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If you are resident in, or just visiting a country with different rules of behaviour to those in the West; if you are sensible, or careful, or even just endowed with average amounts of common sense, you don’t go against the traditions or norms of that country. You may not like those traditions, you might even believe that those traditions are unjust, outdated or even cruel, but it is the action of a wise person to obey those traditions.

In Saudi Arabia, for example, if you are a woman, you are always veiled; you do not drive a car, or even sit in a car without a male relative beside you; for fear that your very presence might inflame a nearby man with impure thoughts. So you don’t drive, or go out by yourself.

In Iran, another country with stiff rules of behaviour, all of which are both well publicised and well-understood; if you are a woman you do not go, by yourself, to watch a bunch of MEN playing basketball, even if you simply adore bloody basketball!

So why all the fuss when a bunch of women, spoiling for both attention and a fight with the Iranian authorities, deliberately flout the laws of Iran, and after their arrest, claim the protection of the Foreign Office and the protestor’s family states that everyone is ‘torn apart’!


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13 thoughts on “A self-made Martyr? Or ‘when in Iran……’

  1. During the recent World Cup, there were many Iranian women in the crowds during Iran’s games – and very attractive they were too. This is more of an observation than a comment.

  2. What a catastrophe was the 1979 Islamic revolution.
    But for that, Persia could have been the jewel in the middle east: Free, wealthy, sophisticated and Europeanised.
    A place worth visiting and taking a holiday, even for Israelis.

  3. Unfortunately, it is hard to think of one country ( other than the one who must not be named ) in the greater Middle East that is advanced much at all in recent decades.

    There is no good reason why Egypt and Iran are not much wealthier than they are now.

    After the peace deal with Israel, there was talk of Egypt becoming a manufacturing center and or a big Singapore right next to Europe.

    Not much such hopeful talk now.

    I won’t even mention the much worse catastrophe that is Syria.

  4. //There is no good reason why Egypt and Iran are not much wealthier than they are now. //

    Well, there is one: US sanctions against Iran.

    They have been imposed for the past 35 years. Apart from the purely economic sanctions, even scientists working with Iranian scientists can be prosecuted under US law and foreign companies trading with Iran can suffer penalties by the US.
    US sources say that, due to the sanctions, Iran may be losing up to USD 60 billion annually in energy investment alone.

  5. Iran has acted with hostility to attempts from several presidents, as far back as Reagan, and as recently as Obama, to normalize relations. They can have normal diplomatic and trade relations any time they like.

    There sure aren’t any sanctions on Egypt and they have not had to worry about Israel for a really long time.

    What’s their excuse?

  6. Iran has acted with hostility to attempts from several presidents, as far back as Reagan, and as recently as Obama, to normalize relations. They can have normal diplomatic and trade relations any time they like.

    Israel simply doesn’t allow the US to allow normalisation with Iran. The nonsense about the nuclear program is an example. That is now 30 years that Israel has been claiming that Iran has been developing nuclear weapons – it’s an unsustainable lie.


    “The United States should drop a nuclear bomb on Iran to spur the country to end its nuclear program” Sheldon Adelson, biggest donor to the Republican Party and major fundraiser for pro-Israel political action committees, speech at Yeshiva University, New York City, October 22, 2013.


  7. https://www.congress.gov/bill/113th-congress/house-bill/850

    Shown Here:
    Passed House amended (07/31/2013)
    Nuclear Iran Prevention Act of 2013 – (Sec. 2) States that it shall be U.S. policy to prevent Iran from acquiring a nuclear weapons capability

    (Sec. 202) Eliminates presidential waiver authority with respect to the application of sanctions against persons who aid Iran’s weapons of mass destruction (WMD) or other military programs.

    I work and have worked for several years with Iranians. If Iran wanted nuclear weapons, the Iranians have the brains to get them noting that this is essentially 1940’s technology. The Iranian nuclear weapons program is one big lie.

  8. OK so everyone should have a nuke program, even countries that threaten to destroy other countries and that support terror groups.

    Got it.

  9. It has an imperfect record, but in your continent especially it has mainly been a force for good.

    Details upon request.

  10. Phantom – Iran does not have a nuclear weapons program. If it did, it would have them by now. Nor does Iran threaten to destroy the US, though Iran continues to point out who controls the US. I wouldn’t trust the ‘translation’ of Ayatollah Khamenei’s speech. For a start, he wouldn’t be so stupid as to say what is ‘reported’:


    On 20 December 2001, German TV channel “Das Erste” broadcast its analysis of the White House’s translation of the OBL video that George Bush has called a “confession of guilt”. On the show “Monitor”, two independent translators and an expert on oriental studies found the White House’s translation not only to be inaccurate, but “manipulative”

    I’m sure that dailycaller.con got whatever its afflicted readers wanted to read from Khamenei’s speech – not that there’s any agenda…..

  11. http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-0330-adelson-republicans-vegas-2016-20140330,0,6376383.story#ixzz2xTPYcBDZ

    During speeches Saturday, Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker, Ohio Gov. John Kasich and New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie all addressed the key concerns of Adelson and many group members — the threat of a nuclear Iran, their desire to strengthen U.S. ties with Israel, and what they view as the waning prestige of the U.S. abroad. With varying degrees of deftness, the candidates each touched on their own ties to Israel and Jewish tradition.

    Phantom – would you reckon that Sheldon Adelson has some influence in US politics?

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