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wmccrea.jpeAs you have probably gathered by now, I don’t think much of the main Unionist political parties.

However, William McCrea’s statement on Sinn Fein/IRA and criminality in my view deserves to be both highlighted and commended.

Dr McCrea asked Mitchell McLaughlin if he still believed that the murder of Jean McConville was not a crime.

Mrs McConville, a mother of ten young children, was abducted by the IRA in 1972 because she helped comfort a dying soldier who had been shot just outside her front door.

Her body was not uncovered until 2003.

Just two years ago, McLaughlin told RTE that while the murder was “wrong” it was not a “crime”.

Surely Dr McCrea’s statement demands an answer.

If Sinn Fein/IRA still hold this warped view of what constitutes criminality then surely their claimed support for the rule of law is, as Dr McCrea puts it, “a nonsense”.

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28 thoughts on “When is a crime not a crime?

  1. If it is a nonsense, as McCrea rightly highlights, the why sit in power with them? Also, how about Gerry Adams condemning as degenerate killers whoever planned the La Mon House Hotel atrocity. And how about Martin McGuinness condemning as scum whoever planned the Claudy bombing. Mmm…

  2. Dawkins,
    I also like Dr McCrea and don’t think he will vote for McGuinness to become DFM any time soon.

    He is in a very difficult position and I think that he would also believe that the crimes David rightly highlights are reason enough to keep the IRA out of government.

    He singled out the McConville case because McLaughlin’s outrageous remarks highlighted the issue is starkly.

  3. Of course McCrea is right. The Shinners have failed to act on their supposed support for the law and will continue to do so. Not a single one of their members has given a statement to police about the Robert McCartney murder two years ago, despite being "urged to" by the leadership, and none have been thrown out of the party for their refusal.

    But let’s not forget that McCrea notoriously shared a platform in Portadown with loyalist killer Billy Wright.

  4. Dr McCrea only shared a platform with Wright because he had been ordered to leave NI by the UVF.

    While I don’t believe that it was a smart move, it wasn’t an endorsement of Wright’s criminal activities.

    Dr McCrea, I am sure, would have no difficulty in stating that the LVF are criminals.

    The same cannot be said for his SF/IRA opponent in S. Antrim and Republican terrorists.

  5. Elk,
    No. Killing a mother of ten for helping a wounded soldier is always a crime. So is planting a bomb at a service to remember those killed in two world wars.

    Wars which were fought, among other things, to give people who put forward views such as yours freedom of speech.

  6. I didn’t need to be patronized. πŸ˜‰ But you hardly expect Mc Laughlin to yield to a political snipe by Mc Crea? Particularly in light of SF’s historical narrative, own supporters and for that matter the failure of the DUP to admit to the wrongs in Unionism’s past as of yet. Any argument over who is worse and therefore guilty is engaging in schematics.

  7. Samuel

    "Dr McCrea only shared a platform with Wright because he had been ordered to leave NI by the UVF."

    I do hope he made a public apology and clarified the situation.

    I meant to ask, where did the "Dr" come from? I thought he was a minister of some sort. Did he make bishop?

    I bought myself a doctorate last year on the Khao San Road in Bangkok. Made to measure, and it cost me about US$15. A lovely job too if you don’t get TOO close. You can tell the guy what you want your doctorate in. I was almost tempted to go down the Gillian McKeith road and ask for Nutrition. I mean, the money she made from that before they reeled her in!

    Anyhow, I kept it simple. The guy asked me if I’d like a professorship. I told him it would look a bit funny as I’m only 25. He said, "No problem, I’ll date it 2010." Now that’s what I call customer service! We could do with some of that over here.

  8. It’s not a political snip.

    It’s a question which gets to the heart of the matter.

    If SF/IRA support the rule of law they will have no problem condemning such a vile act.

    And shame on you for questioning Dr McCrea for asking it.

  9. Must be terrible, Dawkins, making puns that nobody appreciates !

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    There are so many good people within Unionism who could pose a question about law and order with more credibility than someone who has broken the law himself and has provided moral support for some of the worst criminals in Northern Ireland, provided they were on the Unionist side, of course.

  10. "Dr McCrea only shared a platform with Wright because he had been ordered to leave NI by the UVF.

    While I don’t believe that it was a smart move, it wasn’t an endorsement of Wright’s criminal activities."

    You, like McCrea, are an apoligist for terrorists.

  11. Dawkins

    I have to admit although I did realise what you were getting at with your first comment, I sort of un-realised it or de-realised it with subsequent ones. It is an issue of not getting the tome of voice on paper, You should have issued stage directions ;o)

  12. I understood exactly what Dawkins meant in his first comment. Samuel Morrison’s immediate reply showed that he didn’t πŸ˜‰

  13. Aileen,

    My favorite stage direction is:
    >>This they now do.<<
    from:
    "The Album
    of the
    Soundtrack
    of the
    Trailer
    of the
    Film
    of Monty
    Python
    and the
    Holy Grail"

    Which is followed by:
    >>Meanwhile, Harold and Victor Medway III discover a newfound love for each other in a flashback near Devon, where they meet up with Doug and Bob, the Metropolitan policemen who suprisingly turn out to be in this film at all, who kill everyone, and live happily ever after.<<

  14. Dawkins

    McCrea neither apologised for nor clarified his support for Billy Wright.

    When asked about it by a BBC NI reporter, he said that he didn’t have to explain anything to the BBC or anyone else.

    He is famous among the Nationalist community for his (quite right) condemnation of IRA/INLA murders but his silence when it comes to condemning "Loyalist" murders of Catholics.

    I don’t agree with Mitchell McLaughlin – murder is murder, it is never justifiable and should always be condemned by decent people.

    However I’m afraid that, given McCrea’s association with LVF butcher Wright and his frequent failure to condemn "Loyalist" sectarian murders, it’s impossible to see his behaviour as anything other than blatent hypocrisy.

  15. Billy

    Well that’s him scrapped from my voting list. I could never vote for hypocrites and/or those who associate with terrorists.

    Not even if he bought himself a Professorship in Holiness on the Khao San Road.

  16. "I understood exactly what Dawkins meant in his first comment. Samuel Morrison’s immediate reply showed that he didn’t ;)"

    Colm, spot on:)

  17. I particularly liked Billy Connolly as Scalper in "An Everlasting Piece" when he said:
    "Did you ever read Saint Paul’s epistle to the hermaphrodites?"

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