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By The Troll On October 14th, 2014 at 11:15 am

Death of British ‘troll’ sparks debate over Internet bile

That Headline caught my eye.  I use the handle that I use because when I started this the majority of the sites where people were engaging were “Progressive” sites.  I was part of a group that posted contrary arguments on the original Move On site until they closed it to anyone that didn’t tow their line.

In the story above I found an interesting set of paragraphs.

Britain’s Crown Prosecution Service (CPS) has instructed lawyers that messages sent via social media could be a criminal offence if they contain “credible threats of violence” or target an individual in a way that “may constitute harassment or stalking”.

“Grossly offensive, indecent, obscene or false” messages could also amount to a crime if a “public interest” case can be made.

These guidelines, introduced against a background of mounting confusion about such cases, have been shaped considerably by public opinion, said Chris Holder, of London law firm Bristows.

“I think people are so fed up with reading things on the Internet that you would not say to people’s faces — abusive messages to people’s children, Facebook posts that are completely obnoxious. The public have demanded that the CPS do something about it,” he said.

Oh the fun the Lawyers could have here some nights.  It would be interesting to see which of us actually would fall under the cross hairs of this “Agency”.

It’s an interesting story that should provoke discussion, if you’re interested the story is Here.

A self-made Martyr? Or ‘when in Iran……’

By Mike Cunningham On October 14th, 2014 at 10:16 am

If you are resident in, or just visiting a country with different rules of behaviour to those in the West; if you are sensible, or careful, or even just endowed with average amounts of common sense, you don’t go against the traditions or norms of that country. You may not like those traditions, you might even believe that those traditions are unjust, outdated or even cruel, but it is the action of a wise person to obey those traditions.

In Saudi Arabia, for example, if you are a woman, you are always veiled; you do not drive a car, or even sit in a car without a male relative beside you; for fear that your very presence might inflame a nearby man with impure thoughts. So you don’t drive, or go out by yourself.

In Iran, another country with stiff rules of behaviour, all of which are both well publicised and well-understood; if you are a woman you do not go, by yourself, to watch a bunch of MEN playing basketball, even if you simply adore bloody basketball!

So why all the fuss when a bunch of women, spoiling for both attention and a fight with the Iranian authorities, deliberately flout the laws of Iran, and after their arrest, claim the protection of the Foreign Office and the protestor’s family states that everyone is ‘torn apart’!



By David Vance On October 13th, 2014 at 10:00 pm


It’s seven years since the brutal murder of Paul Quinn by the IRA in South Armagh. The wonderful Suzanne Breen has a dark, disturbing update on that story here.

Up to a dozen masked men wearing black military style clothing were involved in the savage assault in a farm near Oram, Co Monaghan. From Paul’s toes to his groin, they battered him with iron bars. They used nail-studded cudgels on his upper body. Two friends of Paul’s had been working at the farm that day. IRA members arrived, beat the young men and tied them up in a shed. The lads were then forced to phone Paul and lure him to the farm by claiming they needed a hand shifting cattle.

Paul drove from south Armagh with another friend to help. When they arrived, Paul’s friend was taken to the shed were the other two young men were tied uPaul was brought to another barn. His friends heard him screaming loudly as the beating began, begging for mercy. As the assault continued, his voice grew weaker and eventually faded away.

The IRA. In action. No one convicted. According to Sinn Fein MP for that area, Conor Murphy, he is “satisfied” the IRA was not involved and that Paul Quinn was a criminal. Denial runs through Sinn Fein.


By David Vance On October 13th, 2014 at 9:34 pm


You would need a heart of stone NOT to laugh at this.

Assembly members have failed to elect a new Speaker after all three candidates fell short of a cross-community majority. Previous Speaker William Hay has retired because of ill health.  Sinn Féin said the DUP should honour an agreement to support its nominee Mitchel McLaughlin. However, DUP leader Peter Robinson said the appointment of Speaker should be dealt with at the upcoming talks along with welfare reform.

Excellent. So there is no “official” Speaker but guess who the acting principle Speaker is? Yes, Mitchel McLaughlin.

Stormont – where principles go to die!

By the way, McLaughlin was the guy who declared in 2005 that the kidnapping, torture and murder of Jean McConville by the IRA was not “a crime”.

I think it IS  a crime that someone such as he has ANY role in Government.


By David Vance On October 13th, 2014 at 9:27 pm

Here are some interesting thoughts from a leading British black politician who abhors racism. See the problem?Bz2aq8TIEAEGT_-.jpg-large


By the way, when is WHITE history month?


By David Vance On October 13th, 2014 at 9:26 pm

I see Labour are keen to court the UK Muslim vote by introducing a vote in the Commons on whether the House should recognise “Palestine”.  Just a few points on this one. Why would we give credence to a terrorist State that oozes Islamofascism? For your attention..



They may as well vote to recognise Narnia. Palestine already exists – it is called Jordan.

The Academic can’t fight a war…. what a shock

By The Troll On October 12th, 2014 at 11:39 pm

obama1-compressedAfter Eight Weeks of half-ass airstrikes by the U.S. there is no gain only further loss of Kurds and Iraqis.

