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Roman Catholic Actions:-

  1.  Throughout America, Ireland, Great Britain & Northern Ireland, Germany, Canada, the list of shame goes on and on. After sometimes decades of abuse, the victims finally get enough courage together to hold out their pointed fingers and say, “It was him, or her, in the religious garments, that was the person who did those things to me, who robbed me of my innocence, who robbed me of my childhood.” And how are they answered? Silence, discreet payments, prists and nuns moved from parish to parish, hands raised in horror at the very idea of their ‘faithful’ being responsible for evil deeds. A few, too few, are at last held up before a court, most get away with their crimes! No one is punished, no-one resigns, no-one is excommunicated, no-one takes the blame!
  2. Sister Margaret MacBride was a senior administrator of St. Joseph’s Hospital in Phoenix. She was asked for a decision as a member of the Ethics Committee about agreement for an abortion on a 27 year-old woman suffering from pulmonary hypertension, a condition which could lead to the death of the patient. Sister MacBride agreed, along with her colleagues, that the abortion should proceed. She was immediately excommunicated by the Bishop of Phoenix. 

 

Notwithstanding the knowledge that Sister MacBride went against the normal ruling of her Church in cases such as this, where they expect ‘nature to take its course’, do ATW readers agree that perhaps there is a strong suspicion that there seems to be one rule for pervert priests, and another for nuns who take a decision to help save a woman’s life?

 

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11 thoughts on “In the Name of the Father?

  1. there is a strong suspicion that there seems to be one rule for pervert priest

    The church has clearly decided not to act in a christian way when dealing with pervert priests. It very clearly has acted to prevent the disclosure of details regarding pervert priests. Its management, for lack of a better word, is complicit at all levels in hiding these priests and information relating to the abuse.

    At the same time, they continue to preach church rules to their flock regarding abortion, contraceptives, and other rules regarding how people carry out their lives.

    The surprising thing is how more people dont disassociate them selves from this organisation

  2. I don’t know that any number of the priests / bishops / cardinals even believe in God or in the Christian message with the way they have acted.

    In many countries, over a long period of time.

    It is good that, at long last, this is being looked at with an unblinking eye.

  3. It is good that, at long last, this is being looked at with an unblinking eye.

    I dont agree. Governments are very much threading softly with the church on this matter. The churches are clearly not being forthcoming with information, and They are afraid to raid parish and bishop offices to obtain this information. I believe that we it any other organisation, this would happen.

  4. That is a good point, I regret to say.

    It is good though that the media and those affected and the public in general are no longer afraid of these no good sons of bitches anymore. The fear of ecclesiastical authority is gone, and won’t ever come back.

  5. The fear of ecclesiastical authority is gone, and won’t ever come back.

    Agreed. My own generation, early 30s, by and large want nothing to do with the church.
    My parents generation, late 60s, are gradually walking away.

    There are some that just cannot separate their faith from their church. They cannot seem to appropriate blame to their church ( the ordinary decent priest does not deserve the blame). They believe it to be a media conspiracy.

  6. I absolutely feel for the big majority of religious who devoted their lives to God and to service and who now have to be under a deeply unfair cloud

    Also, the older generation of devout people – there are a number of them left – I don’t know how they can deal with this

    Some of the assaults on the church are probably from bad actors – media types who hate Catholic doctrine, ambulance chasing lawyers in it for a fat payday – but that’s irrelevant. The sin and crime sticks with the individuals who did these deeds and with those who protected them

  7. Mike,

    This is simply par for the course. Most if not all religions were constructs of men living in patriarchal societies. It follows that women would always be in a subordinate position.

    In the words of Borat:

    In Kazakhstan we say…

    1. God

    2. Man

    3. Horse

    4. Dog

    5. Woman

    6. Rat

  8. Except for the fact that it isn’t putting women in a subordinate position. If Father Joe Bloggs had helped a woman procur an abortion then he would have been excommunicated. If Sister Josephine Bloggs had fiddled with a kid then she wouldn’t be excommunicated. The Church has a number of sins that are punishable by excommunication.

    1 – Apostasy and Heresy
    2 – Desecrating the Eucharist
    3 – Assaulting the Pope
    4 – A Priest using confession for selfish reasons
    5 – Ordaining someone without a papal mandate
    6 – Breaking the seal of confession
    7 – Procuring an Abortion
    8 – Intefering with a Papal election
    9 – Helping anyone to do any of the above

    No sins of sexual deviancy of any kind are punishable by excommunication. The almost certainly should but they currently aren’t. What this article is simply showing is that the Church is following Church teachings. Paedophile Priests don’t commit an excommunicatable office but anyone who helps someone gain an Abortion does.

  9. Seamus,

    "Except for the fact that it isn’t putting women in a subordinate position."

    Which would be a first for the Roman Catholic Church.

  10. Well if picking only men was okay for the Son of God then I doubt the Church is going to go against it.

  11. Seamus,

    Who says the "Son of God" picked only men? And why should you believe them?

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