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Just consider this.

A rapist who taunted the mother of his victim over the phone has been jailed for two years after he tried to break into a house just weeks after he was released from a jail term for the sex attack. Michael Quinn (21) was jailed in 2007 for twice raping an 15-year-old English schoolgirl.

Quinn had threatened the girl with a screwdriver and after brutally raping her, took her mobile phone and rang her mother telling her: “I enjoyed raping your girl.” Quinn was handed an eight-year term for the attack but was released in August last year.

First of all, WHY did he get out after less than two years for this horrendous crime. Worse, why has he been sentenced for another two years?

The Judiciary show a total lack of regard for the seriousness of the crime and the utter wickedness of the individual concerned.

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28 thoughts on “WHERE IS THE JUSTICE.

  1. The news tonight mentioned that a parent of one of the friends of the young girl who this animal had raped had been asking why was there nothing more done to rehabilitate this monster. Firstly, I don't think rapists can be rehabilitiated. Secondly, he should have had is testicles removed as part of the process of punishment.

  2. He was released early because young offenders never serve the full sentence. It's wrong in many cases but that's the policy.

    Porkchop – good idea, chemical castration will stop him robbing houses.

    All – look into this young man's history and you'll see exactly where his problems lie.

  3. Phil

    You are all over the place – was he not convicted of rape?

    And perhaps policy should be changed. You supposedly have a voice in how govt works

  4. No phantom he was convicted of a violent and vicious rape but did not serve anything close to the sentence he was given.

    The policy should most certainly be changed. Full term sentences should be the norm for violent and sexual offences.

    But dickheads calling for "chemical castration" do that argument no favours.

    And, I have no hand in setting government policy you sarcastic wanker.

    I just happen to know this young man's background, it's no surprise he's such a savage, to me.

  5. Well aren't we the bitter name calling wee one.

    All citizens ( " the voters " ) are supposed to have a voice in how government works in democracies – via the ballot box

  6. Phil if suggesting chemical castration for vile rapists makes me a dickhead, do us a favour and hold your own counsel, the keyboard hardman routine doesn't suit you !

    Instead of holding your cards to your chest and calling people names because we can't see them, regale us a while…..

  7. I remember that happening. It happened only about 5 minutes walk from my house. Forget chemical castration. Two bricks and a rusty knife.

    "look into this young man's history and you'll see exactly where his problems lie."

    If you excuse my french but bollocks to that. Forget his history. I can understand that a bad background can cause problems with authority, problems with order and rules and can cause people to descend into crime. No background, no extenuating circumstances, no anything, can excuse a violent, evil rapist. The one problem with the Troubles ending is that 20 years ago that wee shit wouldn't have even tried doing that.

  8. The Phantom puts his digit on the real issue:
    All citizens ( " the voters " ) are supposed to have a voice in how government works in democracies – via the ballot box."
    That is how a truly democratic society is supposed to work.
    Unfortunately our UK democracy got hijacked years back when we started having special interest groups and professional lobbyists.

    Theydistort democracy by exerting influence outside of the ballot box, and in effect bypassing the democratic system.
    Most law abiding citizens with some kind of moral compass, will have an agenda. They want to live their lives without fear. They want to be able to walk the streets at any time of the day or night without risk of attack. They want their children to be safe when they go to school. They want their wives and daughters, mothers and grandparents to be secure and treated with respect.
    They want appropriate punishment and imprisonment for those who would harm others. Rehabilitation should not include the exposure of innocent citizens to potentially violent or disturbed individuals.
    It is the government's responsibilty to the citizens, from whom they collect taxes and recruit into the armed services to protect those citizens and allow them to go about their lawful business.
    The special interest groups and lobbyists interfere with this process, and end up fighting for the rights and freedoms of the criminal.

  9. Full term sentences should be the norm for violent and sexual offences.

    No, full term should be the norm for ALL offences. The sentence handed down should be served in full with credit only for time already served on remand. So-called remission for good behaviour in prison should be replaced by additional time for bad behaviour.

    The "two years" this sexual predator has received this time will not be two years, you can guarantee that. And you can also guarantee that he will breech the "strict release conditions" (eg. abstain from alcohol and drugs) within minutes of his release.

  10. For some crimes, the length of sentence may not have to be terribly long either – what's believed to be more important is the certainty of punishment

    For example, car theft seems to not always be punished with a prison sentence over there. If everyone who stole a car got a minimum of three months, that might concentrate the mind excellently.

    Same deal with burglary of a home. That's a serious crime in my books.

    Extremely serious crimes like forcible rape and murder deserve certain, harsh punishment. I don't want to hear about the culprit's tough upbringing. Like my man Jack Maple said the cause of crime is criminals. Act accordingly

  11. >>Like my man Jack Maple said the cause of crime is criminals.<<

    Strange then that Americans seem more inclined to criminality than people of other industrial nations, and even despite those tough laws.

  12. What's the matter Noel afraid of the big bad American,

    That's the thing that cracks me up about all Europeans, you really have no clue what living in a violent society is like.

    Your lack of this understanding and the wishy washy people in our political system along with the MSM portray such a false image.

    That's why our military always wins and always will. That's why we still execute people, that's why we still carry guns.

