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How heartening to see not all of our tax money is wasted:

MI5 held a secret file on Harold Wilson throughout the time he was Labour Prime Minister, The Times can reveal ….. Wilson’s MI5 file was opened in 1945 when he became an MP and remained one of the Security Service’s most closely kept secrets throughout his premierships, 1964-1970 and 1974-1976.

Good. A suspected communist like Harold Wilson should be under the eye of MI5. Most Labour MPs are Fabians and former (and not-so-former) commies.

I hope the spooks have a file on all of them. 

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14 thoughts on “MI5 And A Sense Of Priorities

  1. Pete,

    Harold and the ‘Ballad of Richmond Hill’ – now there was a tale that should have been told, – it might have inspired every pug ugly halitosis smitten, Lothario, that there was some hope for them….

  2. MI-5 tried to create a file on Gordon Brown too, but for some reason all the bugs they planted in his mobile phones kept getting smashed.

  3. nice folks in mi5

    though from what little i know of them i suspect they have enough secret files to mahe the east german secret police proud.

    n

  4. Most Labour MPs are Fabians and former (and not-so-former) commies. I hope the spooks have a file on all of them.

    Pete

    Nostalgic for the days of the Cold War, are you?

    Maybe you missed 1989-90 when the Berlin Wall came down and all the commie regimes in Eastern Europe collapsed. Most of their successors are now in your camp when it comes to supporting gangster totally unrestricted capitalism, Russia most of all.

  5. Peter, what exists in the East following the collapse of communism is certainly not capitalism, but fascistic corporatism.

  6. Peter –

    You think the end of the Cold War heralded the end of the communistic terror? Feel free to explain that one.

    And yes, I do support totally unrestricted capitalism. I absolutely believe in your right to own your property. Why don’t you?

  7. Pete

    Please give examples of where the "communistic terror" survives.

    I agree with you about private property. But the Russian oligarchs – did they acquire their property legally,
    or was it, to use one of your favourite words "looted"?

  8. Peter –

    Probably the single prime example of communistic terror here in the last few years was visited on Walter Wolgang, the heckler who was manhandled, dragged from the Supreme Labour Conference and arrested under anti-terror legislation for not showing respect to the communist Jack Straw.

    But it exists all around us now; anywhere anyone is afraid to speak their mind or assert their liberties as a free born individual, you’ll find communistic trerror.

    But the Russian oligarchs – did they acquire their property legally, or was it, to use one of your favourite words "looted"?

    Most often that property was looted by the criminal political gang in charge of the Russian state and fenced to their corporate chums – for a large kickback, naturally. Thus, those "acquisitions" were the very antithesis of capitalism.

    Look, you really have it arse about face when it comes to liberty and property rights. In a libertarian/capitalistic society the rule of law – the rule of essential law protecting our liberties, property rights and thoroughly restricting the power of state/political baboons – is a given.

    In a libertarian/capitalistic society there could be no Russian-style looting of industry and natural resources. "Crony capitalism" only happens and can only happen when the powers of the state are vast enough to loot great amounts of private wealth.

  9. But it exists all around us now; anywhere anyone is afraid to speak their mind or assert their liberties as a free born individual, you’ll find communistic trerror.

    So that includes Iran, Saudi, Syria, and various ex-soviet republics including Russia, which have specifically embraced capitalism?

    Oh, and crony capitalism is still capitalism.

  10. oh blimey …

    Peter –

    In response to you I purposely cited "communistic", not "communist". There is a difference.

    Oh, and crony capitalism is still capitalism.

    Rubbish.

    Your crony capitalism invariably is corporatism, i.e. the exercise of state power for private gain.

    "Capitalism", i.e. protected, private, property rights beyond the reach of the state, is the very opposite of your crony capitalism.

    If you wish to see an end to "crony capitalism" then you really ought to argue for the diminution of state power.

  11. Heh Pete

    The clue to "crony capitalism" is the word capitalism. Check out the Russian oligarchs – they are not part of the Russian state and most of them are ex-pat.

    Please define "communistic" and supply examples.

  12. Good. A suspected communist like Harold Wilson should be under the eye of MI5. Most Labour MPs are Fabians and former (and not-so-former) commies.

    I hope the spooks have a file on all of them.

    I hadn’t suspected that you were such a fan of big government, Pete.

  13. The SIS aren’t totally subordinate to the government, Fews. At least, let us bloody well hope that is still the case.

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