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HOW DO YOU SOLVE A PROBLEM LIKE SHARIA?

By ATWadmin On November 30th, 2006

It’s here.  It’s real.  And it’s operating in our country.  An investigation by the Daily Express has revealed that secret courts meting out Islamic sharia law are now fully functional in the United Kingdom.  According to the report, it first emerged that Muslims (who else!?) were operating their own judicial customs; with legal experts blaming this Labour government (again, who else!?) for effectively turning a blind eye to the establishment of these mediaeval forms of punishment.

A Somalian (what the bloody hell are they doing here!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!?  Oh I forgot, they are ‘enriching the British ethnic tapestry with their skills and contribution to the economy’.  So sayeth the book of Leftist Pro-immigration Propaganda for Beginners) youth worker gives an account of just such a sharia trial which took place in Woolwich, south east London.  The form of hearing coupled with the recompense was, according to this come-over, more in line with standards of legal practice in full swing on Africa’s horn.  He concludes his witness statement by saying:

‘Somalis, wherever we live in the world, have our own law.’

My goodness, aren’t these Somalis a real boon to our society?  When they are not murdering police officers outside Bradford travel agencies they are engaging in a bit of Muslim-heavy justice in suburbia beside the Thames.  What is more, they do so with the apparent acknowledgement of our weak and spineless authorities who long ago foresook the principles which underpin societal and constitutional stability by pandering to elements who most hate this country and what it stands for.

A remedy should centre on absolute zero tolerance (the American version, not this pusillanimous garbage we have here, which insults the very concept) of sharia law, and indeed other forms of Muslim defiance in our country.  We do not have a perfect system – far from it.  What we do have is a system everybody had to accept – begrudgingly or otherwise.  Heavy penalties need to be enforced for anyone practising sharia law here.  Will those with power have the sense to use it?

33 Responses to “HOW DO YOU SOLVE A PROBLEM LIKE SHARIA?”

  1. Andrew: We may not always (ever) get along but that is the funniest headline I’ve seen. Nice job.

  2. Andrew,

    Great pun and an excellent content. I agree with you entirely here. Why, EXACTLY, are Somalis so very central to the UK economy? I missed that memo.

  3. Thank you, both.

  4. They are not alone Andrew.

    My wife is a Registered Nurse here in Nova Scotia and was called to her Director’s Office one day recently, she went along and said "Hi Heather, what’s up?" (pretty informal here).

    Was told that she was being disciplined on an allegation supported by hearsay only. My girl was not allowed to speak before being found guilty of insubordination (she had refused no orders). Something of a shock as she has been an RN for 30 years in the UK, Ireland and the USA with no disciplines against her.

    Appealed it through the Nova Scotia Nurses Union. Executive Director of that Union has told her that she will not appear at any hearing as "the management will be more open if you’re not there." ??

    So, my wife who has done nothing wrong will have been given no opportunity to speak, call or question witnesses, or produce documentary evidence before her personal record is blotted by the Mangement/Union combo.

    Remembrance Day a couple of weeks ago, poignant indeed here in North Sydney,where so many brave men,the sailors on the convoys that set off from our harbour to cross the Nazi Submarine backyard that was the North Atlantic.

    Their sacrifices and those of so many others who gave their all to maintain our freedom mean nothing to the gobshites that run our local Hospital and their Union bedfellows.

  5. Andrew: You have correctly pointed out here that there have to be some limits to tolerance. Tolerating Sharia law would be suicide for the West.

    And I am still laughing over the title of your piece.

  6. Something I learned about Britain’s Somali population a few weeks ago:

    "The report, by the Institute for Public Policy Research, however showed that only 12% of the Somalis living in Britain are employed compared to just over 81% of the South Africans, 73% of Zimbabweans and 61% of Nigerians."
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/africa/4222812.stm

    Twelve percent! No wonder that they have so much time to set up sharia courts.

  7. I fail to see why there should be any tolerance. Is this Britain or not?

  8. Stu – what a 21th Century story. What good is a union rep if that is all they can do. Good luck to the Mrs. and if I may be so bold as to suggest in the future COUNTERCLAIM against the bastards.

  9. Excellent headline indeed.

    However the linked piece is rather misleading to say the least. You have to wade through all the stoning, amputation and beheading (all illegal, even if the state did it) to get to what these ‘courts’ are doing (which involves none of those and is not illegal).

    The courts are open to everyone but they are not compulsory. People are free to resolve their disputes however they want. Just so long as it’s legal.

  10. Frank

    If it is totally volentary and nothing illegal goes on (and I would include withholding evidence of criminality from the police), people should be free to involve themselves.

    The ifs are how volentary is it really and are we sure that nothing ilegal goes on.

  11. Hi Mahons,
    Thanks for the interest and advice.
    Bit tricky though; closed shop here (weren’t told this ’till we got here mind) and it’s surprising how many rights are signed away by the Union in it’s Collective Agreement with the management. For instance, wife fell on Hospital floor that had been covered in polish (no signs). Fractured sacrum and elbow damaged to the extent that she cannot undo the gas filler cap on the car. Cannot sue employer, all "covered" by Workers Comp. ie if you go sick you get 75% of pay, rising to 85% after a month or two.

    Wife is British to the core, swallows the painkillers and works on. 4 teenagers going for Uni and that is our responsibility.

