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You know that I am not a huge fan of McCain, but we’re going to have deal with this because, like it or not, he’s ours.  I have been observing the meltdown of many conservatives in America over the fact that John McCain is not the ideal candidate for most.  He is not.  I would prefer that he wasn’t ‘it’.  However, after hearing many Republicans insist that they will sit the election out, vote a write in candidate, or (worse yet!) vote for the Democrat, my sense of alarm is beginning to peak.  I was hoping that the histrionics were a momentary emotional reaction to the horrifying probability that we awakened to after the SC and FL primaries.  I certainly felt disgusted and considered throwing my vote away in the general election.  We must settle down now, and consider the issues.

I will submit my first issue tonight.  Healthcare.  John McCain sucks in many ways, but on healthcare he is right where conservatives would like him to be.  The Hildebeast and Hussein Obama favor complete government control over our healthcare – disaster.   This is America for God sake. 

A recent article in my beloved Weekly Standard lays it all out very nicely. Here is a paragraph that I feel summarizes it well:

McCain’s plan is based around patient-centered initiatives that already have broad support among Republicans in Congress. They include letting people buy health insurance nationally instead of only from state-regulated firms; giving people the choice of purchasing coverage through cooperatives or other organizations (churches or civic groups, for example); expanding health savings accounts; and making health insurance portable by giving people tax credits of up to $5,000 per family to buy their own coverage instead of getting it through an employer.

He has also expressed concern for veterans, and his proposals include allowing vets to obtain healthcare anywhere – not just the VA.

I know that some readers here admire universal, government run healthcare. I disagree entirely, but I do believe that McCain’s proposals would improve the lives of every American.

In closing, I have to say that I have missed coming here daily and I apologize for not contributing as much as I would like. I have started working full time – – and here’s the real shocker – the girls will be attending school in the fall!

Now – let’s have a friendly chat about healthcare!

Grizzly Mama

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12 thoughts on “McCain and Healthcare

  1. GM,

    As Frank O’Dwyer correctly observed over on the "Just in Case" thread, Clinton and Obama are also only talking about health insurance just like McCain. It is completely incorrect to claim that anyone running for POTUS is advocating complete government control over our healthcare.

  2. You are wrong, Alan. The Hildebeast has pushed for universal government controlled health care, and Obama’s position on it is just as far left.

    Obama 5/29/2007: "My plan begins by covering every American. If you already have health insurance, the only thing that will change for you under this plan is the amount of money you will spend on premiums. That will be less. If you are one of the 45 million Americans who don’t have health insurance, you will have it after this plan becomes law."

    From Obama’s website: "Obama’s Plan to Cover Uninsured Americans: Obama will make available a new national health plan to all Americans.."

    Hillary – Des Moines, Iowa – March, 2007: "We’re going to have universal health care when I’m president — there’s no doubt about that. We’re going to get it done," the New York senator and front-runner for the 2008 nomination said.

    Alan – I know that you favor a universal healthcare system (read government run healthcare), and have cited anecdotal evidence of people losing their houses or whatnot due to medical care costs. Even though I have showered you with just as much anecdotal evidence of destitute/working poor/middle class Americans receiving top of the line medical care in America, and having none of the financial woes that you stridently insist they are having – you still refuse to budge. You’re a fan of the Hildebeast though, so what can I say??

  3. Monica (if I may call you Monica),

    Anecdotal quotes don’t describe the Clinton and Obama plans either. They are about insurance. Go look them up.

    As to our earlier discussions about people without insurance in America, who is paying for that top of the line medical care when the non-indigent user without insurance can’t (not counting the ones that Phantom raised money for)?

  4. Alan – why are you in denial about your party’s main issue in their platform? Both of your candidates main plank is universal, government run, healthcare for everyone. Plain and simple, in words coming out of their own mouths and written on their own website. Universal Health Care. That means Government Run Healthcare. That and pulling the troops out of Iraq – it’s all they’ve got. Two issues and you are in complete denial about the main one.

    We have had this debate before. Well – I must correct myself and say that I’ve pointed out many sources of dollars for recipients of medical care who do not have insurance. You have never actually provided any rebuttal to my points. America is among the richest nations on Earth, if not THE richest. America stands alone in its citizens’ philanthropic pursuits. Hell – Troll and I not rich by anybody’s standard, yet we give. We give in many, many different ways. There are dozens of charitable organizations whose sole mission is to provide funds to help with medical costs. We’re talking millions of dollars available to those who need it and the accounting is transparent. Those corporations that the Euro-lefties hate so much? BILLIONS of dollars given to charitable organizations of every stripe.

