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Has anyone told Al Gore?

Sea ice surrounding Antarctica is witnessing record growth, say scientists from NASA’s Jet Propulsion Lab and the British Antarctic Survey. To hear global warming alarmists, melting Arctic ice allegedly vindicates their claims.  Unfortunately for them, the Antarctic ice cover reached a record 7.5 million square mile expanse this year, with some regions showing a doubling in size since 1992. That confirms a separate report last month from NASA’s Goddard Space Flight Center, which revealed that Antarctica’s winter sea ice has increased some 6,600 square miles.  The Wall Street Journal notes that is larger in size than the state of Connecticut, offsetting declines in sea ice around the North Pole:

All that warming is causing all this…erm…freezing?

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  1. Yawn.

    Global temperatures have been rising for decades. Glaciers are melting all over the world. Spring, summer and autumn are longer by weeks and winters are shorter by weeks. Extreme weather events are becoming the new normal (think of the US this year or last year). And the Arctic will be free of sea ice within a few years. But still the deniers clutch at straws.

  2. Jonathan, on November 24th, 2012 at 9:19 PM Said:
    It’s simple; all the heat is rising.

    So is all the ‘Tax’ 😉

  3. Global warmists have been anxious to link the recent outbreak of ash dieback with rising temperatures, but they have all gone quiet now because it appears that the disease originated in parts of northern Asia which has recorded steadily dropping ‘mean’ temperatures over the past few years — conditions that favour the spread of this type of fungus.
    Mycologists are only speculating on this correlation, but it would be another nail in the coffin of AGW if northern Europe starts to experience a protracted cooling off period, which looks increasingly likely.

    If it takes the death of Europe’s ash trees to prove this point, it may be a calamity worth enduring, just to see the the expression on those climate Druid’s faces.

  4. Ah ‘Deniers’ are not that bad …

    Quote from link .

    I take it the quote is about Global warming alarmists

    “I hate liars and I really hate liars with an agenda.”

  5. Thought so. Are you a creationist by any chance? I only ask because there is a substantial overlap, and a common anti-science agenda.

  6. Bernard

    Peter’s question was not at all that type of question.

    Of course the logical answer to the question – have you stopped beating your wife? For those who never started in “no”!

  7. Harri

    Thanks for that clarification, but it’s disappointing that a scientist chooses to reject all the evidence for rising temperatures, never mind debating possible causes.

  8. Interesting Aileen. Can there be any logical Yes/No answer to that question if you do not have a wife or have never beaten a wife that you have. Surely the use of Yes or No implies either a continuation or a ceasing of something that never happened, hence the use of both Yes or No as an answer would be illogical.

  9. Okay Aileen, I’ll answer: Yes it was, but now it’s not.
    In both cases humankind had no hand in it.
    That mighty flaming orb in the sky versus man’s puny CO2 emissions — no contest.

  10. I work with scientists, many scientists, when we are working on projects we all have different opinions .. until we get results.

    We do not the need to shout each other down as ‘Deniers’ to get that result.

    Then again, we work for the private sector, we have no-one elses agendas to worry about, we are paid to come up with chemical solutions.

    But I am convinced that if the State ever got involved in any of our projects the whole kit & caboodle will surely in double quick time .. turn to dust 😉

  11. Apologies

    “We do not the feel the need to shout each other down as ‘Deniers’ to get that result”

    we work in highly sophistcated Labs .. not Kindergartens.

  12. Okay I give up

    ““We do not feel the need to shout each other down as ‘Deniers’ to get that result”

    Phew, this is hard work, it must be the medication.

    As soon as the righteous start with all this childish ‘Denier’ crap .. tha’s it, debate over .. oh hold on a minute.

  13. Harri

    It’s interesting that you think you are right and the temperature records and melting glaciers are wrong. I assume your view is that they are faked?
    I’m really interested to know how someone with a science background can take the view that the climate is not warming, despite all the evidence. Maybe you think it’s cooling?

  14. Colm

    To have stopped beating your wife, you have had to have started.

    If you answer “no” to the question many people may assume you have started and are continuing to, but that is their wooly logic.

    I can say with conviction that no I have not stopped beating my wife.

    I have not stopped taking heroin and I have not stopped biting the heads of whippets 🙂

  15. “I can say with conviction that no I have not stopped beating my wife.

