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Things are heating up in the Ukraine.

“Pro-Russian activists occupying a government building in the eastern Ukrainian city of Donetsk have proclaimed the creation of a sovereign “people’s republic” independent of the capital, Kiev. The announcement, which was posted on YouTube, was delivered by a protest spokesperson outside a building currently occupied by several thousand Russia supporters, some of them armed. “Seeking to create a popular, legitimate, sovereign state, I proclaim the creation for the sovereign state of the People’s Republic of Donetsk,” the spokesperson said to cheers from the gathered crowd. The Interfax news agency reported that the self-proclaimed leaders of Donetsk had vowed to hold a referendum on regional sovereignty no later than 11 May. Ukrainian presidential elections have been set for 25 May.”

What will Obama do IF Putin chooses to recognise the result of the referendum on May 25th?

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  1. //What will Obama do IF Putin chooses to recognise the result of the referendum on May 25th?//

    He’ll probably realise that there’s no threat posed by a man who can’t even get a date right.

  2. What should Obama do, in your opinion? Why does everything revolve around the US?

    What’s your solution?

  3. Phantom,

    How about minding his own business? – just for starters.

    Doesn’t he have enough problems – the least of which might be the $6 billion missing from the State department accounts for last year.

    Let’s face it, as a President he is a total wutz and useless, global politics are well beyond his ability or remit. The quieter he is the better for the rest of us!

  4. Let’s face it, as a President he is a total wutz and useless, global politics are well beyond his ability or remit. The quieter he is the better for the rest of us!

    I don’t know if any US president including Ike, LBJ, Nixon or GW Bush would have done anything different as respects Crimea / Ukraine.

    The professional Obama Bashing Bullshitting Brigade are just trashing Obama because that’s what they do on everything.

    I have little time for Obama, but the US has very few cards to play in this situation, militarily or otherwise.

  5. Is anyone else getting a persistent error msg when posting comments? been around for about a week now, – on all of my computers and devices and only when posting to ATW.??

  6. I agree.

    Like the great Dirty Harry said in Magnum Force ” A good man knows his limitations ”

    A good country knows its limitations too.

    And even at the apogee of US military power, there was no way that we were going to consider military options in any situation like this.

  7. Beautiful:

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/monkey-cage/wp/2014/04/07/the-less-americans-know-about-ukraines-location-the-more-they-want-u-s-to-intervene/

    Since Russian troops first entered the Crimean peninsula in early March, a series of media polling outlets have asked Americans how they want the U.S. to respond to the ongoing situation. Although two-thirds of Americans have reported following the situation at least “somewhat closely,” most Americans actually know very little about events on the ground — or even where the ground is.

    On March 28-31, 2014, we asked a national sample of 2,066 Americans (fielded via Survey Sampling International Inc. (SSI), what action they wanted the U.S. to take in Ukraine, but with a twist: In addition to measuring standard demographic characteristics and general foreign policy attitudes, we also asked our survey respondents to locate Ukraine on a map as part of a larger, ongoing project to study foreign policy knowledge. We wanted to see where Americans think Ukraine is and to learn if this knowledge (or lack thereof) is related to their foreign policy views. We found that only one out of six Americans can find Ukraine on a map, and that this lack of knowledge is related to preferences: The farther their guesses were from Ukraine’s actual location, the more they wanted the U.S. to intervene with military force.

    EMPHASIS:

    We found that only one out of six Americans can find Ukraine on a map, and that this lack of knowledge is related to preferences: The farther their guesses were from Ukraine’s actual location, the more they wanted the U.S. to intervene with military force.

  8. It wouldn’t have happened with Nixon.

    They were all afraid of what he would do.

  9. “I bet everyone here could find Ukraine, and Crimea on a map too.”

    LOL

    Seriously though, shame on anyone of adult age who cannot find any country on a map. This is general knowledge at its most basic.

    On the main subject, it appears Russia is using its tool of “expansion by balkanisation” again re Ukraine’s eastern provinces. It already worked in South Ossetia, Abkhazia, Crimea…maybe Transdniestria next.

  10. I always knew stuff like this, always found geography, and how the world comes together politically, and otherwise, extremely interesting.

  11. I bet everyone here could find Ukraine, and Crimea on a map too.

    I’m quite confident that everybody here knew where Ukraine is on a map before the trouble kicked off.

  12. “Pretty soon no one will be able to find Ukraine on a map”

    Good one, Ross.

    It is interesting that it is only Russia seeking the dismemberment of Ukraine. You don’t see the Poles or Hungarians looking to “protect” their ethnic cousins in their former territories around Lviv and the Carpathians.

  13. sooner or later, the Russian army will be nothing more than a smouldering mix of burning metal & flesh.

  14. During Nixon’s Administration the entire Ukraine was controlled in the iron grip of the Soviet Union. I don’t recall him ending that status.

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