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FLYING THE EU FLAG…

By ATWadmin On May 3rd, 2008

eussrno2.gifDid you see the report which alleges that the European Union will open its own embassies under a plan critics fear represents a "power grab" by Brussels officials pushing for a federal superstate? The secret plan represents the first time that full EU embassies have been discussed seriously. The "Embassies of the Union" would be controlled by a new EU diplomatic service created by the Lisbon Treaty. The new service would rival established diplomatic services. Britain, with one of the world’s largest, maintains 139 embassies and high commissions in capital cities. Equally controversial is a proposal for EU ambassadors who would be accountable to the European Parliament.

Correction – these Embassies of the Union are not being established to "rival" the Embassies of the Nation States. They are designed to replace them. The EU political elite seek to impose their agenda uber alles and we, as a free people, need to get out while we still can. I want to be like Harry Houdini now I’m the invisible man.

22 Responses to “FLYING THE EU FLAG…”

  1. but comrad you belong only to a vassel state, you will be much better represented in all world affairs by the politburo in Brussels

  2. >>you belong only to a vassel state,<<

    I agree with Troll: – the EU has much more diplomatic clout than puny Britain, which lost a lot of the little influence it had before it tied its foreign policy to the tail of a Texan jackass.
    .
    Besides, have you any idea what it costs to maintain 139 embassies? Now multiply that unnecessary expense by 25 and you’ve got the absurdity of separate national representation by the EU states. The idea of joint embassies has been around for some time, but hitherto always came to grief on – you will be pleased to know – the French Non.

  3. Troll,

    "you belong only to a vassel state"

    Instance of unintended humour #3290, a vassel being a ship of state to a Belfastonian.

  4. Does the EU have more diplomatic power than the UK? If you mess with the UK too much you will ultimately face Her Majesty’s Armed forces. Mess with the EU and you face 42 committees who can’t agree on the lanuage to the resolution calling upon you to please stop, so long as you don’t take the request to be offensive.

  5. >>If you mess with the UK too much you will ultimately face Her Majesty’s Armed forces. <<

    mahons, has the NY Times not yet told you that gunboat diplomacy ended around 110 years ago?

    Just imagine you are in the real world;
    Now, which do you think would be more effective in, say, getting China to negotiate with the Dalai Lama – the risk of losing the EU supplier and customer market or the threat of "Her Majesty’s Armed forces"?

  6. Noel – Didn’t mean they would revisit the old days more that the UK has a spine that the EU lacks at its core, and China knows that.

  7. Mahons

    Well said, both comments.

    I still believe that the EU federal project will founder and that the EU will be forced to morph into a much looser trade-based association. There are too many differences – linguistic, cultural, historical – between the nations for them to be submerged in a united states of Europe.

  8. Noel said

    "Just imagine you are in the real world;
    Now, which do you think would be more effective in, say, getting China to negotiate with the Dalai Lama – the risk of losing the EU supplier and customer market or the threat of "Her Majesty’s Armed forces"?"

    Your right Noel why should China fear puny Britain or the EU when they are doing this Chinese build secret nuclear submarine base

    Yeah just imagine YOUR in the real world, the world where as you disarm and shrink your military to the point where it wouldn’t even beable to take back the Falklands these days The Chi-Coms are expanding their military at a rate that within 20 years they will not only be the world economic power but it’s largest military one.

    Remember this is a country that FORCES woman to kill their female babies, that runs tanks over it’s on people and that promotes the exicutions of christians, and that just scratches the surface.

    you won’t see the real world until the jihadi sitting next to you explodes

  9. The EU needs Britian more than Britian needs the EU. You contribute way too much to the project, the EU court gave away your fisheries and the ability to control your borders. Thank God you still have the pound and the ability to set interset rates.

    GSTQ!

  10. Troll,

    "Remember this is a country that FORCES woman to kill their female babies, that runs tanks over it’s on people and that promotes the exicutions of christians, and that just scratches the surface.

    "you won’t see the real world until the jihadi sitting next to you explodes"

    Well done! An object-lesson in xenophobia. Two major world groups shat upon in two short grafs.

    But… did you forget about dem dark chaps in Africa?