Kobani gets eaten by the Islamic Horde as we pin prick useless targets and the Turks sit in their Tanks in the Hills above the Town and watch the Kurds get slaughtered as they block their escape and lift not a finger as thousands die. Not one delivery of promised Arms have been delivered by the Obama Regime to the Kurds as the street fills with their blood and their daughters are sold as sex slaves.

The Iraqis are screaming for help as Baghdad stands on the verge of being run over.  Obama twiddles his thumbs about the war, while at the same time that he allows the ME to burn he plots how to bypass Congress by closing Gitmo and transferring the prisoners to the Mainland to be “handled” in Criminal Court.

Two more years of this fool yet to go.


By Pete Moore On October 12th, 2014 at 8:27 pm

If a protest took place in London, and the media ignores it, did it really happen? Yesterday a pretty large anti-ISIS/pro-Kurd protest took place in London, ending up at Downing Street. An eight-minute video is here.

A google search shows only The Independent reporting it. There are no other MSM results. The BBC London news page, always keen to promote a favoured protest, however small, has nothing.

I suppose that’s Kobani and the Kurds down the memory hole then. They’re just not in favour.


By David Vance On October 12th, 2014 at 11:02 am

Well, the Sunday press is full of UKIP. We have one poll suggesting that UKIP will win ALL 25 of it’s target seats at the general election next year and ANOTHER saying it could win as many as 125 seats at Westminster, based on its current 25% share of the vote. Now then, polls are polls and all must be taken with a pinch of salt BUT only a fool would deny that UKIP seems to be changing the UK political map.


Lest some forgot, they have TOPPED the national poll at the European Elections in May of this year and they have a rolling momentum which is causing all kinds of problem for the Conservatives and Labour Parties.


The Cameronians are now between a rock and a hard place. Voters have seen that if you vote UKIP you get UKIP and many more will be tempted to make that choice. When they look at what happened at Middleton and Heywood, they see that if you vote Conservative then you get Labour, so confounding Cameron’s line!

Meanwhile, things look DIRE for Labour. It’s obvious that under Miliband, they no longer appeal to a chunk of what we can term “traditional white working class” Labour – the people who have seen their communities transmogrified by Labour’s multicultural and open border zeal!

My hope for the General Election is to see a Conservative/UKIP coalition – with Nigel Farage made the new Europe Minister, and with a firm date set for a National vote on whether we stay or leave the EU. We need to revolutionise Britain and this might just be the moment when it happens, just as it did in 1979 when Thatcher came to power.

I have read the comments about not getting too excited about by election results and that is fair comment. But as I have said, the European Elections saw UKIP triumph, and the “feel” of UK politics seems to be that we are heading for a moment in time next May when the British people will speak and the elite will surely not like hearing what they have to say. There is another by-election next month in the constituency of Rochester and Strood. Should UKIP win that, and I believe they will, then the panic button will resound across British politics which if nothing else should give us plenty to talk about!

We’re tired of lies we want the truth!

By Mike Cunningham On October 12th, 2014 at 10:44 am

As can be seen in the Telegraph story regarding Owen Paterson and the truly awful Climate Change Act, he is calling for the repeal, or at least the suspension, of this Act which promises to be THE most expensive legislation ever saddled upon this benighted Nation of ours. He states that the absurd levels of the so-called ‘Decarbonisation’ demanded by this Act will cost us £1,100 Billion in terms of cash we cannot afford, and after the disastrous damage wrought by the ‘Decarbon’ process, we will not have altered the Carbon Dioxide levels in the atmosphere by one ounce. Click on the Link, and read the story for yourselves.

Now speaking and writing personally, as I always do, I had a fair amount of time for Owen Paterson as a man, but probably a bit less for him as a politician. He was, in many respects, the typical old-time Tory from the Shires; his background was rural, his values seemed to be based in the English countryside. He voted against the truly ghastly Same-Sex marriage farrago, and he also, happily, came down like a ton of bricks on the limp-wristed Chris Smith in his disgusting and disgraceful actions when the Environment Agency’s wholesale abandonment of decades of sensible flood management systems resulted in the worst flooding of the Somerset Levels since records first began.

But I think that Owen Patterson ought to state why he has come out against the Climate Act only now, when on the back-benches, instead of when he was in Cabinet, and in a much higher profile position than now, when he could have stood up and denounced this Act for the ‘Green Crap’ it so soundly endorses.

Why did he keep quiet, if he believed that the Act was so wrong for Great Britain?

Why did he not threaten to resign if no-one took any notice of a countryman standing up for the Country?

Why did he stay in the Coalition Government if he felt that this policy, and this Act, was so wrong?

Why did he allow the Environment Agency to continue for so long with the perverted schemes of Chris Smith, when it was plainly obvious of the damage they were doing to the landscapes of England?


Or is the simple truth that he is, and always has been, just another greasy bloody politician, out purely for his own purposes, and ever ready to ditch a long-held belief for his own advancement?