    Laws don't stop criminals or terrorists, violence and punishment inflicted on the perpetrator greater than what they commit is always the best deterrent and the only answer.

  13. I just want to add some words of wisdom imparted to me by my father.

    "Keep your Wits sharp, Your Heart open, and your Gun loaded"

  14. It's all about MONEY. Government sees it as a waste to spend money on building jails and staffing them. Unfortunately, they see no problem with throwing the money at their constituants in the form of "back-handers" in order to garner VOTES.

    Ergo, the current institutions are overflowing with the scum like Quinn so they get pushed out.

    The answer to both the government's and society's problem with dangerous criminals, plain and simple, is euthanasia.

    If you can't contain it kill it.

  15. >> you really have no clue what living in a violent society is like.<<

    But Phantom said there is no "violent society", only violent criminals, and that was my point.

    >>Laws don't stop criminals or terrorists, violence and punishment inflicted on the perpetrator greater than what they commit is always the best deterrent and the only answer.

    Do you even know what you are talking about? The "violence and punishment inflicted on the perpetrator" is part of the law, isn' it?

  16. "That's the thing that cracks me up about all Europeans, you really have no clue what living in a violent society is like."

    Troll
    30 years of troubles in NI seems to be a fairly good clue of what living in a violent society is like, do you have a clue?

    "That's why our military always wins and always will."

    Vietnam ring a bell? What about the mistake after mistake made in Iraq?

    "Laws don't stop criminals or terrorists, violence and punishment inflicted on the perpetrator greater than what they commit is always the best deterrent and the only answer."

    That sound almost Sharia, are you Islamic Troll?

  17. Noel

    I have frequently said that free and easy gun laws mean more violent deaths and the stats bear me out over many decades

    Troll

    Violence against criminals is not necessarily any answer. Its more often a big part of the problem. The violence that is allowed to exist in prisons – a government controlled environment – is a huge part of the cycle of turning bad criminals into worse ones. And we all " own "that issue because we do nothing about it.

    Certain punishment is an answer. Not violence. Not brutality.

  18. >>I have frequently said that free and easy gun laws mean more violent deaths<<

    Exactly. But before you'd strongly implied that evil people are the sole cause of crime , which may sound good in a speech for arousing a jaded audience (Jack Maple?), but makes no sense unless you assume that Americans by nature tend more to be criminals than other people in the developed nations. And that's of course not true.
    The causes also lie in American society; most of these can't be changed (or at least not easily) but some of them – you mentioned access to guns – can.

  19. The troubles in NI over 30yrs equal one bad summer in any American Major city.

    vietnam 53,000 dead americans over a million dead vietnamese = victory, Iraq a victory, no longer a terror supporting state. Less soldiers killed in the last 3 years than the first 3 months last year in Philly

    Stats prove that the freer the gun carry laws are in an area the less crime there is. That is FACT.

  20. vietnam 53,000 dead americans over a million dead vietnamese = victory

    So the fact that the entire land mass of Vietnam was conquered by the Communists and the Americans were completely expelled is irrelevent ? . It's purely the fact that more Vietnamese died than American soldiers that determins who won the war. I guess that also means the Nazis secured an easy victory in WW2 then.

  21. The Americans weren't expelled we retreated do to political mandate, justas we will in Afghanistan.

    Then Teddy Kennedy cut all supplies to the people we supported and allowed millions of people to die, we never lost a single major battle in vietnam

    As for the Nazi's having an easy victory or victory of anykind I think you need to express that to Generals Montgomery and Patton

    I love when you people can't handle the truth. "you need me on that wall, you wan't me on that wall"

  22. Noel

    The problem in America comes down to bad policies

    Bad gun policy

    Bad drugs policy

    Bad prisons policy ( rampant brutality in prisons and zero emphasis on rehabilitation )

    All these things reinforce one another. We wouldn't be any dumber on all three.

    Jack Maple was the opposite of a cynical guy. He was the theoretician behind the policing change that led to vast, permanent reductions in all categories of crime in NYC. He was the one behind the accomplishments of Bratton and Giuliani. Look it up.

    – – –

    The Brits and Irish have an astonishing burglary rate. You could cut the rate by 75% if you had the will to do it, by adopting NYC policing methods. But you don't so I guess you like having your houses broken into.

    – – –

    Troll

    We did not suffer a military defeat, but we lost the will to fight. And getting the opponent to lose the will to fight is one of the objectives in war. We sure didn't win.

  23. The military never lost the will to fight the Democrat congress betrayed both our military and the Vietnamese people

  24. curious Phantom

    What would be better policies for those three things.

    be careful it's a loaded question

  25. The military had a whole lot of problems in those days. But its irrelevant. Civilians control the military in this country. Not vice versa

    Solutions

    -Guns – implement common sense gun control such as they have in Canada. You know that very similar country right next door with the much lower violent death by gun rate

    – Legalize most drugs, for reasons already stated

    – Eliminate rape and other brutality in prisons by making that a priority – its not any priority now. Teach cooperate prisoners a trade so that they have a shot of going straight.

    This is really easy stuff Troll.

    It won't happen because the American people are illogical and emotional morons on these subjects, and would fall for the first know nothing politician who called these three things being soft on crime, when in reality they are the opposite.

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