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If you want evidence that we need to tighten up on abortion laws, here it is;

NHS figures released to the Press Association under the Freedom of Information Act show another two teenage girls had their seventh abortion in 2010, the most recent year for which data is available, while four more teenagers had a termination for the sixth time. Fourteen teenage girls had their fifth abortion in 2010, 57 teens had a termination for the fourth time and 485 women aged 19 or under went through the procedure for a third time.

SEVEN ABORTIONS. Grotesque. I feel sorry for the girls concerned in one way but cannot help but wonder what sort of family background they must come from and what sort of values they must have that they can terminate life on such a serial basis? Multiple abortions on the NHS seems to be a gross caricature of what the original Abortion Law was brought in to address.

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38 thoughts on “RECREATIONAL ABORTION…

  1. It has been said before,
    We live in an imperfect world.
    The liberals emphasize personal freedom,
    the genuinely Christian emphasize God’s Holy law and His compassion for fallen Man.

    Let’s look at the results of secular humanist devotion to the Right to Choose..

    http://www.spuc.org.uk/education/abortion/abortion-images

    Please look carefully at the pictures. You will need to enlarge them to get the full impact.
    Then remember this is what is happening today with the approval of the same cultures which condemned Adolf Hitler’s Nazi Germany.

  2. Just shows – ‘liberalism’ is just a euphemism egocentric hypocrisy.

  3. Eddie – you beat me to it. 100% agree with you.

    Issue the little sluts er darlings with a large elastic band to keep their knees together.

  4. Agit8ted; “God’s Holy law and His compassion for fallen Man.”
    Was that the compassion he showed between drowning almost all the innocent children on the planet and then killing all the innocent male children in Egypt?

  5. Dave,
    Yeah, that’s the One. Read the book get a grasp of the context and call me back.

    God is Holy and God is Righteous, and He doesn’t issue “Get out of Jail Free” cards on an extended basis.

  6. I have read it Agit8ed. Perhaps you should. try to concentrate on the bits about forgiveness and not being judgmental of others.

  7. David,
    You obviously read the “sanitised touchy feely version..” The clue is in my last sentence at 2:48.
    God forgives where there is repentance. He doesn’t do get out of jail free cards.
    He chose the Jews to make them into His people, and He demonstrated His holiness and compassion through them.
    God uses men’s/nations free will choices for blessing or cursing.
    I seem to remember in the original “non loveydovey” version He kept sending Moses to Pharoah with the message,
    LET MY PEOPLE GO!
    You didn’t read it, or if you did you couldn’t swallow the Holiness bit.

  8. I must agree with the suggestion for sterilisation after the 2nd abortion.

  9. “I must agree with the suggestion for sterilisation after the 2nd abortion.”

    I thought might, Allan.

  10. Agit – for goodness sake, will you quit shilling for judaism. If you really believe that it is such a compassionate religion, get hold of a genuine translation of the torah and talmud (few are available, for reasons seen when reading) and then see what they think of non-jews: quite disgusting really.

  11. “Please look carefully at the pictures. You will need to enlarge them to get the full impact.”

    And then by all means look at some pictures of women killed by illegal abortion or childbirth.

    You won’t need to enlarge them to get the full impact.

  12. “Agit – for goodness sake, will you quit shilling for judaism. If you really believe that it is such a compassionate religion, get hold of a genuine translation of the torah and talmud (few are available, for reasons seen when reading) and then see what they think of non-jews: quite disgusting really.”
    Allan,
    The Torah I got already. In the original language. The Talmud is simply a commentary, a collection of opinions and interpretations by Rabbis and wise people down through the ages. It’s interesting sometimes, boring mostly.
    I don’t bother with it.
    I’ve met Scotsmen who wouldn’t piss on an Englishman if he was on fire…
    Quite disgusting really. 😉

  13. Petr Peter and Frank,
    Sounds like a firm of undertakers.

    You forget Frank. Most women now have a choice as to whether they get pregnant or not.
    The foetus that gets chopped up and tossed in the bucket had no choice at all..

  14. It has nothing to do with misogyny. In my opinion the Abortion debate isn’t even a women’s issue. The matter boils down to when do we give the child/foetus/embryo/cluster of cells etc human rights. If, like me, that date is conception then it isn’t anti women but pro child to be against abortion.

