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Almost 10 years after 9/11 and a plethora of radical Islamist terror attacks later, the U.S. House of Representatives plans to hold a hearing on the radicalization of American Muslims:

WASHINGTON (AP) — Muslims in the America aren’t cooperating enough with law enforcement to counter the radicalization of young followers by al-Qaeda-linked groups, said a House leader on terrorism issues, renewing debate about religion’s role in motivating extremists and what the United States can do without alienating the Islamic world.

Rep. Peter T. King, New York Republican, who is chairman of the House Homeland Security Committee, asserted that al Qaeda terrorists are targeting Muslim youth in this country, previewing his hearing Thursday on the extent of the problem and the Muslim community’s response.

“The overwhelming majority of Muslims are outstanding Americans, but at this stage in our history there’s an effort … to radicalize elements within the Muslim community,” he said in an interview broadcast Sunday.

“It’s there, and that’s where the threat is coming from at this time,” Mr. King said.”

 

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29 thoughts on “Will Denial Soon Be Just Another River?

  1. Unhelpful grandstanding by King and Company. UK observors should note that King was a vocal apologist for IRA terrorism for years (and even now downplays his past quackery on that issue).

  2. Agree with your second observation Mahons. It is to the shame of the US that for years out of a misguided sentimentality the Irish Americans supported (mainly) the IRA and the “Struggle”.
    I don’t believe for one minute that those folk realised exactly what their dollars were being used for, but as I said earlier the US is pretty ignorant about the rest of the world.

    But back to your comment!
    In times gone past people at war fought battles, marched, fought more battles and at the end of it all either bought new boots in their newly acquired territories, or waited ’til the return march home in defeat…
    What is happening now in the West is an exact repeat of what brought the Roman Empire crashing down.
    We don’t fight our enemies anymore, we issue them with passports and visas, and invite them to locate their own ethnic community in our kind,karing,inklusive demokracies.
    So for any potential enemy they just have to wait ’til their numbers and the conditions are right, and rise up against us…
    THAT’S the worry.

  3. Having Peter King run the committee responsible for counter terrorism is like putting Charlie Sheen in charge of the DEA.

  4. The comparison between the IRA 1969 onwards and Islamic Jihadists is spurious. Both their aims and methods are completely different.

  5. Ross – Line of the day.

    Matt – I would agree that their aims are different (I don’t recall any Islamic Terrorist suggesting that Allah wants a United Ireland), however their methods often strike me as similar.

    Agit8ed – I don’t think the majority of Irish Americans supported the IRA (though a large and vocal minority clearly did). I understand the resentment felt for those who did support their tactics.

  6. “I would agree that their aims are different (I don’t recall any Islamic Terrorist suggesting that Allah wants a United Ireland), however their methods often strike me as similar.”

    Yes, I should have phrased that differently.

  7. Mahons
    “I don’t think the majority of Irish Americans supported the IRA (though a large and vocal minority clearly did).”
    First off I am not Irish and nor am I anti Catholic. You may well be right that not all supported the IRA, but that large and vocal minority helped buy a lot of material for them, and indeed it was obviously worthwhile McGuiness and Adams making the trips over… Even Ted Kennedy got in on the act… 😉

  8. Denial ! River !

    How many more times can that corny old piece of rhetoric be used, no doubt mainly by those who think they are being oh so witty and oh so original with that stupid pun. The next person to utter it is going to get a cyberslap across their smug chops by me 😉

  9. Agit8ed – Oddly enough the Kennedys were not in the IRA support crowd and often got a lot of grief from the pro-IRA lobby.

  10. Mahons,

    Ironically the American supporters of the IRA that I have met, – and that is quite a few over the some twenty odd years that I owned a hotel in Florida, – were not only largely ignorant of the facts of the conflict, but had never visited there, and had generally little contact with anyone who lived there, their sense of history was minimal, their loyalty to the cause seemingly based on some Hollywood, Errol Flynn inspired fantasy.

    Most of those I knew came from the Boston area, and were quite passionate on the matter to the point of weaing the most hideously green coloured suits and hats on St Patrick’s Day.

