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This is what lies in store, when you go into a store;

For a country whose best-known exports include bacon and pastries, it might sound like an act of economic suicide.

But yesterday Denmark became the first country in the world to impose a tax on fatty foods. Any food with a saturated fat content of more than 2.3 per cent will be taxed at a rate of 16 kroner (£1.85) per kilogram of saturated fat. The move will add the equivalent of 25p to a pack of butter and 8p on a pack of crisps. The move will rekindle demands in Britain, which has far higher rates of obesity than Denmark, for a similar tax.

The cry will be that THIS is the way to “save” the NHS. Let’s start the social engineering on food content. Let’s increase the price of the wrong sort of  foods. Let’s increase the price of alcohol. Let’s increase the price of tobacco. I mean it’s not as of there is a recession or anything.

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23 thoughts on “THE FAT TAX…

  1. Take away the bad foods and you won’t actually live any longer…but it’ll sure seem like it!

    Think we need some direct action groups to descend on politicians and give them some ‘words of advice’. But we need a name….

    Sausage Liberation Front anyone? Provisional Bacon Army? Judean Peoples Front…..

  2. Next week we’re all getting measuring tapes with ur news papers to measure our waists and get fit. Seems like a good idea to me, nothing wrong with it. If they can tax booze they can tax fat.

  3. It would be bad enough if they just wanted to take in more money. But claiming they are taking it for our benefit is an arrogance too far.

    How about they hand the revenue from this Fat Tax over to those not overweight? But no, they just want the dosh and are using health as an excuse to take it.

  4. Britains’ obesity has over taken that of the united states. Obesity is a huge problem costing a lot of money, if a fat tax brings in revenue for other purposes then so be it. Infact I’d go so far as to say there ought to be a national diet for countries, in that certain foods are promoted while others are taxed which I see as basically the idea behind this measure.

    It’s down to the individual what they eat and chose to put in their mouth, but at the same time a fat tax would help those grossly over weight to chose correct foods.

    Everybody is struggling to keep the pounds off, and if this helps the situation I’m all for it.

  5. Ah! – back to the good ‘ole days of WWII, when we had rationing c/w ration books and shortages of most things. To be fat, or even mildly obese in those days was to be seen as ‘fat and lazy’, – and there is no denying the truth of that.

    Also back in ‘those days’ we only had one set of fascists to deal with. Did we really fight that war to bring freedom, progress and an improvement in our living standards? – little did we know, or foresee the day would come when once having achieved those goals, we would have them used to blackmail us into paying ever more tax, with the pathetic excuse that it ‘was for our own good’.

    Coincidentally I read an article in a similsr vein yesterday, that the long held virtue of having savings was hindering ‘global recovery’ from the recession, and that we, – that is those of us who have a small nest-egg, were being very selfish in not going out and spend, spend, spending, – all so that manufacturing could achieve ‘growth’, and coincidentally, that govenments would then have more to spend on useless ideas and be even more generous to third world dictators, – all in a good cause, – of course!

    It seems we really have been following ‘carrots on a stick’, and all the promises of ‘jam tomorrow’ were really just a dream to be chased, but never to be achieved…it used to be all bread and circuses, today it is all XFactor and greasy chips and burgers! – or is it now all curry?

  6. Gramsci did say the people will come to love their slavery.

    kateyo –

    Putting aside that what we eat is not the business of the state, certain foods are promoted (and subsidised) while others are taxed. This is why there’s great corruption in agriculture and the food industry already.

    Also you and the vested interests are wrong. Saturated fats do not make you fat. In fact they are good for you and necessary.

    Breads, pastas and the rest of that carbohydrate junk makes you fat but they are often subsidised and virtually force fed by propaganda to the masses. If you want to end up fat and ill then eat what the government says you should eat.

  7. All the Brits have to do to reduce a large portion of the population to raving anorexics is make the ONLY legal meat PORK.

    That’ll reduce the Jews and Muslims.

    Then, ban all alcohol products.

    That turn the rest of the remaining population into dehydrated, skeletons suffering from severe Delirium tremens.

  8. In fact they are good for you and necessary.

    Really?

    A big mac and fries amounts to more than 50% of the required daily calory intake for an adult, never mind the cholesterol.

  9. Peter –

    A nig mac and fries contains alot of processed crap too, some of which the state subsidises.

  10. yeah I agree its the processed stuff that does the damage and the rule of thumb is to go for whole foods – also people now don’t cook any more, meals are bought in shops and heated through.

    To be fat, or even mildly obese in those days was to be seen as ‘fat and lazy’

    Thats true people were seen that way, but sometimes its not over eating that makes one fat, there are certain medicines that can create problems with weight also. That happened to my neice, she gained weight after taking certain medications.

    little did we know, or foresee the day would come when once having achieved those goals, we would have them used to blackmail us into paying ever more tax, with the pathetic excuse that it ‘was for our own good’.