    I have not stopped taking heroin and I have not stopped biting the heads of whippets”

    You certainly don’t have a dull life Aileen 🙂

  16. Colm, on November 24th, 2012 at 10:48 PM Said:
    Harri

    You think the private sector doesn’t work to anyone else’s agenda ?

    Don’t know Colm, We are presented with a Commercial problem, we come up with an answer.

    Peter, we could ( all day and night long ) quote from different scientists who are for and against Global warming climate change, I believe that if man actulay believ4es that man can in influence nature, then I personaly believe they are incorrect.. what I do know for sure, with all the AGW believers, the argument and the case for AGW was a lost cause the very nano-second the State got involved.

  17. Off topic, but two of the Scientists I have worked with, came up with recipe for Viagra, and the compound for chewing gum. Clever buggers they are, if anyone mentions ‘Global warming’ Climate change around them .. they laugh, they are German and usualy just say ‘scheisse’

  18. Colm, on November 24th, 2012 at 10:59 PM Said:
    Harri

    You follow the money. You are offered a payment. You please the paymaster.

    Not really Colm, we are paid for what we know, not what we do.

  19. “Not really Colm, we are paid for what we know, not what we do”

    All mouth and no trousers eh ? 😉

  20. Colm, on November 24th, 2012 at 11:05 PM Said:
    “Not really Colm, we are paid for what we know, not what we do”

    All mouth and no trousers eh ?

    Well, that makes a refershing change from being shouted down as a ‘Denier’ progress at last 😉

    We still get paid if we do not find a solution, my time is as just as valuable as anyone else’s.

    Got any more insults Colm?

  21. Harri

    I didn’t mention AGW. My question was about whether or not the climate is warming. You have stated that you don’t accept the evidence for warming, never mind the possible mix of causes.

    So for the record, do you believe that the temperature record is wrong and that the evidence of warming (Arctic sea-ice disappearing etc) is either faked or should be disregarded?

  22. “Got any more insults Colm? ”

    Yes – Can I have your “We still get paid if we do not find a solution” job. ?

  23. So for the record, do you believe that the temperature record is wrong and that the evidence of warming (Arctic sea-ice disappearing etc) is either faked or should be disregarded?

    As Colm stated ….’Follow the money’ that’s always a good start.

    I firmly believe that the Temp records have been manipulated, and working on ‘Models’ (manipulated or otherwise) is bad science.

  24. Colm, on November 24th, 2012 at 11:11 PM Said:
    “Got any more insults Colm? ”

    Yes – Can I have your “We still get paid if we do not find a solution” job. ?

    If you happen to have the correct qualifications and there is a vacancy .. why not, unless you wamnt to make a complete arse of yourself.. I would like to be a banker, do you know of any vacancies, or I would not mind a job with the IPCC Group, I could do 5 star hotels and first class travel, and the finest cuisine and wines on the planet, and visit exotic locations all o ver the world, why I will even as a scientist agree with everything they say.

  25. Colm, no matter what the suits say to clients … on a scientific point of view, if it can not be done with chemistry .. it cant be done, simples.

  26. And presumably the melting glaciers have also been manipulated?

    As previously stated (twice) I’m not talking about the future, merely the past. But you seem to deny the history of melting, early springs etc, so I won’t be debating further. Stay in your comfort zone.

  27. Oh lighten up Harri – I’m only pulling your totally non State funded and entirely private sector maintained scientific leg 😉

  28. Anyway, this old Global warming Climate change Infidel requires sleep, so I will bid you goodnight.

    It’s freezing here, then again, it’s always freezing this time of year, it never changes from year to year, it’s called Winter 😉

  29. Melting Glaciers, if only those Dinosaurs had paid just that little bit more tax eh?

    Goodnight people.

  30. Colm, on November 24th, 2012 at 11:23 PM Said:
    Oh lighten up Harri – I’m only pulling your totally non State funded and entirely private sector maintained scientific leg

    One last thing, it’s funny you should say that, from time to time we are asked by the Police, I take it they are the State, to carry out Forensic work on Items which require chemical breakdowns, independent of the State labs, no manipulation, they get the facts as we find them .. does our company get paid for this work? don’t know, never asked.

  31. Of course you get paid – I’m sure the police cancel all your outstanding criminal warrants 😉

    Good night !

  32. Peter –

    1. “Global temperatures have been rising for decades.”

    They’ve been rising and falling for decades. For the last decade and a half they’ve shown virtually no change. Global temperatures will soon decline.

