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Contemplating the Republican Presidential Candidates as the field whittles away I thought one bright spot for them may be the Vice Presidential selections.  Hypothetical of course, but a filed of candidates for that office that may actually be more appealing to the average American than the gang that couldn’t talk straight.  I mean if you are Republican and you are limited to a Perry or Romney selection, wouldn’t it be nice to consider the second string, the junior varsity, the understudies who may actually be more appealling to conservatives and independents and Democrats.

Senator Marc Rubino of Florida, Congressman Paul Ryan, South Carolina’s Nikki Haley, Mitch Daniels of Indiana, Bobby Jindal of Louisiana, Chris Christie of New Jersey and former Minnesota Governor Tom Pawlenty and a few others constitute the wingmen (and wingwoman) who might help balance the ticket and generate sufficinet reason to vote Republican in 2012.  Of course, their contribution depends on the nominee.  Romney will need a conservative and a Protestant running mate.  Probably a Southern or Western politician to boot.  Perry would need a moderate, probably outside of the deep South, but if he won he would have more room to select an unconventional choice.  Some of the potential Vice Presidential running mates are already begging off, Rubino being the most vocale, but despite the nature of the office it is a hard one to say no to if it is actually offered, seeing how it can be a stepping stone to the Presidency. 

Think about it.  The Democrats are.  Which one of the above wouldn’t be an electoral  improvement over Palin? or Cheney?  And can anyone tell me which one wouldn’t be an ultimate improvement over Biden?

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50 thoughts on “The Second String – Republican Understudies

  1. As I political geek I enjoy this speculation.

    Marco Rubio- has ruled himself out.
    Nikki Haley- Impressive and balances Romney, but only been in office a year or so.
    Mitch Daniels- If he didn’t want to run for President would that also stop him running for VP?
    Tim Pawlenty- Boring but safe.
    Bobby Jindal- Very sharp although weird religious experiences with exorcisms could put voters off.
    Paul Ryan- Whilst necessary, his position on entitlement reform is political cyanide. he would cost his running mate the race.

    I think Romney will win the nomination and agree that he needs someone not from the North East. Top 3 picks for Romney would be:

    1- Governor Bob McDonnell of Virgina seems like a very good fit electorally.
    2- Senator Rob Portman of Ohio seems like a good potential VP for any of the candidates. Very experienced in public life before being a senator. Ohio is a swing state.
    3- Mike Huckabee- they didn’t get on in 2008 but seem friendlier now and Huckabee is likable and a good campaigner.

    For Perry, I’d go for a Huntsman/Daniels type.

  2. Ross – your suggestions 1-3 are interesting. Would Huckabee give up his paydays for VP? Rubio’s saying he won’t accept VP so loudly makes me think he is jockeying for the position.

  3. Once officially rejected by Republican primary voters Paul will continue to run a vanity campaign as a third-party candidate which greatly limits the available VP candidates who would be willing to run with him.

  4. Bob McDonnell and Nikki Haley are still in their first term as governors. It is very bad for the country to consider green candidates such as this for the Presidency or even the VP job.

    A VP has to be able to assume the most important job in the world at short notice.

    That’s why you should not consider relatively inexperienced folks such as these or manifestly unqualified people such as the Biden/Palin choice from last year.

    I agree that a candidate Romney would for balance reasons want someone from the South / Southwest. I’d think that there would be some top folks there who should be thought of. Huckabee absolutely should be in the conversation.

  5. They’re all people who would not end the Fed i.e. they’re all Establishment-owned.

  6. There are very few in the population / public life who get worked up over the Federal Reserve.

  7. In fact who is more establishment (when in suits him) than Ron Paul. In Congress taking a federal paycheck for years, running (once again) in the mainstream party.

  8. Ross –

    To my mind Rand Paul would be a better pick than most.

    Of course, the statist mind will say he only entered Congress in November last year, he’s not an insider, he’s not an old Beltway hand and all that.

    Well true, and that’s one reason why he’d be a better pick than most.

  9. He has no experience, is the son of a career politician and doesn’t know anything.

    He’s perfect.

  10. As the son of a career congressman, it would be really hard to spin this guy as an outsider.

  11. Phantom –

    There are very few in the population / public life who get worked up over the Federal Reserve.

    Which is just how they like it.

    The “Federal” Reserve (there’s nothing “federal” about it) has operated sub rosa since 1913, inflating and stealing the wealth of the people with few onlookers.

    Fortunately one of those onlookers was Murray Rothbard, a man of liberty and one of the truly great and inspirational Americans.

    But that’s all changed now. Ron Paul – a Rothbardian scholar – has single handedly dragged the “Federal” Reserve into the light of scrutiny so much so that Gingrich and Bachmann have copied him and MSM commentators now talk about it.

    This is the age of Ron Paul, as Juan Williams said. He is setting shaping the language, choosing the field of battle.

  12. Bob McDonnell and Nikki Haley are still in their first term as governors. It is very bad for the country to consider green candidates such as this for the Presidency or even the VP job.

