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Renowned geo-political commentator Mike Tyson has weighed in on the Zimmerman case;

“It’s a disgrace that man hasn’t been dragged out of his house and tied to a car and taken away. That’s the only kind of retribution that people like that understand. It’s a disgrace that man hasn’t been shot yet. Forget about him being arrested–the fact that he hasn’t been shot yet is a disgrace. That’s how I feel personally about it.”

Fair minded, reasoned, considered. Just some of the words one does not use when discussing the opinions of the former Heavyweight Boxing champion. Also, isn’t the above commentary verging on incitement to violence?

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61 thoughts on “TYSON PROVIDES INSIGHT

  1. Yes, so did the British Army in Ballymurphy in 1971 & Derry in 1972 etc. Under due process?

  2. “It’s a disgrace that man hasn’t been dragged out of his house and tied to a car and taken away. That’s the only kind of retribution that people like that understand.

    … whereas rapists deserve complete rehabilitation.

  3. Tyson is just another rightwing hatemongering Romney supporter, next thing he’ll do his prevent his wife from working, make her stay barefooy pregnant and in the kitchen… Right Mahons?

  4. What with the government media desperately trying to spark a race war, the race baiters trying to spark race war (I see Eric Holder was kissing Sharpton’s arse this week), Obama’s old chums the New Black Panthers putting a price on Zimmerman’s head and talking of “the things that’s about to happen, to these honkies, these crackers, these pigs, these pink people. It has been long overdue.”

    What with all that it’s a veritable tidal wave of civil discourse from that side! I remember not only how deceitful was the Left’s propaganda campaign to blame Sarah Palin for a shooting which turned out to be perpetrated by a Democrat, I recall how total and fierce that propaganda was and how high that Leftist moral horse pranced.

    Well, right back atcha commies.

    You’re silent now, but you’re still out there, still hanging around like a bad Left Wing smell. Be honest, be a man for once (you’re allowed to ask a conservative what that means), come in here and apologise for the stink you created then and your silence now.

    And no, it’s not waaaaycist to criticise blacks who call for murder.

  5. The old propaganda trick yet again. Find an extremist lunatic on “the other side” and use he / she to smear all of them.

    The Rightworld sub-text here (yet again) is that Zimmerman is innocent and consequently Trayvon was the real perp who was asking for what he got. Limbaa has come very close to saying this openly, but the majority of Rightworld are tending to this view, as we have seen hereabouts.

  6. You seem to have your mind made up on this

    There are many saying what Tyson said. I’ve overheard such comments on the street.

  7. Peter, Colm –

    I recall that you two mounted that high moral horse to damn the Right when a Democrat shot up a group of people in Arizona. I recall that you pointed at the Right also when Breivik murdered a load of people in Norway.

    Colm particularly enjoyed being superior.

    So come big boys, you can point at the Left and the Dems and their black nationalist pals now. You can comment in the way that you’d comment if, say, Sarah Palin called for a private citizen to be murdered (not that she’d do such a thing). You can demonstrate your intellectual honesty and dispel the suspicion that you’re just a pair of show ponies who can’t resist a jab at people they don’t like.

  8. Phantom

    An apparently teenager was shot dead by a vigilante who seems to have been an obsessive on a mission. If the teenager had been white and the shooter had been black, can you imagine Rightworld rushing to the defence of the shooter and smearing the victim? I just can’t imagine that Fox-Limbaa (and some hereabouts) would have reacted in anything like the same way as they have in this case.

  9. What with the government media desperately trying to spark a race war

    Truly pathetic Pete. I won’t be debating with you on this, say whatever the **** you like.

  10. I don’t really know much about what Limbaugh has been saying.

    It seems that Fox is playing it straight when I’ve seen them.

    I don’t know what happened.

    I do hear a great deal of overt incitement to murder or to condemn Zimmerman based on the incomplete picture that we now have, and it is not Fox who is doing it.

  11. It’s a dark night in an enclosed private space – a gated community, – not a public place.

    There have been several breakins and such like in the area, which is why there is a community patrol. You come across a stranger in a secluded area, with his hoody up over his head, – would you not be at least a bit suspicious, especialy when he runs when challenged.

  12. Peter –

    I didn’t ask for a debate with you, I was interested in whether or not you’d condemn calls for a private citizen to be murdered.

    You decline the opportunity to do so.

    Given your oft-repeated calls for civil discourse in the past it does seem like you (and Colm and Mahons and Pinky and others) are going AWOL on purpose.

  13. I was interested in whether or not you’d condemn calls for a private citizen to be murdered.

    I’m insulted that you choose to ask that question. Get stuffed.

  14. Hah!

    Oh get over yourself you precious darling. Of course you’re not insulted. You’re embarrassed that in the rush to pin something else on the Right you entirely forgot that you’ve been hoist on your own Leftist panty-girdle.

    I won’t push it, don’t worry, but let’s have a bit less of the Puritan finger-waving in future.

  15. You need to get over yourself Pete. Your comments on this thread could easily have come from a BNP supporter with the usual racist baggage. Which I know you don’t have attached to your Rightist knickers.

