serious you’d have to define civil.

    I really don’t care if you call me a cunt even though I think it is the most revolting word in our common language, and I know damn well I’ll call you stupid or skippy or 100 other nasty little digs.

    So what is civility ?

    Define the word… see if we can reach an understanding.

  74. Insults in general. I respond in kind to insults. And I will make no apology for it. And that is when things go downhill because it just becomes two guys trading insults, rather than debating. So if you had the sort of self control to not respond at all then would you not also possess the self control to not respond with those 100 other little digs?

  75. so forget it then.

    Well at least we talked.

  76. So you are seriously suggesting that you have the self control to not respond at all but don’t have the self control to not insult people?

  77. Not this again. Come on, time out.