    You’re right, I had thought McDonnell took office in 2008, which would have given him a whole term of office by the time of election (same as Mitt & Virginia governors are limited to 1 term).

    I agree that a candidate Romney would for balance reasons want someone from the South / Southwest. I’d think that there would be some top folks there who should be thought of. Huckabee absolutely should be in the conversation.

    Romney has a problem in the south but the West is Mormonland, two of the three swing states in the West- Colorado & Nevada- border Utah.

  13. As goes Ron Paul so goes…Michele Bachman and Newt Gingrich. Probably Percentage of Republican Primary Delegates for all 3 COMBINED by the time of the convention I will say about 5%. If nothing else goes wrong for them.

    The Federal Reserve has been a target of guys like Ron Paul way before he took it up as a recurring theme.

  14. I don’t think abolishing the Federal Reserve is a terrible idea, but the obsession with it is off putting and you need to have a plan B in case (as is likely) it isn’t abolished.

  15. Ross

    How about Haley Barbour?

    Good governor, from a deep South state, knows how to run things.

    Maybe he could be convinced.

    He can be to Romney as LBJ was to John Kennedy.

  16. Rand Paul has hasn’t been a Senator for a full year, he has no other experience in Government or comparable posisiton that I am aware of, and is manifestly unprepared for the Presidency. Even his old man might acknowledge that.

  17. Whatever dweebs,
    Who cares! If they’re all part of the same problem their names are irrelevant.

  18. Guys like Romney are part of the solution.

    He could be just what the doctor ordered.

    After 12 years in the desert, how about someone who’s actually competent?

  19. The “Federal” Reserve (there’s nothing “federal” about it) has operated sub rosa since 1913, inflating and stealing the wealth of the people with few onlookers.

    And we are so much worse off now than we were in 1913.

  20. Phantom,
    it comes down to this.
    If you are going to vote for more of the same old,
    you are going to get more of the same old…
    The current system IS the problem, and you can draw as many pretty pictures around the candidates as you like: they remain part of the apparatus that causes the problem in the first place.

  21. To be coldly analytical, Obama will get vast majorities of the black vote no matter what he does. Their votes are not up for competition.

    And I don’t see Barbour as any kind of racial bad guy, and I bet most others will give him a fair shot.

    A Massachusetts – Mississippi alliance. You win all the Southern states, including Virginia and North Carolina, which went to Obama in the 2008 freak election, and pick up a number of northern and western states too.

    That’s a winner.

  22. Ross- Barbour did make a couple stupid comments, but his role would be geared towards shoring up Romney among Southern Republicans and the more right-leaning side of the party, neither of which would be overly concerned with those comments. But you are right those comments would not be in the plus ledger.

  23. Obama will win the black vote, but being perceived as racist (however unfairly) is damaging among white voters too- which is why “racist” gets thown about so readily.

  24. Ross- I agree that racist is thrown around too much. But in addtion to those who throw it around in support there are those who throw it around in opposition to him – ie “if you oppose Obama you must be a racist” which draws a resentment vote agaisnt him.

    I don’t see barbour as a racist, though as I said he made some really stupid comments that I think he has subsequently and sincerely backed away from.

  25. Wasn’t there talk at one time of Oprah Winfrey running for VP?

    That would surely set the black cat among the pigeons.

  26. Phantom,

    “To be coldly analytical, Obama will get vast majorities of the black vote no matter what he does. Their votes are not up for competition.”

    So tacitly you acknowledge that black people will vote for black people no matter what?
    Their politics dont’t count for nothin’ as long as they is black?
    Hypothetically then, WHO discovered the world? Who made all the significant scientific sociological discoveries that brought the modern liberal states into being?
    Wus they White or was they Black?
    Why beat youself up tryng to find a Black race that did something meaningful and beneficial to the whole human race??

  27. Tsk, tsk, Stormfront has got itself some serious competition….

    Hypothetically then, when was the world covered?

  28. Agit8ed – The black vote in this country has been historically aligned with the Democratic Party for decades. As a minority by voting in a block their vote resonates more than if they were split. This has not always been a good thing as the Republicans often dismiss their vote and the Democrats often take it for granted. Although in a perfect world people should vote for the best candidate and not let race be a factor, we don’t live in a perfect world.

    In the case of the President I think the mixture of historic pride probably adds to the built-in inclination to vote for a Democrat. Add to that they (rightly or wrongly) view the Republican Party as antagonistic or at least disinterested in them and you create the high numbers that the President will receive.

  29. Agit

    I’ll not respond to some of what you say, but let’s just say that you could run the Grand Kleagle of the Ku Klux Klan in his white robes as a Democrat, and he’d capture the black vote.

