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Today is the anniversary of the Assassination of Martin Luther King Jr. It is one of the memories of my youth that stays with me. I remember watching two news events on the TV one was mans first step on the moon, the other was the coverage of this mans death.

I remember my father explaining to me this event. I didn’t understand why someone would kill somebody that just wanted to be treated the same as everyone else. It was not what I was being taught. I was taught that you judge somebody by their actions, how they behave. Not how they look, and not always by what they say. The value of a person is judged by how they treat others and how they handle confrontation.

King from the view that I was taught was doing everything right, and someone killed him.  That is when I learned that there is evil in the world.  What happened to King was evil.  It was explained to me that there are evil people that will do evil things to others that they disagree with.  That people like that are small in number, but have always been amongst us.

It is the reason that my Father, Grandfather, and Uncles put on uniforms and guns everyday when they left the house. It was to protect normal people from those evil men.  It is the duty of those that can to protect those that can’t.  That was how the world was explained to me.

Here is an interview you might enjoy, it’s 25 minutes long but it is worth your time.

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19 thoughts on “46 years ago

  1. Fascinating how calmly and clearly he speaks about just and unjust laws, and how the citizen has to proceed in disobeying the latter.

    What a great man.

  2. Pete I’m not going to mince words with you.

    Your an idiot, and an idiot see’s and hears what he wants to. MLK advocated peaceful change of unjust laws. He didn’t advocate disobeying unjust laws by just disobeying them.

    He advocated for something that he saw the power in but you can’t grasp. The power to vote. You know that choosing of masters.

    You want to take his peaceful disobeying of unjust laws and twist it to your view that you should just disobey the government. That is not what King did or ever advocated. He wanted to be part of, not against.

    Your a git, now go away.

  3. A simple yes or no would do instead of all this mincing of words. What did MLK say?:

    Martin Luther King, in his famous “Letter from the Birmingham Jail,” called on all Americans to actively but peacefully oppose laws that were morally wrong. King wrote:

    “There are just laws and there are unjust laws. I would agree with St. Augustine that an unjust law is no law at all… One who breaks an unjust law must do it openly, lovingly…I submit that an individual who breaks a law that conscience tells him is unjust, and willingly accepts the penalty by staying in jail to arouse the conscience of the community over its injustice, is in reality expressing the very highest respect for law.”

    Also:

    “One has a moral responsibility to disobey unjust laws.”

    So yes, MLK was clearly a mad anarchist. Troll, you said: “MLK advocated peaceful change of unjust laws. He didn’t advocate disobeying unjust laws by just disobeying them.”

    You are wrong. MLK advocated (gasp!) disobeying unjust laws.

  4. But he was speaking of laws that really were unjust.

    The requirement to pay some fair share of the cost of shared resources isn’t even close to being unjust in any sane person’s book.

  5. //Did he advocate disobeying unjust laws?//

    Yes, he did indeed. What’s more, he not only said that a citizen can, but that a good citizen is obliged to disobey unjust laws

    It’s tricky ground he’s moving over there, but he manages it extremely well:-

    He says a moral citizen must disobey unjust laws, but attaches a few conditions. The citizen must disobey openly, civilly and, above all, not for any selfish gain, but rather must willingly accept any loss and submit to any punishment society imposes on him as a result of his infringement.

    The question of course is who gets to decide what is an unjust and a just law. King says that anyone acting consciencioiusly has a right to decide, subject to the conditions he mentioned. He is too clever to believe in some vague apriori justice or rights (I think you call it “common law”), but seems to believe that any sacrifice the individual makes will win in the end when society recognises the justice of his case, i.e. he bases a common sense of justice on the fundamental decency of the American people.

    So there you go, Pete. Are you willing to see chokey to illustrate the injustice of the license fee or income tax?
    Do you believe you share the same innate sense of justice with the British people?

  6. Noel Cunningham –

    Society recognising the justice of a case is the basis of common law. It’s statute law which is a priori and rests on the unreal premise that lawmakers can foresee all eventualities. The common law developed in courts after the event.

    Yes, I would be prepared to see the inside of chokey over income tax, if it wasn’t for having to pay a mortgage. Being released and finding yourself homeless over a principle is a bit daft in my book.

  7. // i.e. he bases a common sense of justice on the fundamental decency of the American people. //

    meant to add: that’s why for him the fact that you may not disobey for personal gain, but have to be prepared to sacrifice your own interests, is key.
    Only in that way will the righteousness (or otherwise) of your cause in the public eye be revealed.

    How I wish we lived in a world where everyone – but especially political leaders – believed and lived according to that principle.

  8. there are no simple yes or no’s. especially when dealing with the twisted views of a psychotic like you Pete.

    You try to attribute to King a view from a perspective that he did not hold. The reality of who King was and what he did defy your view.

    You prove yourself inept, and deceitful. The best part is as with all of the insane, you do not see your insanity. However the rest of us do. Plain and simple your view is wrong.

    HA HA HA

  9. Pete, you are aware that MLK had an entirely different concept of liberty, freedom, and justice than say Ron Paul did/does.

  10. Sorry Troll?

    At 4.14pm you said:

    “MLK advocated peaceful change of unjust laws. He didn’t advocate disobeying unjust laws by just disobeying them.”

    MLK said:

    “One has a moral responsibility to disobey unjust laws.”

    Just accept a bit of knowledge in your life for goodness sake. What is this childish attitude you display all the time, where you have to win every little point?

    Look, the reason why you always find yourself in contradictory swamps is because you simply pick opinions without thought of the principles behind them. Think of the principles you believe in first and let them alone guide you. You might have to go against previous opinions you’ve given, but that’s no big deal.

    Cherry picking opinions from whatever sites you visit led you to call me an anarchist (as if that’s a bad thing), and then lauding MLK, who we see had anarchistic tendencies.

    Well decide what you think first and you won’t get into these muddles.

  11. I don’t have to win I just do.

    You don’t understand what MLK said, your own argument proves that. MLK had no anarchist tendencies. He was disobeying laws to get the vote. How does fighting to be included equally in the process of government support anarchy?

    As I said I win not because I have to, I win because I’m right and your wrong. The facts are on my side.

  12. I will comment on a Troll post for Lent.

    The laws MLK opposed as unjust were actually unjust. And he had the courage to accept the consequences of doing so. Mr. Moore has no such courage and of course not only has expressed support for those laws, he had denounced those that eradicated them.

  13. Mahons don’t make excuses if you have something to say just say it.

    If you need to make excuses to God because it’s on something I wrote. Then don’t bother, it just display’s your lack of conviction, and the sin of pride.

    You have become a pathetic shadow of a man that at one time had my respect.

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