    I had already commented that Tyson was a jerk, so you were well out of order. I won’t push it, but less of the smearing would be in order.

  16. Pete

    Can you prove that I blamed Sarah Palin or joined in the anti-Right witch hunts over the Arizona shootings or the Breivik ones ?

  17. Tyson is a loudmouth lunatic. And he is a convicted violent felon. He is such a circus sideshow act that it would be laughable except that Zimmerman (whatever his faults may or may not be) is probably in danger of some crazy trying to get him. Tyson should be locked up.

  18. There is a national climate of hate against Zimmerman in much of black America.

    And Fox didn’t create that climate. The Reverends did.

  19. There is a national climate of hate against Zimmerman in much of black America.

    And this is surprising? A black kid with candy in his pocket was shot dead by a white vigilante as he headed home. And the police decided to do **** all about it, the shooter’s story was accepted without any investigation. If the races had been reversed, would the police have reacted in this way?

  20. Yes, it is surprising.

    Should ” white America ” get ginned up and speak of murder and violence every time a white is killed by a black?

    Have a little proportion.

    Esp since we do NOT know what happened.

  21. The failure to prosecute Zimmerman was wrong. The family’s campaign for their son’s killing not to be just dismissed and forgotten about was perfectly correct and justified. The subsequent hero/villain hype and whipping up of stereotyped positions around this case from Right and Left is wrong.

  22. As Colm said, an arrest and it appears a prosecution are warranted. But not a railroading and certainly there is no justification for calls for Zimmerman’s head.

    He may very well walk, the Stand Your Ground Statute may let him. And if he does people will have to accept the verdict.

  23. I haven’t heard all the police reports

    I am not sure he should be prosecuted – esp considering the idiotic gun laws and other laws in Florida.

    Zimmerman may be more incompetent than he was bad. Or he could have been attacked by a young man who didn’t like being followed, which would put a new spin on things.

  24. Colm –

    “Can you prove that I blamed Sarah Palin or joined in the anti-Right witch hunts over the Arizona shootings or the Breivik ones ?”

    Well, you did join in ‘the antiRight witch hunt’ after the Breivik attack. Your chief contribution, however, was to wring your hands and tut at anyone on the Right who defended the Right against attacks from the Left. The Left is allowed to attack opportunistically (as if it has anything else) while the Right is supposed to take it.

  25. Phantom

    Youi miss the point, not like you.

    What caused the outrage in the black community was not so much the shooting but the total failure of the local police to do their job, and well-founded suspicion that their reaction was fundamentaly dictated by racism. If Zimmerman had been arrested and questioned on suspicion of murder there would have been no campaign. Instead, he was home free if it hadn’t been for the “agitation”.

    If Zimmeramn had been black and Trayvon white, do you not agree that it’s impossible to imagine the local police reacting in the same way?

  26. Mahons –

    *Sigh*

    I’m not into searching the archives to back up my point. Since I am honest and my memory is good, I reasonably expect my word to be accepted. However, when forced, Pete can.

  27. Peter –

    “What caused the outrage in the black community was not so much the shooting but the total failure of the local police to do their job ..”

    So Zimmerman should be murdered because of that (misguided) view?

    So The Kenyan’s old pals can talk of “the things that’s about to happen, to these honkies, these crackers, these pigs, these pink people” – ?

  28. Peter

    I largely agree with what you say – but this has gone to a fairly widespread call for Zimmerman to be murdered.

    I have overheard in my streets talk of riots.

    And if Zimmerman is not convicted, that is a real possibility.

    So the way to protest the lack of justice is to demand that this Gomer Pyle guy be lynched.

    This climate of wild hatred has been caused by the Reverends and by media such as NBC which very intentionally distorted Zimmerman’s words on tape to make them sound worse, out of context.

  29. No Pete that doesn’t prove what you claim. I do not and never have believed in censorship or blaming other people’s words for some individuals actions. If I think someone has said something shamefull I will castigate them for it, but I would never insist they be prosecuted or banned from saying it. If you go back to the Arizona case you will find that I actually made a point of saying that the blaming of Sarah Palin was wrong over the ‘crosshairs’ business, and on the Brevik incident my main beef with you was about your comment over the ‘sinister political camp’ which was your FIRST reaction to the mass murder which I considered to be shamefull and heartless. Expressing strong opposition to what someone has said is not the same thing as demanding a censorious culture which I never would support.

  30. Sigh

    Pete Moore

    Did you bother to read my earlier comments? If not, the hundreds of comments I have posted here over the years should indicate that I support the rule of law, with all its warts. More than you do in fact, as indicated by your frequent preaching of tax theft and lynching of “traitor” politicians. Or is this just Rightist rhetoric?

    And as to “the Kenyan”, this is beneath contempt and not worth a response.

  31. Peter

    Pete doesn’t support the rule of law. His proud refusal to pay for a TV licence, while freeloading BBC programmes paid for by law abiding pensioners much less well off than him proves that. 😉

  32. Colm –

    “and on the Brevik incident my main beef with you was about your comment over the ‘sinister political camp’ which was your FIRST reaction to the mass murder which I considered to be shamefull and heartless.”