    How much tax did you pay back then and weren’t living standards much lower, now you pay the extra and living standards are higher, if you want to equate tax with living standards that is. You can’t have your cake and eat it. If you want the benefits of higher living standards they have to be paid for.

  11. We demand the force feeding of you skinnies. The banning of the word ample. and removal of such racist signs as ‘Maximum load ten persons’.

    What do we want! Lard sandwiches made with pop tarts!

    Honestly you can’t take a state dictating what when and how much you eat without laughing at the neo facist overtones can you. Nanny state says it’s good for you boy’s now do as your told. To which as a free born human being I can only respond ‘up yours state busybodies’. Go spend a tenth of your energy fixing the deficit and leave us the hell alone.
    One more set of ‘laws’ that I will absolutely be breaking at all and every opportunity.

  12. One more set of ‘laws’ that I will absolutely be breaking at all and every opportunity.

    like smoking I can applaud you until it costs money when you need health care and its up to everybody else to pay for it. Under a NHS system there is an obligation on people to be as healthy as is possible when someone else is picking up the tab.

    Pay for your own private health care then do what you like…

  13. In 2009, smoking cost the NHS 5 billion pounds and excise duty plus VAT on tobacco products raised 10 billion for the exchequer.

    Do the math!

    Smokers are subsidizing you!

  14. OK lets talk figures – nail a few delicious canards.

    22% of the UK is Obese yet they only use 4% of the NHS services.

    We use proportionately LESS NHS budgets than you so called norms.

    If anything you sick skinnies OWE us a REBATE! Now get back to your salads.

    Done and double done.

    First they came for the smokers but I did nothing because I did not smoke.
    Then they cam for the social drinkers but I did nothing for I only drank occasionally,
    then they came for the obvious symbol of chritianity wearers but I did nothing for I was agnostic.
    Then they came for the over eaters and there was no one left to do anything for me.

    Divide and rule – tax and spend. Scapegoat one section of society…demonise bankers etc etc.

    and you lot fall for it EVERY TIME!

    Jeez.

  15. OK lets talk figures – nail a few delicious canards.

    Let’s.
    The increasing prevalence of overweight and obesity predicted by the model is projected to add £5.5 billion (at current prices) to the annual total cost of the NHS by 2050. Factoring in the estimate that currently £4.2 billion of the £17.4 billion is attributable to overweight and obesity, the total attributable to overweight and obesity by 2050 is £9.7 billion.

    http://www.bis.gov.uk/assets/bispartners/foresight/docs/obesity/17.pdf

    In other words this is expenditure over and above that which a non-obese group would require. We are paying for your gluttony. Perhaps it is only fair that gluttons should be made to contribute for the additional expense they cause.

  16. Private health insurers in the US always charge more to tobacco users ( and should )

    Private or government insurers should absolutely have the right to charge the obese more. It would focus the mind excellently.

  17. and Geoff that 9.7 Billion is as a percentage of the total 2050 NHS budget? Far far less than 22% – why would that be? Because we die sooner and cost less than you skinny lot who linger on and cost the NHS billions.

    Point still stands proportionately you owe us a rebate.
    Pay up skinny.

  18. Nice try fatty – but it is expenditure over and above not instead of. So fatties have the full panoply of illnesses that skinny people have, but in addition they incur additional costs.

  19. Geoff Watts –

    You are not paying for someone else’s gluttony. You are being looted by a third party which pays for it.

    You can’t have it both ways. You cannot argue in favour of socialist health rationing and the socialising of costs which come with it and then argue that others must moderate their habits because the cost of treating them is carried by everyone else.

    If you want universal state health cover then fine, just shut up and pay for it.

  20. You can’t have it both ways. You cannot argue in favour of socialist health rationing and the socialising of costs which come with it and then argue that others must moderate their habits because the cost of treating them is carried by everyone else.

    Of course you can. This isn’t being charged on the health costs it is being levied on the goods; in other words it is exactly the same as alcohol and tobacco – using price as a disincentive.
    We don’t charge smokers more money for their health care, we don’t charge alcoholics more, we don’t charge fatties more; health is free at the point of delivery.

  21. health is free at the point of delivery.

    But I wouldn’t see a thing in the world wrong with charging smokers / heavy drinkers / drug users / the obese more.

    That would be exactly the type of market based reform that could start to helps change behavior and make the system more solvent.

  22. Why do I get the feeling that those complaining about this proposed tax are, erm, overweight? 🙂

    The Danes have it about right. Here in the UK obesity has become the norm. It’s tragic. Anything that will help people return to a healthy size is to be welcomed.

    (And I’m damned if I wish my taxes to be used to supply gastric bands to feckless fatties.)

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