  15. … it isn’t anti women but pro child to be against abortion.

    Very well put.

  16. Agit8ed

    “Most women now have a choice as to whether they get pregnant or not.”

    Irrelevant and untrue. But they all certainly should have a choice as to whether they remain pregnant or not.

    “The foetus that gets chopped up and tossed in the bucket had no choice at all..”

    It had no opinion either, and it certainly doesn’t have any claim to remain in the body of someone else against their will.

    Whereas the (walking, talking) children that die as a consequence of *your* choices, property and freedom do have an opinion and can even tell you they don’t want to die.

    How many of *those* (walking, talking) children must die before it would be OK to strap *you* to a gurney and take your blood, organs or property to save them?

    6? 7? 7 million?

  17. “Most women now have a choice as to whether they get pregnant or not.”

    Irrelevant and untrue

    Frank – why is it irrelevant and untrue? I consider it relevant because women are assumed to be capable of governing their own fertility and its consequences. The availability of contraception is a fact known to all men who have had (female) sexual partners.

  18. Life begins at conception? Load of bullshit. How many fertilised eggs fail to implant and are flushed out during mensturation?

    If a woman happens to have her period, removing the zygote from her body, what is she? A baby killer?

    1 – If you’re so worried about the welfare of these ‘children,’ would you really want them born to unready/unwanting mothers?

    2 – It takes more than a ‘slut’ to concive. If you want to start sterilising, some of you might wanna start between your own legs. Do the gene pool a favour.

  19. “when do we give the child/foetus/embryo/cluster of cells etc human rights.”

    When it is born.

    “If, like me, that date is conception then it isn’t anti women but pro child to be against abortion.”

    Yes it is because like all of your ilk you completely ignore the woman’s human rights. The fact that you cannot point at a live foetus without pointing at a woman makes that quite a feat.

    Meanwhile you not only offer ‘human rights’ to a nobody, but rights that nobody has.

  20. Allan,

    “women are assumed to be capable of governing their own fertility and its consequences. ”

    And one of the possible consequences is pregnancy (so the original statement was untrue), but they don’t have to remain pregnant, do they? (so the original statement was irrelevant)

    “The availability of contraception is a fact known to all men who have had (female) sexual partners.”

    So is the fact that contraception fails.

  21. Enter,

    1 – If you’re so worried about the welfare of these ‘children,’ would you really want them born to unready/unwanting mothers?

    Right. This has nothing to do with concern for children and everything to do with religious fanaticism and contempt for women.

    2 – It takes more than a ‘slut’ to concive. If you want to start sterilising, some of you might wanna start between your own legs. Do the gene pool a favour.

    Hear hear.

  22. Seamus,
    “If, like me, that date is conception then it isn’t anti women but pro child to be against abortion.”

    I agree with your sentiment, but my wife and I believe that once the “baby in the making” develops some degree of awareness, feels pain etc. then it could be described as an act of murder to abort it.
    Prior to that it is indeed an organism and IMO not yet a person.

    There are some circumstances where abortion should be offered, but as I said earlier the child has not asked to be conceived. The woman has a choice, and the man shares some responsibility
    (despite what our resident “Gang of Three, aka as the Smugg Brothers” might argue.
    Ideally children should be wanted, loved and nurtured by two committed parents. They are a blessing, not a commodity or a by product of casual sex.

    It is the value of human life which is under threat here, and it could be argued that the gradual loss of respect for the elderly, the increase in child abuse, and the push towards euthanasia (voluntary then eventually mandatory) may be linked to this casual attitude towards abortion.

  23. Agit8ed,

    “once the “baby in the making” develops some degree of awareness, feels pain etc. then it could be described as an act of murder to abort it.”

    And prior to that you agree it is absolutely fine. yes? Plus since abortions such as you describe are almost certainly either non-existent or medically necessary, it could also be described as, at worst, an act of self-defence.

    And after all, pregnant women definitely have “some degree of awareness and feel pain”, so what could forcing them to remain pregnant and give birth be described as?