    Yes, your prissy preaching was annoying.

  33. Peter –

    What earlier comments of yours?

    Your first comment on this thread was at 7.19pm and the rest followed in the same vein.

    If you’re suggesting that you have condemned the Dem/media/black power campaign to have honkies murdered and to ignite race war in the US then, I have to admit, they passed me by.

  34. Colm –

    I support the rule of law as free Englishmen once understood the idea, not the arbitrary rule of despotic government.

  35. another way of saying you will pick and choose support the laws that you approve of and that match your ideological position.

  36. Pete Moore

    I posted “Find an extremist lunatic on “the other side” and use he / she to smear all of them.”

    Sorry, was that not clear enough for you to suggest that I totally condemned Tyson’s comments? Anyway for the record: I am 100% opposed to extra-judicial murder, and all calls for same, from any source at any time. And no doubt you can say the same?

    If this is not clear enough for you, please advise, but I’m not sure if I can help further with your apparent comprehension problem.

  37. hey Peter the week before this incident, a thirteen year old white boy was dosed in gasoline and lit on fire while the perps chanted burn whitey burn. http://articles.nydailynews.com/2012-03-04/news/31122324_1_white-boy-fire-tv-station

    Where was the President saying he could have been my son? He is half white. Where was the outrage in Congress? Where was the outrage in the press?

    You keep trying to paint this case as a rightwing racist propaganda event, when the facts have been clearly the opposite. The democrats, the president and the black community have clearly been trying to spark a race war over an incident that no one has the full details of whether or not this Latino was defending himself or acting out of malice.

    On every topic that you have made your mind up about whether this or cowfarts cooking the atmosphere you are hostile and belligerent. Maybe it’s cause your just a narrow minded ass, rather than ever being right about anything.

  38. Troll and Pete Moore

    I thought you guys were all for the rule of law? But you both failed to condemn the local police in this case when they failed to do thir job. Instead you attacked (and continue to attack) Obama and anyone else who critised the total lack of police action.

    You guys are on the side of the racist police here, get over it and admit it.

  39. On every topic that you have made your mind up about whether this or cowfarts cooking the atmosphere you are hostile and belligerent. Maybe it’s cause your just a narrow minded ass, rather than ever being right about anything.

    Yeah, you’re right Troll. It’s lucky that you show me the error of my ways in a totally non-belligerent, narrow-minded asshole, non-jerk, non GOP-hack, non-bigoted way, given that you are 100% right about everything and I’m obviously 100% wrong and there is no room for debate, but plenty of room for name-calling, such as “narrow minded ass”.

    Great debating as always, and **** off, you ignorant, bigoted jerk.

  40. Peter –

    If you check the record you’ll see that people like me pointed out that an investigation was ongoing and that it was best to be cool until the outcome.

    This “total lack of police action” you continually cite has led to a charge of second-degree murder. You did notice that, yes?

    And your 7.19pm: is that an attack on the Dems/Left/black poer lot calling for murder?!

  41. Pete

    The investigation was not ongoing. It had been concluded by the local police, with little media fuss or wider publicity. It was only when his family publicly protested and succeeded in bringing attention to a wider audience that higher law authorities stepped in and rekindled the case.

  42. Pete Moore

    You are on record here as condemning “the agitation” after the local police had closed their file. As you well know, Zimmerman would not be facing a charge now without that “agitation”.

    None of you have criticised the failure of the local police to do their job after a homicide was committed. All your invective has been directed against those who suggested that the police were lacking, and who have now been prove right by the (belated) charge against the perp, who is of course innocent until convicted.

    And you guys still don’t seem to get this. I’m sorry, I can’t make it any clearer.

  43. Colm, Peter –

    It’s my firm recollecton that the investigation had not been concluded, that it had been going on all the time and that Zimmerman had never been put in the clear.

  44. Peter –

    ” .. and who have now been prove right by the (belated) charge against the perp, who is of course innocent until convicted.”

    Hah!

    You are joking, right?

    Your 7.19pm asserts that “Zimmerman is innocent” is a Right Wing line. In your 8.21pm you state that Zimmerman is a vigilante. Your general tone all through has been that Zimmerman is the murderer of the “candy carrying child” Trayvon Martin who was “simply walking home”.

    Zimmerman, in your view, is not innocent until proven guilty. You’ve had him down as a murderer from day one.

  45. “I thought you guys were all for the rule of law? But you both failed to condemn the local police in this case when they failed to do thir job.”

    Peter, how do you know that the local police “failed to do their job?”

    This assumption of yours – that the police failed to do their job – only works if you assume Zimmerman is guilty.

    And you don’t know this, do you. So, you have no respect for the rule of law. You seem to want your law based on your assumptions based on biased media distortions – who’s the racist? You are.

  46. the cops did fail to do their job, that statement proves how little of the actual details of this case you have even followed.

  47. The 911 operator said ” dont follow him ”

    The police wanted to make an arrest I understand

    It was the local DA I understand who chose not to prosecute

    The police did their job

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