  12. Aileen,

    "The ifs are how volentary is it really and are we sure that nothing ilegal goes on."

    Yes of course. But that is why we have mediation AND we have law enforcement. It’s not like Sharia is the first to have this potential – it could equally be Barry the Baptist performing debt collection, or IRA punishment beatings, couldn’t it?

  13. Forgot to say, like everyone else I loeve the title. Actually the titles on ATW are generally very clever.

    Stu
    best of luck with that!

  14. Stu – workers compensation would bar her from suing employer for that type of negligence in U.S. also. See if the hospital had contracted out to a cleaning company (they often do) and if so she probably sue the cleaning company (if time hasn’t gone by). In any event she sounds like a trooper and the kids sound blessed. This is the kind of case that drives one crazy regarding personal injury claims – honest working people have a hard time collecting for serious injury while often times rascals collect for none. Don’t get me started.

  15. Good post Andrew.

    Watch out for the usual suspects coming out in favour of Sharia any time now.

  16. Frank

    or the Elvis Costelloe fan club enacting some strange ritualist punishment on David for not playing an EC track one week.

    Yes we lave law enforcement but that is very hard to actually enforce when you are dealing with people living in fear.

  17. >>Watch out for the usual suspects coming out in favour of Sharia any time now.<<

    I always wished the Sharia could have been introduced in my childhood home.

  18. Cunningham: Don’t you mean Shakira?

  19. Frank O’Dwyer makes the crucial point here: People are free to resolve their disputes however they want. Just so long as it’s legal.

    Exactly – so long as you mean (and I took you to mean) legal under British law. I HOPE that what is happening here is in essence the same thing as parents disciplining their children, or companies disciplining their employees according to their contracts. Whatever is in such contracts has to be legal under UK law. Similarly, if a Sharia "court" exists, so long as the "justice" dealt out is perfectly legal, then I suppose it could be viewed in the same way as, say, the Catholic Church excommunicating someone. But if a Sharia "court" was to deprive anyone of their liberty, or order someone to be beaten, mutilated or killed, then I would want such things treated as crimes of kidnapping, assault, GBH or murder.
    I HOPE that would be the case, and I think that mostly it would….but there are worrying doubts in my mind, somehow.

  20. The worrying aspect is that the Somali in question doesn’t recognize the jurisdiction of British courts over him, nor does he accept that he is bound to respect the laws of your Realm.

    It was also interesting that the article states that many Muslims are upset. Presumably, they don’t wish HMG to hand them over to extra-judicial proceedings.

  21. >>Don’t you mean Shakira?<<

    LOL!!

    She really is something different. I was, however, remembering the sight of my three sisters across from me at the breakfast table on countless rainy Tuesday mornings in February, times when certain Muslim practices seemed like a really good idea for some visual relief.

    I’d have gladly stayed Catholic if they’d been even a bit like:

    http://www.mpovezave.com/glasba/shakira/logo.jpg

  22. >>Don’t you mean Shakira?<<

    LOL!!

    She really is something different. I was, however, remembering the sight of my three sisters across from me at the breakfast table on countless rainy Tuesday mornings in February, times when certain Muslim practices seemed like a really good idea for some visual relief.

    I’d have gladly stayed Catholic if they’d been even a bit like:

    http://www.shakirainfo.com/images/wallpaper/shakira_wallpaper5.jpg

  23. Oops,sorry for the double post (but second pic is worth it!)

  24. Cunningham: Feel free to post as many pictures on that topic as you like.
    I had two sisters and the scars to prove it.

  25. I’d have loved to have had sisters. With three brothers, I never had much scope for swaping clothes and makeup or the sisterlu confidences.

    After all sympathy and understanding is what one woman gives to another, in return for all the details!

  26. >>I never had much scope for swaping clothes and makeup or the sisterlu confidences<<

    Aileen, my sisters also always refused to lend me theirs!

  27. That explains the wish for Sharia Rule in the childhood home.

  28. Back to topic. I wonder do many transsexuals in Arabia wear the burqa?

  29. Yes, but they don’t have to wear the hood because they’ve been beheaded.
    Goodnight.

  30. they don’t have to wear the hood because they’ve been beheaded, lol at that and the post headline.

    I agree with andrew entirely here. In the link it says ‘He insisted he is more bound by the law of his country’ to which id be inclined to reply ‘bullsh1t’. It stinks. Of course he would say that. but this all sounds extremely sinister and you can bet his laws relating to women will be nice and tough and the evidence suitably covered up by niqabs.

    Speaking of which the rather ugly girl in the accompanying photo in the article is wearing a Calvin Klein niqab. Thats interesting. I always thought that garb was supposed to represent piety. Whats pious about designer gear?

  31. I say If this Sharia law business does the trick of taming these anti social yobs in a way that our laughable justice system utterly fails to do, more power to it.

  32. Colm – The mafia were good at keeping law and order in their social circles too. please have a read of sites like mpac before you endorse this.

  33. Alison

    My comment isn’t meant to be an endorsment of anything barbaric or illegal, but on the sense of community shame that being brought before the elders of their community seems to have done in this case. The ‘punishment’ was a financial penalty in this case agreed by all involved. I was makning more of a dig against our useless ‘youth justice’ system, I’m not about to start supporting the beheading of adulterers or jailing of ‘shamed’ raped schoolgirls.