  11. Troll posted:

    this is a country that FORCES woman to kill their female babies..

    Rubbish. The Chinese junta is rightly concerned at the growing number of young men with no prospect of marriage as a result of the cultural discrimination against female babies (the same thing happens in India). They have made it illegal, but like all cultural issues it is difficult to bring about change in the short term.

    There is already a serious sexuual imbalance in the population of China which will get worse in coming years, with incalculable political consequences for the regime.

  12. typical communist government Peter, they are worried about a problem they created.

    are you fools really defending the chinese government or is it just a need to be opposit of my point of view…lol

    god i hope its the later

  13. >>The EU needs Britian more than Britian needs the EU.<<

    Would I be right in assuming you don’t know what you’re talking about, Charles?

    Britain is only the 4th largest economy in the EU, and also its 4th greatest net contributor. Britain’s 1.5 bn contribution pales compared to Germany’s 5.3 bn, and is also surpassed by that of France and the Netherlands.

    Britain’s economy on the other hand is highly dependent on the EU market, and there are few economists in the UK who would deny that their economy would soon go pear shaped if the UK left.
    Listen to the experts, not to the laments of frustrated nationalists on right-wing sites like this.

  14. Noel

    Britain is the second economic power in the EU according to most International rankings. I am assuming you have placed Italy and France ahead of the UK, but where have you got this ranking from ?

  15. Colm, I was basing it on GDP. I’ve seen this ranking several times (including in the Economist), and I’ve just googled it and as a first hit got this.

    (True, these figures are a bit old (1996), but while the relation may have risen in UK’s favour in the following years, it probably declined again over the past 2 or 3.
    BTW if you scroll down you will seen how UK exports and investments in Europe rocketed in the period, and have no doubt continued to rise since.)

  16. Noel,

    Little wonder that you seem to come from another political planet from the rest of us, if those are the sort of stats you are using. After seeing your supposed ‘first hit’, I wondered what search term you were using, I entered ‘EU gdp’, – surely about the simplest query? – and got the following as a ‘first hit’;

    EU GDP

    As you can see the stats are up-to-date, i.e 2007. please also note that the percentage ‘per capita’ for the UK is some 119% – the highest of all the EU countries, and some 4% higher than the next country – Germany…

    Fancy using stats 12 years old! – and the europhiles wonder why the general public don’t trust a word they say.

    To search for the truth, you must first overcome your political bias!…:-)

    Another link I find useful for population stats is;

    Hive grp – Population stats

    The data or the graphi is constantly updated via Wiki and othe sources…. if nothing else, it is a vey interesting site.

  17. >>As you can see the stats are up-to-date, i.e 2007. <<

    Still shows the UK behind France, so it’s a draw between Colm and me! Poor France is also burdened by having to pay a huge rebate to Britain.

    The per capita figures are not relevant to the point we were discussing (but what bliss to see Ireland at the top there!)

    I do admit to a bit of bias – not due to our "ancient quarrel" but as an reaction to the jingoism you find here.

    >>Fancy using stats 12 years old! – <<
    Oh Come on, I said it was the first hit I found (my search was for the UK contribution to the EU). In any case, it proves that the UK has been struggling for 3rd place with Italy for over 10 years!

    Thanks for the superb link (on pop.).

  18. Noel,

    No it doesn’t put France ahead of the UK. –
    GDP
    1 Germany 2,340,372
    2 United Kingdom 1,847,105
    3 France 1,744,444

    I can reccommend a good optician …:-)

    Glad you like the Hive link – try some of the other examples on the left margin…

  19. So Noel, it seems I might know what I’m talking about? 😉

  20. >>can reccommend a good optician …<<

    Well, I’m already using a microscope and I see under "Economies of member states", 2nd column ("GDP in billions of US $")

    France with 2,843.1 bn and the UK with 2,660.7 bn.

  21. And we haven’t even gotten to the horrid CAP! Gotta go to work now.

  22. Noel,

    Look at the first table, the one in Euros…in dollars the euro is obiously stronger against the dollar, for a short while I may add…

    The %’s in the one you quote from seem to be a bit awry, when compared with the figures – UK 2,660.7 = 16.8% – France – 2,843.1 = 15.2% = ???