  24. God is Holy and God is Righteous, and He doesn’t issue “Get out of Jail Free” cards

    And this guy calls me a nutter! At least I don’t have imaginary frineds.

    it could be argued that the gradual loss of respect for the elderly, the increase in child abuse, and the push towards euthanasia (voluntary then eventually mandatory) may be linked to this casual attitude towards abortion.

    Yes that could be argued… by those edging ever closer to senility.

  25. “Yes that could be argued… by those edging ever closer to senility.”

    Aah so there are limits to your professed care for humanity. Any other categories of people you have reservations about?

    And get it right Petr. I said “nuttr” not nutter.
    Petr Tarasov,
    international man of mystery. His political philosophy is a mystery, his slogans a dime a dozen.
    What are you going to do about these Sudanese you profess to care about?
    How DO you intend to change humanity into a likeness you can approve of?
    Questions aplenty, but answers come there none.

  26. Frank,
    No I don’t agree that it is absolutely “fine”, but as someone said all sorts of things go wrong in planned pregnancy, but deliberate casual abortion is in my view wrong, and is an example of the “ME and MY need for SELF fulfilment”, often without regard to the needs or rights of others.

    “And after all, pregnant women definitely have “some degree of awareness and feel pain”, so what could forcing them to remain pregnant and give birth be described as?”

    A biological desire to have children and nurture and love them?
    Or didn’t your mother feel that way about you?

  27. “If you’re so worried about the welfare of these ‘children,’ would you really want them born to unready/unwanting mothers?”

    Born to unready/unwating mothers or killed? Which would you prefer for yourself?

    “If a woman happens to have her period, removing the zygote from her body, what is she? A baby killer?”

    No its a miscarriage.

    “Yes it is because like all of your ilk you completely ignore the woman’s human rights. The fact that you cannot point at a live foetus without pointing at a woman makes that quite a feat.”

    How is it ignoring their human rights?

    “When it is born.”

    That would be your opinion. I offered mine.

  28. Born to unready/unwating mothers or killed? Which would you prefer for yourself?

    I doubt I’d have cared at the time. I had spent about 14 billion years not existing up until then. Also it’s hard to give a shit about anything when you’re no more than 2 cells.

    No its a miscarriage.

    No, it’s not, get a grip. A miscarriage is a traumatic event. This happens on a regular basis, completely unnoticed.

  29. And if the mother is not aware of her miscarriage then it wouldn’t be a traumatic event. If a woman is 12 weeks pregnant, has a miscarriage but isn’t aware she was pregnant and isn’t aware that it was a miscarriage then it still wouldn’t be overly traumatic for her.

  30. international man of mystery. His political philosophy is a mystery

    No, it’s not. I’ve said it several times:

    My ideology is Marxism-Leninism-Maoism, my vanguard is the Revolutionary Communist Party, my leader is Chairman Avakian.

  31. “No, it’s not. I’ve said it several times:

    My ideology is Marxism-Leninism-Maoism, my vanguard is the Revolutionary Communist Party, my leader is Chairman Avakian.”

    Well that’s the first time I’ve ever seen you explain your political viewpoint, and I nearly always read your comments.

  32. Agit8ed,

    “No I don’t agree that it is absolutely “fine”” … deliberate casual abortion is in my view wrong, and is an example of the “ME and MY need for SELF fulfilment”, often without regard to the needs or rights of others.”

    What others? You said “Prior to that it is indeed an organism and IMO not yet a person.” so what on earth is your objection to abortion prior to that?

    Perhaps you could also explain why it is anything to do with you, at a point when even you agree that the only person directly involved is the woman herself? Despite your lack of involvement, it does indeed seem to be an example of “YOU and YOUR needs”, for some reason. Motes and beams, eh?

    ““And after all, pregnant women definitely have “some degree of awareness and feel pain”, so what could forcing them to remain pregnant and give birth be described as?”
    A biological desire to have children and nurture and love them?”

    Try again, with an intellectually honest answer this time. If you make women remain pregnant and give birth against their will, those PEOPLE will suffer and be harmed, and some of them will even die. And yes there is no doubt at all that some of them will die and no doubt at all that these women are people. What could it be called when YOU do that to people?

    Judge not lest you be judged old chap.

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