  30. Mahons,
    IF a black man or woman has the same aspirations I have, and would join up to fight a war because he believes it is righteous in the same w

  31. Mahons,
    IF a black man or woman has the same aspirations I have, and would join up to fight a war because he believes it is righteous in the same way I believe itr to be righteous, then he is my equal.
    Does it mean I have to start eating “soul food

  32. ) whatever that means, or dreadlocking my hair..
    NO! I respect his way of life, as long as he respects mine.
    Slavery was wrong UHMM Kay, but I’m not going to spend the rest of my days beating myself up about it.
    (Apologies for the disjointedness..)
    I’m old and I’m tired.
    Goodnight.

  33. Agit8ed – I would think that they would be your equal even if they don’t share your aspirations. As for eatign soul food, I recommend it.

  34. What the hell is soul food?
    Does it have the same affect on Irish-American white boys,
    or is you being conned?
    Is a white rapist paedophilic Republican my equal in the same way a black rapist Paedophilic Democrat is???
    Wise up Mahons.
    This world is full of differences.
    Evolution couldn’t work otherwise…..

  35. There you go!
    I press all the right buttons
    and I get all the predictable responses.
    Shame.

  36. Now I lay me down to sleep,
    I pray the Lord my soul to keep,
    If I shall die before I wake,
    I pray the Lord my soul to take.

  37. jerry lewis would be better thaan Biden.

    Mahons your list except for Rubio, and it is Rubio NOT Rubino reads just like one of your Presidential lists.

    In other words a joke. I love it when liberals (who always know best) tell republicans who the best choice is.

    Lets look at your choice Barack Obama, so far he has pushed us into a depression greater than the one just before WWII, and he has sold guns illegally to drug dealers and is responsible for the death of at least two police officers.

    No I think the nation will pass on any of your sides choices

  38. Troll

    When you say things that are totally untrue, you don’t attract people to your side.

    This economy stinks, but it isn’t remotely close to what people went though in the thirties.

    A jobless recovery is not a depression.

  39. Troll – you are welcome to suggest VP candidates if you can figure out who they might be. I would think you would want to lay low given your past predictions, but some people embrace failure.

  40. Phantom according to all numbers inflation, home repossessions, and jobless numbers this “jobless recovery” is worse than the great depression. Do your homework for once instead of your own head and emotions and you’ll find that I am far from being the only one to point this out.

    The only reason we don’t have bread lines is they didn’t have unemployment payments during the great depression, we do. We are in a depression and denile is not a river in egypt.

    Mahons I’m still waiting who we will be stuck with thanks to the primary fiasco as a main candidate before I even think about vice.

    and unlike others I care not of vringing people to my side nor do I worry because I believed even a traitor would have beaten a marxist last election,

  41. Troll

    The US population in 1935 was 135,000,000. The population now is about 300,000,000.

    Comparing a gross number of repossessions between 1935 and today would be meaningless.

    Show me your numbers – is that what you are trying to do? Or are you comparing the rate of repossessions, which is the only way to produce a meaningful statistic. Again, show me your work, or else be quiet.

    The rate of inflation is relatively low now, and during the Great Depression we had deflation. Did you know that? Do you want deflation now?

    Depressions and recessions are measures of economic growth in a country. It has nothing to do with high unemployment and high rates of home repossessions, bad as those things are.

    And since we have had slow growth in the US, we are noy in either a recession or a depression.

    You don’t have the slightest idea what you’re talking about. You may want to do more reading, and less writing. And reading from Republican talking points blogs doesn’t count.

  42. do your own homework, Ive down mine, you amaze me you don’t do the research yet you demand your right and everyone else must prove the things that you say wrong.

    When I counseled drug addicts they would always quote shit they new was true, the question I always asked is whats your source of in formation.

  43. Troll raises the white flag, but can’t stop barking bullshit.

    See chart

    Economic tip to Troll – when the bar graph is on the north side of zero, we’re not in a depression or recession.

    This Bush / Obama economy is very bad, but it is an insult to thinking people to say that it in any way compares to the depression.

    And yes, the fact that there are safety nets ( FDIC, Unemployment Insurance ) has helped the slide from being worse. But if the Republican / Tea Party / Libertarian phonies and frauds had their way, we’d get rid of all that and we would have a depression for real.

    No thanks.

  44. “Wow”
    What “Wow” Phantom??

    (sorry peeps,I’ve been away on business)

    Context is all.
    What I was saying is that having lots of ethnics living in my country is not the same as having lots of ethnics who are disillusioned with their country/religion/ lifestyle that they have decided the Capitalist/Socialist/Liberal Democratic/Post Christian countries offer them more than their homeland. (e.g. the Irish, Scots, Welsh, Dutch etc.,)

    So what I was trying to point out is that because an immigrant is living in MY country does not mean he/she has the same commitment and loyalty as I repeat I, have.
    Unless he/she is willing to risk their life in defence of their new homeland as I as a NATIVE born citizen should have.

    If you believe we should accept anyone as a citizen on the basis that they tell you they were being persecuted or /misunderstood/gay/transvestite/terrorist in their homeland,
    you are STUPID!
    Which is why I said that

    “IF a black man or woman has the same aspirations I have, and would join up to fight a war because he believes it is righteous in the same way I believe it to be righteous, then he is my equal.”
    As a citizen.

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