  11. Ernest – They would have to be ignorant of the facts to excuse the barbarity, and they were plentiful. I refer to the IRA tactics of course. Support for a United Ireland is a different story (as is supporting a just administration of justice in NI).

  12. Colm: my dear boy…you really can be so demanding! You insist on literacy, logic…and now…originality?

    Perhaps you would capture more bees with honey?

    Just the other day I had a wonderful headline – or so I thought: FAT CATS UNITE!

    It melded the anti-capitalist term “fat cat” with a photo of an actual “fat cat!” Michael Moore is not only fat, but he’s a capitalist, to boot — by adding “UNITE” to my headline, I managed to bring in the communist/socialist angle of the news tidbit that I was headlining — “UNITE” being a takeoff on that well-worn Communist slogan: “Workers of the World Unite!” — and despite this delightful display of craft and wit, what was your response? nil.

    Then….soon after my Michael Moore masterpiece, Troll graced his unexpected follow-up Michael Moore post with a headline reading: “Commie Lard Ass!” Commie Lard Ass? This had the effect of making me ponder…. perhaps I waste my time seeking subtlety and nuance?

    At least Agit8d noted that “fat cat” was an echo – a play, if you will – on a prior post. Which is why I bother to type out his handle with that annoying “8” – out of respect for his discerning eye.

  13. My dearest Patty

    Those who use ‘clever’ but grossly overused puns always have an equally ‘clever’ look about them as if they are the cat that got the cream. Too much cream (Capitalist or Communist) makes you a very fat if very contented cat indeed 🙂

  14. Hmmm…I am stymied at your response. Is this some sort of “beat poetry?”

    or do you have some sort of “cream” fetish? Please clarify.

    Perhaps I should add: 😉 so that we clearly understand each other?

  15. In other words, Colm, I’m just kidding around here. Don’t take me too seriously. I liked my headline with “Denial” – complete with image of ostrich and man burying “heads in sand!”

    I don’t know why – but the more cliched, hackneyed – the funnier it is – if I could stick a banana peel in, I would — but if you don’t like it – no worries. 🙂

  16. “beat poetry” ? How very 1950s. I thought that died out when Bob Dylan went Electric or Alan Ginsberg discovered the works of Pam Ayers. 🙂 🙂 🙂

  17. Would this be the ‘independent’ monetary committee for which Gordon Brown received so much praise? The politiicnas handed over what little influence they had to the bankers who create and manipulate the money to their own, and solely their own, benefit.

  18. Allan@Aberdeen –

    I’m sure the man from Goldman Sachs will cast his votes with the interests of the British people in mind.

    Oh yes.

  19. Beat poetry never dies, Colm…. jazz izz….you know….yeah…

    I never heard of Pam Ayers, however. Have i missed something.

    btw, now that I think of it, homegrown radical islamists are old, old news — hackneyed ostrich jokes and cliche headlines are fitting.

  20. Patty

    Shame on you ! Pam Ayers is up there with Shakespeare and Chaucer. Google her. She will change your life 🙂

  21. Pam Ayers! A quick google search did not disappoint. Including a listing of one of her “best” works:

    “Oh, I Wish I’d Looked After Me Teeth”

  22. What exactly does or can a concerned patriot do when faced with such control? The bankers control the money and are moving to control opinion on the internet. Here in this link –

    http://rt.com/programs/keiser-report/episode-124-max-air/

    – is found a report that the US military (owned by Wall Street) is creating virtual people who would flock onto a discussion forum – atangledweb for example – and divert the discussion away from a salient point towards trivia. An example of how this would work is seen above where the need for the military expenditure in the ‘war on terror’ (seen as good) is refuted directly by a link which I posted. The trivia then follows and the key point is left behind. Even though the trivialists seem to be real people, the manner of operation is evident.

  23. Patty

    It’s even better when you hear her saying it in her West country cider guzzling Yokel accent . Spreading the literary merits of Pam Ayers works all the way over to California gives me such cultural pleasure 🙂

  24. Colm,
    I thought it was pretty clever..
    although it took a while before the penny dropped..

    Duhh!

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