    2. “Glaciers are melting all over the world.”

    Some are advancing, some are retreating.

    For a man who professes to follow the science, you’re very imprecise.

  33. I started out believing the hype.
    Until I saw the inconvenient truth at an IMAX Theater, that made me realize that if global warming is real, nothing and I mean nothing we little people do, will change a thing.
    Yes I would believe those “world leaders “and the story of global warming, if they were taking the initiative, like true leaders and started living like there really was a problem, at least one we can all share in the solution of.
    These wealthy wine sippers (Elites) jetting around the world scaring the be-jeepers out of us little people, is sick. They blast from meeting to meeting and laugh at us scrambling around, sorting our garbage into blue boxes, what a pathetic joke it must seem.
    They have us arguing amongst ourselves, sorting into teams for, against and the black Friday shoppers. Meanwhile we are achieve nothing, and in the end will buy into some miracle solution put forward by these jokers.
    Yes the urgency they paint is such that we all must stop buying, driving, using paper, plastic, metal, Oil, water, electricity. You get the picture yet?
    The only thing that will solve the problem is if we all stop existing, and old Henry doesn’t have much time to watch.
    “Depopulation should be the highest priority of foreign policy towards the third world, because the US economy will require large and increasing amounts of minerals from abroad, especially from less developed countries.”
    — Henry Kissinger, National Security Memo 200, dated April 24, 1974
    I will not believe one more word uttered by these men.

  34. GeorgeW

    That sounds like a fake Kissinger quote.

    Even if he thought that, he’d not be stupid enough to say it, much less put it in writing.

  35. Phantom,
    It was very unwise of me to use that as a “Henry’s Quote” from the — National Security Memo 200, dated April 24, 1974 — as you are correct to point out that it would not be wise for a man with Henry’s position in the World to say something as direct as that.
    Henry is far too politically savvy for that.
    The quote should therefore not have been attributed to Henry at all, but more as an indication of the spirit of the study itself.

    I will redact that quote from my comment but will remain firm in that the rest of what I said in the comment is my personal point of view. (Though much condensed)

  36. Harri,

    “Clever buggers they are, if anyone mentions ‘Global warming’ Climate change around them .. they laugh, they are German and usualy just say ‘scheisse’”

    Anyone, or just people like you?

  37. Harri

    How can you prove what somebody did not say ?

    GeorgeW

    Your 5.27pm makes you sound like a lawyer arguing in a court of law.

  38. Frank,

    That works both ways, you choose to believe, your choice.

    ” Poeple like me ” what someone who disagrees with your Quasi religion .. tough, get over it.

  39. Harri

    It was just a suggestion. Maybe if your ‘clever bugger’ colleagues says ‘scheisse’ any time you mention global warming, they are trying to tell you something?

  40. Harri

    But that’s the opposite point. That is evidence in favour of an attributed quote. Generally speaking how do you prove that a person did not say something ?

  41. Harri

    That quote sounds about as plausible as Allan’s false quote from the Bank of England chairman

    Stay out of the disinformation business. Too much competition.

  42. Stay out of the disinformation business. Too much competition.

    Phantom

    I agree, there is the State for a start, and you cant get any better than them for disinformation 😉

  43. Colm,
    Thanks for your kind words regarding my writing style.
    “GeorgeW
    Your 5.27pm makes you sound like a lawyer arguing in a court of law.”

    Unlike twitter, we are capable of making longer comments, perhaps even explaining in better detail what we wish to say.

    Here’s a starter:
    The Three R’s need to be re-vamped.
    Manufacturing and marketing are the key to Reducing, the consumer is the key to Re-using, and Recycling has no money the way it is being used, in fact true recycling will not take place until there is less manufacturing forcing us to repair instead of replace.
    Just a couple of small changes, it should be so easy to do right?

    Nothing will change until we no longer exist.

    Kind of like the Documentary “Life without People” for instance. Here is a line or two from http://topdocumentaryfilms.com/life-after-people/
    “The very notion is deliciously ghoulish: What happens to earth if – or when – people suddenly vanished? The History Channel presents a dramatic, fascinating what-if scenario, part science fiction and part true natural science. Welcome to Earth, Population: 0 is the catchy tagline, Life After People’s 94 minutes are so gripping you nearly forget while you watch that you, yourself, will be gone too.
    It turns out that earth can go along very nicely without us.”

    That said; please share your preferred method for dealing with Global Warming.

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