    Government? We’re talking trillions of dollars going into a pit – – and nobody knows where, or how, or who has spent it or what it was spent on.

    You just keep telling yourself that your candidates don’t really mean what they say or write. sheesh. You know – it must be nice. It must be nice to be able to lie so easily to yourself.

  5. GM/T

    I like McCain’s suggestions. One of the problems with the system as it is concerns state interference in the plans companies have to provide which drives up costs.

    But why does universal cover have to mean government run? Car insurance is compulsory where I live but it is not government run.

  6. Henry,

    You are absolutely right and Monica (Grizzly Mama) is absolutely wrong. Since you are not a member of the American Republican party, you can look at this question objectively instead of misleading readers about the proposals of the Democratic candidates.

    Here’s the plans from Obama, Clinton and McCain. They are all about health insurance.

  7. Neither one of you can comprehend what the candidates are saying. They are NOT similar at ALL.

    Clinton and Obama want a national health plan – similar to medicare – for those who don’t have the option of health insurance in the workplace. What the hell is medicare, Alan???

    What do you think is going to happen when this ‘national health plan’ is put into law? Do you think that employers, whose biggest employee expense is health benefits, are going to continue to offer health plan options? They are already dumping employees into state run plans in some areas.

    Both of you are wrong. You just don’t want to admit it.

  8. OK, Monica, you won’t read the links I gave you.

    Here are excerpts from the three plans:

    Barack Obama’s Plan
    Obama will make available a new national health plan to all Americans, including the self-employed and small businesses, to buy affordable health coverage that is similar to the plan available to members of Congress.
    Hillary Clinton’s Plan
    Unlike the current health system where insurance premiums send people into bankruptcy, the plan provides tax credits for working families to help them cover their costs. The tax credits will ensure that working families never have to pay more than a limited percentage of their income for health care.
    John McCain’s Plan
    While we reform the system and maintain quality, we can and must provide access to health care for all our citizens – whether temporarily or chronically uninsured, whether living in rural areas with limited services, or whether residing in inner cities where access to physicians is often limited.

    All about the same to me, but all different to you.

  9. If the states would get out of the way with their health insurance commissions that mandate gold plated policies only and allow health insurance to be sold like car or homeowners insurance with unlimited options at varying costs, this wouldn’t be an issue for the Federal government to be sticking its fingers in. The only thing I would like to see the feds do on health care/insurance (since the states are keeping people from purchasing a competitive product at an affordable price) is enact a piece of legislation that prohibits the states from issuing these idiotic & onerous insurance mandates. Can anyone say "Lobbyists"?

    I’m going to disagree with you Monica. All three candidates are talking about differing types of insurance & tax programs not government run healthcare like the NHS or Canadian system. I think Hillary likes the idea of an NHS-type system, but she’s learned after her first fiasco that the public would dump her quicker than spit if she ran on that policy.

  10. In addition to more affordable health insurance, shouldn’t there be some attempt to curb the abusive law suits – that drive the cost of medecine spiralling upwards because physicians and hospitals have to insure themselves against liability loss? The cost of their malpractice insurance policies is huge and ever increasing?

    I don’t think it is the insurance companies fault; outrageous sums are awarded to plaintiffs by sympathetic juries.

    In other words, it’s the fault of the lawyers! And I think the abuse should be curbed by a "ceiling" on the amount of awards given out, and some control over the "deep pocket" lawsuit fishing that lawyers indulge in.

  11. Patty: Yes, some sanity caps on the lawsuits would be an appropriate course of action. So too would be a serious overall in the monitoring of bad doctors. The medical profession so hesitates to weed out its own bad apples. In addition, penalties to insurance companies that refuse to pay just and valid claims would help even the scales.

  12. They could get CHIPS inline too. There are plenty of people who truly do need some state run insurance/health care help – but the people who abuse the system because they are dishonest (and cheap) need to be rooted out and prosecuted.

    I get totally disgusted with people who scam the government systems when they could afford to be on their company’s policies. I have no tolerance for people who choose to spend their money on "lifestyle" rather than participate in their company’s programs. Why should I, their neighbor, have to pick up their free clinic visits or skipped hospital bills in order to subsidize their bar bill, loft rent or Lexus payment?

    Patty – while I agree that some of these medical lawsuit awards are insane, I don’t want my ability to sue a negligent hospital or doctor for actual malpractice to be curbed. I think one of the biggest medical lawsuit abuses are those large class action suits, where seedy lawfirms troll the country for clients.

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